Oca
Quote: Scarecrow

Everything is correct. The main thing is not to buy something completely, completely useless, and inexpensive equipment is often exactly the same technique.)))
Best of Worst! I try to choose the lowest price for the desired feature set. But no one canceled the purchase for the reason: "she is beautiful potamushta!"
Quote: Chamomile1

I have the opportunity to buy equipment, so to speak, "treated" or with minor damage such as dents, scratches, etc. And the prices are much lower than store prices.
I came to the same conclusion. Let it break, but at half price ...

* Anyuta *I'm waiting to continue
* Anyuta *
Quote: Scarecrow

And when did you buy for solid money some piece, then replace it on occasion with something more advanced - the toad strangles. It seems that it also works okay.
Natasha, I totally agree !!!
And the most annoying thing is that after six months, a year or a maximum of one and a half, this piece starts to cost an order of magnitude cheaper ... Since a more "modern version" has just appeared on the market, and the Chinese have already managed to release inexpensive analogs, but 2-3 times cheaper! !!
Yulia_red
Today, an assistant appeared at my house, she chose one PMM and bought a completely different one. Now I have Le Chef BDW-6010, it is already in its place and connected, but I can’t use it because I don’t know where the salt consumption is regulated. Can someone tell me where it is, where to put the salt in, I understood everything. And how you need to use the PMM for the first time, with or without dishes.
Irina Kalush
Quote: Yulia_red

Today, an assistant appeared at my house, she chose one PMM and bought a completely different one. Now I have Le Chef BDW-6010, it is already in its place and connected, but I can’t use it because I don’t know where the salt consumption is regulated. Can someone tell me where it is, where to put the salt in, I understood everything. And how you need to use the PMM for the first time, with or without dishes.
Just turn on the rinse If you have this function and the salt is not regulated
Yulia_red
IRINAKALUSH thanks, I already figured out the salt, but I didn't find how to turn on rinsing, turned it on for a quick wash, after completion everything is wet inside (the walls of the PMM and the shelves) I don't know if it is necessary or not, tomorrow I will wash the dishes. Tell me so you can wash the crystal in the PMM?
Irina Kalush
Quote: Yulia_red

IRINAKALUSH thanks, I already figured out the salt, but I didn't find how to turn on rinsing, turned it on for a quick wash, after completion everything is wet inside (the walls of the PMM and the shelves) I don't know if it is necessary or not, tomorrow I will wash the dishes. Tell me so you can wash the crystal in the PMM?
my LETTER A B C D E has a rinse aid for E, or maybe you have something else, do not forget, at least, to put something in, do not run without salt
aynat
I had a Whirlpool, it broke down after 3 years, they didn't even fix it, I had a sad experience with fixing the washing machine ... Now they took the most sophisticated Bosch. Washes no better than Whirlpool, sometimes it seems to me that it is even worse, despite the 2 rocker arms from below. And I can’t adapt to the new heaped baskets ...
Oca
Quote: Yulia_red

after completion, everything is wet inside (the walls of the PMM and the shelves), I don't know if it is necessary or not, tomorrow I will wash the dishes. Tell me so you can wash the crystal in the PMM?
And for the first time everything was in dew drops - you need to fill the machine with rinse aid (if you use a separate powder, not tablets), it helps the water to drain from the dishes and from the walls About the crystal, I say that it is nizya. Even if you wash without powder, just with water, the temperature drop can provoke the appearance of cracks.
Yulia_red
At the first use, I filled in salt, powder and rinse aid. Now I'm going to read the Temko that you can wash in the PMM.
gala10
Quote: Yulia_red

Tell me so you can wash the crystal in the PMM?
I wash on a fast 45 degrees, the crystal shines.
Giraffe
And for glass there is a program. I'm washing while t-t-t.
Yulia_red
After the first wash, the dishes taste very bitter, the softener is at 4, the powder was covered with 15 grams. Tell me what needs to be reduced and now you need to wash the dishes?
gala10
Quote: Yulia_red

After the first wash, the dishes taste very bitter, the softener is at 4, the powder was covered with 15 grams. Tell me what needs to be reduced and now you need to wash the dishes?
I would definitely rinse it off ... What means do you use?
lega
Quote: IRINAKALUSH

and salt is not regulated

The salt must be regulated. A certain set of buttons. You need to read the instructions for a specific PMM.
Yulia_red
all means for PMM from Domol, but why are the dishes so bitter?
Oca
Bitter is more likely from an excess of powder or salt (I tasted powder and rinse aid), or a little rinse aid, that is, the powder is normal, but it does not wash off well ...
gala10
Quote: Yulia_red

all means for PMM from Domol, but why are the dishes so bitter?
I did not have to use the funds of this company. After the Finish it doesn't taste bitter.
gala10
Quote: Oca

Bitter is more likely from an excess of powder or salt (I tasted powder and rinse aid), or a little rinse aid, that is, the powder is normal, but it does not wash off well ...
You are probably right ...
Yulia_red
powder, I fell asleep less than the norm, I filled in the rinse aid about 60 ml., and the salt is in the middle, it can reduce the consumption of salt and rinse aid
Yulia_red
Once again I washed the dishes, just put the rinse aid on, the dishes taste a little less bitter, this time I did not add the powder, we need to figure out how to reduce the salt
Vinochek
Well, my "torment" is over and I ended up ordering a Bosch SMV53L10EU. Germany said. I'll check how I get it.
* Anyuta *
Quote: Vinochek

Well, my "torment" is over and I ended up ordering a Bosch SMV53L10EU. Germany said. I'll check how I get it.
And what was the verdict of the "old"?
Vinochek
the old one was sold together with the apartment.
* Anyuta *
Quote: Vinochek

the old one was sold together with the apartment.

did you have it "built-in"? Or just didn't want to take the old one?
Vinochek
insertion (((
annnushka27
Quote: Vinochek

Well, my "torment" is over and I ended up ordering a Bosch SMV53L10EU. Germany said. I'll check how I get it.
Congratulations!!! Where did you order?
Vinochek
Lvov))))
But I found it a little more expensive in Simferopol - by 300 UAH. Rather, from Lviv + delivery + cash on delivery is cheaper than from Simferopol without delivery and cash on delivery. Plus I liked that the assembly is Germany, and here is Poland.
during the selection I read that it is expected to rise in price by 20%.
* Anyuta *
Quote: Vinochek

Plus I liked that the assembly is Germany, and here is Poland.
during the selection I read that it is expected to rise in price by 20%.

But how can there be a different country of origin for one model?

but in general I want to say .. I was waiting for a tablet from Taiwan .. according to documents from Taiwan - according to the inscription on the Technique - China ...
Vinochek
I myself, Anya, wonder. I read from the labeling that SMVs are produced in Germany. The seller said - Germany. On other sites they write - Poland. If he arrives, we'll see.
I'm more interested in why there is such a jump in prices: from almost $ 500 to almost $ 800 on large and rating sites.
* Anyuta *
Quote: Vinochek


I'm more interested in why there is such a jump in prices: from almost $ 500 to almost $ 800 on large and rating sites.

But because of the country of origin, there may well be such a difference ...
Vinochek
Then I don't understand anything at all - is Germany cheaper than Poland?
sazalexter
Vinochek Most likely, the official delivery and "gray", hence the difference in price.
Vinochek
Yes. I suspect this too. Plus, after all, Lviv is closer to Europe and prices are lower there.
ElenaN
And what other PMMs did the master advise you? Bosch is praised in stores, but it seems to me that because of the brand they are more expensive and it will be a pity if it closes in a couple of years.
ElenaN
[quote author = Camomile1 link = topic = 27402.0 date = 137 When I called and asked about PMM, I was offered a choice of Indesit and Veko. And also, I have a friend, a good jack of all trades. Tula, contact me if I will give you a phone number. I called this master with a question about these cars. He winced, the choice is not of very high quality options, but of these two he said to take Indesit. Although I was more attuned to Veko. He argued that PMM Indesit, unlike refrigerators, is not made in Russia.And there is at least some hope for quality.
I was considering a very budget option. Therefore, I don't know about more expensive and better quality PMM.
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I'm asking Chamomile about this. failed to copy her text
Sanik
Choosing a Bosch dishwasher, it turns out that I also looked at fakes, which were much more pleasant for the price. Here's what NeMo answered about these dishwashers from the forum, which is run by the joint venture for Bosch, Siemens, etc.
I quote:
"It is simply advisable to choose not from stores, but on the official website.
There is a lot of informal in stores with a phony guarantee. In particular,
the first model you named is not officially supplied to our market.
It is not covered by warranty service. And most likely
if you found the rest of the cars on the same resource, they are also "gray".
They just coincide in the article with those that are certified with us. Naturally,
that they are much cheaper than the official ones, because they come without a guarantee and a priori
can be repaired substandard from Polish services without the right
for an exchange and claims against the seller who sold it to you. Of course they
can assure you that there is a guarantee and even slip a warranty card
old blue or white, but in Polish.
You need to choose here, on the official website. 🔗"

True, I have not yet bought the PMM either in the store or from him ... Therefore, I cannot write a review yet ...
Chamomile
Quote: ElenaN

And what other PMMs did the master advise you? Bosch is praised in stores, but it seems to me that because of the brand they are more expensive and it will be a pity if it closes in a couple of years.
I didn't ask about other PMMs. Where I took it, you can wait a long time for another model and not wait. Therefore, either take what they offer or look for in stores, and there the prices are different.
I have infa on washers and refrigerators from the master (I worked as a dispatcher for 2 years). I wrote in the topics of his opinion. But what can I say if my own sister did not listen to me and bought all the Bosch firms. And a washing machine and a refrigerator. And the fact that my master told me not to take applications for Boshevsky washing machines (especially if they have brains - electronics flew) did not impress anyone.
Vinochek
I got to write a review)
My PMM arrived
All in their original packaging. The only thing is that the production is Poland, although Germany promised, but I was not upset, as I was tuned in to Poland. The quality compared to Indesit and Ariston (which I had) and Beko (my brother's) is just excellent. These VarioFlex boxes - it seems and why, but they deliver so much convenience!
I drove one cycle without anything. I turned on the second one with a minimum amount of powder (15 ml) on the fast program - the result is excellent! Then I turned on Eco, then Auto with VarioSpeed ​​- everything is super! I even washed the protein bloom in the pan. Haven't tried the pot / pan program yet.
It’s very quiet - I’m sitting in the kitchen and I don’t hear anything other than water (which is being collected). I also liked that she herself disconnects from the network a minute after the end of the program.
Finish Quattro tablets came as a gift, but I have not tried it yet.
Official warranty in Russian.
Yes, I just came very quickly - I was sent on Monday, and I already received it at lunchtime on Wednesday (for reference: Lviv is practically the other end of the country).
AUV
Help please, the question arose of acquiring the first dishwasher in my life, we do not understand anything about them, the information "the head swells". Can you advise a reliable full-size car, fully built, in the price category around 15,000 rubles, please?
AUV
Can you please tell me which type of drying is preferable: condensation, extra or turbo? And something about the machines: De'Longhi DDW 06 F Fully Built-in Dishwasher
Fully integrated dishwasher Korting KDI 6055
or better Built-in dishwasher Beko DIN 5833 extra? Help, I'm totally confused

Oca
Quote: AUV

or better Built-in dishwasher Beko DIN 5833 extra? Help, I'm completely confused
I have this particular Bekoshka, bought for 11 tons.r., in operation since November 1, 2012, no complaints about the work, everything is fine, especially for its price. Only the shortest program nifiga is not short, it is "with greetings", but it was used twice just out of curiosity. In addition to the PMM, there is a Beko washing machine and a vacuum cleaner, friends also have a refrigerator from this company - everything is in order with the equipment for many years. I would choose it, but I am waiting for an answer at the end of September about:
Quote: * Annie *

... ALL owners of Bekoshek on this site (and even more so those girls who helped me test the machine with certain settings) will be shocked to put it mildly by the results of the examination ... And it's not about the "congestion" of the breakdown, namely production of equipment for our countries by the firm Beko!!!
What can I say, even better inexpensive Beko than other PMM "with pedigree". With the latest purchases, I was disappointed by such well-known companies as Bosch, Philips, Samsung, Mulinex ... Panasonic is still trying to keep its brand. Therefore, let it be something Turkish, but do not overpay for the name. In terms of home appliances, I'm already looking towards Supra, Klatronic, Saturn, Rubin, Polaris (only Vitek, Scarlett and Redmond still cause allergies).
AUV
Wasp, thanks for the feedback, I was also in the mood for beko and I was also confused by this quote, and wait until the end of September ... so I started looking for backup options and got confused again.
knopa 1
Quote: Oca

With the latest purchases, I was disappointed by such well-known companies as Bosch, Philips, Samsung, Mulinex ... Panasonic is still trying to keep its brand.
Different firms have their own strong point about some kind of technology. Samsung has good TVs, washers, condensers, until they were produced in Russia, Moulinex has a good cartoon, I like equipment under the Hot Point Ariston brand (it is she, and not cheap models of the same company such as Zanussi or Indesit), etc. etc. Therefore, you just need to surf the Internet, look for reviews about this or that technique.
AUV
knopa 1, so whose strong point are dishwashers? I am interested in the optimal price-quality ratio
knopa 1
Quote: AUV

knopa 1, so whose strong point are dishwashers? I am interested in the optimal price-quality ratio
I don’t have a dishwasher yet, but I’ve been actively searching for a long time, I have re-furred and reviewed a lot of all kinds of equipment and for myself I decided that I would definitely take something from Hot Point Ariston, I really like the equipment of this company. The price-quality-functionality ratio is optimal. But this is just my opinion, I do not impose it on anyone, otherwise now the owners of Bosch will start throwing slippers ...
Albina
Good people, I also have to make a choice of an embedded PMM. Please advise what is better to take. I really don't want to study all 100 pages. I have never had, but I really want to take a good one
TaTa *
knopa 1
Zanussi is Electrolux, and Ariston and Hotpoint are Indesita brands ...
Vinochek
About Beko - my brother bought Beko about a month ago. Now she complains that she began to wash very badly, rusty streaks appeared.
Natalyushka
Recently, my husband and I remembered when they bought our BOSH machine, it turned out that it has been plowing for the fifth year and pah-pah, we are not overjoyed, and our family is big, sometimes we load it 4-5 times.
Highly recommend.
Taia
Quote: Vinochek

About Beko - my brother bought Beko about a month ago. Now she complains that it has become very bad to wash, rusty streaks have appeared.

Maybe the machine is not to blame, but the detergents? Let him check, buy another product.

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