Yoghurt maker - selection, reviews, questions about operation (1)

Well, I don’t know, not everyone lives in Central Asia. Even within the apartment there are rooms that are cooler, probably there are less than 36. Right now, almost everyone has air conditioning.

Yes, just in recent years we all seem to live in Wed. Asia
And I didn't even think about the conditioner. But I have air conditioners in my rooms, but not in the kitchen yet. We need to get busy - it's not the point to carry yogurt around the rooms.
And yet, yes, happy holidays to us, girls! Each flower and a shot:

Tastier than yoghurt, as for me, not as sour and sticky as some people have.

Hmm, well, here is a confirmation about taste, color and markers. Streptosan is not very good for me. Maybe he wins against the background of Viva's yogurt? To my shame I can’t get to him, I’m hooked on Italian and I don’t want to get off of him. Only streptosan seduced me: well, I think I'll eat a liter of theirs, almost yogurt, and I will live for a long, long time, like Chakhlyk Nemirushchy.

Thank you, fighting friends, that is, is it initially more sour? but the VIVO sourdoughs, as far as I could notice, are more acidic than the same Bulgarian ones (Genesis, for example), and streptosan turns out to be even sourier than them. But I'll take it anyway. And on the contrary, I can't get to Italian in any way, I'll have to buy it for trial. But there, in addition to yogurt, there are still whole complexes of some kind of immune-bifidum, sho choose

Okay, bye everyone. I will fall asleep faster, wake up faster and I will accept congratulations from my three men (married and 2 sons).

Thank you, fighting friends, that is, is it initially more sour? but the VIVO starter cultures, as far as I could notice, are more acidic than the same Bulgarian ones (Genesis, for example), and streptozan, it turns out initially even more acidic than them. But I'll take it anyway. And I, on the contrary, I can’t go to the Italian, I’ll have to buy it for trial. But there, in addition to yogurt, there are still whole complexes of some kind of immune-bifidum, sho choose

So far I have only used vivo leavens. Yogurt is sour there than streptozan. And streptosan is good, like symbilact. This one is not sour at all.

I will fall asleep faster, wake up faster and I will accept congratulations from my three men (married and 2 sons).

Mon, why decrypt, huh? It sounded so good, so intriguing: from three of their men and then bam -

Rusya, Mona, then try Italian urgently! Well, very tasty !!!

Mon, why decrypt, huh? It sounded so good, so intriguing: from three of their men and then bam -

Oh, girls, embarrassed me. I wanted not to decipher, but I think - what am I, some kind of scurrilous, as the girls might think.

Oh, girls, embarrassed me. I wanted not to decipher, but I think - what am I, some kind of scurrilous, as the girls might think.

Yes, just without decoding, everyone would understand everything correctly. And the decryption highlighted the hidden meaning
Eh, and today is not women's day at all. I have a birthday boy today, but she is so far from me that her birthday is a sad holiday for my husband and me ...

Rusya, Mona, then try Italian urgently! Well, very tasty !!!

Yes, I would gladly, duck I have a Viva leaven - a wagon. Because of (excuse me, I'll step on the corn again) the thermostat turns out to be re-fermented so many times that I didn't use up from the freezer and half of what I took that spring. They do not spoil there, although more than six months have passed, absolutely such a taste. It freezes there very well.And as I re-ferment, I look, if the taste began to deteriorate, I take out the new ferment from the freezer. Yogurt withstands less re-starter cultures for me - a maximum of 8-10. Simbilact - 20 and changed to another bacillus, since almost 2 months pass, and it is not recommended to take one type longer. And I would have survived.
So as I use up my own, then we will try both Italy and Bulgaria.

And I buy one packet at a time, I have it sold nearby. We eat streptozana - I will take Vivov's yogurt (the jar is already hidden in the refrigerator, waiting for its turn).

Today I also found a department in our TSUM department where VIVO starter cultures are sold. For 8 UAH everything except symbilact. He - 10. Took note.

And I buy one packet at a time, I have it sold nearby. We eat streptozana - I will take Vivov's yogurt (the jar is already hidden in the refrigerator, waiting for its turn).

Is he in bags right now? I ordered it on the website in the spring, they sent it in jars.
Oh, why did we disagree about leaven, for this there is another branch. Well, okay, girls, it was nice to go out, I'll go look for my husband on a wide bed.

Viva starters in jars, and Italian in sachets.

Oksanochka, tell me, please, are there any recesses for jars in 157? it will then be possible to adapt a rectangular container for kefir-curd, as in 108?
And then today I was tormented by a choice between them. I wanted to order 108, but they are not yet, but about 157 there were few reviews, now it’s not so scary, only if the bottom is even or not, is it possible to shove any jars there, instead of relatives or one container?

No indentations for you, flat bottom - put sho hosh!

And my Moulinex is a turd! From above it was watery-liquidish, kept it, did not go to bed until it became more or less normal from above, stratification had already begun in some places from below, and the jars from the bottom were already hotter than 6 o'clock. Well, Nitsche, Mulichka, I’ll sell you in good hands with a thermostat, and I’ll take a Deksyushka myself. And let them dance around you with tambourines, but I'm tired of it. (* where is the door-slamming smiley face?)

Virgin, happy holiday to us!

No indentations for you, flat bottom - put sho hosh!
Virgin, happy holiday to us!

Thank you, Ksyunya. Then I will order DEX-157.
ALL HAPPY SPRING !!!
BE BEAUTIFUL, FAVORITE, HAPPY to the point of IMPOSSIBILITY !!!

Hello!
A new tefal yogurt maker with the ability to make cottage cheese has appeared on sale, can anyone have already tried it .. or have you heard the reviews? I'd like to, but the price is unrealistically high ...
I wonder if you also need sourdough to make cottage cheese in it?

Hello!
A new tefal yogurt maker with the ability to make cottage cheese has appeared on sale, can anyone have already tried it .. or have you heard the reviews? I'd like to, but the price is unrealistically high ...
I wonder if you also need sourdough to make cottage cheese in it?

I made vivo with sourdough once, it turned out to be a creamy, slightly sour mass, but it went with jam.

I have a question for the users of this tefalk. How to make dairy desserts according to the cream part, whipped cream is written everywhere, but in some recipes, the part needs to be heated, is it like, first whisk and then reheat? Who did, tell me, I really want dessert.

[Cooking class, Kat-ryn,]

Cooking class, Kat-ryn, Herestarting from page 59 of this topic, Scarecrow wrote about her tefalk and how and what she cooked in it.

Good afternoon everyone! I really ask for your help. Here's the deal: yesterday we got a moulinex YG230 yoghurt maker, bought a Yogulakt at the pharmacy. Homemade milk was heated to the state of steam and the contents of 2 capsules of yogulact were added to it, set overnight for 8 hours. In the morning they opened and there was no result, milk with foam is hot and that's it. There is not even a hint of fermentation.
Tell me where to start fixing errors? What could be the reason for non-fermentation?
By the way, the jars were very hot, does this mean that the yogurt maker is overheating?
I was so upset that I wanted to take the yogurt maker back immediately.

I was so upset that I wanted to take the yogurt maker back immediately.

The right decision. If your milk is not warm (the correct temperature is slightly warmer than the body temperature of a healthy person), and even with froth, then the yogurt maker has almost brought it to a boil. What crops will survive at this temperature ?! Here it is not leavened with you.
You should read this thread BEFORE buying a yogurt maker: Moulinex and tefali very often overheat. There have been cases, similar to yours, when the yogurt makers practically brought the milk to a boil.
You can fiddle with cardboard napkins, with thermostats, but in your case it is better to immediately get rid of the marriage and buy a normal yogurt maker.

This is a yoghurt maker with an electric timer, the thermostat won't fit it anyway.
More about the temperature of the milk. The temperature of fresh milk to the touch is a rather inaccurate concept. You should buy a thermometer. There you need an exact temperature +/- 1-2 degrees. How it can be calculated with a finger is hard for me to imagine. If the temperature is 5 degrees higher than it should be, the bacteria will die immediately, no matter what yogurt maker you put them in.
As for the body temperature, if you try it with your finger, if you take into account that the body temperature is 36-37 degrees, then in fact, the finger should not be warm at all. He should just be comfortable in the milk - neither warm nor cold. But if you somehow sterilize the dishes for making yogurt, then after you put your finger in this milk, this whole procedure will lose any sense.

They wanted to buy such an expensive yogurt maker from me with a timer, I dissuaded the person.

Bring your Moulinex back quickly, hand over it, and take something cheap and without a timer (I don't know which country you are from, so I won't recommend it more precisely). The yogurt maker should have one On / Off button. If it overheats, buy a thermostat for it.
Good luck!

[Akhchik]

Akhchik, and how hot is it? Or did the jars themselves feel hot?
As practice has shown, the temperature of the jar and the temperature of the finished yogurt inside the jar are two big differences. I measured it with a non-contact electronic thermometer, in the first part of the topic I even laid out the results of measurements.

It could happen that the leaven was found to be of poor quality.

Therefore, before carrying the yoghurt maker back to the store, I propose to conduct two experiments:
1. Pour water into jars and set aside for 5 hours in the yoghurt preparation mode. Then measure the water temperature.
2. Prepare yogurt. Take store-bought yoghurt as a starter, without additives, Activia, for example. Set cooking time - 5 hours and see what happens.

So the person writes:

milk with froth hot

If the foam is on milk, it means that the milk has heated up very much! There are two options: either Akhchik understands the term "fresh milk" in a very original way, or the yogurt maker has heated the milk to at least the pasteurization temperature. But if there is foam, I'm afraid it's not even about pasteurization.

There you need an exact temperature +/- 1-2 degrees. How it can be calculated with a finger is hard for me to imagine.

If there is no thermometer, then the finger, of course, will not be suitable for measuring, so hands, for example, are cold. More precisely, if you drop yogurt from a jar on the wrist (where the pulse is). At one time, I checked semolina porridge for the temperature of a baby baby. If I dripped and feel warm, then the pace is higher. body, if it gets cold, then less, if you don't feel, then it is. At that time, there were no bottle warmers, bottle sterilizers, diapers and other delights of today for babies. So they got out.

Moulinex with a timer overheats hard, according to reviews. Every day of experimentation reduces the chances of a hassle-free return. I wouldn't risk that.
Well, the person did not know that the more expensive the yogurt maker, the more it overheats. But it is not too late to rectify the situation.

So I say: it is necessary to change, and urgently!

[azaza]

azaza, I do not argue!
I am a harmful comrade, I need specific figures.

For specific figures, specific measuring instruments are needed, but not everyone has them. For example, I measured the temperature in a yogurt maker with a medical thermometer. But if the foam is in milk, I'm afraid that such a thermometer will burst in figs, and then in the milk there will be not only foam, but also mercury.
And the concepts of hot / cold are too subjective, it is difficult to navigate them, here you are absolutely right

Thanks everyone for the advice
Let me clarify the situation a little: the milk was warmed up to a little warm, a finger was there, but no one poked it for measurement. They took it for a sample with a spoon and measured it with their lips.
When they took out the jars from the yogurt maker, they were hot enough, they measured the temperature of the milk in them with an ordinary mercury thermometer (since there is no other) and it showed the whole scale (the whole scale is 42 full divisions and one more unlabeled, i.e. 43 surely there was and may be more, but more thermometer capabilities were not allowed).
All my friends have such a yogurt maker and everything worked out without problems. I think that the point is most likely in the sourdough itself. Now I'm trying to do the same with it, but with store-bought milk, since the locals advised me to take not such fatty milk as homemade. And under some of the jars I tried to put a folded towel several times. Let's see what happens. And at night I also want to try to put the yogurt on activation. If after this there is no result, then I will probably carry it back. Which one should I choose? In our stores, there are mainly mulinexes and tefali, approximately in the same price category, I have not seen others on the store shelves.

Thanks everyone for the advice
Which one should I choose? In our stores, there are mainly mulinexes and tefali, approximately in the same price category, I have not seen others on the store shelves.

Take not automatic, that is, so that it was stupid only incl. and off. and where water does not flow between the banks, that is, one into which, if necessary, if it also overheats, it will be possible to fit a thermostat (It is not difficult and inexpensive). I didn't understand what country you are from. Because I am writing this if you are from Ukraine. And if from another country, google in nete Thermostat for incubators. See if you can buy it in your country.
And then maybe you won't have to invent anything, maybe you're lucky and won't overheat. Take the simpler, the cheapest. In Ukraine, I took the thermostat here
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model RT-10 / P01 There the setting step is 0.1 degrees.

You will be able to make ANY starter cultures at ANY required temperature. I've been doing it for a year now. There was never a spoiled product, only recently it curled up, as the bag with milk was damaged, the milk was obviously spoiled. And since I do not boil it (it is ultra-pasteurized), but only heat it up on the stove to 35 degrees, I did not notice. Well, nothing, I made curd from it for dumplings, and I used up the whey when baking bread.
Do not despair, there is a way out of any situation.

When they took out the jars from the yogurt maker, they were hot enough, they measured the temperature of the milk in them with an ordinary mercury thermometer (since there is no other) and it showed the whole scale (the whole scale is 42 full divisions and one more unlabeled, i.e. 43 surely there was and may be more, but more thermometer capabilities were not allowed).

Akhchik, even 42 * is already overheating. Only yogurt still more or less withstands this temperature, but for him it is borderline and not to say healthy. All other crops die at this temperature. You have at least 43 *. But in fact, I think, much more - at 43 * foam is not formed, but you had it. Do not play any more, do not delay. Hand it over urgently. If from the very beginning there is such overheating, nothing good awaits you. Stretch out for several days - it will be more difficult to pass.
Write in your profile where you are from. Based on the place of residence, it will be possible to give you some recommendations, because the market for household appliances in different countries is different. According to Ukr.I can recommend Dexa: the cheapest yogurt maker, while the most delicate. If you are not in Ukr, then maybe there is someone here - friends, relatives, who could help. As an option - come on vacation in summer, come back from here with a yoghurt maker - business with pleasure

[Akhchik]

Akhchik, at night - too long, the serum will exfoliate. I have ready-made yogurt on activation in 5 hours.

Yesterday I ran a series of experiments with my yogurt maker. First, I took another milk, used the same starter culture (2 capsules of yogulact), and put half of the jars on a towel, the other half just like that on a tray, all but one that just stood there (they stood in the yogurt maker for 9 hours). The result is still some water on top, it tastes like kefir, only not sour but fresh and also kefir in consistency. At night, I put a part with Activia, a part with an already fermented jar and also divided them into halves (some on a towel, others without), by the morning (after 8 hours) everything was fermented. It tasted like kefir and the consistency too, the water peeled off on all the jars
Now I don't understand, if everything is fermented, then it does not overheat? Or how? And why is kefir produced instead of yogurt?
P.S. I plan to buy a full-fledged thermometer on the weekend, because they don't sell nearby
I'm from Russia, I can't even imagine what to change, because in stores there are only moulinex and tefali in about the same price category. And you want homemade yogurt ...

[Akhchik]

Akhchik, at night - too long, the serum will exfoliate. I have ready-made yogurt on activation in 5 hours.

Do you also put something on the bottom of the yogurt maker?

Do you also put something on the bottom of the yogurt maker?

I'm nothing. I put the thermostat, the one that I gave the link. But this is in Ukraine. You are from Russia, you can look for this at home, ask around on the radio market at home, but this is only if the yogurt maker is not automatic, as now, like you wrote that the shutdown is on a timer? Try to add something else, maybe not cardboard, but thin ceramics, you know, such pads for hot cups. It will not work, change to another one, especially since even if you reach 40-42 degrees, then only yogurt will work, and there are still many other starter cultures, many are tastier than yogurt, and more useful, for example, simbilact, after antibiotic treatment I feed my family only with them. And tasteful, no words, and streptosan, and more, and all of it - up to 38 degrees.

Akhchik, your yogurt maker overheats mercilessly, even with all the linings. Therefore, kefir instead of yogurt, plus separated whey. Hand over urgently! What to change for - you will think later, but now get rid of it urgently!
What to change for? If the choice is really only between tefal and mulinex - buy any of them, only without a timer, and look for a thermostat in the kit. But is a yogurt maker needed for that price if yogurt can be made in other ways? Maybe a little more troublesome than a normal yogurt maker, but better than your current one.
For rent, a yoghurt maker + a thermostat will not be cheaper than a multicooker with a yogurt function. So, in addition to yogurt, it will also multivit you, and you will put yogurt in it at night. And you can make yogurt in the simplest multitude, without a special function. And you can somehow contrive and find connections in Ukr., Order a cheap yogurt maker there. Or try to order a Vivo yoghurt maker - it seems like it goes for export too.
In general, there are options, there are! The main thing is to get rid of the low-quality yogurt maker, while you can, do not miss the time!

What to change for? If the choice is really only between tefal and mulinex - buy any of them, only without a timer, and look for a thermostat in the kit. But is a yogurt maker needed for that price if yogurt can be made in other ways? Maybe a little more troublesome than a normal yogurt maker, but better than your current one.

If you take a cheap yoghurt maker (without automation) + a thermostat (We have UAH 85, let 100 with shipping = $ 12), it will come out, I think, cheaper than her current yogurt maker. You can also order a yogurt maker through the Internet, even cheaper by 20-30%, and there is more choice. I purchase all the equipment in the house through the Internet. It's not scary at all.

Or try to order a Vivo yoghurt maker - it seems like it goes for export too.

The girl cannot buy Vivo, she is from Russia, and VIVO is sold only in Ukraine.

I won't argue, but something is spinning in my head, as if one of the Russians was talking about the Vivo yogurt maker. Perhaps I am confusing something.
In general, any option for Akhchik will be more successful than the current one.

In general, any option for Akhchik will be more successful than the current one.

I agree, and it is necessary to change it faster, and do not hope, as one would like, that it will stop overheating, do not. As practice shows, over time, for many users, yogurt makers begin to heat more, and not vice versa. And if she immediately heats up so much, then what can you expect? And even with such a situation, there is no mood. Change, you need to finish off this situation and emerge victorious with wonderful healthy yoghurts and more.

The girl cannot buy Vivo, she is from Russia, and VIVO is sold only in Ukraine.

Tanya, on the Russian site of Vivo there is also a yogurt maker, as well as sourdoughs, I even threw a link to someone, it was just not available at that time. So there is a chance to buy it in Russia.

Here !!! I remember that such infa flashed somewhere! Thank you, dear, otherwise I began to doubt myself.

Tanya, on the Russian site of Vivo there is also a yogurt maker, as well as sourdoughs, I even threw a link to someone, it was just not available at that time. So there is a chance to buy it in Russia.

Oh cool, so this is a great yogurt maker! Mom has this. I was just envious of everything. A year ago I did not find it when I was looking for it.

Oh cool, so this is a great yogurt maker! Mom has this. I was just envious of everything. A year ago I did not find it when I was looking for it.

Tanya, it's even better for you: with the thermostat, everything is for sure, or maybe this Vivo does not quite observe the set temperature - like many fruit dryers with a thermostat - you turn it on at 40C, and you get 70

I finally got a delicious yoghurt on my 3rd try, with 3.2% UHT milk and activ. In a yogurt maker, severin was cooked for 4 hours. Now I want to buy a thermostat and starter cultures. Tell me where you can buy a thermostat. And poke, please, where you can read how it works.

I finally got a delicious yoghurt on my 3rd try, with 3.2% UHT milk and activ. In a yogurt maker, severin was cooked for 4 hours.

Well, with the debut! Good luck with your future yoghurt making

Thank you

Tanya, it's even better for you: with the thermostat, everything is for sure, or maybe this Vivo does not quite observe the set temperature - like many fruit dryers with a thermostat - you turn it on at 40C, and you get 70

Yes, although it works well for my mother. But there is another danger here. I don't really trust devices with electronics from an unknown manufacturer. Suddenly, something hunts in her brain and is not sure that it is possible to find spare parts somewhere or find a service center where they can fix it, and if they can, then how much will the repair cost, given that the yogurt maker itself is relatively not cheap ... My clathronic, my husband disassembled, is simple as a screwdriver. On occasion, you can even replace the burned out wiring yourself if it happens. And cheap. The thermostat seems to be reliable, but even if it breaks, you can throw it out and insert a new one, it is inexpensive.
This is me about the fact that VIVO would like something with my heart, but a cold mind says that my version (a cheap yogurt maker with a thermostat) is the most durable and without hemorrhoids for a pocket and for future repairs.

This is me about the fact that VIVO would like something with my heart, but a cold mind says that my version (a cheap yogurt maker with a thermostat) is the most durable and without hemorrhoids for a pocket and for future repairs.

So I am about this, the option of a yoghurt maker + a thermostat = the very thing in repair and in reliability