Furniture for kitchen

and collect by yourself.

Are they kidding? Who collects and hangs it himself?

Why were you joking? For example, IKEA furniture is all the same - you assemble and assemble it yourself.

[Olga VB]

Olga VB Olya, but this is a mockery, though it may be that furniture is made differently now, I don’t know. I remember how they put it all up and hung it up

[Bijou]

Flax, and Flax ..... can we cook it? Can you go to furniture makers? there will be so many people in the subject, you will travel all over the country

So I suspect that Bijou it's a man. She answers so reasonably, on the issues of electricity, plumbing, fittings, furniture, any man will shut up in his belt. Somehow in the topic of dishwashers, she kept the attack of two men. They wanted to do it this way and that, like the woman's place at the stove. Aha! Shchazzz !! She held back all the attacks.
And he does not take offense at criticism. He easily says: "Don't worry about it. I'm generally a bore."
I'm lazy, I love you!

I'm lazy, I love you!

Iriskin, I remember you! Well, in that topic with the men.

Nothing, I'm used to it. The forum did not take place, so that they would not accept me for a man. At one time I even collected screenshots.

[to me]

I'm generally a bore.

By the way. About boring. Today I washed the dishes and watched myself with a specialist. I washed everything, turned on the water, rinsed the plate under the shower and sent it to the dryer. Which is very close and hangs over the sink.

So while the left hand quickly carries the dishes there, the right hand is rinsing another plate. Of course, with the first, the water pours in streams. And with the next one too, because again two hands are doing two different things.

Well that's how to me with this approach to drag wet dishes somewhere in the boxes? It is irrational.
But it's understandable that other people may see rationality differently and have completely different habits.

Iriskin, I remember you! Well, in that topic with the men.

Oh, what people might think.

I liked the layout of the kitchen, combined with the loggia!

The picture is certainly beautiful, but in practice, in cities where it is below zero in winter, this is an absolutely disastrous undertaking.

We combined the balcony with the kitchen, insulated it from all sides, on the floor under the tiles - underfloor heating. As the cold sets in, it is very cold on the balcony, the warm floor does not help, and keeping it on 24 hours a day is very expensive.

The picture is certainly beautiful, but in practice, in cities where it is below zero in winter, this is an absolutely disastrous undertaking.

We combined the balcony with the kitchen, insulated it from all sides, on the floor under the tiles - underfloor heating. As the cold sets in, it is very cold on the balcony, the warm floor does not help, and keeping it turned on 24 hours a day is very expensive.

And the glazing of the loggia - double-glazed windows?

Anya, double-glazed windows - triple high heat, from all sides, including the ceiling and floor, insulation + foam blocks. All the same, it is much colder on the balcony than in the kitchen. Well, that is, it is definitely impossible to sit there.

Anya, double-glazed windows - triple high heat, from all sides, including the ceiling and floor, insulation + foam blocks. All the same, it is much colder on the balcony than in the kitchen. Well, that is, it is definitely impossible to sit there.

Yes, you puzzled me. True, I will have a warm water floor, and I will choose the temperature myself and not turn it off for 24 hours.

Girls, what if we use modern double-glazed windows with heating?

We have an insulated balcony in the bedroom, and we have not removed the window between the balcony and the bedroom; there is also a door that we do not close. There is no warm floor.Of course, it is cooler there than in the room, but still not so much that it is impossible to sit. I have a big chair on this balcony, in which I like to sit, and everything is fine. And if there was a warm floor ...

We combined the balcony with the kitchen, insulated it from all sides, on the floor under the tiles - underfloor heating. As the cold sets in, it is very cold on the balcony, the warm floor does not help, and keeping it on 24 hours a day is very expensive.

This means that some mistakes were made. This is the first time I've heard that the insulation of a balcony according to all the rules was so ineffective.

[Kara]

Kara, Irina, I have a combined kitchen with a balcony and everything is fine, it means that your masters cheated and did not according to the norms.

I'm so warm that my daughter plays there right on the tile and nothing is cold, but because everything is done as it should.

Irishka, I also think that a hack has leaked somewhere!
She herself lived for more than 10 years in an apartment, where we radically changed the layout.
The increase in the kitchen due to the loggia is one of these alterations.
The floor, however, we had water and was turned off only in the summer, when it's hot. And so, it was warm all the time, no temperature changes, I considered it very successful that we enlarged the kitchen! We removed not only the door and window, but also the part of the wall on which this window stood. The family that has bought our apartment so far, when they meet, sings odes to our apartment)

Liked the dining room chandelier

Cool!
But the chandelier is quite expensive.

what a wonderful chandelier, it probably rings too)))))

Virgo, does anyone have such corner sections? I have never met in shops. 🔗

Anna, there were reviews about such a corner section that it is rather cool than functional, because you can't put a lot at the expense of the corners, but it's worth wow!

And at the expense of what wow? Technologically not very difficult for a chela with hands, in my opinion. Carousels, and especially magic corners - this is really Throwing a link to my master, I'll see how he reacts. Small things can be placed in the corners. And on carousels, the corners are not involved anyway.

Virgo, does anyone have such corner sections? I have never met in shops. 🔗

Anna, when planning her kitchen, there was an idea to put such drawers in a corner, but when she looked at it live, she realized that they were not for "heavy" filling, they were flimsy, and the sellers in the salon themselves confirmed my fears

[Anna1957]

Anna1957I really liked the built-in tech compartments. Class,

[Anna1957]

Anna1957, so there on the other side the corners disappear.

but when examined live, I realized that they are not for "heavy" filling, they are flimsy,

Here's where to feel

[Anna1957]

Anna1957, so there on the other side the corners disappear.

I say - I would like to see it live. On the sides of the boxes at the back, the corners seem to disappear.
And the drawers are not good for me. In Soviet times, we had a Polish kitchen with a pull-out worktop - somehow they didn't use it.
And the option with a door in the corner - it will interfere, I think it will. Then the type of roller blind is needed (I mean the closing mechanism.)

Here's where to feel

I felt in "Stylish Kitchens"

[5 layout options for a small kitchen]

Found on the Internet, maybe someone will come in handy.5 layout options for a small kitchen

[Cirre]

Cirre, very clearly. Class

Girls, tell me. First, the kitchen is installed, and then can you make an apron from a tile, or an apron first, and then a kitchen? Or is it all the same?
Even in the topic of hoods, they do not answer me (, is such a hood that at an angle is just a design or is it somehow technically more profitable than the classic options?
And what should be the distance from the hob or kitchen machine to the hood itself?

Hoods.
Practical Installation Tips

Using our practical advice, you can either install the hood yourself (if desired), or supervise the work of specialists.

In any case, before installing the exhibition, you need to think over the location and material of the air duct, and provide the power supply.

In most cases, the air is removed through the ventilation duct, which often complicates the installation of the hood and the supply of the duct itself, since the layout of the apartments and the arrangement of furniture do not always allow installing the hood next to the ventilation duct.
When conducting a duct, a simple rule must be followed - the shorter the duct and the fewer turns, the better, because with each turn of the duct, the efficiency of the installed kitchen hood decreases.
The air outlet pipe must have a diameter not less than the diameter of the exhaust pipe. It is desirable that in the horizontal plane the pipe is located at a slight slope (about 10%) upward, thereby creating a natural draft for air discharge from the room to the outside.

Hood in the kitchen Now about the most important question: what should be the distance between the hob and the bottom plane of the hood?
Here you should be guided by the following recommendations:
- if you have an electric hob, then 60-80cm is recommended (75cm is considered optimal);
- if gas, then 65-80cm. The optimum is 70cm.

Often there is a question with determining the optimal distance between the hob and the inclined hood.
In the operating instructions it is usually noted that the installation height of the hood above the electric stove must be at least 45 cm, and above the gas burners at least 65 cm.
According to our observations, such a hood will work more efficiently when the distance of its lower part from the hob is 30-35 cm for an electric stove, and 50-55 cm for stoves with gas burners.

In any case, keep in mind that if the hood is positioned too high, its efficiency decreases and odors and steam escape from the working area and spread through the kitchen. Too low position of the hood interferes with work at the stove, and can lead to a fire of grease accumulated on the filters.

A few words about connecting the hood to the mains.
Although the installation of the hood is usually carried out after the installation of the kitchen unit, its location should be determined in advance. In this case, a separate outlet should be installed, placing it directly above the hood, or above the adjacent cabinet of the kitchen unit. Remember that the base cord is usually not long enough to connect the hood to existing outlets.

And again, and again I want to remind you that the width of the hood depends solely on the dimensions of the stove! The width of the hood should be equal to or greater than the width of the hob, but never narrower. The larger the hood, the more efficiently it will take in air and clean it.

Girls, tell me. First, the kitchen is installed, and then can you make an apron from a tile, or an apron first, and then a kitchen? Or is it all the same?

I installed the bottom, then the apron, and then hung the top

Galya, thanks!
Is this inclined the same hood with a screen at an angle? I have an induction hob, so only 35 cm from the bottom, so low? Hmm

[Lisichkalal]

Lisichkalal, Svetlana, first they make an apron, then they assemble the kitchen.

Girls, thanks!
Another question, there is an option to make an apron just from a tile, but there is a material, like a tabletop. Tiles are easier to clean than a regular, inexpensive countertop, right? ))

[Lisichkalal]

Lisichkalal, first they made an apron for me, and then they made measurements for the kitchen.
The distance from the hob to the hood is indicated in the passport of a particular hood, but the standards are approximately the same. For electric and gas stoves, this is a different distance.

Tile - more aesthetically pleasing and practical !!! Purely my opinion ... :-)

Tile - more aesthetically pleasing and practical !!! Purely my opinion ... :-)

I’ll join, I just need to choose the right color, in my country house it is white and pink, I’m tired of washing it after the blanks and so every year, but in the city it’s dark green, nothing is visible

Is it not a problem to drill holes on the tiles for metal sticks, do I constantly forget their purpose? And somehow make the sockets in the tiles.
Does the tile not crack?

Galya, how would you know in advance which color is more practical? Until the eye fell on a light green, light green even fry.

What color will the kitchen be?

[Lisichkalal]

Lisichkalal
The distance from the hob to the hood is indicated in the passport of a particular hood

Sveta, thank you, valuable information. I'll go to maagaz and demand a passport for the hoods.

What color will the kitchen be?

Galya, who else would know for sure))
Most likely light beige, perhaps gray, but unlikely.
Ooh, just noticed, this is my 1000 message)) happy anniversary))

[Lisichkalal]

Lisichkalal, I'm not Galya, but I will answer. If it is more practical, then the color of the tile is better in not very light colors, I have a light beige, well, more or less, I can wash it once every 2 weeks. Better not smooth-shiny, but matte, drops and splashes are not so visible. And the best thing is a tile with a surface that imitates the unevenness of a natural stone, well, something like this
🔗
In general, practicality is a relative concept, it depends on the frequency of cooking, on the preparation of fried, on the hostess herself ... There are housewives who live and enjoy themselves with aprons from mirrors !!! Well, they cook only boiled eggs and fried in the oven, as an example.

Sveta, thank you.
Well, of course, in the store, I fell for a shiny one)))
I'll look again))
And I cook often, a lot, like all the girls from this forum)) But with cleaning not on "you" ((Always through I DO NOT WANT.

Decorating a working wall in the kitchen with CD mosaic

[Cirre]

Cirre, beautiful, of course :-) but I am always confused by the question of practicality ... how to wash it, because the surface is easily soiled

[Lisichkalal]

Lisichkalal, my tile is shiny, light beige, very easy to clean, I walked around with a cloth without effort and everything, even if the drops of fat were frozen, is washed off the gloss at once. First, sockets are planned, an apron is made, then the kitchen is assembled, the rails are hung last, the tiles are drilled normally