lunova-moskalenko
And I drove my micra onto the wall, and put a slow cooker and a combine in its place. I can't live without micra. She replaces my oven, grill. Maybe even thanks to this site I rediscovered my micra for myself!
azaza
No, my walls are not idle, I have thousands of little things there. And a micra, an infection, takes half a table.
In general, I should not be so at her. Firstly, it's hard with our electric stove without a micrometer - one heating up will consume almost half of the current consumption for everything about everything. And secondly, although she takes a place, she also took on two more friends of humanity for herself: a coffee maker and a toaster huddle on her, without which there is also nothing. Take the micrushka away - so a coffee maker with a toaster will occupy the same place, but they won't be able to create a second floor.
And the roles of the oven and grill are successfully performed by an excellent oven and airfryer. Previously, the micra was heaped up, but somehow it did not work out for us with it. Died, peace be upon her. So we deliberately took the current one without bells and whistles, especially for heating.
irysska
Girls, I decided to pick on the moderator - the topic is about yogurt makers, and you are about mikras.
PS I won't kick my micra out, I really need it. On it, my yogurt maker lives for permanent residence.
tatiua
And I already have an Orion yogurt maker with a timer for almost a month. Before that, I tested my sister's yogurt maker for a week - also Orion, but without a timer. Vivo starter cultures - bifivit and yoghurt. I still could not decide on the time of fermentation. According to the instructions, ferment for 6-9 hours, but this is unrealistic a lot. In the process of trial and error, I determined that on the primary sourdough from the bottle, the cooking time was 4 hours, and on the mother culture - 2.5. If you keep it longer, the serum separates. The yoghurt maker does not overheat, measured - the bottom is 39 degrees, at the top on the jars it is stable 37. Homemade milk, boiled, the cream is defended and removed - for butter or sour cream.
rusja
tatiua,
thanks for sharing
And what does the timer give? He's a yogurt maker off. at the time you specify? or when he wants to?
tatiua
Quote: rusja

tatiua,
thanks for sharing
And what does the timer give? He's a yogurt maker off. at the time you specify? or when he wants to?

Turns off at a specific time
fronya40
and I have a vinyl with a timer for 180 UAH, it's very convenient - it turns off by itself
azaza
Quote: fronya40

and I have a vinyl with a timer for 180 UAH, it's very convenient - it turns off by itself
And where do you see convenience? Well, the device turned off by itself. So what?! After all, he will not rearrange the jars in the refrigerator, you will have to do it anyway. So what's the point?
And most importantly, the readiness of yogurt is not determined by time. You need to look at him. With eyes, not a timer. Because yesterday he was ready in 6 hours, today he will suddenly be ready in 5, and the day after tomorrow he will need 7. So what's the point of the timer? What is the convenience?
irysska
Quote: azaza

And where do you see convenience? Well, the device turned off by itself. So what?! After all, he will not rearrange the jars in the refrigerator, you will have to do it anyway. So what's the point?
And most importantly, the readiness of yogurt is not determined by time. You need to look at him. With eyes, not a timer. Because yesterday he was ready in 6 hours, today he will suddenly be ready in 5, and the day after tomorrow he will need 7. So what's the point of the timer? What is the convenience?
I absolutely agree with this. In addition, where there is a timer, the thermostat can no longer be used.
Although whoever likes it more.
fronya40
Well, look, I never had anything else. I put it on at night for 4 hours and continue to sleep, and in the morning I move it to the refrigerator. And if I just put it at 4 o'clock, it’s not ready, at 6 when it’s like. it is not ready. it has already changed.At first, I did not succeed at all, I changed it. I put on 8 o'clock. And now I got used to it like this, everything is very good. Therefore, I like it. And before, I generally did it in the bank and everything was fine too.
Milda
Quote: fronya40

At first, I did not succeed at all, I changed it. I put on 8 o'clock. And now I got used to it like this, everything is very good. Therefore, I like it. And before, I generally did it in the bank and everything was fine too.
PPKS The same story. We need to adapt and everything will work out!
tatiua
Quote: irysska

I absolutely agree with this. In addition, where there is a timer, the thermostat can no longer be used.
Although whoever likes it more.

I took my Orion with a timer, focusing on the reviews, although before that I tested the model without a timer, and it seemed to me that it was overheating. Indeed, if you are at home, the timer is not critical. But today I had to leave just at the time of the end of fermentation. The yogurt maker passed out, and I came in an hour. I was reinsured - I opened the kitchen window to lower the temperature. I don’t know which of these factors worked, but it didn’t come to the whey. I think if it warmed up further, the result would be different
azaza
I turn it off manually and immediately put it in the refrigerator. So in an hour my jars are still warm! What would happen to them if they stayed in the yogurt maker?
However, everyone has their own ideas about convenience.
mowgli
Once in the night I put yogurt in Mulinex, I slept so soundly that I could not hear the timer squeak, in the morning I put the jars in the refrigerator, there was no serum either, which is good to say with the timer.
fronya40
Quote: azaza

I turn it off manually and immediately put it in the refrigerator. So in an hour my jars are still warm! What would happen to them if they stayed in the yogurt maker?
However, everyone has their own ideas about convenience.

a timer is always convenient. in everything. Although we used to live without all this? and SCHS oven, washer, airfryer, etc. all with a timer. without a timer, we are "tied" to the house. Yes. right, when the timer beeps, I put the jars in the hol-k. but there are situations when I am not at home and then it saves me. Just imagine for a minute - you turned on the yoghurt maker and went to the store, and then there were some circumstances and came two hours later, and then what? All the same, the question is very controversial. The timer is not a necessary thing, but it is very convenient.
Lozja
Today the bottom of one jar of Mulinex flew out when scalded with boiling water. Suddenly...
Scarecrow
And I bought a tefal multidelis. I love it. Like.
Antonovka
Scarecrow,
Natasha, is this the one we wanted together? Krosh also bought
mowgli
Quote: Scarecrow

And I bought a tefal multidelis. I love it. Like.
Congratulations on your purchase! how is it in business, have you tried it?
Scarecrow
Quote: Antonovka

Scarecrow,
Natasha, is this the one we wanted together? Krosh also bought

She is the most. It exists in nature for 6 more cups. At first I thought about buying a smaller one. Firstly, you can find it in our market, and secondly, the family is big, it seems like no sense. In the big one you will always put it down, but in the small one you will not. It seems beautiful, well done, now I will upload it for the first time.

mowgli

No, I just brought it home last night ... I read the instructions ...
Antonovka
Scarecrow,
Natasha, we are waiting, sir
rusja
And the process with the PHOTO - pliz
Lara_
Where did you get it?
And .. how big are the cups?
Scarecrow
It will not work in photos yet. I was going to take pictures, brought a camera down, and there the battery sat down. I can only capture the final result, then the battery will already be charged.

I bought it in my Tula, it is almost in every large market of household appliances. I gave it back 6300. In Moscow I found the cheapest one for 5500 (with delivery, although the price of the yogurt maker itself is positioned lower), but I just found it. Didn't call the presence, maybe not, for example. Generally. reluctance to me began to fuss for 800 rubles difference. I bought it.

After reading the instructions, I enlightened that water is poured into the pan only for making desserts. Yoghurts and cottage cheese ferment with "dry" heating. Cottage cheese is made using inserts for draining the whey (they are visible on all the photos of this yogurt maker (white with holes).After fermentation, they unfold a quarter of a turn inside the glass, and therefore are fixed on the glass in a higher position. So it is necessary to leave for 30 minutes, 2 times (between them, drain the separated serum).

The volume of the cups ... When making ordinary yogurt, 1.5 liters of milk mixed with 120 ml of natural yogurt are loaded there according to the instructions, that is, it is designed for a volume of 1.620 liters. There are 12 glasses, which means that 135 ml is supposed to be poured into each glass. I just poured this volume (though I have a Vivo starter culture, not natural yogurt, but I added milk to the missing volume). It turned out clearly and evenly for all glasses. I will wait for the results, then I will unsubscribe.
Leska
Scarecrow, Natasha, congratulations on your purchase!

At the beginning of the year I got a review of this little thing, suddenly someone will be interested 🔗
Garry77
One big disorder today Again, yogurt did not work out, this time I took Prostakvashino's milk 3.5% and Activiu, held it for 5 hours and checked it, it was still liquid (although at the first fermentation at this time I already had it thick), it stood with me another 2 hours, as a result, in 2 jars of kefir (liquid and heterogeneous), in the rest of liquid milk, the whole mood was gone after that ...
Activia I had, of course, not the first freshness, but also not overdue, the deadline is February 11 (ex. January 12), ultra-pasteurized milk ex. last July, the deadline expires in April. Now I'm even afraid to get involved with pharmaceutical leavens
Lozja
Quote: Garry77

the deadline is 11 February (ex. 12 January),

irysska
Quote: Garry77

One big disorder today Again, yogurt did not work out, this time I took Prostakvashino's milk 3.5% and Activiu, held it for 5 hours and checked it, it was still liquid (although at the first fermentation at this time I already had it thick), it stood with me another 2 hours, as a result, in 2 jars of kefir (liquid and heterogeneous), in the rest of liquid milk, the whole mood was gone after that ...
I sympathize! I, too, have recently had some misunderstandings with Activia - the last time 2 out of 4 jars fermented more or less normally, and 2 - something semi-liquid with cheese. I decided not to use Activia yet. We bought 2.5% kefir Lactonia for testing (production in Kiev, as well as Activia - with bifidobacteria).
Quote: Lozja

Today the bottom of one jar of Moulinex flew out when scalded with boiling water. Suddenly...
Horror
Quote: Scarecrow

And I bought a tefal multidelis. I love it. Like.
My congratulations. Let him not overheat and prepare delicious and healthy dairy products!
Does it take up a lot of space? My girlfriend is talking about this on the sly, but while the price stops - we have the cheapest, somewhere around 1400 UAH. - we can soon become cheaper (and so already in comparison with the original price somewhere around 200-300 UAH fell)
Garry77
Quote: Lozja


okay, I'll try to find a fresher activi tomorrow, I'll ferment again I ordered Kiev sourdoughs in the joint venture, they should come soon, as long as it remains only to ferment with activity, because in our pharmacies they don't sell any sourdoughs at all (except for bifidum and lactobacterin)
Lozja
Quote: Garry77


okay, I'll try to find a fresher activi tomorrow, I'll ferment again I ordered Kiev sourdoughs in the joint venture, they should come soon, as long as it remains only to ferment with activity, because in our pharmacies they don't sell any sourdoughs at all (except for bifidum and lactobacterin)

You did not understand my emotions. I mean, what can be alive and useful there if the product has a shelf life of a month?
Garry77
Quote: Lozja

You did not understand my emotions. I mean, what can be alive and useful there if the product has a shelf life of a month?
well, I don’t know, maybe not, but when I did it the first time it turned out maybe not useful, but very tasty (the activia was a little fresher)
Lozja
Quote: Garry77

well, I don’t know, maybe not, but when I did it the first time it turned out maybe not useful, but very tasty (the activia was a little fresher)

The fact that it is tasty is understandable. This is what attracts customers - taste and consistency.
Crochet
Quote: Scarecrow

I gave it 6300.In Moscow, I found the cheapest one for 5500 (with delivery, although the price of the yogurt maker itself is positioned lower), but I just found it. I bought it.
And I 5,070 is with delivery (350 rubles). Without delivery, respectively, -4,720.

And about the fact that in nature there is the same, for 6 cups, I found out only when I unpacked mine, the instructions say ... after all, damn it ... I would be quite satisfied with 6, by and large I wouldn’t have any more. .. though all attempts to find this model were in vain ...

Scarecrow
Natasha, accept my congratulations, now we're like milk sisters yogurt sisters ...
Lenusya
Quote: Scarecrow

And I bought a tefal multidelis. I love it. Like.

Scarecrow, congratulations on your purchase !!!!! Delicious yogurt
It has 3 programs: cooking yoghurt, desserts and cottage cheese?
Temperature not listed for everyone?

I also want a new yogurt maker, I also liked VIVO, but they are not yet on sale (it has 3 thermal modes (30oС, 36oС and 42oС))
Yoghurt maker - selection, reviews, questions about operation (1)

So I think: wait for VIVO or tefal multidelis (I found it for 5700) take


Crochet
, with a purchase !!!!!
How are your impressions? does not overheat?
irysska
Quote: Lenusya

I also want a new yogurt maker, I also liked VIVO, but they are not yet on sale (it has 3 thermal modes (30oС, 36oС and 42oС))
Yoghurt maker - selection, reviews, questions about operation (1)

So I think: wait for VIVO or tefal multidelis (I found it for 5700) take
They were already on sale in Ukraine, the price was about 400-425 UAH, for rubles, respectively, 1440-1530 approximately. And now, too, no, dismantled.
On some forum, someone wrote that he had already bought one, but had not had time to try it out yet - and then I did not follow the topic, since there were no plans to buy.

Crochet, and you with a new yogurt maker - let it not overheat
Scarecrow
Krosh, have you tried it? How was it?

It's easier for you in Moscow to search ...

No 6 on sale, don't even bother. I climbed everything.

Lenusya

The temperature does not seem to be indicated, but two modes (yogurt and cottage cheese) should, in theory, be with a yoghurt temperature for fermentation (about 40 degrees), and the third (water is poured there and steamed), which means, like in a double boiler, the boiling point of water ...
rusja
and I was a yogurt maker VIVO ThermoMaster 201, I saw in their office (Research Institute of Milk and Meat) at Marina Raskova, 21 office. 102, early January. Then she came in another two weeks, but she was gone.
If anyone is interested, here are the detailed instructions for this exclusive yogurt maker:
🔗
Crochet
Quote: Scarecrow

Krosh, have you tried it? How was it?
No, Tus, I was going yesterday ... so our water was cut down, but I don't even have anything to wash the jars with ... so today I will try, I'll start with cottage cheese, more in our village to buy the usual unsweetened Activia (and indeed any other unsweetened yogurt) for sourdough is problematic ... not always the case,full jo an ambush in general ...

Lenusik, Irishka, girls, thanks for the congratulations !!!
Scarecrow
Why did you get this activity? Is there sour cream? It will turn out awesome yogurt on it. Trust me, I've done this one hundred and five hundred times ...

Banks, I do not say to soap before the first start. I poured them over with boiling water and dried them.
rusja
Quote: irysska

They were already on sale in Ukraine, the price was about 400-425 UAH, for rubles, respectively, 1440-1530 approximately. And now, too, no, dismantled.
One internet store still has it and costs less - 397 UAH:
🔗

They nevertheless came up with a strange design, with all the necessary bells and whistles, only one of their glasses can be adapted, and if God forbid something, and sho tada to do
Scarecrow
Quote: rusja

One internet store still has it and costs less - 397 UAH:
🔗

They nevertheless came up with a strange design, with all the necessary bells and whistles, only one of their glasses can be adapted, and if God forbid something, and sho tada to do

But it seems to me that glasses can be found, if that. Well, there will be a little less diameter, etc. The choice of such things as glasses has always been huge. But if you bang the Tefalev squares in this very new multi-delis, then what to replace them with - FIG knows. They are specific: they do not reach the bottom (they do not stand on the heating elements, they are suspended on a stand, the gap is 5-7 mm), they just fit into their cell.
irysska
Yes, at such a price, Tefal multidelis, if you break her glass, there will be a guard. I think that if spare ones are sold, then the price will be awesome.
And Vivo Thermomaster really looks mysterious, I agree with rusja - that's just wondering if it overheats, how much it corresponds to the declared temperature. Such a question concerns Tefal. For example, is 36C really 36C, and not 45 in 2 hours
Scarecrow
When it beeps, I'll stick a thermometer in yogurt.
Lara_
No, well, what is it for yoghurts - so right away in Ukraine .. :-)
I also want a Viva yogurt maker now .. eh ..

And you have a lot of starter cultures, and yogurt makers are better ..
irysska
Quote: Lara_

No, well, what is it for yoghurts - so right away in Ukraine .. :-)
I also want a Viva yogurt maker now .. eh ..

And you have a lot of starter cultures, and yogurt makers are better ..
Well, where we do not
Lara_
Yeah, just found it myself. But there is only leaven there. And I want a yogurt maker!
irysska
Quote: Lara_

Yeah, just found it myself. But there is only leaven there. And I want a yogurt maker!
why is it not a yogurt maker 🔗
Lara_
I mean now they are not there :-)

and, in general, does anyone have such a thing? how are your impressions? share, eh?
k.alena
I will calm down the thirsty Vivo yogurt maker a bit. Here is a review from another forum where I often visit
So friends, for those who follow, I inform you that Vivo yogurt makers are already on sale. Ours was delivered to us in front of NG and she had already managed to cover herself halfway - two of four cylinders. And, as I understand it, this is not a one-time incident. First delivery.

A person, on my advice, began to look at the Clathronic + thermostat
I didn't really track reviews, this one was just "near". Therefore, pay attention to this fact
rusja
Maybe that's why they curtailed their supplies, after the first ...

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