sazalexter
metel_007If the store is checked, you need to take it, this model has already been discontinued, there may be a sale of leftovers.
metel_007
Quote: Giraffe
Go, have a look, feel.
Tanya can't, this is an online store.
Quote: sazalexter
If the store is verified, you need to take
Alexander, I did not take anything in this store, so I doubt it. Maybe someone from Ukraine knows something about him and will tell you. Although I made an order, the manager should contact me. maybe the price is old, although the old prices were higher
Taia
When I bought my bread maker I noticed how it was packed. And she was, as it were, sealed in a plastic stocking. And it was on this basis that I realized that the bread maker was not opened, because it would be unrealistic to restore the packaging.
This is in case you don't slip the used one.
metel_007
Taia, Thank you. I will be on guard.
notglass
Two weeks ago I bought another Panasonic 2501 bakery for 5,800 in Eldorado. The box was covered with plastic. They opened it in front of me. I took it through an Internet store. Now the new Panasonic 2511 is already on sale. These have the price of a strategic bomber. I also contacted her all. I didn’t like it and I didn’t understand why that kind of money? Well, heating, I personally don't need it and some other program. And for this 9 790? In my opinion, an overkill. The bucket seemed smaller than ours.
Maybe a low price due to the fact that the leftovers are being sold out? Or bought it at the old price?
In any case, if the delivery is by courier, you can refuse the goods if, upon inspection, something did not like it and alerted. Such as damaged packaging, stains on the machine, scratches, cracks, dents, etc.
metel_007
Anya, so it will be sent by the carrier. And I will ask the manager about the packaging, they should call me. I will order by cash on delivery, to see first, and then pay.
metel_007
Well, everything, I'm in flight, they called back and said that they sold it on Friday.
sazalexter
metel_007Clearly, a way to lure a customer by offering a price lower than in other stores, then "twist your brains" and try to sell at least something.
sazalexter
The price is gradually decreasing Panasonic SD-2511 6990 rubles.
notglass
Alexander, yes, the prices on the market are different, but if you take delivery to me, it will be the same or even more expensive. But all the same, personally, I like the old 2501 better. But this is subjective.
Albina
Quote: sazalexter
The price is gradually decreasing Panasonic SD-2511 6990 rubles.
And I followed the link 9490r
metel_007
Quote: sazalexter
a way to lure a customer by offering a price lower than in other stores
By the way, and it was started to offer another model for 1000 UAH more expensive
Katris
I looked at the Eldorado website, and there the price of a Panasonic 2501 bread maker is 4189 rubles. Maybe someone will need information.
So_snovskaya
Dear bakers! Now we are choosing a bread maker and, after reading the forum, I came to the conclusion that Panasonic is one of the most reliable in terms of production quality. But: we need the ability to bake bread, both whole grain and yeast-free (leavened). The market (Yandex) says that either one or the other. It seems like there is no model that can bake both options. Maybe it's still possible? And it's not about programs, but about skill? Tell me please!
Giraffe
Everything is possible on our forum ...
echeva
Quote: So_snovskaya
But: we need the ability to bake bread, both whole grain and yeast-free (leavened). The market (Yandex) says that either one or the other.
I have a Panassonik 2501 - I bake every day with sourdough (yeast-free) and bake whole grain too. Do not doubt! Panasonic will not let you down!
Larra
Quote: So_snovskaya
Maybe it's still possible? And it's not about programs, but about skill? Tell me please!
There are a lot of recipes here that the craftsmen of this forum bake with sourdough (and various), in bread makers, and in our beloved Panasonic in particular, so it's still a matter of skill, and not what the instructions for the stoves or the sellers in stores tell us. This oven bakes perfectly normal, and rye, and whole grain, and sourdough bread (and many others))))
So_snovskaya
Quote: echeva
I have a Panassonik 2501 - I bake every day with sourdough (yeast-free) and bake whole grain too. Do not doubt! Panasonic will not let you down!

Zhenya, if you were now taking a Panasonic bread maker, which model would you choose? The same one?
metel_007
Hurray, I will also have Panasik 2510 soon. As I understood all the models are good, I proceeded from the price and availability. Mine costs UAH 2200. ($ 157)
yudinel
So_snovskaya, so if I were buying a bread maker now, then only Panasonic 2501!!!
echeva
Quote: So_snovskaya
Zhenya, if you were now taking a Panasonic bread maker, which model would you choose? The same one?
yes, it is this model that I would take .. I think it was metal. case in 2502 and a dispensary for yeast - unnecessary functions .. everything you need is in my favorite HP Panasonic 2501
sorento
metel_007, unsubscribe later about the stove when you try it. I also look at 2510, she has a smaller bucket, but there are no reviews yet.
Larra
Quote: echeva
yes, it is this model that I would take .. I think it was metal. case in 2502 and a dispensary for yeast - unnecessary functions .. everything you need is in my favorite HP Panasonic 2501
I have 2502, a wonderful stove, bakes perfect. And I took it precisely because of the design, well, I need it this way, and I use the dispenser, it is very convenient, although if you like white in design, then 2501 is the same, and yeast itself is not difficult to fill up, and you do not need to overpay)))
echeva
Quote: Larra
2501 is the same, but yeast itself is not difficult to fall asleep, and you do not need to overpay)))
and I mean the same - thanks for your understanding
metel_007
Quote: sorento

metel_007, unsubscribe later about the stove when you try it. I also look at 2510, she has a smaller bucket, but there are no reviews yet.
Yes, I will definitely unsubscribe. Well, about the bucket, there is a max. weight 1000 grams, and in the model 2501 - 1250 grams. But I don’t bake such big bread. Mostly 600-800 grams.
And that no one has this stove? Is this an updated 2500 model or am I wrong?
Larra
Quote: metel_007
And that no one has this stove? Is this an updated 2500 model or am I wrong?
OlgaThe 2510 is the updated 2500, the 2511 is the updated 2501, and the 2512 is the updated 2502, although there are practically no differences between the older models and the updated ones. If I think correctly of course))) And about the weight, in my 2502, too, the site wrote 1250g the largest weight, but most likely this is the maximum permissible weight of baked bread.
sorento
Quote: metel_007

Yes, I will definitely unsubscribe. Well, about the bucket, there is a max. weight 1000 grams, and in the model 2501 - 1250 grams. But I don’t bake such big bread. Mostly 600-800 grams.
And that no one has this stove? Is this an updated 2500 model or am I wrong?
yes, but no reviews. This size is too big for me, but I want to try Panasonic. I had several stoves: tefal (with two buckets, I liked it very much), lg (good, but never crispy), vr (small, 500g) I now use. All the stoves have worked for 2 years, and then the oil seal and bearing fly.
sorento
Quote: Larra
but most likely this is the maximum permissible weight of baked bread.
what is the most common weight? 750g?
sorento
Quote: sorento

yes, but no reviews. This size is too big for me, but I want to try Panasonic. I had several stoves: tefal (with two buckets, I liked it very much), lg (good, but it never had a crisp and the shape is more upward, I don't like it), vr (small, for 500g) I now use. All the stoves have worked for 2 years, and then the oil seal and bearing fly.
Larra
Nataliya, well, it really depends on the number of eaters, I mostly bake at 750, eat on time and then bake something new, different, I still want to try it))) We have three eaters, enough buns for 1-2 days, it depends on goodies)))
Natalishka
I bake from 540g. flour + 100gr of "old" dough. The loaf is 930g. And the top of the head looks out a little from the bucket.
sorento
Larra, that's understandable. But I bake, basically, a 375g loaf, for me and my husband for 2 days, and when my son comes on the weekend, it is always for 750g (in another HP). So I don't know how to choose HP, since the difference in weight is large, and it is better to make the dough in a large bucket.
Larra
Nataliya, and 750g and 1000g Panasonic bakes beautifully, and I think the dough can be mastered by a kilogram and a half, so it does not have such small opportunities))) But it's still up to you to decide. I chose the stove for a very long time, tossed between Moulinex with baguettes (well, it is really too large in volume) Panasonic and Gorenie with two forms, in the end the mind won, after many days of research here on the forum, discussions of advantages and disadvantages. I do not regret my choice at all. In Sonechka it is very difficult to spoil something, you have to try))) So choose according to your taste, the main thing is that it works perfectly and pleases)))
lega
Quote: Larra
yes, and I think a kilogram and a half will master the dough

Why overload the engine? The maximum weight of ingredients in recipes from the instructions is -1kg. If you knead 1.5 kg then HP will withstand, but most likely not for long.
Larra
Galina, so it's better not to take risks and knead 1 kg, I just read somewhere here that some knead and 1.5 kg and nothing, but I prefer not to load my beauty, I still have it completely new, it's a pity ... (and indeed I am very careful with the technique, so that it works for a long time, and it doesn't cost a penny all the same), so I absolutely trust your opinion, and now I won't advise anyone to strain the stove so much
sorento
and 1kg of dough is enough
abulyaka
Hello! I am looking for reviews about the noise from the dispenser.
I choose from 3 Panasonic. (Used to be 2500, ruined the bucket)
There is a small child who sleeps very lightly. Please share your impressions of the dispenser
sazalexter
abulyakaSo can buy a bucket by 2500?
abulyaka
The cost is almost the same, I decided to take her to the dacha, I will ride with a bucket
sazalexter
abulyaka, Price: 3120rub 🔗 And what is the damage to the bucket?
Albina
Quote: sazalexter
Price: 3120rub
Add a couple of thousand more and you can buy decent HP
abulyaka
Thank you! I killed the unkillable, I scratched the bucket very hard + the scooped blade, it turns out 3100 + the scapula + 650r. delivery = new stove
sazalexter
abulyaka, You can also use the scratched one so that the dough does not stick too much.
Diana 14
Quote: Wit

It was taught here that after baking the bread must stand at least 8 hours ... Oppankii, I found it!
"Nutritionists believe that at least 8 hours should pass from the moment of baking bread to eating it ..." It's here: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=152589.0
I highly recommend to come here and be enlightened. Make sure you didn't know a lot. And thank Admin for her page.

Although ... do not gobble up a hot crispy edge, almost always beyond my strength
Thank you very much)) very interesting recipes, I’m here for an egg bread recipe (from a recipe book for a bread machine) baked bread ... but ... I put rye flour 2/3 and wheat flour 1/3 only added malt)) it turned out great) )
Diana 14
Quote: yudinel

So_snovskaya, so if I were buying a bread maker now, then only Panasonic 2501!!!
Agree! : drinks_milk: I bought 2501.)))) VERY SATISFIED))) I delight my son and myself every day)) wonderful bread and pastries too))) everything is clear already even started experimenting, although I have been baking for a month))) I chose it according to the recommendations on the site and very happy)) We bake bread mainly XL and everything works out great and M too (this is when the son leaves for the weekend))
Demon72
Tell me how the Panasonic SD-ZB2512KTS and Panasonic SD-2511WTS differ. It looks only in color, but the instructions are different
tascha
Please tell me if it is possible to bake bread in a small volume in Panasonic? For example, 500 grams? I'm interested in Panasonic SD-2501WTS.
Mams
Quote: Demon72

Tell me how the Panasonic SD-ZB2512KTS and Panasonic SD-2511WTS differ. It looks only in color, but the instructions are different

12 models have a separate yeast dispenser. At 11 he is gone. Well, the color is different. Otherwise, they are the same. If the color is not critical, then it is quite possible to do without a yeast dispenser.

Quote: tascha

Please tell me if it is possible to bake bread in a small volume in Panasonic? For example, 500 grams? I'm interested in Panasonic SD-2501WTS.

Why not? There are three sizes in the oven, for different amounts of flour: 400, 500 and 600 grams of flour. Here is the smallest bar and will be somewhere between 500-600 gr. maximum.Since bread from a bread machine is stored for a very long time (in an ordinary bag it lies for a week, in a birch bark box and even longer), then you can bake it once a week calmly
echeva
Quote: tascha

Please tell me, is it possible to bake bread in a small volume in Panasonic? For example, 500 grams? I'm interested in Panasonic SD-2501WTS.
I constantly bake bread from 400g of flour, I have a Panassonic2501
tascha
Quote: echeva
I constantly bake bread from 400g of flour, I have Panassonic2501
and the weight of the finished bread?

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