Panasonic: I want to join the ranks, but I doubt it ...

The whole question is why rye is not relevant. If, for some nutritional reasons, this is one thing, but if a person simply does not know how tasty one can bake according to local recipes, this is another. I would not cut off this function, for reasons of future use.
Although. as I wrote above, you can adapt to baking and rye in almost any bread maker, it will just be a little "dancing". But they, as practice shows, do not scare anyone, because the result
I can't say anything about the dispenser and its need - I don't have it, but I bake with all imaginable additives perfectly without it.

So I thought that suddenly in six months I would want rye)

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Even so?))) I now have to add it manually after the signal, it doesn't bother me. But the opening ahead of time, and even more so a clump of raisins stuck together, obviously won't please me. Thanks for warning:)
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And I'll put in my five cents, but it's convenient for me with a dispenser (because I have hp even without it), you don't have to wait for it to beep if you are going to leave. There has never been a case that it opened ahead of time or stuck together (and in order not to stick together, I dry my raisins) And if you need to add other products, the book has a reservation on how best to do it.

The difference between 2501 and 2502 is $ 100. Is it just for stainless steel? (although it suits me very well for the kitchen). Or do I also get something for this money, like a magic gnome who will wash this stainless steel? Or some other more mundane function?

The stainless steel on this HP does not get dirty, there are almost no stains. Here is a stainless steel refrigerator - I'm tired of rubbing.

The difference between 2501 and 2502 is $ 100. Is it just for stainless steel? (although it suits me very well for the kitchen). Or do I also get something for this money, like a magic gnome who will wash this stainless steel? Or some other more mundane function?

They are the same in their functions, the only difference is for stainless steel

the difference for a stainless steel and a yeast dispenser, without which 99.9% of bakers do.

The stainless steel on this HP does not get dirty, there are almost no stains. Here is a stainless steel refrigerator - I'm tired of rubbing.

Not in the subject (exactly), try a microfiber cloth

The stainless steel on this HP does not get dirty, there are almost no stains. Here is a stainless steel refrigerator - I'm tired of rubbing.

and I have a refrigerator and oven and stainless steel dishwasher. I also have a 3 year old daughter. I need a gnome, not xp

Not in the subject (exactly), try a microfiber cloth

I've even tried it as a housekeeper) for 2 days enough)))

I'm probably getting old, but I feel sorry for $ 100 for beauty. Moreover, I hide all the relatively small equipment in the closet. Thank you girls for your help. I'll take 2501. And I'll probably take on rye bread, otherwise what is it like for me as not for people)))

I've even tried it as a housekeeper) for 2 days enough)))

As psychologists say, if you cannot change the situation, change your attitude towards it. Consider the refrigerator always clean.
And rye from a bread machine will be delicious, tasty))))

Good day!
I choose a bread maker, following numerous advice, I settled on Panasonic, the choice between the SD-257 and SD-2501WTS models. Tell me, is there a fundamental difference in them? Which one is better to buy? The main wishes are to bake rye bread and have a dispenser.
Thanks to all!

[Love]

Love, Rye mode and dispenser are available in both models. The 2501 has a larger dispenser.

If you have a choice between these two models, then there is no choice. Model 257 is discontinued.You can buy only accidentally leftover copies.

[Rina]

Model 257 is discontinued.

Rina, for what?

[Love]

Love, Rye mode and dispenser are available in both models. The 2501 has a larger dispenser.

If you have a choice between these two models, then there is no choice. Model 257 is discontinued. You can buy only accidentally leftover copies.

Maybe you can recommend some other model? Maybe quieter, or are there some other nuances in the result itself, what kind of bread is obtained, etc., based on experience? I will be very grateful, because I am about to buy, but until recently I doubt the correctness of my choice.

[Lubov10]

Lubov10, our Rina, dear moderator, baker and kind person, gave you an exhaustive answer. But since you write "until the last moment I doubt the correctness of the choice", maybe you should work hard yourself, read reviews, see photo reports of ready-made breads, study the sufferings and successes of bakers-owners of various brands and models, and only then will you be ready to make a decision? The choice must be made only by you.

1. Panasonic - in principle, one of the quietest stoves. Even being in the kitchen, I don't always hear whether the kneading has begun or not (for example, if a dishwasher is working nearby).
2. in Panasonic a very stable good result.
3. From a technical point of view - Panasonic is one of the most reliable stoves, if not the most reliable (at least in our market). The number of breakdowns is minimal, the buckets do not leak, the agitators do not wedge.
4. Bread bread can differ significantly from the store bread, especially the modern one. And for some, the bakery is the most delicious. To get "the same taste from childhood", many of us begin experiments, study the experience of other bakers (the forum has a huge amount of information, exchange of experience, good recipes)
5.What else? Let me once again be called a hidden advertising agent from Panasonic (in this section, almost all of them), but Panasonic is the best choice. I now bake in a German bread machine, but I'm waiting for my beloved Panasonic to return home.

1. Panasonic - in principle, one of the quietest stoves. Even being in the kitchen, I don't always hear whether the kneading has begun or not (for example, if a dishwasher is working nearby).
2. in Panasonic a very stable good result.
3. From a technical point of view - Panasonic is one of the most reliable stoves, if not the most reliable (at least in our market). The number of breakdowns is minimal, the buckets do not leak, the agitators do not wedge.
4. Bread bread can differ significantly from the store bread, especially the modern one. And for some, the bakery is the most delicious. To get "the same taste from childhood", many of us begin experiments, study the experience of other bakers (the forum has a huge amount of information, exchange of experience, good recipes)
5.What else? Let me once again be called a hidden advertising agent from Panasonic (in this section, almost all of them), but Panasonic is the best choice. I now bake in a German bread machine, but I'm waiting for my beloved Panasonic to return home.

Thank you so much!

Hello to this forum!

I bought a Panasonic SD 2501 Bread Maker and a friend took a Kenwood BM 450 Bread Maker

Panasonic will be quieter!

my friends and I are very happy with the purchases and do not regret them a bit!

The only question that arises is that somehow they did not reach this before and for so long did not know about such an irreplaceable and necessary device !!!!!

It is a pity that for so many years they were in oblivion and ate not real bread!

Good luck to everyone with your choice!

No one will ever regret that they get home such a wonderful thing as a bread machine !!!

Hello to this forum!

I bought a Panasonic SD 2501 Bread Maker and a friend took a Kenwood BM 450 Bread Maker

Panasonic will be quieter!

my friends and I are very happy with the purchases and do not regret them a bit!

The only question that arises is that somehow they did not reach this before and for so long did not know about such an irreplaceable and necessary device !!!!!

It is a pity that for so many years they were in oblivion and ate not real bread!

Good luck to everyone with your choice!

No one will ever regret that they get home such a wonderful thing as a bread machine !!!

I congratulate Edik on joining the ranks of bakers of Yummy bread for you and so that HP will only make you happy !!!!!

tell me, is there a fundamental difference between the Panasonic SD-ZB2502 and SD-2501WTS in addition to the appearance and the difference in price?

The “fundamental difference” is the presence of a yeast dispenser and the “stainless steel” design of the 2502. 99.9% of bakers can do without such a dispenser.

The rest of the ovens 2501 and 2502 are identical.

Hello everyone! I, too, decided to finally order myself a panasonik 2502 bread maker with a dispenser

Right choice! Clever girl! we have here the biggest gang on the forum, it is panikosovody!

Hello everyone! I, too, decided to finally order myself a panasonik 2502 bread maker with a dispenser

It remains to buy a treadmill to fight future calories!

It remains to buy a treadmill to fight future calories!

Let's hope you don't need her

Right choice! Clever girl! we have here the biggest gang on the forum, it is panikosovody!

Yes, I already understood that on Tuesday they will bring it, and then I will definitely be in your ranks

The “fundamental difference” is the presence of a yeast dispenser and the “stainless steel” design of the 2502. 99.9% of bakers can do without such a dispenser.

The rest of the ovens 2501 and 2502 are identical.

as in that cartoon about a little Thumbelina: "so the EDC thought about the mole and all the same decided to get married!" Having picked the forum, the choice fell on 2500! Beautiful, of course, 2502, but the apartments in our house were designed by a terribly extraordinary tovarisch and my kitchen grones with the neighbors' bedroom, and "shooting" at peacefully sleeping people at night from a despenser seems completely inhuman!

The smell of freshly baked bread, which wakes up early, is inhuman in the morning. But the sound of the yeast dispenser very quickly you stop noticing, or rather, you don't hear it at all, although it bakes my HP at night. A far-fetched problem with the sound, but if it is an excuse and an agreement of oneself, then it will pull on an argument not to spend extra money.

The smell of freshly baked bread, which wakes up early, is inhuman in the morning. But the sound of the yeast dispenser very quickly you stop noticing, or rather, you don't hear it at all, although it bakes my HP at night. A far-fetched problem with the sound, but if it is an excuse and an agreement of oneself, then it will pull on an argument not to spend extra money.

so I will feel like a sadduga))) quietly, peacefully and salivating, I will wake up experimental neighbors

Yeah, it will. And I predict you in the near future, when you will completely spoil your family and they will become great tasters, at times and critics. And they will distinguish bread with yeast from bread with leaven. And it will be very soon ..

Yeah, it will. And I predict you in the near future, when you will completely spoil your family and they will become great tasters, at times and critics. And they will distinguish bread with yeast from bread with leaven. And it will be very soon ..

my husband had read and as a child now rested with this dispenser! if earlier they fought between 01 and 02, now between 01 and 00.
Explain that rye can also be kneaded for a dead number at 00. And most importantly, everything was introduced into the house by him (grills, cartoon, mixer, blender, microwave) and suddenly opinions diverged from HP. And I already agree to 01, if only it was bought already, but again, not Thank God - I read all the comparative articles on the forum and mosque between 01 and 00.
It looks like you have to live your whole life like this without a dog ... that is, without a stove

I have two stoves. with and without dispenser. And what do you think I do not use it, although I thought it was necessary. Because I put more additives than it can fit. The Rye program did not suit me. I paid only a thousand more, and I use the same functions as in the stove without a dispenser. You decide.

So let him decide. Let the head take upon himself this responsibility.Any model of Panasik is good.

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The "fundamental difference" is the presence of a yeast dispenser and the "stainless steel" design of the 2502. 99.9% of bakers can do without such a dispenser.

The rest of the ovens 2501 and 2502 are identical.

as in that cartoon about a little Thumbelina: "so the EDC thought about the mole and all the same decided to get married!" Having picked the forum, the choice fell on 2500! Beautiful, of course, 2502, but the apartments in our house were designed by a terribly extraordinary tovarisch and my kitchen grones with the neighbors' bedroom, and "shooting" at peacefully sleeping people at night from a despenser seems completely inhuman!

Olvina is your kitchen and the neighbors' bedroom, but in my life we ​​had a toilet, and the neighbors had a bedroom. And if you want with a dispenser, take it. Of course, you can do without it, but you can feel comfortable with it.

I have two stoves. with and without dispenser. And what do you think I do not use it, although I thought it was necessary. Because I put more additives than it can fit. The Rye program did not suit me. I paid only a thousand more, and I use the same functions as in a stove without a dispenser. You decide.

Thank you! I read your opinion, I became pogusnel. It’s about the fact that I’ll get along with any technique. Apparently I saw that men bake a lot and pride was combed

So let him decide. Let the head take upon himself this responsibility. Any model of Panasik is good.

Yes, I already agree to 01 (although I don't see much happiness in the extra window at the stove), my husband will not leave his metanias in any way - he already likes 00, but wants to comprehend all the subtleties. I say: "you won't marry her in the end"

Olvina is your kitchen and the neighbors' bedroom, but in my life we ​​had a toilet, and the neighbors had a bedroom. And if you want with a dispenser, take it. Of course, you can do without it, but you can feel comfortable with it.

We rented an apartment there and people moved in, left a pregnant cat as a "legacy". Now the repair, toxicity - the foreman and even with hp pereklinilo, would have chosen at last! And the neighbors are new, also landlords, but seem to be quiet (we are already laughing that some terrarists are hiding), I would not want to heat up the relationship because of nonsense, otherwise they will go and throw a pregnant crocodile.

Bought 2501, white bread turned out super, rye too !!! Do not mind the money spent !!! The main thing is to work longer !!! We read a lot, looked for, chose, then they spat on everything and bought this miracle. PANASONIK-leader !!! Who doubts, take it!

Congratulations on the stove! Welcome to our big friendly family of bakers!

Thank you!!!

Bought 2501, white bread turned out super, rye too !!! Do not mind the money spent !!! The main thing is to work longer !!! We read a lot, looked for, chose, then they spat on everything and bought this miracle. PANASONIK-leader !!! Who doubts, take it!

Can you please tell me if it is possible to save your program in Panasonic SD-2501W?

No you can not. I know that in some others it is possible, but in Panasonic it is not.

Hello! I'm a novice baker) I'm planning to buy a Panasonic cotton, though I haven't decided on the model yet. In this regard, a question for the more experienced: if I'm going to bake bread exclusively with sourdough (without using TF yeast), which model is the best to buy? Is it worth spending money on the latest versions (2501, 2502), which, as I understand it, are more designed for yeast baking (due to the presence of a compartment for yeast and all kinds of programs for baking with yeast) and are much more expensive than previous versions? Or is it possible to cook with the same success on earlier models of Panasonic? I would be grateful for advice

Panasonic 2500.

All HP are designed only for yeast baked goods, the rest is from the evil one ..

I would recommend either 2501 or 2502.
They are not much more expensive than other HPs (from 6000 to 8000)
They are just more reliable and predictable results.
In other HP the lottery.
Lucky - the oven will be good - no luck - abandon this business.
I am in Panasonic 257 - an analogue of 2501 and 2502 - now I bake on "live" yeast and an excellent result.
They also bake with sourdoughs (I have not "grown up" yet - this is already a higher class)
But everything is possible and everything is available.
The main thing at the first stage is to make the right choice.

I would recommend either 2501 or 2502.
They are not much more expensive than other HPs (from 6000 to 8000)
They are just more reliable and predictable results.
In other HP the lottery.
Lucky - the oven will be good - no luck - abandon this business.
I am in Panasonic 257 - an analogue of 2501 and 2502 - now I bake on "live" yeast and an excellent result.
They also bake with sourdoughs (I have not "grown up" yet - this is already a higher class)
But everything is possible and everything is available.
The main thing at the first stage is to make the right choice.

Thank you very much for your response, so I doubt it ... Since I decided to cook only with sourdough, it's probably worth improving the results in the oven without HP for now, and only then, after filling my hand, take HP calmly ..

And what kind of Panasonic 257? How does it differ from the original and what is the analogy?

Thank you very much for your response, so I doubt it ... Since I decided to cook only with sourdough, it's probably worth improving the results in the oven without HP for now, and only then, after filling my hand, take HP calmly ..

And what kind of Panasonic 257? How does it differ from the original and what is the analogy?

257 is the original. Just the previous modification.
Slightly different in appearance. The 2502 has a yeast dispenser. But even in it you can do with any yeast.
It's easier to start the oven with HP. Understand what a "kolobok" is
What it should be, First, at the SAF moment, we have "live" compressed yeast.
Then the leaven.
The site has a starter club. The most varied starter cultures.
If you "fill your hand" in the oven - why do you need -HP ???
KP's task is to get quality bread with a minimum of knowledge, skills and human participation.
This is her beauty !!!!!!

Thank you!

Thank you very much for your response, so I doubt it ... Since I decided to cook only with sourdough, it's probably worth improving the results in the oven without HP for now, and only then, after filling my hand, take HP calmly ..

And what kind of Panasonic 257? How does it differ from the original and what is the analogy?

But KhP is not only baking bread, it is also kneading dough, and the oven will knead better than hands, and sourdough bread can be baked in the KhP. But how much time will be saved.