Furniture for kitchen

Well, the issue with the wing is still open.

I can express my opinion.
I always thought it was more convenient with the wing, because I had it (stainless steel sink). Of the minuses: limescale, from flowing down from dishes, water, some kind of stains. True, this was 10 years ago.
We moved to an apartment, the kitchen remained from the previous owners, a sink without a wing. Since I don’t like to dry on a towel, and even more so to wipe the dishes, I just dried it on the table. Conclusion - puddles of water.
The mother-in-law, apparently looking at all this, presented a rug for drying dishes from a fixed price list, cheap, not large. I quickly got used to it, it became small for me and I decided to buy a bigger rug and even in the color of the table top. Water is absorbed into the rug, the rug dries quickly, even on the table, while there is no dishes on it.
You have a wonderful little snack just to the left of the sink.
PS: I have no PMM, there are three people in the family.

Tanya, what kind of rug is this?
In the corner to the left, the girls advised me to put the technique that is always used. Kettle type, thermopot, etc.

[Lisichkalal]

Lisichkalal, here on such a rug I forked out

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firm Smart, they used to be called the White Cat, but I won't lie - I don't know. I read the reviews and decided to try it. Maybe there are other companies or in large supermarkets, but they are all far from me, so I order everything through the Internet.

[Lisichkalal]

Lisichkalal, in any case, you yourself must weigh everything and imagine how it will be convenient for you to use.
For me, for example, the place to the left of the sink is not suitable for equipment in any way, it is better to give this piece for temporary dishes after washing, remove the baking sheet from the oven, etc., since there is only 60 cm limited by the cabinet and sink (which means and water: spray, etc.), but the remaining 1.5 m are already only equipment (temporary and permanent)

Sveta, is your left wall empty? or is it not a wall

I had a sink with a wing, now it is a conventional inset sink without a wing. It's more convenient for me without a wing (I lived without a PMM, now there is a PMM). It occupied a place and always did not look important (ordinary stainless steel), stains, drops, etc. Now an ordinary countertop, if necessary, I put wet dishes on it, an absorbent mat, a beautiful rag, if necessary, but usually not necessary ... I immediately put the dishes in their places. If I sprinkled it next to it, poured it, then immediately wipe it off. I have the cheapest countertop, ordinary, plastic, stained pattern. Even if there are spots, dried drops, they are not visible. But I would not refuse an additional bowl. While the PMM washes, the dishes are collected, they need to be put somewhere, accumulates around the sink (not nice, forced), or in the sink itself (not convenient). But I have a special case, I am always at home, I practically do not leave the house, I eat at home, and even in glasses (I eat 5-6-7 times a day) and I like to put everything on plates, salad bowls, even if I'm not alone at all put a lot of food. Therefore, the dishes accumulate a little and during the day.

I have a decent distance from the top drawers to the ceiling. You can safely hang taller cabinets. Almost or completely up to the ceiling. Should you do this?

I’m just FOR the ceiling, I don’t understand why leave so much empty space, and then everyone makes him, at best, statuettes. And so I hide glasses there, which I rarely use, all kinds of waffle irons, devices that are needed from time to time.

As for the sink, I was greedy and bought a huge one with a wing and a second bowl. The second bowl for the chopper, then I realized that I was cleaning in the main one. For some reason, nothing really dries on my wing. In short, now I would only take one cup.

Girls, first of all, THANKS TO ALL HUGE !!!!!
Without you, I would not have done anything with my kitchen at all, but here, well, there are so many ideas, tips, and everything!
Thank you for your participation, help!
What a wonderful forum!

[Lisichkalal]

Lisichkalal, here on such a rug I forked out

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firm Smart, they used to be called the White Cat, but I won't lie - I don't know. I read the reviews and decided to try it. Maybe there are other companies or in large supermarkets, but they are all far from me, so I order everything through the Internet.

Tatiana, thanks for the idea! I'll see if we have such rugs. If I find it, I will definitely buy it.

[Lisichkalal]

Lisichkalal, in any case, you yourself must weigh everything and imagine how it will be convenient for you to use.
For me, for example, the place to the left of the sink is not suitable for equipment in any way, it is better to give this piece for temporary dishes after washing, remove the baking sheet from the oven, etc., since there is only 60 cm limited by the cabinet and sink (which means and water: spray, etc.), but the remaining 1.5 m are already only equipment (temporary and permanent)

It's hard to weigh when this is the first relatively normal kitchen in life)))
Do you put the baking sheet directly on the countertop? I will have a countertop that I can't put hot on.

I decided to put my project on display. I, like in life, waited three years ... and still in the process. But we are already at the home stretch. Three years ago we were building a kitchen, but such prices were announced to us, that I decided that I was in no hurry, I would do as I want, but for a long time and cheaper. Fortunately, my husband's friend, an experienced furniture maker, began to help us.

We separately ordered chipboard according to the project, then the facades, then the countertop. now it remains to buy 6 sets of retractable systems, and the main part will be ready ...

In the process, ordering a cabinet above the refrigerator, and you need to redo a couple of facades.

Since I read Temka regularly, I decided to post pictures before and after ...



I am quietly waiting for the finishing touches, but not yet before them. With this crisis, you think to buy boots for a child or two blooms ...

Girls, sorry for the quality of the drawing, as I could, there is no opportunity to master the programs with 2 small children.
I hope the picture is clear)) as a first grader ((

Sveta, is your left wall empty? or is it not a wall

A wall that I think can tear down and widen the doorway. The kitchen is small, if you make furniture there, then, it seems to me, it won't turn around at all.

Only there is no door, just an opening.

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the site on car washes is also interesting

A wall that I think can tear down and widen the doorway. The kitchen is small, if you make furniture there, then, it seems to me, it won't turn around at all.

Why don't you want a corner? At the entrance to the left, put a refrigerator and lead a corner from it, and where the refrigerator is, put a small corner for eating. Like that, but start with the refrigerator

Is the battery not portable? Can make a coil, as in bathrooms, you can drive it into a corner

Why don't you want a corner? At the entrance to the left, put a refrigerator and lead a corner from it, and where the refrigerator is, put a small corner for eating. Like that, but start with the refrigerator

Galya, where to put a rack with a micro and a mini oven?
At first I thought about the corner room, and then I decided that the passage and the kitchen are so small, so you will come in and the fridge is on the wall for you. Very narrow. ()

Galya, where to put a rack with a micro and a mini oven?

Next to the refrigerator, and the refrigerator can be inserted into a pencil case and still closed shelves at the top

Is the battery not portable? Can make a coil, as in bathrooms, you can drive it into a corner

I don't know, maybe it is transferred, but there are no masters (
We have been living here for 5 years, this is how they made our repairs, now no one wants to remodel.
Well, the main thing is that the budget is limited (
Se la vi)

Sveta, maybe then I can dig a little and do what I want, and not what I can now I also need a new kitchen, I sit and choose, I make bookmarks, I have a lot of thoughts, but the budget is still limited, I will wait a little

Next to the refrigerator, and the refrigerator can be inserted into a pencil case and still closed shelves at the top

The removal of the brain is what the brain is not trained in the kitchen. Tomorrow I'll try to twist in the program.
Thank you!

[ellanna]

ellanna,
Global changes are visible! But from the second photo I don't understand (because of the lighting) what is what. Well done, you and your husband and a kitchen master. Slowly but surely they were moving towards their intended goal.

The removal of the brain is what the brain is not trained in the kitchen. Tomorrow I'll try to twist in the program.
Thank you!

I want the kitchen to be functional, even if it is small

Galya, the fact is that at first there were plans to finish building a large kitchen. Therefore, they bought a minimum and cheap things here for the first time. I don't even have cupboards now.
We made a project for a new kitchen, and the city hall hacked to death. I don’t remember for what reasons. Hands dropped, children were born, husband is always at work ...
As a result, without waiting for a normal large kitchen that I had already planned, I said, we do it where it is, that I can’t do it anymore.
I started looking at the cheapest headsets, if only with cabinets, and then decided to make something more decent.
So it started.
At the same time, I still hope for the completion of a new large kitchen))
Something like that ))

Hopefully it is necessary, but this one should be done conveniently

Svetochka, maybe this will push

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[Katya1234]

Katya1234, thanks, apparently the mirrored refrigerator does not allow to consider.






Three years ago, I also sat here with the girls and considered what option to come up with. I also have a distance to the window not 60 cm. And initially there was a slightly different option. On page 70 of this forum we discussed. I then decided that I would not rush and used the old kitchen, but set it up as planned, an island. I put an old refrigerator near the door, checking whether it would be convenient for everyone to walk. Well, and so on and so on. Now I understand that for us this is a mega-convenient kitchen. Although not a single furniture designer supported me.
And it's convenient for me. At my place of work, I do not get tired at all, everything is near, I can reach everything with my hand. And there is a zone where my family rest next to them.

Of course, I wanted a stone countertop and an internal sink. But then I would have to wait another 3 years. I had to come to terms with the chipboard. And I removed the stove from the work surface altogether, as a result.
Lisichkalal, I would make a working area from door to window. Ka in the last photoCirre.

Do you put the baking sheet directly on the countertop?

Yes, right on the countertop. I don't have it there for a long time: put it away, put it down, so that everything is fine.

and then I decided that the passage and the kitchen are so small, so you will also come in and the refrigerator with a wall facing you

Verb correctly)))

[Lisichkalal]

Lisichkalal, so I sketched it to your taste




There is a stove under the hood.

And in the racks - you want an oven and a microwave.

It turned out well, but where is the dining table and chairs? Maybe a bar counter somewhere?

Is a sink comfortable without a wing?

I do not argue that the wing is more comfortable. But a place, a place .... (((I had to cram a rather large amount of equipment into this kitchen space. The total number of flat surfaces (I recently calculated) is about 6 meters with a tail and I sorely lack them if I actively cook.

Where to dry the dishes? Or plastic containers or whatever I wash with my hands.

And to the left on the railing there is a convenient and extremely spacious dryer with a tray. It is shifted right up to the sink, so when I put the washed there, I do not drip by. Only very deep pots do not fit in there, and a decent amount of plates, tea cups, bowls (even three liters) and forks-spoons fit in there.) I put the washed fruits there, then transfer them to the fruit basket, which is visible on the right.

This faucet is very, very inconvenient, but ancient. It struck me seven years ago, then she scolded herself - the sink is small and its edge is narrow, when turned off, water drips from the hand and splashes outside the sink. Now the mixer with a lever inside the sink, so you have to wipe the countertop less often.

I don't even know if my model has the ability to outweigh the door.

If the refrigerator is no longer new, then better not. Better than others, Bosch (Siemens) allows the door to outweigh, but I would not dare to do it with him after a while - the rubber bands have long been adapted to the usual location and will leak air. Freezing of ice in the freezer and overheating of the top compartment can be fatal. Of course, you can try, but you need to be able to roll back this case. ((

Girls, sorry for the quality of the drawing, as I could, there is no opportunity to master the programs with 2 small children.
I hope the picture is clear)) as a first grader ((

with such dimensions and the absence of a window, your option is a linear kitchen, in one line, with high top cabinets, if possible
and where the window would probably not hang anything at all, that is, the top line would either not be up to the end, or two short cabinets at the end
I would even give up the column and build everything down to have more space

I also thought about drying containers, but you don't use drying in a cupboard?
why are you drying out on the table? I take it out of the PMM and into the drying rack on the wire rack, then into the closet
Or do you have so many of them that they don't fit in the dryer?
I updated the containers, bought all the same, so they stand in a slender column in the closet, they occupy a minimum of space in each other, they are the same in shape, but different in depth, I have 3 different volumes
I gave all the different colors to my mom, she needs it)))))

if you put a refrigerator near the wall at the entrance, it will be horrible, I have a 3 * 3 kitchen, approximately, and we had such an arrangement, while the refrigerator was not high, but the feeling was as if the kitchen was 2 * 2, very cramped, uncomfortable, like you sit in a box with cabinets, wherever you look, there is a closet everywhere

Svetochka, maybe this will push

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Galya, thanks! After looking at some photos, you understand that my tiny kitchen is not so tiny, it can be worse)))
The kitchen, besides being small, is also very dark. We saw the "window" ourselves))
The doorway is also very small.
If you put the refrigerator by the door, then you will kind of walk along a narrow dark corridor before getting to the kitchen.
My neighbor's nickname was so cold, it made room for a corner, so I remember, I didn't like it at all.
And as they rearranged, it became freer, although part of the surface slave was lost.

[Lisichkalal]

Lisichkalal, so I sketched it to your taste




There is a stove under the hood.

And in the racks - you want an oven and a microwave.

In principle, I liked it. Especially the part by the window) I liked the idea with this form of hood at the window.
And what is the difference between such a hood and a conventional, classic? Only in form and design? And I can't imagine how to install it, it looks beautiful and the window does not close, but where to put the pipe, wires, etc.? how to close all this?
Here is a rack by the door, the same story as with the refrigerator there.
And most importantly, what to do with the dining area? It is necessary to fit a table and 4 between the battery and the refrigerator! chair.
The bar counter won't suit us, I'm afraid.
The baby is 9 months old, the princess is 5 years old and my husband and I.

with such dimensions and the absence of a window, your option is a linear kitchen, in one line, with high top cabinets, if possible
and where the window would probably not hang anything at all, that is, the top line would either not be up to the end, or two short cabinets at the end
I would even give up the column and build everything down to have more space

I also thought about drying containers, but you don't use drying in a cupboard?
why are you drying out on the table? I take it out of the PMM and into the drying rack on the wire rack, then into the closet
Or do you have so many of them that they don't fit in the dryer?
I updated the containers, bought all the same, so they stand in a slender column in the closet, they occupy a minimum of space in each other, they are the same in shape, but different in depth, I have 3 different volumes
I gave all the different colors to my mom, she needs it)))))

if you put a refrigerator near the wall at the entrance, it will be horrible, I have a 3 * 3 kitchen, approximately, and we had such an arrangement, while the refrigerator was not high, but the feeling was as if the kitchen was 2 * 2, very cramped, uncomfortable, like you sit in a box with cabinets, wherever you look, there is a closet everywhere

Tanya, that's what I drew. Only at the window, instead of this upper cabinet, you can install a hood, as in the ellanna model.

It is difficult to refuse the rack. The mini oven is very convenient at the level of the countertop when it is standing, and the micra is also convenient above it. Under the oven I think I can make a pull-out table, I sent a picture already.
Duc here with a dryer, I don't have it, because there are no upper cabinets AT ALL.
If you do drying, then in what size cabinet? 60, 80, 120? How is it more convenient?
My containers are also basically the same, but there are a lot of them)))

Gadya, thanks!

no offense, girls. Thanks for the smile! Immediately I remembered Gadya Petrovich Khrenova! Already the mood has risen!

no offense, girls. Thanks for the smile! Immediately I remembered Gadya Petrovich Khrenova! Already the mood has risen!

Oh my goodness !!!!! Galya, forgive me, for God's sake. I'm running to fix it !!!!!

Sveta, if you decide to do as you have in the drawing, the oven is close to the wall, then it is imperative to put tiles or any other on this wall with an indent from the oven towards the door by at least 60 cm (I don’t know if I explained it clearly) easily washable material.

I have exactly the same oven, next to the wall I originally pasted wallpaper. A couple of months later, I called the master, who hollowed out the wall in this place along the height of the upper edge of the oven in order to lay the tiles (with fully installed furniture, it was still fun), because the wallpaper looked completely obscene. Everything that was baked inside on a baking sheet ( meat, vegetables) when trying to remove from the oven mercilessly splashed, no matter how carefully I tried to do it.

And about convenience, when designing the kitchen, they told me that the oven and microwave end-to-end to the wall are very inconvenient. But in practice, I don't feel any inconvenience

I'll come home, take a picture of how it looks now, and aesthetically pleasing and easy to wash

[Lisichkalal]

Lisichkalal, I like everything in your layout, but the refrigerator will be a separate huge cabinet. I just want to associate it with the main cabinets, at least with a mini table top. Alternatively, near the entrance on the left, you can make a 25 cm shelf under glass from floor to ceiling. And store the dishes there. Like they do in the dining room. Only the closet should be very narrow.
I store dishes in the lower drawers. Firstly, we always lacked the upper ones, and secondly, I am small in stature, it is inconvenient to put in the closet upstairs.

And if you put the refrigerator in place of the rack, then the kitchen goes to the window, then turns and goes to the wall.
There is room for a table and chairs.
Only somewhere else you need to put the micra and the oven. You can put a rack where the refrigerator is now.

I just want to associate it with the main cabinets, at least with a mini table top.

Agree. It's just that one wall, completely occupied by the headset, looks a little unfinished, or something .. I also want to put at least something from the general theme under a window or just along a perpendicular wall. What table, counter or cabinet with a show off.

[Lisichkalal]

Lisichkalal, in my opinion, the ellanna version is the most convenient, only the rack does not need to be made so bulky. And it's better, IMHO, to swap the column with the oven and the refrigerator in this figure, since we use the refrigerator more often, and it will be possible to open it calmly when everyone is sitting at the table.

Sveta, and you enter the kitchen from the corridor or there is a room. Is it just possible to put a large table there for the whole family, and make it in the kitchen for 1-2 people, not all the time at home.

And I can't imagine how to install it, it looks beautiful and the window does not close, but where to put the pipe, wires, etc.? how to close all this?

I have a similar hood, very comfortable

I have a similar hood, very comfortable

And what was lifted so high?) ​​Inclined ones usually hang very low in order to catch better.

[Bijou]

Bijou, catches normally. and below it is not necessary, just the permissible distance for gas stoves