lyudmia
And we, so as not to turn up our nose, will continue to bake in the stove
Ninelle
Kara, and mine at work and at home, by both cheeks, they gobble up both bread, and they don't turn their nose up. By the way, as I went to work, only in KhP and bake. Actually, I bought it, because there was less time, and everything is good and tasty.
Kara
Oh, Ninelle, and don't tell me, mother, you can't bake with a full work schedule. But on weekends I always spoil mine, especially since there are a lot of recipes that don't require particularly costly body movements, only 5 minutes every two hours. I love it very much this bread
Diana 14
I really want a bread maker! Stopped at Panasonic, tell me which model is better? While watching 2051
sazalexter
Diana 14, SD-2501 and take
anatolic
I bought 2501 for my wife as a present. The process of baking bread was so exciting that I bake it myself. The wife is only glad of this. I really like this stove.
yudinel
Diana 14, and I advise you 2501: girl-yes: I use it for six months every day and more than once. And the bread bakes different wonderful and the dough kneads perfectly. Really like
lyudmia
And I'm over 2501 - a wonderful stove
Wit
Quote: yudinel
And the bread bakes different wonderful and the dough kneads perfectly.

In fairness, I will clarify that "AND bread bakes different wonderful and kneads the dough perfectly." also 2500th and 2502nd. Only one is cheaper than the 2501st, and the second is more expensive. And they too wonderful stoves
anatolic
Quote: Wit
Only one is cheaper than the 2501st, and the second is more expensive.
And most importantly, there is no rye bread regime in the 2500.
Diana 14
Thank you very much for your help!)) I came to the store as the seller began to scare that in Panasonic the plastic part on which the bucket spins, heats up and smells like the bread says plastic and breaks constantly .. I feel ... he composes ... I just need to clarify and in 2051 can you bake sourdough bread? and gluten free? I have an allergic child and I'm going to learn how to bake such bread and knead dough for pies))
sazalexter
Diana 14Does the child have celiac disease? Gluten-free bread is only baked for this condition.
For gluten-free there is a special mode, for semi-manual sourdough, only very expensive CPs that have programming can handle the sourdough on the machine.
sazalexter
Olex
I chose between 2501 and 02 for a long time, I stayed at 1. Satisfied ..... Cheaper, a bunch of modes, the second dispenser - I can easily manage. And what a fabulous rye bread turns out!
Wit
Quote: Anatolian
And most importantly, there is no rye bread regime in the 2500.
Begins! In the morning and under a bad mood
anatolic, are you related to mass media? Only there they teach to lie, telling the truth. Here is your "... in 2500 there is no regime" rye bread ... "newcomers have read and perceived as unambiguous:" And the most important thing in 2500 can't bake "Rye bread". IT'S A LIE!
To begin with, for the lazy, a completely repost of a respected specialist, from whom many have learned and learned a lot here:

"It is not necessary to have a rye program! It is much more important to have a high-quality oven and the ability to maneuver the programs!
Time will pass and you will not be satisfied with the Rye Bread program, you will want custard, Borodino and other breads and you will need to combine kneading, proofing and baking - we all went through this " More details: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=169416.0

"Rye" tips from Gasha: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=72478.100
Read everything. There are 15 pages and are read in one breath. I will give only one repost of the master:
"Luda, if you carefully read the first few posts of this topic, you will see that I do not recommend using automatic modes for making rye bread.For rye dough, short kneading is important, proofing until the dough doubles and baking for about an hour and ten minutes. More details: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=72478.0

And so https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=126137.680
See the blue post on this page
How to easily bake Rye bread in Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 - Watch the movie, read the step-by-step instructions HERE.
Giraffe
I bake rye perfectly at 2500 and purposefully did not overpay for this function at 2501
Masyusha
Quote: Giraffe
I bake rye perfectly at 2500
Tatyana I also have 2500 and no problems with rye bread!
Diana 14
Thank you very much for your advice!): Girl_curtsey: otherwise I've been breaking my head for a month now, I think we should take 2051)
anatolic
Quote: Wit
Anatolian, are you related to mass media?
No, I am a humble rural pensioner. And not at all a professional in baking, but an amateur. And I am quite satisfied with custard bread on the rye mode. I don't intend to dance around the stove. Sorry, I never thought that the forum has two opinions: one is yours, the other is not correct. I will not write more. It's hard at my age, in the morning, having run into outright rudeness and distorting facts, to remain in a spoiled mood all day.
Katris
I am also quite satisfied with the rye bread. There was no desire to maneuver the programs, although it can be done both in 2501 and in 2502. If it suddenly ever arises. I need a bread maker so that she can do everything herself to the maximum. And you can bake excellent bread in the oven. So, I consider the overpayment for the rye regime reasonable. We are all different, and we all have our own opinion.

Anatolich.
sazalexter
Quote: Diana 14
heats up and smells like bread says plastic and breaks constantly ..
What sellers can't think of, for the sake of selling stale goods, you can't trust them, they have an installation to sell everything. Panasonic is "sold by itself", many other firms have to be "vtyuhivat" For some types of equipment sellers from suppliers receive a premium.
Diana 14
HURRAH! I bought a bread maker! 2501)) I sit baked bread!)) The simplest)) then we will try other recipes)) well, and then there is an independent swimming))
ALL MANY THANKS FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND PATIENCE WITH US NEWS))
Wit
Congratulations on your purchase! If you have any questions - contact us, we will help. Good luck and delicious bread!
Ekaterina2

b] Diana 14 [/ b], there are such "delicious" recipes !! We really like this one - Black rye bread in a bread maker - (can be found in the search bar), the bun is small in size and not always beautiful on top, but delicious !!!! I have 2501 too! I am very pleased. I should have bought it earlier.

Diana 14
thanks)) I will definitely try! we especially love rye!)))
Diana 14
And where do you buy malt for rye bread? I can not find))
Ekaterina2
I bake with leavened wort. Sold in regular stores.
Masyusha
Quote: Diana 14
And where do you buy malt for rye bread? I can not find))
Ashan always has
Ekaterina2
Masyusha, it's so far from us to the nearest Ashan ... It's a pity that Diana doesn't write where she lives
yudinel
Diana 14To bake rye bread I brew dry kvass, look there is a recipe for "Borodinsky". Very good at it
anatolic
Quote: Ekaterina2
so far from us to the nearest Auchan
I bought it in an ordinary rural store. Just asked for luck. It turns out there is almost always and is in demand. Try asking around in stores.
Diana 14
I baked the first bread !!)) hurray !! everything worked out! : yahoo: I've been getting ready with the bread maker for so long that when my friends heard that I had bought and were going to bake, they flooded me with a crowd!)) I was scared at first, I think suddenly nothing will work out? .. but hurray! everything worked out !! bread weakened immediately !! the children then came running and asked if there was any bread))) I am very grateful to everyone who told me how to choose a stove, how to bake, thank you very much!)) otherwise the sellers in the store scared that plastic bread in Panasonic smells like plastic, that it breaks, that it bakes badly ... in general, horror !!!)) all Bork advised me)) but, I immediately liked the Panasonic and fit perfectly into the kitchen !!!)) I live in Chelyabinsk, Auchan, we have to go to see the must, I am there bitterly )) I think at the weekend to bake rye bread)) today I will bake an egg again))) my son already demands in the morning))
AnastasiaK
Diana 14, congratulations on a successful debut! In Auchan, I always buy Saf-Levure yeast in bags of 50 g. The perfect result is always good, the bread does not smell like yeast, the bag is enough for me for a month. I bake in a day or two.
Panasonic: I want to join the ranks, but I doubt it ...
Albina
Diana 14, you can still put bread in the evening so that in the morning you will be woken up by the smell of fresh bread So nice to wake up when the smell of fresh baked goods spreads through the apartment
Ekaterina2
Diana 14, with a good start to you! I often put bread in the morning. But he needs some time to cool down before breakfast. Since I get up at 6-15, I also delay baking so that the stove stops working at 6-15. Before breakfast, the bread has time to cool down on the wire rack.
Taia
Quote: Albina
You can also put bread in the evening so that in the morning the smell of fresh bread will wake you up It's so nice to wake up when the smell of fresh baked goods spreads through the apartment

The bread is baked for an hour, and the aroma begins some time after baking.
If you get up at 6 in the morning, then the aroma begins to wake up at 5-15. If in the evening, you won't fall asleep from the aromas, even if you are full.
Therefore, I start baking only in the morning.
Ekaterina2
Quote: Taia
If you get up at 6 in the morning, then the aroma begins to wake up at 5-15.
And that's why I'm closing the door to the kitchen!
Albina
I put on the main mode after 23 hours. So in the morning I take it out almost cold, sometimes I can get it out of the bucket at night It does not always happen that the next morning you need fresh bread
Painting
And I, so that the aroma of bread does not awaken, I bake on the loggia. There are already neighbors who do not sleep, whose windows are next to me. I have bedroom windows on the other side. And they also gave me a second bread maker and also Panasonic. It's great.
anatolic
Quote: Albina
So in the morning I take it out almost cold,
I tried this, but my bottom crust is wet in the morning. What about you? What am I doing wrong?
Albina
Quote: Anatolian
my bottom crust is wet in the morning.
And I’m wet, but it doesn’t bother me at all. Almost all of the bread is still eaten. If you still have bread in the morning, you can put it on with a delayed start. And in the morning, calmly take out the finished bread.
lega
Quote: Anatolian
in the morning the bottom crust of the bread is wet. What about you? What am I doing wrong?

You do everything THIS! After the end of the program, the stove switches to the "Keep warm" mode for only one hour. If during this time you haven't pulled out the bread, then the heating element turns off and the cooling begins. The condensate has nowhere to go in the bucket (it's not for nothing that we cool the bread on the wire rack) and the crust gets soaked. This can only be avoided by timing correctly.
Diana 14
Oh! what a delicious bread !!!! the child demands again !!!)) I feel I will have to bake every day!))
sazalexter
Diana 14, Bake according to recipes from the forum, for example https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=2972.0 very tasty
Wit
They taught here that after baking the bread should stand for at least 8 hours ... Oppankii, I found it!
"Nutritionists believe that at least 8 hours should pass from the moment of baking bread to eating it ..." It's here: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=152589.0
I highly recommend to come here and be enlightened. Make sure you didn't know a lot. And thank Admin for her page.

Although ... do not gobble up a hot crispy edge, almost always beyond my strength
Chef
Quote: Wit
Anatoly, do you have anything to do with the mass media? Only there they teach to lie, telling the truth.
A month of rest from writing posts (read-only mode) for blatant rudeness. I analyzed the post of the interlocutor - he did not deserve such an attitude.
metel_007
I want to buy HP Panasonic, I found model 2501 for 1655 UAH (120 USD). What's suspiciously cheap or not?
Taia
Yes, it's cheap, I would also have doubts.
metel_007
Look here, can you tell me something
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Giraffe
Quote: metel_007

I want to buy HP Panasonic, I found model 2501 for 1655 UAH (120 USD). What's suspiciously cheap or not?
Or what kind of action? Our money is just a promotional discount. I would not think about it. I would also tell everyone who wants it. But I don't know how your pricing is. For me, such a price would definitely not arouse suspicion.
Go, have a look, feel. You never know, the old delivery at the old price. Or the store is closing.

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