Panasonic: I want to join the ranks, but I doubt it ...

Hello everyone!
We have a young small family - me and my wife. We try to make our home comfortable, so we invest a lot of effort, time and money in arranging the kitchen - the most visited place in our apartment. Not so long ago I "fired up" the idea to buy a bread maker. Considering that "we are not rich enough to buy cheap things", and that "a cheapskate pays twice," I looked for a Panasonic SD-ZB2502 BTS bread maker in my store.
Friends also have a similar machine, they treated us to their bread, I liked it, so I also decided to "join" the delicious food.
My question is this - among my friends, bread makers are not very common. Some dissuade me: "they say, buy a toy for 10,000, play for a week, and put it away, gather dust ..."
I would like to ask experienced "automatic bakers" - how often do you use a bread maker, and in general - is the apparatus worth its money (is a bread maker needed on the farm?)
Thanks for your opinions!
Andrew.

Experienced people will tell you that a cheap bakery is no worse than an expensive one. I have a programmable one, but I bake on the 1st and 2nd programs and I also use the "dough" mode. That's actually all I need. Therefore, baguettes, jam, etc. are easier for me to make in the oven and on the gas stove.

[Andrew]

Andrew, I have a Panas 255, I use it every other day, I have not bought bread in the store for 2 years. In addition, it is very convenient to throw all the products into the HP bucket and get ready-made dough for buns / pizza, etc. in two hours.

We try to make our home comfortable, so we invest a lot of effort, time and money in arranging the kitchen - the most visited place in our apartment.

I am tormented by vague doubts that the purchase of only one bread machine will not be limited to you. Then there will be multicooker, yogurt maker and so on on the list.

[A very worthy option]

No one can decide for you whether your family needs HP. Try to analyze for yourself how you use kitchen appliances, what is most often used ... It is no secret that we all often catch fire with an idea and buy a device that at the moment of life seems to be simply necessary ... but after a while the excitement fades away and the little thing is gathering dust somewhere .. I think that almost everyone went through such purchases ... And bread makers are no exception ... ... there are people who have it, but they do not use it ... And ... most likely such people do not "hang out" on this site .. Regarding your choice - A very worthy option, but you can also save money .. buy the same Panasonic, only a different model is cheaper .. And about playing enough and putting it away ... Here are my, not the most capricious family members, now they do not want to eat store bread .. I bake a big one every other day loaf .. besides, your own bread is cheaper than the store one .. so the costs of buying HP have paid off more than once .. Join our friendly ranks and, I hope you will not be disappointed ..

, (do you need a bread maker on the farm?)
Thanks for your opinions!
Andrew.

If you spend a lot of time outside the house... then it is better not to invent HP, since everything is done automatically.
If there is an opportunity to devote time to the kitchen, then oven bread tastes better, and the dough can be made in the combine (but in HP it is more convenient)

I have 2 panasiks, I use it every day, either bread or dough for baking. I had to buy a second one as one was sometimes not enough. And our family is three people.

I have good HP, much cheaper than Panasonic. My husband gave me a birthday present a year ago. I don't even understand how they used to live without her.

Bread, of course, tastes better in the oven, but now it helps me out a lot, since we have a small child and there is practically no free time. I put the groceries and went for a walk, I am calm - there will be bread on the table. And, of course, she kneads the dough for pies, buns, etc. Without hesitation I will buy a new one if this one suddenly fails.

Thank you! Already convinced! Feel like "a shelf of automatic bakers will arrive"!
It's great that there are such enthusiastic people!

lightstorm, whether you decide to make a purchase or not is all the same to you.
We bought our first HP 17 years ago, the kids were small. Then there was still no choice for HP. And how we always rejoiced when in the morning there was a bread aroma throughout the apartment, and in the morning we ate HOT BREAD (it is like a bun and with all the dishes - SUPER.
Homemade bread is HEATING. Now we have a big family - three sons and us. I bake bread every day, sometimes every other day, if I am planning another kind of pastry.

we have hitachi a hundred years ago. At first, my grandmother actively used it for a couple of years. then abandoned. a year later we took it for ourselves, pampered for half a year. now also worth it.
but in our family they practically do not eat bread. we baked the smallest loaf possible and it was still too much

Hello everyone!
We have a young small family - me and my wife. We try to make our home comfortable, so we invest a lot of effort, time and money in arranging the kitchen - the most visited place in our apartment. Not so long ago I "fired up" the idea to buy a bread maker. Considering that "we are not rich enough to buy cheap things", and that "a cheapskate pays twice," I looked for a Panasonic SD-ZB2502 BTS bread maker in my store.
Friends also have a similar machine, they treated us to their bread, I liked it, so I also decided to "join" the delicious food.
My question is this - among my friends, bread makers are not very common. Some dissuade me: "they say, buy a toy for 10,000, play for a week, and put it away, gather dust ..."
I would like to ask experienced "automatic bakers" - how often do you use a bread maker, and in general - is the apparatus worth its money (is a bread maker needed on the farm?)
Thanks for your opinions!
Andrew.

I NEED: girl_love: I don’t like to go for bread ... And I LOVE to tinker in the kitchen
I want an egg cooker! : girl_in_dreams: New Year is coming soon! : mail1: Salads ...

[lightstorm]

lightstorm
If you saw the contamination of factory forms for baking bread, you would definitely not doubt the purchase of a bread machine.

[lightstorm]

lightstorm
If you saw the contamination of factory forms for baking bread, you would definitely not doubt the purchase of a bread machine.

OH, but in the old days, the schoolchildren took us on an excursion to the bakery ...: -I saw how flies were crawling on the dough there ...

I want to add an argument for those who doubt the benefits of a bread machine. I already have the second one, I use it all the time. Bread, dough, Easter cakes, the jam in it is excellent and without the formation of foam. This feature prompted me to buy Panasonic. It is very convenient - I threw in the berries with sugar, turned it on and after an hour and 20 minutes the jam is ready. In winter, it is very important - I cook from frozen berries.
Homemade bread is definitely better than store-bought bread. They wrote about unsanitary conditions in bakery production more than once, and I saw this horror on TV. And homemade bread can also be prepared taking into account the needs and health restrictions. You can use whole grain, without yeast, etc. - a lot of options. Shop counterparts cost a lot of money, and the taste ...

: girl_dough: Andrey! If you decide to buy a x / n, then Panasonic will not disappoint you! My first purchase was Molynex. After 2 weeks I changed to Panasonic. I have been using it for 2 years now and I am very satisfied. And on the forum you will also find many friends who will always help you in all matters. We are waiting for you and your wife, even if you do not have a x / n for now. : rose: Good luck!

The decision to buy a bread maker was spontaneous. there was an advertising campaign on Shell and there were inexpensive bread makers - Mulinexa.
At first I decided - it's cheap and healthy!
Then I began to think it was necessary - it was not necessary !? Has connected her husband.
As a result, they bought Panasonic.
We no longer buy store-bought bread. For two - I bake once every three days.
So in our family - a uniquely necessary unit

Thank you all for your feedback! We decided that we will definitely take ... Only the stock of Panasonic SD-ZB2502 BTS in Krasnoyarsk is over ...

Thank you all for your feedback! We decided that we will definitely take it ... Only the stock of Panasonic SD-ZB2502 BTS in Krasnoyarsk is over ...

When we took it was the same.
Paasonics abruptly disappeared everywhere. Then they were brought to the Media Market.
there we bought it.
The new ones seem to have a separate place for yeast.
But for some reason no one writes about this in the advertisement.
Hopefully the wait won't be long.

For those in doubt, the bread is simply awesome, besides, you can add anything you want to it, even nuts and chocolate

[Andrew]

Hello everyone!
We have a young small family - me and my wife. Not so long ago I "fired up" the idea to buy a bread maker.

Andrew, you are on fire ... And your wife? Or will you bake? If, after all, she is, then you have to decide with her whether you need a bread maker or not.
We also have a small family, but our son still does not eat bread. So it turns out that my husband and I are bread eaters. We are at work from 7 am to 6 pm, that is, we eat bread in the morning and in the evening. Therefore, a standard roll is enough for 4 days. This is a long time, bread naturally loses its taste. Sometimes there is simply not enough time. As a result, I bake bread once a week.
But HP is very helpful in other cases. The pizza according to the recipes of our girls turns out to be simply wonderful. (dough in HP, baked goods in the oven). And my son can eat a lot of pizza.
The dough for dumplings, dumplings is excellent.
But, as you know, all this is postponed wider on us, loved ones. Does your wife mind?
I am not discouraging you in any way. I have HP

Some dissuade me: "they say, buy a toy for 10,000, play for a week, and put it away, gather dust ..."
I would like to ask experienced "automatic bakers" - how often do you use a bread maker, and in general - is the apparatus worth its money (is a bread maker needed on the farm?)

My device paid back its money a long time ago, since it was quite inexpensive.I will also buy a cheap stove.

I'll put in my "five kopecks" too.

The bread maker is good, I started with her. Then I learned how to combine - kneading in cotton, baking in the oven ... then - more - sourdough bread, both in cotton and in the oven, then the Kenwood combine joined, in which I did the batch. But now - now x / n, then the store ... And tomorrow? I do not know what will happen tomorrow)))

What am I talking about? Each unit has its own time and place in life.
If it is used today, this is not a guarantee of its resignation for some time and a second return to it.

I do not regret at all that I bought both this and this and the fifth and tenth. Well, in my life it does not work to consistently use one thing

But I am very grateful to both the bread maker and the forum bread maker that I can combine and change these possibilities as I like, right up to going to the store for bread

I said all this to the fact that no one except you can decide whether to buy or not, only you)) No one will give you a guarantee that you will use it all the time ...

I can only say one thing ... I had the opportunity to compare the work of Panasonic and Orion (a cheap stove). Yes, it works well. It bakes well ... But if I take the second one, I'll take Panasonic again

My device paid back its money a long time ago, since it was quite inexpensive.I will also buy a cheap stove.

Have you tried bread with Panasonic?
he is completely different. At friends Moulinex. They played enough with him "and now he is standing. And all because to get a good result you need to" dance with tambourines "

In the 90s I had a Japanese-made bread maker, not a Panasonic, the bread in it was no worse than in my Chinese one. By the way, there was a stove with a window, dosikhpor works for my brother. There are only three programs in it: two bread and one * dough *. It was enough.
Ps. I won't even take Mulinex for free, his reputation is heavily tarnished by a white crust
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To the author of the topic. Do you want to buy a small car for a thousand? (This is me again with advertising, because I myself want one). He bakes wonderful bread, there are many people on the forum with such ovens, there is also a photo of ready-made bread. But if you have nowhere to put your money, then you can buy it at a higher price .. in other places it is sold for 1.5 thousand

And all because to get a good result you need to perform a "dance with tambourines"

To get good bread, with any stove you need to work hard and know at least the basics

To the author of the topic. Do you want to buy a small car for a thousand? (This is me again with advertising, because I myself want one). He bakes wonderful bread, there are many people on the forum with such ovens, there is also a photo of ready-made bread. But if you have nowhere to put your money, then you can buy it at a higher price .. in other places it is sold for 1.5 thousand

Thank you for your feedback, but I do not quite understand about the runabout ... Sorry. ..

a small car is a small-sized bread maker for a loaf of 450-500gr, such as this:

There are many similar models, or rather in Ukraine and Russia, there are essentially two of them, but with different labels
Why did I offer it, because there are two of you, so as not to get fat, just kidding. I want one for myself, because mine only love fresh bread and every day is different, I also like that it takes up little space.

To get good bread, with any stove you need to work hard and know at least the basics

What makes me sincerely happy with Pasha is that with him you can do everything without the basics
There was a problem once - and even then due to the fact that, asleep, instead of rye flour, I poured buckwheat () - and in that recipe it was 100%
With buckwheat - even with knowledge of the basics at 100% filling it is difficult to bake something.
You can also ride a humpbacked Zaporozhets - if you wish and know the materiel.
but you can sit on a foreign car - the same Matiz - and drive and enjoy the process and the result - without looking into the materiel.
Only if you want to portray something like that.
Again - my personal opinion

Ohh again, these comparisons of incomparable .. do not confuse God's gift and scrambled eggs The bread maker is a primitive heating device, she is still far from the car, and she does not need it at all. You do not need to obtain user rights either.

What makes me sincerely happy with Pasha is that with him you can do everything without the basics

I sincerely wish you to continue to delight you))

And to paint now what, how and why can happen not according to plan ... well, I don’t want to

[Andrew]

Andrew, you are on fire ... And your wife? Or will you bake? If, after all, she is, then you have to decide with her whether you need a bread maker or not.

Honestly, I "caught fire" ... It's just that my wife once brought fresh bread from my friends from a bread machine. We liked. It was quite a long time ago, but, as always, there is not enough money, and we decided that a bread maker is not an essential item. Moreover, we have an Electrolux oven of the latest brand ... But since we work a lot and do not devote as much time to household chores as we would like, I hope that the bread maker will become a good help in everyday life ...

[lightstorm]

lightstorm, if you like homemade bread (and I sincerely don't understand how you might not like it), then feel free to take it. There was no store bread in the house for 2 years. 5 minutes spent on bookmarking ingredients are worth what we get at the exit. At the same time, most of the time I use only automatic programs. In fact, I have worked out several recipes and am making them. When I have time and inspiration, I experiment. There are two of us too, and bread is sometimes baked once a week, sometimes a little more often. But don't be embarrassed by such breaks - homemade bread is stored just fine.

At the expense of choosing a model, I will insert my 5 kopecks - I am not discouraging, but if there is a desire to save a little, then maybe stop at the 2501 model? I mean that i7 is really cool, but if your task is Word / Excel, then i3 is above the roof, and the rest is vile show-off
Although the analogy is not complete - as the forum shows, the most sophisticated bakers use only basic functions, and then switch to using the oven, which in our case would be tantamount to returning to the x86 family

I mean that i7 is really cool, but if your task is Word / Excel, then i3 is above the roof, and the rest is vile show-off

I agree with you, but i7 is needed for work (video editing, video encoding) .. sorry for offtop!

lightstorm, I'm not hitting
I just tried to explain on my fingers the differences between the models as I see them.
Wait, we choose our girlfriend xp. And we hang between 2500 and 2501. And then I look - another baker is planned

if you need the program "Rye" take 2501, if not then 2500

I just asked this question here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=126137.new#new
If you have experience in successfully baking rye on a non-rye program, share pzh

OH, but in the old days, the schoolchildren took us on an excursion to the bakery ...: -I saw how flies were crawling on the dough there ...

And what's next?)))

And what's next?)))

and then I didn't buy bread from this bakery ... I changed my place of residence

I'm also thinking about the need for HB, although I have already ordered it))) This will be a gift for my mother (she somehow wanted to buy, but then forgotten), and since we live together, I will also participate in the process. Sometimes we eat a lot of bread - both black and white, and buns ... from the store ... for an hour I want to try living with HB ... I hope we will be friends. But we will not do delights - ordinary bread, rolls with different fillings. My father liked the idea of ​​the gift. Offered a slow cooker - swept it off!

Offered a slow cooker - swept it off!

But in vain !!! Each family has HP and cartoon !!!

But in vain !!! Each family has HP and cartoon !!!

And a kitchen of at least 20 sq. m!

My father liked the idea of ​​the gift. Offered a slow cooker - swept it off!

Not all at once. Fathers - they are such that they will talk for a long time about the fact that all sorts of kitchen things are not needed at all ... And then, already upon availability, they will claim that it was they who offered such a useful pot ...

Come on ... I have 5.5 ... Although ... 20 sq. m - this is superrr !!!

and how many kilometers are these 20 sq. m run in a day?

Not all at once. Fathers - they are such that they will talk for a long time about the fact that all sorts of kitchen things are not needed at all ... And then, already upon availability, they will claim that it was they who offered such a useful pot ...

Exactly! If my husband opposes buying a new miracle of kitchen appliances ... I tell him right away_ "And how many gadgets you have bought for your car and are not used!" ... AND I HAVE EVERYTHING IN BUSINESS ... But he did not resist for a long time about the bread maker. The BEST arguments were photos of ready-made breads from OUR FAVORITE SITE !!!!

Yes! You intrigued me! I think the purchase of the Panasonic SD-ZB2502 BTS will take place in a few days. It turns out that there are still a few of them in Krasnoyarsk. I can't wait to join the baker community. Today I studied the "kolobok rule". Here, after all, there are wisdom here ... I thought - I fell asleep, I pressed the button and "left" ... It turns out that everything is not so simple?

[gypsy]

Have you tried bread with Panasonic?
he is completely different.

Yeah. I try it regularly. At a friend's. Other. Worse. Because (she said this repeatedly) 90% of everything depends on the recipe and on the baker, and not on the stove! Agree with gypsy.

It turns out that not everything is so simple?

In fact, everything is simple with any working stove, if the recipe is checked and correctly measured (+ \ - flour moisture) ... and the yeast is good fresh.

[gypsy.]

Yeah. I try it regularly. At a friend's. Other. Worse.

I want to join the ranks agreeing with gypsy. And I have no doubt

In fact, everything is simple with any working stove, if the recipe is checked and correctly measured (+ \ - flour moisture) ... and the yeast is good fresh.

And the head is in place ...

I too ... join the ranks ...