Panasonic: I want to join the ranks, but I doubt it ...

Before that there was black Redmond. Enough. By the way, another undoubted plus of Panasonic is its noiselessness and stability during kneading. Redmond bounced around the table with a crash at night even woke me up, although we sleep on another floor. And once I jumped off the table

Strange, I have no problems with Redmond 1910, at first I stood on the cutting table, now I moved to the windowsill, does not jump and does not jump, the noise is moderate, the signal in the next room is not audible and does not even interfere with sleep. I cook everything in KhP: pies, casseroles, muffins, meat carcasses, cereals, vegetables and even soups sometimes, not to mention dough and various bread-rolls-cakes. Only jam-jams and milk porridge did not go - I cook them rarely and it's easier to cook on the stove. And yes, even in my HP I make yogurt and even cottage cheese. In general, I am satisfied, but I specially bought such a universal model, for one only bread to keep such a "fool" in a small kitchen I have no reason.
I bought through the online store for only 7 thousand, although on the corporate website they were 10-11 tons.
One inconvenience - it is dark on the windowsill and in the evening it is hard to see what is going on in the stove, but I adapted the lamp from the computer on a flexible cable, insert it into the USB connector on the TV standing next to it and voila, an excellent backlight appears over the stove.

[Crown]

Crown, I have 1902, black and metal redmond, did not jump, but the baking is bad, I specialize more in rye bread, so I had to turn on the baking for the second time for almost an hour, I'm not talking about French, not that one, not at all. So let it work like a dough mixer in the city, for pies ... And here I have a Panasik now and I can't get anything else!

Here is something incomprehensible, who has a plastic bucket? ..

yes, yes, I meant the case, I just have an association of this form of oven with a bucket, which is with a pedal (forgive me, all admirers of panasonic)
The stove is really fire, I hope we will be friends happily ever after

Yes, I had the same in front of Panasik Redmond, fear and ugly!

plus, too, under these words. when I first put the oven on the bread in Panasonic, I was already stunned how he quietly kneads !!! oh and yes, my Redmond 1909 died 16 (!!!) days after purchase. the plateau and the engine were out of order. I certainly did not expect this from this brand. Well, as they say, everything is for the best. But now I have my snow-white friend Panasiy

[Dasha 001]

I just have an association of this form of stove with a bucket, which is with a pedal (forgive me all fans of Panasonic)

I have never heard such a comparison

It's a shame, but I, even as an admirer of Panasonic, want to laugh at such a comparison
Sorry dear

Dasha 001, congratulations on your purchase !!! With Panasius!

yes, yes, I meant the body, I just have an association of this form of oven with a bucket, which is with a pedal

Ay yes Dasha, ah yes Son of a bitch well done! My brains haven’t come up with that! .. But, I must give it credit, there is something in this ... 🤔

No reverence for Panasik
There was already a version of a pig, now a bucket with a pedal.

Call me Panasika here, call me !!!!!!!!!!!! And your Redmond looks like a dry closet

Vit,

And your Redmond looks like a dry closet

Don't touch the red monda ... She's sick without you ...

I have nothing against Panasik's appearance ... yes, I'm generally beautiful, for my taste, I haven't seen HP

Didn't my words drew choy into my quote? ..

I have nothing against Panasik's appearance ...Yes, I am generally beautiful, for my taste, I have not seen HP

Yes, and multicooker does not shine with beauty, basically ... If only they baked, cooked deliciously!

did not expect such a resonance with my comparisons. But I like the apparatus more and more every day, all the more so today I watched Ren TV, or rather listened, while I was preparing dinner, a program about industrial bread (for the faint of heart) It's so good that we have such an assistant in our house. transfer, the other day, just to celebrate, I ordered 3,000 wooden grain improvers from the corresponding sites. Now I'm sure: only rye malt and gluten. No agrams, extra P, Forex and other wonderful mixtures with E-shkami

Don't touch the red monda ...

I haven’t heard such a thing yet, and it never occurred to me during the 3-year use of this company's multicooker. Now every time my gaze falls on my cartoon, my face breaks into a smile
Py. Sy. They have very decent multicooker units.

Dasha, of course, if you delve into the jungle of modern realities, then flour, HZ, which one and from what. So let's get back to subsistence farming.

then flour, HZ, what and from what.

Yeah, and the soil is NOT THAT ...

No reverence for Panasik
There was already a version of a pig, now a bucket with a pedal.

+1

The most-most-most beautiful-beautiful, beloved-lovable unit my Panasik !!!
Snow white and lovely!

And I have two beloved little white units standing next to each other: a panasik and a small cartoon redya-01, a set was right there

[Mandraik Ludmila]

Mandraik Ludmila, Luda, and I always have a white Toshiba 18 next to Panasik. Also a sweet couple.

[Ritochka]

Ritochka, yes, I generally like white appliances, the washer is white, the PMM is white, the refrigerator and freezer are white. The meat grinder, the mixer, the bdender are the same ... My black HP radish did not fit in with its black and steel ones.Although, by and large, I don't really look at the color when buying, the main thing for me is that it would work well

the main thing is that it would work well

+100

Eeeh ... I was offended to see Panasiy at me, that I compared him with a bucket with a pedal, and squeaked today when kneading a wheat bread I read somewhere (I don't remember where. Those who know, poke a link) that this is almost a variant of the norm and I will have to put up with this trample and live on. I'm right, I don't confuse anything: is this not a fatal trouble? Can this nasty squeaky violin pass on its own?

Dash, maybe the dough was thick? It happens to me occasionally ...

[marinastom]

marinastom, +1
Dasha, if the dough is steep, then there may be such sounds. We need to add liquids.
I then managed to put something like that (it wasn't even dough, dough) that HP stopped. I will not repeat such experiments again.
, Panasik!

Maybe dough. I did not leave the recipe, but added a teaspoon of gluten, forgetting to add a little water. ...: pard: I'll take it into account, I'll fix it)) Thanks for the tips



And so, my creak has not gone anywhere. even an empty bucket creaks during mixing. Only 10 days have passed since the purchase date. What to carry to change?



in general, I am upset for the most do not spoil. The second bakery and the second time some kind of crap associated with it

[Dasha 001]

Dasha 001, well, what is there with your Panasik? Hopefully the creak passed? Ali is not there?

[Dasha 001]

Dasha 001, well, what is there with your Panasik? Hopefully the creak passed? Ali is not there?

Passed through. I read the topic. I rubbed the rod of a simple pencil and with this powder lubricated the bucket at the bottom, those parts that touch the stove drive (I don't know how else to explain) and everything, the creak went away and did not return

Congratulations! Long service to your stove

[Dasha 001]

Dasha 001, You are well done!
The stove was lucky with the hostess.

Thank you girls: girl-yes: we do not spill water with her now, and we also bought an atlas motor dough rolling machine for her and now they are a wonderful duet from now on in the house not only fresh baked goods, but also dumplings and dumplings are made playfully: Panasya kneads, Atlas rolls , well, a little of my efforts and voila - an excellent result

Hello! I doubt buying a bread machine between 2512 and 2522. If you buy 2522 then tell me where you can order.

[Nata58]

Nata58, go to page 1 of the Panasonic topic, there is a comparative plate of the Panasonic HP modes, compare these two models, choose the one cat. more likely.
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=484338.0
If you have any questions, you can ask in that Temka. I bought at Mvideo.

[for yeast]

Hello! I doubt buying a bread machine between 2512 and 2522. If you buy 2522 then tell me where you can order.
Nata58, well, you racked up on 2522, sitting in the Russian Federation.
here, of course, here is a comparison plate for the lineup,
Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502, SD-2510, SD-2511, SD-2512 ... (4) # 1441
where 2522 is irresistible, has the most awesome programs, but that's just not supplied to Russia. For Europeans only. It must be ordered from abroad. You may need an adapter for our voltage if you take an American one. Pay attention to the required voltage and it is better to immediately buy a European one, there the voltage is like ours. The equipment will be considered gray and not subject to service with us, but since the Panasonic is very high quality, this is not important.

Detail: all machines with a 2 ending have a dispenser for yeast... He works on every program with a loud clap. Not everyone likes it if the machine is within earshot, and you bake at night or early in the morning. Consider this point.

Hello! I doubt buying a bread machine between 2512 and 2522. If you buy 2522 then tell me where you can order.

If they are not supplied to Russia, but you really want to, then I can advise on this site.

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I’m a kitchen. I took the combine)) the price then turned out to be one and a half times cheaper than I would have taken it from us even with payment for delivery. And this bread machine will turn out to be about 22-23 thousand.





Although I see here with us .. delivery from Germany

🔗

It turns out more expensive on ebay - Price: US $ 539.90 Approximately RUB 37 464.44

🔗

Well, for 22-23 thousand, they promise to deliver a new crustin to Russia soon. With crusts and 18 programs. True, maybe again we will be deprived of brioches and sandwiches.
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_content&task=view&id=2241

and if you try to buy from abroad, then, firstly, the request can be duplicated in the general topic on Panasonic. There our girls, who live abroad, can tell you something more profitable. Secondly, in electric grocery cutters, they generally helped to buy more profitably. It is worth going to the department of joint purchases and open Temka there with a request.

Something 23 pieces for HP seem to me a very terrible amount even for a Panasik.
There are also bourgeois Avito.

The PANASONIC SD-ZP2000 has a "Brioche" mode

The PANASONIC SD-ZP2000 has a "Brioche" mode

Yeah, I saw the same list of programs on the stove lid.

Programs
- Shape: spherical
- Number of dough preparation programs: 5
- Dough preparation programs: with additives (main, whole grain, dietary), with filling (main), pizza dough
- Number of baking programs: 18
- Recipes and programs: basic crispy, basic crunchy with additives, basic with filling, whole grain / rye bread, whole grain with additives, dietary, dietary with additives, basic with a delicate crust, basic fast, basic with additives and tender crust, basic with additives fast and tender crust, brioche
- Special programs: rye bread, jam, cake
- Gluten free baked goods: yes
- Prove dough: yes
- Automatic stirring of the dough: yes

They squeezed the Italian regime, sandwiches squeezed, but most importantly - how could they remove the FRENCH regime?
For 30 pieces in a technopark and without French? It is interesting to see the bourgeois version, I suppose they will leave the leaven there.

That is why I do not consider this option.

[Nata58]

Nata58, well, of course, from 23 pieces to 30 is somehow stressful for the nervous system
However .. what do you want to know?

Hooray ordered from Germany! I'm waiting for my beauty! I will study the intricacies of baking 🍞



Thanks to everyone who helped with the choice!

Good evening, dear owners of bread makers, tell me about the choice of a bread maker, what is it worth to orientate by functions / parameters. I am going to my wife to buy a bread maker, after a failure in a gas oven to bake bread, I think the bread baker will be better, well, the process may be easier, I plan to bake bread often. A lot of things are baked in the oven, more precisely, everything that is required is not bad at all (cakes, buns, various pastries) A ​​family of 3 people, hb a huge choice, where to start so as not to miss. I have never encountered a technique of this kind, it would be very great to offer some kind of model. After viewing this thread, I look after the Panasonic 2510,2511 models

[paha]

paha, yes in pansik the result is guaranteed. All bread recipes from the instructions are real and tasty.
Immediately buy your wife and electronic scales, as you need to weigh the flour accurately enough.
I have a model 2511, I'm happy with it, I not only bake bread, but also make dough for pies and pizzas. Now I don’t make yeast dough manually, only in panasik.
In my model there is a dispenser for additives, it is convenient when you need to add raisins, or cheese, or sausage, etc. fillers. This dispenser only works with special programs.

I have been using HP since 2008, first Mulinex, then Panasonic 2511. I like it very much.
You will decide what kind of bread you like. If white, then bake in HP without any problems. With rye, everything is not so simple. The classic one needs sourdough and special regimes. What is positioned in Panasika as rye is a bit different. But this is my opinion.
And advice. When you buy, do not immediately try to "perform feats" by baking some complex bread, start with the simplest. Fill your hand, then improve your "qualifications".
Good luck!

The scales are already there, the beginning has been laid) We buy bread in bakeries with the usual "brick", Donskoy, is this composition called rye? They say many KhP can bake well except rye, is it like a traditional loaf in composition?

For several years I have been baking such bread:

Daily white bread with live / pressed yeast in a Panasonic SD-2500 bread maker I bake this bread every day for my beloved husband. He calls it - "Simple, ordinary, white bread." The bread has a crispy crust and a rubbery crumb. It is versatile, suitable for ...Waist

Really like!
I slightly change the ingredients, depending on availability, mood, etc. ... Doesn't affect the taste.
We also buy rye. At one time I “played” with the leaven and threw it ...
Maybe someday ...

[paha]

paha, I do not know what Donskoy bread is. Not a single oven bakes pure rye bread, or rather does not knead it, since the dough is pure plasticine in consistency, no kolobok is obtained.
I bake pure rye bread, but in this case I definitely help with kneading by hand with a silicone spatula, scoop up the dough to the mixer. But most likely you do not need pure rye bread, this is most likely rye-wheat bread, but such bread is completely baked on the rye program in model 2511.
Here! I found an approximate recipe for Donskoy bread

Ingredients:
Opara (150ml water, 250g wheat flour, 4g salt, 1g fresh yeast). Mix all the ingredients and leave the dough overnight, covered with a towel.
Dough:
190 ml of warm drinking water.
150g wheat flour of the first grade.
50g rye flour.
50g whole wheat flour.
3g fresh yeast.
5g salt.

According to the recipe, it is clear that this is wheat-rye bread, that is, bread with a predominance of wheat flour, so it will turn out in panasika.
But in this bread, because of the dough, it will be necessary to divide the process into two parts. We will tell you everything if you have any questions in the topic Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502, SD-2510, SD-2511, SD-2512 ... (4) # 9342

Ok, thanks a lot for the clarification.



Hello, techline24 has the best price for HP, can you tell someone there can be no catch?
Model 2511
Everything, everywhere I learned everything - there is no cash, you have to look

[paha]

paha, Your last messages were stuck together, so no one answered. If the offer is very cheap on suspicious sites, then the divorce is 100%. Many were convinced of this.
Lyuda gave you a link to the main topic on Panasonic, write there if you have any questions.

[paha]

paha, there are a number of sites where panasiks are supposedly sold cheap, but after placing an order, they call you and begin to offer other hp, almost all of us went through this. And in no case, no prepayment !!!
In general, look at Avita, Panasiks are very reliable stoves and you can buy some used ones. in good condition at a good price and live and enjoy in the future. Many of the Panasonic people bought a second stove. I myself bought my mother a new 2511 on Avita for 5000r, there were no stirrers, I bought them on Ali and my mother has been baking bread for 3 years already, I am very pleased!

I watched where to buy, then I called, there were no sites, the sites that I see for the first time, and where now there is a price higher from 2 to 7 thousand. Even in mvideo they didn't keep track of the leftovers, okay, I'll find it, I'll tell you later in the profile topic about the impressions of HP :) On Avito, only bu, sorry, but for cooking, I don't consider this option for myself.



I came across similar stores where everything is there, come buy-come, it's over, choose another one, that's how I bought a sewing machine, as a result I took a slightly older model on Avito, but the state is "sweet"

[paha]

paha, used is in very good condition, I bought it 7 years ago, almost new, I still don’t understand how I used to live without it))) people donate, buy themselves, but it didn’t work out for them. Of course, I am not trying to persuade, but there is nothing criminal in a used bread maker, there is no need to knead fuel oil.

cooking meals

Yes, “food” is being prepared, but, firstly, what temperatures are, almost an oven, and, secondly, you won't eat from it ...
I also have two HP, both Panasiki. She took one, 2511, with a new one. The second, 255th, used on Avito for three thousand. I'm not overjoyed at both. Yes, the second had to be wiped off a little, but it did not work worse ...
Good luck!