irysska
Quote: nvk

We have the nearest metro in Simferopol. I already forgot about these coupons! Will be sent from dex. so they will send. No, I won't be offended. The main thing brought joy to the person with a gift, I myself shared my leavens, I gave several pieces for testing. Let all this remain on the conscience of the METRO leadership in Simferopol. Let's go!
I agree, because we bought Dex 108 not for a certificate for sourdough, but as just a good yogurt maker
Well, if the leaven is sent, it will be doubly pleasant.
Garry77
After reading your positive reviews about yogrutnitsk, I also decided to buy (besides, I myself suffer from gastrointestinal problems and I love yoghrt). I stopped the choice between Moulinex and Severin. Their price is almost the same and the functionality is the same, although the severins also have an additional 7 jars in the set. I sit in thought, I don't even know what to choose ... I'm also thinking about buying a thermostat, I think it will be difficult to prepare the right yogurt without it. In Russia, I hardly find such a unit, so I decided to order from Ukraine with delivery to Russia.The UKRRELE website has delivery to Russia, although the cost of delivery is 550 rubles, and the unit itself costs 337 rubles (or 84 grams). The leavens have already been tempered (also Kiev), it remains only to buy a yogurt
Lara_
In principle, all yogurt makers overheat. I've bought a thermostat for 600 rubles in Ukraine. But after I cut out and put the cardboard with holes on the bottom of the yogurt maker, in general, I did not use the thermostat.
But if you choose between these two models, Mulinex would advise, solely because other jars can fit into it. Actually, I also use it.
lunova-moskalenko
Quote: Lara_

In principle, all yogurt makers overheat. I've bought a thermostat for 600 rubles in Ukraine. But after I cut out and put the cardboard with holes on the bottom of the yogurt maker, in general, I did not use the thermostat.
But if you choose between these two models, Mulinex would advise, solely because other jars can fit into it. Actually, I also use it.

why everyone! I have DEX108, it does not overheat. We have already checked it specifically with a thermometer. Everything is fine!
Lara_
It's just that we don't have Dex in Russia. So I'm only talking about what I know ..
azaza
Quote: nvk

why everyone! I have DEX108, it does not overheat. We have already checked it specifically with a thermometer. Everything is fine!
And I have a Dex-108, and it doesn't overheat either. Great cheap car. But the brand seems to be exclusively for Ukraine sharpened, albeit China.
I see that Ukraine itself is sharpened for yoghurts: the best yoghurt makers, real starter cultures, thermometers-thermostats - we have everything here.
lunova-moskalenko
Quote: azaza

And I have a Dex-108, and it doesn't overheat either. Great cheap car. But the brand seems to be exclusively for Ukraine sharpened, albeit China.
I see that Ukraine itself is sharpened for yoghurts: the best yoghurt makers, real starter cultures, thermometers-thermostats - we have everything here.

Well, like we have rivers of milk already running and we have to process them for yoghurt! =) Is there really no decent yogurt maker in Russia that does not overheat? but there is a bunch of other better than here!
Antonovka
nvk,
I'll come to you, almost to Yalta, in the summer and buy myself a Dex-108, the main thing is to take it home
azaza
Quote: nvk

but there is a bunch of other better than here!
That's right. So we have to rejoice that we have at least something good, and more than affordable. The other day I bought a Dex blender - I'm so happy with my mules and yogurt maker of this brand. I hope it does not disappoint. The prices and two-year warranty are very pleasing.At such prices, in two years, a new unit can be bought if something happens. Sorry for the off-top.
azaza
Quote: Antonovka

nvk,
I'll come to you, almost to Yalta, in the summer and buy myself a Dex-108, the main thing is to take it home
And in the company of the yogurt maker, buy also a cartoon - a super-machine! And it will be cheaper than your Brand.
One thing is bad: if only Dex would take up the aerogrills, so that he would release the absolute analogues of Brand (especially the ten-speed one with three speeds).
Oops, I was carried off again
irysska
Quote: azaza

And I have Dex-108, and it doesn't overheat either. Great cheap car.
I confirm that in Dex 108 everything is OK with temperature - I use it myself.
Antonovka
azaza, irysska,
Girls, thanks! And there, by the summer, you will have something interesting
Laughter, laughter, but my yogurt maker Moulinex with a timer is overheating Nothing that I put on helps
irysska
Quote: Antonovka

azaza, irysska,
Girls, thanks! And there, by the summer, you will have something interesting
Laughter, laughter, but my yogurt maker Moulinex with a timer is overheating Nothing that I put on helps
Antonovka, and I tried a silicone hot plate, eh?
Antonovka
irysska,
Irish, I tried it! And she's such a plump honeycomb (she brought it from St. Petersburg). Also, tests were carried out: insulation (such as a tourist mat, white, only thinner), cardboard, now insulation (thinner than the previous one), only foil + 7 kitchen paper towels + the whole yogurt maker is on a grate with 3 mm plywood (it is ventilated, my colleague advised me to do this) ) and still the temperature in the average jar is 48 degrees, at the edges 47
irysska
Quote: Antonovka

irysska,
Irish, I tried it! And she's such a plump honeycomb (she brought it from St. Petersburg). Also tests were carried out: insulation (such as a tourist mat, white, only thinner), cardboard, now insulation (thinner than the previous one), only foil + 7 kitchen paper towels + stands on a wire rack with a cardboard (ventilated) and still the temperature in an average jar degrees 48, around 47
Sad picture: cray: And what is most important - the thermostat won't work - the yogurt maker has a timer. Well then, just either throw out the yogurt maker (well, this is radical) or conduct tests: turn on the silicone stand at the bottom, turn it on, after about an hour, turn it off - measure the temperature in the jars, if necessary - turn it on again, if the temperature is already required, turn it off and keep it with the lid closed as in a thermos, and after a while turn it on again, etc. It may be possible to select the mode in this way.
Or, as someone on the forum advised: we put the jars, closed with lids, in a yogurt maker - and do not cover the yogurt maker with a lid.
Antonovka
irysska,
I’ll do better tests I did the tests with water, but the situation with yoghurt was completely different
irysska
Quote: Antonovka

irysska,
I’ll do better tests I did the tests with water, but the situation with yoghurt was completely different
Helen, good luck in a difficult battle with a harmful yogurt maker
azaza
Quote: irysska

or to carry out tests: on the bottom of the silicone stand, turn it on, after about an hour, turn it off - measure the temperature in the jars, if necessary - turn it on again, if the temperature is already required - turn it off from the socket and hold it with the lid closed like in a thermos, and after some then turn on again, etc. It may be possible to select the mode in this way.
And the point then in such a yogurt maker? It can be done in the same way in a mul, not suitable for yogurt. I did that in Dex-50. There the minimum temperature is 45 *, so I danced on this program: turn it on, turn it off, turn it on again. Then I got tired of dancing with tambourines, and bought a yogurt maker. Yoghurt makers, after all, buy in order to avoid all these "turned on, noted the time, after 15 minutes measured the temperature, put it on the grate by the battery: so that it is warm and cool at the same time." All this can be done in a cartoon or a banal thermos. The yoghurt maker was invented just to set and forget.Why else is it needed at all? If Moulinex cannot cope with overheating in any way, they should have left the yogurt maker market a long time ago, like Tefal. I do not believe that the manufacturers of such a marriage do not know that their equipment is not up to the task. However, things are still there.
irysska
azaza
But if Lena already has this yogurt maker anyway, she really wants it to be useful, because you can somehow adapt. The main thing here is to work out a method once - and then there will be no need to dance - you already know how to do it. After all, people who do not have Milk porridge in the cartoons or something else - to cook these cereals, etc. - adapt themselves, and after all, they also dances with tambourines, the cartoon should also do everything, in theory, on the machine.
I have a Yogurt function in my cartoon, but I still do it more often in a yogurt maker, although, in fairness, I note that I don't have such problems with Dex 108.
So I partly disagree with you. You have to adapt to the existing conditions.
Antonovka
azaza,
There was no sense, or rather logic, when I changed it for the first time (it warmed up even more), and did not pass it right away. And to throw it out - the hand does not rise, almost 55-60 dollars.Now there are no special dances either - I realized that she defeated me)))))))) The yoghurt comes out tasty, does not stratify, but I know what it is just food, since the beneficial bacteria most likely died, but in any case, it is still less harmful than store-bought yogurt (I am soothing myself)
irysska
Quote: Antonovka

azaza,
but in any case, it is still less harmful than store-bought yogurt (I am soothing myself)
yes, exactly, I agree 100%
What if you do defeat her, huh?
azaza
I’m really against it! I growl at the manufacturers-bunglers I do not understand how you can drive a marriage for years, and just sit on the priest, not take a steam bath. After all, there were times when milk was boiled in Tefala! Years go by - I was not too lazy, I looked, the first message in the topic is dated 10/15/2007 - but the matter is not moving. 4.5 years only for this topic, and how many complaints about Tefali and Mulinex overheating in it! It's just a monstrous reputation !!! And the producers don't care. OK, they didn't care when there were only two yogurt makers on the market. But now their bulk, and even at prices, two or three times more pleasant! With such competition, they would not survive. But no, they live so far. I am surprised that someone else is buying their products. Okay, those who bought for a long time, not knowing about the flaws. But here, in the subject, I saw: the young lady had read about Tefali's terrible work - and she went to buy Tefal, because she was the most expensive and famous. While the market is full of cheap and QUALITY yogurt makers !!! And after this Temka, I'm not like yogurt makers - I won't take any equipment from these companies. Okay, it happens to everyone, everyone has a marriage. But take Dex, for example (it was just said about him earlier) - if a defective technique comes across, they change it without talking. And what about Mulinex-Tefali? Figs to you - and all business.
Toffee, yes, people are adapting. BUT: to what they don't have! Here you can dance for the sake of economy. I myself danced with yogurt in Dex 50, while the yogurt maker was gone. Then it's not so offensive to dance: because you do exactly what you did not pay money for. So it is with milk porridge in mules, not sharpened under milk. A person has saved on functions, so he adapts. And then, damn it, the most offensive thing is that they paid, and even paid dofig !!! And now I have to dance.
To sum up everything that has been said: Russians, let's go to us for yoghurt makers
By the way, is there Vinis in Russia? These are practically analogs of Dex, just as cheap, and I have not heard any complaints about them.
Lara_
No vines either ..

I absolutely agree with your post .. Only, you see, the manufacturers don't care about us ..
We are third world countries for them .. why bother us at all? I think they are shaving off unnecessary crafts for us ..
But the device is primitive ... It's a shame ..
Lozja
They constantly ask me which is the best yogurt maker to take (I sell them)? I tell everyone - take from cheap ones (Dax, Delphi) + buy a thermostat and save yourself on lipstick.And I explain why it makes no sense to buy an expensive yoghurt maker (and I also have such, Mulinex, for example). So buyers run away from me after such conversations, they think, apparently, that I'm some kind of crazy. Well, where have you seen a seller who advises to buy goods cheaper, not more expensive. And I want what is best for them.

Although, from Moulinex herself, they gave it to us, I didn't buy it myself. The one without a timer. And I never bought a thermostat. At first I wanted, and then it seemed like the need disappeared. They gave it to us for the summer, just for the heat. She spread 5-6 paper towels, and everything is fine. I measured the temperature - normal. For some reason, I just prepare yoghurt twice as fast as the instructions write. But the product itself is normal, I want to believe that it is useful (since the temperature in it is normal).
Summer passed, I had to take out the towels from the bottom, left one piece, just so that the jars would not run. And it is also normal, nothing overheats, the temperature of the yogurt is as expected.
So what I want to say. It seems to me that Moulinex Moulinex is different, even if they are of the same model. Apparently, here someone is as lucky. And I would not get off the service until I received a normal copy, knowing that for some this model does not overheat to such an extent.

Quote: Antonovka

The yogurt comes out tasty, does not stratify, but I know that this is just food, since the beneficial bacteria most likely died, but in any case it is still less harmful than store-bought yoghurt (I am soothing myself)

Strange, usually with strong overheating, either stratification or whey. Did you accurately measure the temperature of the yogurt itself?

lunova-moskalenko
Quote: Antonovka

nvk,
I'll come to you, almost to Yalta, in the summer and buy myself a Dex-108, the main thing is to take it home

Take out is not a problem. My husband, through a conductor, generally took out discs for the Gazelle from Moscow. In! Idea! You are bringing us a Brand multicooker. and I'll organize a bunch of deksiks here with promotional coupons for yogurt! =) So I want a multicooker Brand, no words! I thought to ask my aunt to bring it, but she whines that it will be hard for her and so on ... Well, such are the relatives!
fronya40
I have Vinis, for only 160 UAH. very happy. I got used to it and make yogurt with homemade milk and enjoy !!!!
Antonovka
azaza,
So no one refused to change it either. It's just that my husband once went to him and was told - you were still lucky, here the girl returned so Mulya boiled her milk And when the second turned out to be overheated, but less - I spat, although I had to return and take Severin some thread or any without a timer , and then buy a timer from you. Now she is a little over a year old and, as usual, has put her documents somewhere, but I don’t think that they would change her now, alas
Lozja,
I measure with an electronic thermometer - and then who knows - what is its error Thermometer like Caprice
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=1429.0
Yes, and the cans below are hot to the touch. And then I myself wonder why there is no serum. Although it was a couple of times, but quite a bit, and - along the can there was a small strip of serum
Antonovka
nvk,
Yes, not a question - it's not difficult for me, only I will be with you oh, how long ago, only from June 25, God forbid, nothing will change. And on the plane for the second time in my life - I don't know what the order is.
During my last visit (2010) I wanted my mother to buy induction tiles for some ridiculous price, then I liked HP Orion - also inexpensive, and the consultant in the store (forgot the name - Foxtrot ???, in Alushta) scared that it was not We'll take it out, like, the customs will sort it out by screws (we were on the train). Only a tripod for a camera down and cost
lunova-moskalenko
Quote: Antonovka

nvk,
Yes, not a question - it's not difficult for me, only I will be with you oh, how long ago, only from June 25, God forbid, nothing will change. And on the plane for the second time in my life - I don't know what the order is.
During my last visit (2010) I wanted my mother to buy induction tiles for some ridiculous price, then I liked HP Orion - also inexpensive, and the consultant in the store (I forgot the name - Foxtrot ???, in Alushta) scared that it wasn’t We'll take it out, like, the customs will sort it out by screws (we were on the train). Only a tripod for a fotik and cost

Well, if I don’t buy DEX-60 during this time ..., then I’ll ask you to bring it. As for the yoghurt maker, you can send it to you as well. I can find out! And about Foxtrot, then ... You were deceived !!! I know for sure up to a certain amount, you can safely carry. Tomorrow I will specifically consult.But our disks were taken out in 3 pieces per trip. The price of each disc came out on our money 350 UAH. I don't remember how much you have at the rate. But if you translate it into greens, then the price of the disc is $ 44. They took it out calmly! I can't tell you about the plane, the current is for the train. But I still think that the conditions for the export of goods at a price are the same. And Alushta is 30 minutes away from us!
irysska
Quote: azaza

I’m really against it! I growl at the manufacturers-bunglers I do not understand how you can drive a marriage for years, and just sit on the priest, not take a steam bath. After all, there were times when milk was boiled in Tefale! Years go by - I was not too lazy, I looked, the first message in the topic was dated 10/15/2007 - but things are not moving. 4.5 years only for this topic, and how many complaints about Tefali and Mulinex overheating in it! It's just a monstrous reputation !!! And the producers don't care. OK, they didn't care when there were only two yogurt makers on the market. But now their bulk, and even at prices, two or three times more pleasant! With such competition, they would not survive. But no, they live so far. I am surprised that someone else is buying their products. Okay, those who bought for a long time, not knowing about the flaws. But here, in the subject, I saw: the young lady had read about Tefali's terrible work - and she went to buy Tefal, because she was the most expensive and famous. While the market is full of cheap and QUALITY yogurt makers !!! And after this Temka, I'm not like yogurt makers - I won't take any equipment from these companies. Okay, it happens to everyone, everyone has a marriage. But take Dex, for example (it was just said about him earlier) - if a defective technique comes across, they change it without talking. And what about Mulinex-Tefali? Figs to you - and all business.
Toffee, yes, people are adapting. BUT: to what they don't have! Here you can dance for the sake of economy. I myself danced with yogurt in Dex 50, while the yogurt maker was gone. Then it's not so offensive to dance: because you do exactly what you didn't pay money for. So it is with milk porridge in mules, not sharpened under milk. A person has saved on functions, so he adapts. And then, damn it, the most offensive thing is that they paid, and even paid dofig !!! And now I have to dance.
To summarize everything that has been said: Russians, let's go to us for yogurt makers
By the way, is there Vinis in Russia? These are practically analogs of Dex, just as cheap, and I have not heard any complaints about them.
matroskin_kot
Quote: Antonovka

nvk,
the consultant in the store (forgot the name - Foxtrot ???, in Alushta) scared that we would not take it out, like, the customs will sort everything out by screws (we were on the train). Only a tripod for a camera down and cost
Lenus, the main thing is that the receipts for purchases were ... I brought half of the trunk with little attachments., The cunning husband took the fat deep into the trunk, and attached my boxes on top. But .. checks for purchases are our everything !!!!
Antonovka
Ospidyayayayayayay, I was so scared that last time I only brought 3 bottles of wine, and on the train I already saw that people were dragging boxes
nvk,
We will live until the summer - there will be a reason to meet)))))))
lunova-moskalenko
Quote: Antonovka

Ospidyayayayayayay, I was so scared that last time I only brought 3 bottles of wine, and on the train I already saw that people were dragging boxes
nvk,
We will live until the summer - there will be a reason to meet)))))))

Damn, something started spinning today. that knowledgeable people forgot to consult about the amount of export of goods. but here my husband tells me that you seem to have been allowed to import up to 1000 euros without taxes. Chess word, I'll find out everything on Monday.
azaza
Quote: nvk

but here my husband tells me that you seem to have been allowed to import up to 1000 euros without taxes. Chess word, I'll find out everything on Monday.
In fact, Ukraine can only get tax-free for up to 200 euros. Maybe there are some exceptions for Russia - I don't know. And about 200 euros, they always ask me at customs: do they exceed presents the designated amount. At the same time, what is considered a gift and what is not - somehow everything is blurry.
Again, this is an import in Ukraine. But export from it and import to Russia can be carried out according to different rules.
mowgli
Why do I have yogurt "snotty" all the time? I ferment the activity, turn it off as the yogurt maker Moulinex stops swaying
azaza
Quote: mowgli

Why do I have yogurt "snotty" all the time? I ferment the activity, turn it off as the yogurt maker Moulinex stops swaying
And what fat do you have? I have 1.5%, so it's not as strong as I would like. But from Activia it is normal, from Beefelife it is snotty, yes, but delicious. Maybe try fatter milk (if, of course, "religion" allows)
lunova-moskalenko
Quote: azaza

In fact, Ukraine can only get tax-free for up to 200 euros. Maybe there are some exceptions for Russia - I don't know. And about 200 euros, they always ask me at customs: do they exceed presents the designated amount. At the same time, what is considered a gift and what is not - somehow everything is blurry.
Again, this is an import in Ukraine. But export from it and import to Russia can be carried out according to different rules.

my husband says that in the middle of that year they raised the amount of import. But I'll find out for sure on Monday! There is a small end in the customs, tiny, tiny, but I think he knows the rules of import and export!
Antonovka
nvk,
Once the tip is in customs, maybe he knows our conditions of export and import? And then the Internet - well, a very contradictory thing
lunova-moskalenko
Quote: Antonovka

nvk,
Once the tip is in customs, maybe he knows our conditions of export and import? And then the Internet - well, a very contradictory thing

Well, I also want to learn from him about everything there and back! You never know, come in handy!
azaza
Quote: nvk

my husband says that in the middle of that year they raised the amount of import.
Eh, and I, you bastard, did not know! I left half of the "gifts" with my daughter. And what, just raised up to 1000 euros? Hurray for the Ukrainian customs !!!
azaza
Girls who have Dex-108. Question: can cups and bowl be sterilized in a micron? I scald it with boiling water, but I thought: if the plastic can withstand 100 *, maybe it can withstand microwaves?
rusja
Quote: azaza

Girls who have Dex-108. Question: can cups and bowl be sterilized in a micron?

YES!
I have done this many times!

azaza
Well, thank you! Wonderful!
irysska
Quote: azaza

Girls who have Dex-108. Question: can cups and bowl be sterilized in a micron? I scald it with boiling water, but I thought: if the plastic can withstand 100 *, maybe it can withstand microwaves?
I have a Dex 108.
Of course it will stand I didn’t sterilize it, but I heated the milk in a saucepan to a hot state - everything is OK!
rusja
I just didn't float the lids in the microwaves, they can curl up and show up there, and I poured water into the cups, cover something a little more than the bottom and like stealized for 3-4 minutes. Everything is complete OK.
azaza
Well, I didn't even think about the caps in the micr. There was a sad experience of Kryshechka - they are.
By the way, I don't sterilize them at all. They take a very passive part in the process - only when the ready-made yoghurt is sent to the refrigerator, and they do not come into direct contact with the product.
And I suppose to sterilize the jars dry. When I put it in glass jars, I did it. Everything was perfectly sterilized without water. No bacillus can survive with these nasty microwaves.
Luysia
Quote: azaza

And I suppose to sterilize the jars dry. When I put it in glass jars, I did it. Everything was perfectly sterilized without water. No bacillus can survive with these nasty microwaves.

If you put cans without water at all, the micra may not survive!
rusja
My DEHIK left "in a straight line", but after a year and a half of its operation, I got the hang of temperature conditions and sourdoughs, so I'm not going to look for a replacement for it, I make yoghurts and sour cream in muliatkh-DEHe-50 (which has no function of yogurt) in Liberton Kid.
irysska
And it was not a pity to give a friend "in the arms" This is of course a joke
Yes, whoever has a cartoon can do without a yogurt maker. Although I still make yoghurt more often in a yogurt maker than in a cartoon.
Quote: Luysia

If you put cans without water at all, the micra may not survive!
This is for sure, empty containers cannot be heated in a microwaire, you need to pour at least a little water.
azaza
Quote: Luysia

If you put cans without water at all, the micra may not survive!
Well, and ... In general, there it is and the road Only takes place. Although ... In some ways, the unit seems to be useful. Maybe I'll regret it. But it really takes up a decent chunk of usable space. I'd better stick another mulychka there. Or a pressure cooker ... And also a slow cooker asks to stay ... Eh, where are all of them to be placed, hearts?

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