Panasonic: I want to join the ranks, but I doubt it ...

Sasha, here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=445.1360 asks the newbie: an error NO1 popped up on the display. In the morning he toils, waiting for an answer. And I forgot - is it a power failure?

[Rarerka]

Rarerka, Already almost two weeks! Yes, she was stuck in my bread and did not want to go out, so I wikivir about her and that ...
Wit,

And finally, who told you about any harm? Surely this is not Masha. Masha is smart, chakhokhbili knows how to cook! But this is not about that

Well Duc it is widely known that you can’t use anything shitty about anything ... But Masha finally doesn’t talk to me, so it’s definitely not her.

[Wit]

WitWell Duc it is widely known that you can’t use anything shitty about anything ... And Masha finally doesn’t talk to me, so it’s definitely not her.

: lol: This is widely discussed that no way. But these traders don't know anything.

Yes, she was stuck in my bread and did not want to go out, so I wikivir about her and that ...

Sushi stick for what ah? picking in your ears?

Sushi stick for what ah? picking in your ears?

and I don’t consume them, enti sushi .. I don’t have them in me ... I then wikivirnula with a stick for barbecue .. but I managed to do it ..

Almost two weeks now!

Well, this radically changes the matter!

But hto me one of the clever people to say. and those that are sold from mulberries 🔗 fit?

Ninul, there is nowhere to put the money? You'd better buy something tasty for yourself.

Or send to those in need

Boys, what a delicious thing, Great Lent is in the yard. Still ... will the shoulder blades fit?

[Ninelle]

Ninelle, So Fasting is not on the table but in the head. Of course, they will do, only this is superfluous.

Here is a stubborn creature! Just like mine. Probably from the same batch. And scroll up and see the pictures no-no? On the same page! "Reply # 443 Today at 08:43" Yes FALL !!! With this money, you can buy a pair of sandals with a bow.

Happy girls! Boys, your girls from March 8!

Today I baked with the help of Pan Panas, carrot bread with walnuts, it's just some kind of delight!

There is no smiley kolobok fainting. In the last link for spare parts, a new bucket for Panasonic, the price = how we have a new bread maker.

[Taia]

Taia, and how much does your bread maker cost?

The range of prices is $ 140-160. It is necessary to search. This is the 2500 model, others are more expensive.

I bought 2502 for 6.5 in my opinion.

People, tell me pliz. I put rye bread on a delayed start until the morning, and wondered ... why the program is designed for 3 and a half hours ?! It is heavier in consistency, why not give it more time to proof, rise and bake? Wouldn't it have been better to put him either on the mainstream, or in general on the "French" regime?

[Ninelle]

Ninelle, I saw a new panasik at the World Food Festival in the summer. They actively promoted him there. They said this about the rye bread program: there is no dough in it, they say, rye doesn't like it, it should be left untouched after kneading. They showed a freshly baked handsome man. Probably, you still need to trust them. Tell me later what happened? What rye did you put on?

[Ninelle]

Ninelle, I saw a new panasik at the World Food Festival in the summer. They actively promoted him there. They said this about the rye bread program: there is no dough in it, they say, rye doesn't like it, it should be left untouched after kneading. They showed a freshly baked handsome man. Probably, you still need to trust them. Tell me later what happened? What rye did you put on?

I have a Panasonic 2502, my husband "demanded" rye bread, baked rye bread according to the recipe from the forum on the main program with the addition of rye flour 150 g of rye flour, and baked according to the recipe from the book attached to the bread machine, containing 50 g of rye flour.In the first case, the crumb of the bread turned out to be excellent, but the top of the bread, compared to wheat, turned out to be flatter, in the second - everything was fine on the "French" program. It all depends on what kind of "blackness" you want bread.

I wanted to answer Ninelle, but I answered you

As a result, I put it on a delayed start for 6 hours, but ... I still did not understand how, but the program got lost, and I wanted to sleep like a gopher. In the evening I glanced briefly, and there was 01, and on autopilot I did not understand what was happening ... in the morning I woke up because there was no smell of bread! I ran to the kitchen and just put it on program 07-rye, the crumb turned out to be excellent - porous and tasty, but the "roof" fell. The crust is gorgeous. Recipe from a book for a bread maker, "Bread with bran".

program 07-rye, the crumb turned out to be excellent - porous and tasty, but the "roof" fell. The crust is gorgeous. Recipe from a book for a bread maker, "Bread with bran".

Prescription in water instructions 430ml? Then this is an endlessly repeated error in the instructions. There should be 330 ml of liquid.

[lega]

lega, you are probably right, I was still surprised, apparently that's why the roof fell.

And today I baked diet bread, according to the recipe "Diet with raisins", instead of raisins I wanted to put dried bell pepper with parsley, but for some reason it remained in the dispenser ...

Today I read forums and reviews all day. Everyone writes that Panasonic is a Mercedes among HP.
Many in KhP have a problem with baking a cake, it is poorly baked because it is heavy, even in Panasonic.
I chose the Panasonic 2502 model. Now I'm sitting thinking, but what about the cupcakes? : shock:
The current husband wants to buy her for them. There is no experience with cartoons or hp.
I want to bake everything, bread, muffins, gingerbread and mannik, biswit and Easter cakes.
Advise how to decide.

[Sikorka]

Sikorka, HP is generally intended for baking bread in the first place, a cake is a secondary thing, like a biscuit, for them the oven is the very thing. Panasonic or other hp, no difference. Buying HP for the cupcakes is not serious.

I have never baked cupcakes and sour cream in the oven.

Well, that means something either with the recipe or with the oven. In a bread maker, this process is still not automated, what you put in will be baked. It doesn't matter where to pour the dough.
Here and on the multicooker there are a lot of recipes for all kinds of cupcakes, etc. with a photo, for baking, for example, in a multicooker, everything is baked perfectly, mistakes are sorted out if something does not work out. There are many very simple, win-win recipes that are always obtained by everyone.

Hello everyone!

So great is everyone discussing models 2501 and 2502. Help me choose between them.

[vizior]

vizior, Take 2501. It is in no way inferior to 2502.
The only difference is in the body and the presence of a yeast dispenser. Most of the floor is not needed.
Well, the difference in price is about 1000.
I bought a 2501 bread maker thanks to the girls from the forum. I read a lot, doubted. At first I wanted to buy 2502, but it is not available anywhere, and since I no longer had patience, I bought an option cheaper and made the right decision. Bakes great. The breads are excellent.
I was very afraid of the first bread. But everything turned out superb.

Well, the difference in price is about 1000.

If you are not in a hurry, you can monitor prices for a while. I took my 2502 1000 cheaper than it cost 2501 and 1500 cheaper than 2502 is now. It's just that one federal chain put up the only bread maker in its stores, pounded and without a spatula, at a discount, and the second federal chain, not understanding completely new and normal ovens, set the price for a ruble less than its competitors. After 2 days, the price was returned back.

: pardon: Hello everyone! I really want to buy a bread maker. With the help of this wonderful forum, I chose a model. BUT! I doubt it very much. Suddenly nothing will work out, and if it does, I will get fat! Nobody supports me in this endeavor. And there is no one to consult with. You have gathered here very enthusiastic people and I would like to hear some advice: maybe I shouldn't buy such a unit.As I read what delights the bakery evokes, I am ready to run to the store. And if you listen to the advice of those in arms, I begin to doubt very much. Please give your opinion. Maybe it will help me. Thank you in advance.

[elmi]

elmi, in my opinion, this whole forum is a general unanimous opinion (do you really think that one of the members of this wonderful community will tell you: "No, don't take it, a bread machine is a completely harmful and unnecessary unit?"
But it makes no sense to persuade you, each person decides for himself whether he wants to eat something purchased (it is not clear where, how and from what it was made) or cooked at home with his own hands.

kara, thanks for the answer. I understand that my question may not sound very good on this forum. I just want to hear support for my dreams, otherwise everyone is against it.

[elmi]

elmi, neither six years of using a bread maker, nor a four-year-old robot vacuum cleaner did not affect my weight in any way. Although no, a couple of kg. during this time she left.

Erhan, thanks for the answer.

As I read what delights the bakery evokes, I am ready to run to the store. And if you listen to the advice of those in arms, I begin to doubt very much.

Perhaps I will support your doubts .... not because I think the bread maker is something unnecessary, but because only you can decide whether you need it. I bought HP five years ago and since then I personally have not bought bread, but two of my friends have bread makers, but for some reason they still don’t bake. And they have good stoves (Panasonic), but the habit of baking bread has not appeared, they still wear it from the store ...

Yes, half of my neighbors have a bread maker, and only I bake, and it's easier for them to buy in a store. Moreover, everyone loves to talk about healthy eating, and they are too lazy to bake bread made from quality ingredients.

Lga, thank you for responding. It is very pleasant that even such an absurd question was answered. I decided to think about it during the holidays, and then decide finally. I'm kind of indecisive. True, it is comforting that there are still some desires.

[You can handle it !!!]

I decided to think about it during the holidays, and then decide finally. I'm kind of indecisive.

So are you afraid of getting fat or not being able to handle it?
Let's start with the latter: You can handle it !!! I'm very sure of that. I also forgot where the bread department is in SM. My bread tastes much better. And I've been baking without straining for the third year at night. During the day, only when you want something special. For example, bread with smoked sausage.
And on the first point of the horror stories: You don't get fat from bread !!! They get fat from what is smeared on it or what you put on it and in what quantity. If interested, then:
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Yes! Buy an electronic scale with your bread maker immediately. Very useful. You can find rubles for 300.
Good luck to you!

Vit, thank you very much for your kind words. I have the scales. I use them to weigh what I eat. I will definitely read the recommended links.

I have had a bread maker for a long time, more than 8 years, at first they baked bread every day, then less often, but I consider it a very necessary device, dough for pies, pizza, dumplings, etc. etc., just an incomparable helper.

: pardon: Hello everyone! I really want to buy a bread maker. With the help of this wonderful forum, I chose a model. BUT! I doubt it very much. Suddenly nothing will work out, and if it does, I will get fat! Nobody supports me in this endeavor. And there is no one to consult with. You have gathered here very enthusiastic people and I would like to hear some advice: maybe I shouldn't buy such a unit. As I read what delights the bakery evokes, I am ready to run to the store. And if you listen to the advice of those in arms, I begin to doubt very much. Please give your opinion. Maybe it will help me. Thank you in advance.

Do not even hesitate (if, of course, you want to). I, too, one of the family wanted, even hinted what I would like to receive as a gift, but ... I bought it myself. And now I really like this bread, but what would I bake. I recently gave a cartoon to my daughter, but I rarely use it, although I also like it. In general.everyone will be happy to eat BAKED YOU BREAD.

: rose: Happy Holidays, dear forum users. Many thanks to everyone who responded to my doubts. I ordered a stove today. I hope that I will get a good one and bake excellent bread myself. For some reason, very exciting!

For some reason, very exciting!

Well, that's okay. Everything will work out for you! Start with the first recipe, program 01. Do you have flour, yeast, sugar, salt, sunflower oil and water? The scales are there. In the meantime, you can read the instructions on how and what to bake here:
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Good luck to you! And Happy Holidays!

Now I am learning simple recipes. First I will get the stove, study the instructions, and only then I will go to the grocery store. I know myself: I always want to do everything quickly. and in order not to screw up one must restrain oneself.

I’ll write briefly ... To be honest, I don’t even remember why and how, but I wanted to have a bread machine. And as I got to this forum, then all doubts were dispelled, I just decided I WANT AND EVERYTHING !!! I was also discouraged, but why is she needed. And I firmly said that everything is needed. It's been 3 months since I got it. I completely refused store-bought bread, during these three months the weight did not increase in any way. But what a fascinating and tasty occupation. Not for a second did not regret the purchase, and those who said, why is it needed, are happy to gobble up homemade bread

I joined the ranks of fans of Panasonic bakers a month ago, gave them 2502, now I bake every day, my relatives really like the smell of bread in the morning, but I like to be able to be creative, every time I choose a new recipe or experiment with old recipes. Be sure to purchase a kitchen scale, the process requires precision in the recipe. Regarding the choice between 2501 and 2502, I would choose 2501, in my opinion the yeast dispenser is not convenient, firstly, it works with a loud click, and secondly, when you insert a bucket with all the ingredients into the bread maker and close the lid, you want to immediately turn on the bread maker , you forget that now you need to open another lid and pour in the yeast separately, I once baked a brick and now I especially watch it every time;) but the design suited me more model 2502, there really are no prints on the surface;)

I’ll tell you, girls, this is just the beginning in secret. After a while you will refuse bread from HP, well, that is, the oven will remain indispensable for you, it will knead the dough and strain it. But the oven ... the oven will want to be in the oven. For example, my noses are turned up from the bread baked in HP. And many friends a week before the visit ask for one thing - "your bread"