Yoghurt maker - selection, reviews, questions about operation (1)

Husband's relatives wanted a yogurt maker, took Dax 157 for them, having read here that Dax do not overheat. She gave leaven and instructed. She said that it would be ready in about 5 hours, to have a look. My husband's sister put on the yogurt at 6 pm and fell asleep then, turned off the yogurt maker only at 5 am. Well, I’m on the phone, I’m telling them that what they ate was no longer yogurt, because it was overheated. And what was my surprise when I went to them in the evening, and they showed me completely normal yogurt in a jar, such, even if you turn the jar, not a drop of serum, not a hint of stratification!

A treacherous thought creeps into my head all evening - to throw out my Moulinex and take myself also a cheap Dax. Set yourself up for the night and sleep well. And do not stay at the yogurt maker, so as not outdated overheated.

A treacherous thought creeps into my head all evening - to throw out my Moulinex and take myself also a cheap Dax.

It seems to me that this thought is not at all treacherous, but quite sensible. Of course, it’s a pity for the money thrown out on Moulinex, but nerves are more expensive than one modest Deksik. In general, I like this brand: cheap and better quality than many brands.

It seems to me that this thought is not at all treacherous, but quite sensible. Of course, it’s a pity for the money thrown out on Moulinex, but nerves are more expensive than one modest Deksik.

And nothing is a pity! They gave it to us!

So even more so - what is there to think about? It is necessary to take, a good thing

Today I bought a spare dex saucepan - happy This is not a saucepan, it's better than any super-duper Teflon pan! And so in everything at Dex

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Ksyusha - Lozja , join us with azaza with a Dex yoghurt maker - you'll see, for a little money, a great result

So, sir. Selling my Mulinex, who needs it?

So, sir. Selling my Mulinex, who needs it?

And my Mulinex is normal, why sell?

And my Mulinex is normal, why sell?

How many hours is yogurt ready?

How many hours is yogurt ready?

in a cold kitchen for 8, in the summer for 4.

And mine is the same, that in winter, that in summer 4-5 hours, depending on the nuances. Simbilact - an hour longer.

And mine is the same, that in winter, that in summer 4-5 hours, depending on the nuances. Simbilact - an hour longer.

That's how it is with me, and over-starter - for 2. And for almost a year that I have been making yoghurts in Moulinex, I have vague doubts about this.
Plus an extra hour for my yoghurts in Moulinex is a bundle, and in Dax there is nothing for him in such a time. Maybe a bit of peroxide, I haven't tried it. But no serum at all! No cracks at the bottom. Just perfect yogurt! So I started thinking. I got tired of catching this moment and worrying that I would forget, I would miss, the worldwide flood would go to look and be distracted, etc. I want to put the yogurt to cook and go to sleep peacefully!
Here girls, I'm not saying that your yogurt makers are bad! (just in case, the atoms will start again now). I just really freaked out yesterday when I saw yogurt, which stood for more than 10 hours in the yogurt maker. Anyway, he was ready earlier. But not in 4 hours! And for an extra hour or two, nothing happened to him either. I didn't just want to spend money on what I already have and got it for nothing.

And what is your temperature of the finished yogurt, did you measure it by chance? As it seems to me 2 hours for re-starter, it's too fast, twice. Probably 40 degrees or more?

So if someone wants exactly Mulinex, but he feels sorry for 400 UAH, then I will give mine for 190 UAH. Yogurt maker - about 9 months.

And what is your temperature of the finished yogurt, did you measure it by chance? As it seems to me 2 hours for re-starter, it's too fast, twice. Probably 40 degrees or more?

40-41 degrees. 2 hours - in summer, in winter, about 2.5. Up to 3 is rarely possible to hold. But I’m not surprised, because I know that Moulinex are not ideal in terms of temperature. Just tired of putting towels on, especially in summer.
Although, everything seemed to suit me, until I saw with my own eyes how the Daxes work. Because to read that they do not overheat is one thing, quite another - to see the result with your own eyes. Now I want Dax, and that's it.

Oh, I forgot, one jar is no longer alive. She died a heroic death when scalded. But picking up a jar is not a problem. And I don't ask for much - just for a new one Mercedes Dax.

40-41 degrees.

Well, even though they write that the yogurt sourdough is 36-42 degrees, but at a lower temperature, although it is slower, it tastes better, I think.
In general, girls, you will laugh, but somehow I decided to take the place of yogurt, I presented how it feels. And I realized that these bacilli are the same living beings, like us, in the end. But you live, do business and when the temperature is outside, for example, 25 degrees. and when under 40. But in the first case, you are very comfortable, and in the mood, and not tired, and ready for much more, and in the second case, tired, with high blood pressure, sweat in three streams and no longer pulls for any feats. So are bacilli. They are most comfortable at a BODY temperature of 36-37 degrees (well, except for kefir there and something else).

Well, even though they write that the yogurt sourdough is 36-42 degrees, but at a lower temperature, although it is slower, it tastes better, I think.
In general, girls, you will laugh, but somehow I decided to take the place of yogurt, I presented how it feels. And I realized that these bacilli are the same living beings, like us, in the end. But you live, do business and when the temperature is outside, for example, 25 degrees. and when under 40. But in the first case, you are very comfortable, and in the mood, and not tired, and ready for much more, and in the second case, tired, with high blood pressure, sweat in three streams and no longer pulls for any feats. So are bacilli. They are most comfortable at a BODY temperature of 36-37 degrees (well, except for kefir there and something else).

So I’m talking about sho! We do not complain about the taste, the taste is excellent, but this cooking speed is not entirely normal, as it seems to me. So I want Dax! I don't want to buy something else, to fix something somewhere, to spread something ... I want the yogurt maker to fulfill her intended purpose, without any dancing with tambourines.

So if someone wants exactly Mulinex, but he feels sorry for 400 UAH, then I will give mine for 190 UAH. Yogurt maker - about 9 months.

Why don't you want to buy a thermostat. UAH 90 will pull. Like Mulya is a normal yogurt maker. It is not automatic, without an automatic. timer? And without water between the banks according to the instructions? And it is very easy to put a regulator in it and there will be any temperature you want - from room temperature to the maximum of the ten's capabilities in your yogurt maker.

Why don't you want to buy a thermostat. UAH 90 will pull. Like Mulya is a normal yogurt maker. It is not automatic, without an automatic. timer? And without water between the banks according to the instructions?

So what is her normalcy? If it overheats, even if not critically. Yes, for such a price! Read my post above.

Why don't you want to buy a thermostat. UAH 90 will pull. Like Mulya is a normal yogurt maker. It is not automatic, without an automatic. timer? And without water between the banks according to the instructions? And it is very easy to put a regulator in it and there will be any temperature you want - from room temperature to the maximum of the ten's capabilities in your yogurt maker.

What for? if there are yogurt makers in nature that heat properly without any tricks? If this were a pipe dream, I would buy a thermostat. And so ... I want a cheap Dax that works as it should!

So what is her normalcy? If it overheats, even if not critically. Yes, for such a price! Read my post above.

So my Klatronic overheats, when I bought I knew it perfectly and when ordering I immediately ordered a thermostat on the website of the ukrrele. Now - as in paradise. I love my yogurt maker. You can do 30 degrees (for kefir) Can Dex be able to? I do not know.

What for? if there are yogurt makers in nature that heat properly without any tricks? If this were a pipe dream, I would buy a thermostat. And so ... I want a cheap Dax that works as it should!

There is such a yogurt maker VIVO, just in Ukraine 399 UAH. - 3 modes 30, 36, 42 degrees. Moreover, VIVO was made according to spec. order of the Kiev Institute of Milk and Meat Ideal for VIVO starter cultures. Mom has this, everything is just gorgeous, I envy her just white envy. When I took it for myself a year ago, it was not then available on the sites.

So my Klatronic overheats, when I bought I knew it perfectly and when ordering I immediately ordered a thermostat on the website of the ukrrele. Now - as in paradise. I love my yogurt maker. You can do 30 degrees (for kefir) Can Dex be able to? I do not know.

And I don't need kefir, I only make yoghurts in a yogurt maker.

There is such a yogurt maker VIVO, just in Ukraine 399 UAH. - 3 modes 30, 36, 42 degrees. Moreover, VIVO was made according to spec. order of the Kiev Institute of Milk and Meat Ideal for VIVO starter cultures. Mom has this, everything is just gorgeous, I envy her just white envy. When I took it for myself a year ago, it was not then available on the sites.

Of course, there is one, now I already know for sure, Dax is called. I used to know only theoretically.

And I seem to have read about Vivo, they also cut out the cardboard boxes, put these under the glasses. And it is worth something like Moulinex.

And I don't need kefir, I only make yoghurts in a yogurt maker.

In any case, your situation is not hopeless. There are several possibilities:

1) Buy a thermostat for the Mula.
2) Get rid of Muli (sell, donate, throw on the upper mezzanine, exchange for something, ...) and buy another in return - Dax, Vivo, whatever else you want.
As you can see, there is a choice and it is yours, no matter what we advise.

In any case, your situation is not hopeless. There are several possibilities:

1) Buy a thermostat for the Mula.
2) Get rid of Muli (sell, donate, throw on the upper mezzanine, exchange for something, ...) and buy another in return - Dax, Vivo, whatever else you want.
As you can see, there is a choice and it is yours, no matter what we advise.

So I didn't ask for advice ... I just expressed my point of view, suddenly it will be useful to someone. And she didn't write anything about the hopelessness of the situation either. Where is the hopelessness?
As I say, everything was fine with me until I saw with my own eyes the result of a normal, not overheating yogurt maker and heard with my ears how many hours it had been turned on. And then I just clemanulo. Now I have an obsession - I want yogurt that takes 8-10 hours to cook (and if it's an hour longer, that's okay too), not 4-5.

So I didn't ask for advice ... I just expressed my point of view, suddenly it will be useful to someone. And she didn't write anything about the hopelessness of the situation either. Where is the hopelessness?

Well, you know, it’s like: we didn’t call you, but you screwed up. You wrote that something does not suit you, well, we immediately try to offer a solution to the problem. If you don't need it, then well, we'll get over it, sorry for trying to help.

Well, you know, it’s like: we didn’t call you, but you screwed up. You wrote that something does not suit you, well, we immediately try to offer a solution to the problem. If you don't need it, then well, we'll get over it, sorry for trying to help.

Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you at all! But I really wrote here about Dax and my Moulinex not to solve some problem. As I say, everything suited me for almost a year, if you do not find fault. But a person always strives for the best. And yesterday I was finally convinced that the best of the yogurt makers so far is Dax. And she explained why. This is just my point of view, suddenly it will be useful to someone.After all, the more people leave their opinion about certain models of yogurt makers, the easier it will be for someone to make a choice.
There is no problem. Fair.
I didn't want to offend you, it's just a misunderstanding, we didn't understand each other a little. Sorry if that.

Good luck.

Dex again. Oksan, to be honest, I don't know what will be in it with yoghurt in 10 hours - I haven't tried it. I read here how important it is to catch the moment of thickening, otherwise the whey will bounce off - so I catch the first signs of thickening. My new yogurt takes 6-7 hours to prepare, depending on the sourdough. I don't keep it any longer, because I don't want cottage cheese, but yogurt. Over-sourdough from the mother's sourdough 5 hours. Perhaps I don't even keep it, because I'm afraid to overexpose it. But now I'll try to hold it longer. The most interesting is what happens. But I always make 1.5% fat from milk. Of course, the result is not as beautiful as from 3.2%. But even from such half-milk yoghurt turns out to be quite dense, only a little more rare from below.
Also in favor of Dex. Jars made of very high quality plastic - can withstand boiling and sterilization in a micron, do not break, tightly closed with lids. The set includes a bowl for 1.5-1.7 liters - in it you can heat milk in a micron, then add starter culture there and, if you wish, either pour it into jars or put it directly in the bowl. Someone likes the bowl, I prefer the jars. And I already wrote here before - I found suitable replacement jars (if someone basically needs glass ones), they come in no worse than relatives.

Dex again. Oksan, to be honest, I don't know what will be in it with yoghurt in 10 hours - I haven't tried it. I read here how important it is to catch the moment of thickening, otherwise the whey will bounce off - so I catch the first signs of thickening. My new yogurt takes 6-7 hours to prepare, depending on the sourdough. I don't keep it any longer, because I don't want cottage cheese, but yogurt. Over-sourdough from the mother's sourdough 5 hours. Perhaps I don't even keep it, because I'm afraid to overexpose it. But now I'll try to hold it longer. The most interesting is what happens. But I always make 1.5% fat from milk. Of course, the result is not as beautiful as from 3.2%. But even from such half-milk yoghurt turns out to be quite dense, only a little more rare from below.
Also in favor of Dex. Jars made of very high quality plastic - can withstand boiling and sterilization in a micron, do not break, tightly closed with lids. The set includes a bowl for 1.5-1.7 liters - in it you can heat milk in a micron, then add starter culture there and, if you wish, either pour it into jars or put it directly in the bowl. Someone likes the bowl, I prefer the jars. And I already wrote here before - I found suitable replacement jars (if someone basically needs glass ones), they come in no worse than relatives.

So otozh. Many people want to immediately with glass jars so as not to bother with picking up later. Well, the reviews are mostly positive about Dax 108, little about 157 is written here. But she took 157 to her relatives, and it was right. Dax did not disappoint here either. Now I can say with complete confidence that Dax 157 is just as good in terms of temperatures as 108. Therefore, those who want glass right away can easily take 157 and will not lose.

And now I have a sourdough in Mulinex, set it at 7 pm. 4 hours have passed, now it looks like milk, but I know for sure that in an hour there may already be overheating, so you have to look periodically. No, it’s not that there will be serum directly, but the splinters from the bottom will already go, and there will be serum in them. And this is already a sign of overheating. More than once it has already flown like plywood over Paris.

No, well, if flights over Paris, if not constant, then not uncommon - must be taken without hesitation. It's time to fix the problem once and for all.
Okay, Moulinex is a gift, and, as you know, they don't look under a skirt for a gift horse.
But these moments amaze me:

So my Klatronic overheats, when I bought I knew it perfectly and when ordering I immediately ordered a thermostat on the website of the ukrrele. Now - as in paradise.

One thing - the person did not know, he hoped that the firm of brooms does not knit. But to know about overheating before buying, and still buy ?! The only logical explanation is for the sake of kefir, for which a thermostat is needed for anybody (and Vivo with three temperatures has not yet existed, I understand, although I would not have made such a decision). But somewhere in this thread it slipped even earlier: the lady thoroughly went through the whole topic (where the problems of overheating Moulinex and Tefale are endlessly sucked), and proudly declared: thanks to everyone, I bought ... (I don't remember who exactly, but whom one of these two). Well, I don't understand this! It is expensive to pay for something that deliberately badly performs the declared functions! And to pay again knowingly that the company is driving the marriage

Many people want to immediately with glass jars, so as not to bother later with the selection.

But now I have two sets of cups, here! And in addition, horseradish is no less than Cat Matroskin's shoe polish

Oh, 157 DEH, so rectangular? I saw it at the representatives of VIVO in their home center on Raskovaya, but it seems to me that it is less convenient compared to the round 108, that you cannot put a jar in it or a jug I made ryazhenka in a 2 liter jug ​​and DEKH, only with a blanket on top- I covered it with a blanket, put it on in the evening and got a cool fermented baked milk in the morning.
I just gave it to my relatives now, and I do it in a cartoon, then in a slow cooker, it also works out well, I even laid out the recipe in MDV.

Now I can say with complete confidence that Dax 157 is just as good in terms of temperatures as 108. Therefore, those who want glass right away can easily take 157 and will not lose.

Oksanochka, tell me, please, are there any recesses for jars in 157? it will then be possible to adapt a rectangular container for kefir-curd, as in 108?
And then today I was tormented by a choice between them. I wanted to order 108, but they are not yet, but about 157 there were few reviews, now it’s not so scary, only if the bottom is even or not, is it possible to shove any jars there, instead of relatives or one container?

Oksana, why not place an advertisement for the sale of a yogurt maker at our flea market https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=27659.0 Let it hang in parallel here and there. Maybe someone has not thought about buying it yet, but announcing it on the right path will guide

But these moments amaze me

"She always amazed everyone, that's how she was" (Quote from the movie "Girls")

"She always amazed everyone, that's how she was" (Quote from the movie "Girls")

To quote it like this:
She always surprised everyone, that's the way she was.
Yes, amazing people happen nowadays

And the Kievans went evil, Shl ...

No, Mona, we're good! We just have evil teeth
Do not be angry at me. After all, I specially wrote in parentheses that your case at least has a logical explanation. Yes, I would never buy a yoghurt maker, knowing about its overheating, I would look for another one or even give up the idea of ​​homemade yoghurt, or rather, I would make it using the technology "craving for inventions". But you probably really need kefir, hence the decision.
Wasn't it possible to buy a cheap yoghurt maker with the same thermostat? Well, that's me, grumble. And then the husband is sleeping, you can't argue with him, but you want to talk

Well, my baked raisin bun has cooled down, I will go and taste with a jar of my delicious streptosan, made on an excellent yoghurt-making processor at the most optimal temperature for streptosan. Bon appetit!

Mona, not Nat! Here's not a bun with streptosan for the night! Or at least not so loudly, otherwise the others are also hot. My fridge is just stuffed with streptosan, and instead of a bun, I baked a fresh dietary pyrozhok. Apparently, very much ice, but you can try something only in the morning!
And if this is revenge, then she was quite successful. I will suffer until the morning

Wasn't it possible to buy a cheap yoghurt maker with the same thermostat?

So I did it. Especially before buying a month wool the entire Internet. And everywhere the same thing, everyone overheats, sooner or later. Therefore, I bought Klatronic, all the more I found information on how exactly they built it into this model. By the way, I don't make kefir, but the rest of the bacilli are not exactly the same temperature. Yoghurt - 36-42, others 35-37. third 36-38. I wanted to use the regulator to determine the optimum for each bacillus, at what temperature the product will be of the highest quality. And if you are tied to one regime, and take into account especially that the room is hot in summer and cold in winter, which means that the temperature in the yogurt maker differs by the same number of degrees. So think, is it bad to have a thermostat? I have, even in winter, even in summer - as I set the degrees, I have the same. STABLE.

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and what does streptosan taste like? Bo my first experience with fermented baked milk on streptosan was terrible - one continuous slimy lump But these were my first steps in yoghurt making and therefore I gave up on it, and now I read how you clog the refrigerator with them and think, but if I should try again , only not with baked milk, but with ordinary milk, just I don't know what to expect from it - what density, taste

In summer it is unlikely. If the room is under 40, the thermostat will not cool the future yogurt to the desired temperature, it will still overheat.
My Dex gives a stable 37 *, that is, it just falls into the main cultures. In summer, apparently, there will be more. But most likely in summer, yoghurt will ferment perfectly well without a yoghurt maker. It is just in the heat that you will need to make yoghurts that are less capricious in terms of temperature.

By the way, girls, we are all arguing, but it's time to hug, pour yoghurts into glasses, clink glasses and congratulate all of us hostesses on March 8! Hurray !!!

In summer it is unlikely. If the room is under 40, the thermostat will not cool the future yogurt to the desired temperature, it will still overheat.

Well, I don’t know, not everyone lives in Central Asia. Even within the apartment there are rooms that are cooler, probably there are less than 36. Right now, almost everyone has air conditioning.

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and what does streptosan taste like?

I can’t call myself really a lover of streptosan. I took it for the first time on trial. Honestly, so far I like Italian yoghurt more than others, and I mostly practice it. Streptosan, they say, is as close as possible to matsoni (thanks to which the highlanders live for almost 120 years).
It tastes more like an amateur, sourish. And the consistency I got is exactly the same as from the Italian sourdough. But I have 1.5% milk, I already wrote here. Therefore, the bottom is almost watery, but just a little less dense than the top. From above everything is fine: porcelain dense surface, very beautiful. From more fatty milk, I think, it will turn out even denser and more beautiful than mine.

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STEPTOSAN'S AMATEURS
and what does streptosan taste like? Bo my first experience with fermented baked milk on streptosan was terrible - one continuous slimy lump But these were my first steps in yogurt making and therefore I gave up on it, and now I read how you clog the refrigerator with them and think if I should try again , only not with baked milk, but with ordinary milk, just I don't know what to expect from it - what density, taste

Tastier than yoghurt, as for me, not as sour and sticky as some people have. The taste is difficult to describe. Stir with a spoon - liquid, like kefir becomes in consistency, drinks. I also somehow did it with baked milk, I didn’t like it, there was some bitterness, in short I switched to regular milk 3.2% or 2.6%, when I did.