tana33
Quote: Exocat
Well, maybe ...
Doesn't a hole in the countertop reduce its useful life? I have a kitchen for 8 years, at the joints the countertop has already begun to look not new, after all, no, no, and something will fall.

I don't know))) sealant to help us, probably))) but in general, the box is rigidly mounted there, and inside the box there is already a block of sockets up and down
I had an old tabletop without joints, it served for a long time
new so far new))) but the kitchen is straight, so there are no joints, and the inserts are filled with sealant
Ikea's girlfriend, t-gray, is already 5 years old, like new, not a scratch, at the joints the Ikeev profile is the same, and it looks neat and closes apparently well

Yasmina, there are a lot of innovations)))) Of course, everyone decides whether or not it is necessary for him personally, we do the kitchen for ourselves, and not for the guests, so that they come and gasp -Ah, how cool you are! ))) the guests waved and went home, and we live in this "cool" kitchen)))
Anna1957
Quote: tana33
I plan to make an IKEE illumination, in which an additional socket is provided
In general, I like it when the sockets are attached to the bottom of the wall cabinets. And I don't understand why they are traditionally installed on the wall. I now have both options in the kitchen. And in the new one I still don't know how to do it - I'll listen to you.
tana33
Anya, I always have a cotton paper on my tabletop, a coffee maker and a cartoon, an outlet block on the side, it is not visible, the cords are also not visible
and if you connect them up, then the cords will hang over the equipment all the time, I don't like this beauty
I need an outlet block for the cabinet for a blender and a meat grinder, so as not to reach for the block constantly
Anna1957
Well, yes, they are for periodic connection.
firuza83
Quote: Anna1957
I generally like it when the sockets are attached to the bottom of the wall cabinets.
Is it inside the locker? hmm ... interesting ..: girl-th: And where will the wires from the equipment be?
firuza83
And, everything, I understand ...) that is, they will not be hidden in any way .. Eh ..
firuza83
Well, in principle, if you think so, for permanent equipment, there are already enough sockets in the wall so as not to switch 100500 times .. And for one-time you can experiment ..)
Anna1957
By the way, I have 2 doubles made. There is a micra and a toaster on an open shelf, and the wires from them are stationary in the sockets. Of course, they go down a little from above, but I'm used to it already. And two are for periodic connection.
Exocat
Quote: tana33
Anya, I always have a x / p on my tabletop, a coffee maker and a cartoon, an outlet block on the side, it is not visible, the cords are not visible either, but if you plug them up, the cords will hang over the equipment all the time, I don't like this beauty
Here I have the same thing, also a coffee grinder, for which the cord up is not even ugly, but inconvenient.
So, probably, it depends on what and where you turn it on.
Aunt Besya
Probably, the location and type of outlets are really individual preferences, it would be inconvenient for me to use the sockets built into the tabletop. My working (main) place is between the sink and the stove. It is here that I do everything, including working with a mixer, a vacuum cleaner and other devices that are not permanently connected to the network, everything else is included forever. Logically, it is for such "temporary" devices that such sockets are needed: put out-put away .. But how many once something spilled on the table, some crumbs from breading, or the minced meat beats off, I like to smack my handles on the table, especially on kupaty - splashes fly ... Well, somehow I can't imagine the sockets on the surface of the table ... then they get dirty, so from time to time they have to "fey" with a cotton swab ...
Olga VB
Aunt Besya, Lenochka, so that the splashes do not fly, it is better to shuffle right in the bag, just not too thin, so that the pieces of the bag do not fly around the kitchen
Aunt Besya
OLYA, you know, it's a habit! I don’t feel the consistency otherwise. I need to knock with the edge of my palms, put it in a pile, throw it on the table, add some liquid ...
Svetta
I put a socket with a lid in the kitchen. It is not far from the sink, it is in this place that I do all the manipulations with the mixer, meat grinder, etc. Then I wiped the lid on the outlet and cleanly, nothing needs to be picked out of it.
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toffee
I came to you with my new kitchen. Tell me why they didn't check me for adequacy when ordering? How! How could I choose these colors and design that way? There are very few photos, the camera is covered in the phone. Only the initial stage. Nothing embedded, not installed. A lot of jambs got out.
Here is the corner suspension. There is no glass yet.

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This is the closet underneath. There was a defect on the countertop, so also in this place without it. Vanilla color.

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This is the top suspension. Actually showing the color.

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This is a locker near the window. There is no glass yet. There will be a mv in the niche.
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Pleased with the sink. I only saw her in a picture of a computer. I was worried that I would not like it. As a result, an excellent sink.
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That's a dishwasher. Mistletoe seems to be the same.
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toffee
Now about the jambs. It is in this company that the lower plinth for radius cabinets is not made. Why I was not warned is a mystery. Now my headset stands like a hut on chicken legs. I do not like.
Bumpers for quiet door closing not on all doors. Not closers, but bumpers. And I ordered
Do not provide an estimate. What, for what, what was bought is not known. The firm does not provide this.
Large, deep drawers for pots are not made of drawers, but of the type of pull-out shelves with small edges and a short back wall. It’s strange. I kind of asked for boxes. Made up pots do not seem to fall. Only unusual.
Now my jambs.
I didn't think about the moment that the dishwasher was white and the facades were vanilla. The view is not very good.
The upper pendants were drilled high. I sort of measured it for my height, but now I use it, no, it's too high.
And the most important jamb. The headset stood clearly from corner to corner. No gap for curtains or tulle. The upper drawer, where there is no glass and for mv, when opened, crawls over the window frame. I made up the guest dishes there, I will rarely open it, but all the same, over time, traces will remain. But you girls, now advise how to curtain the window? Blinds on glass are not an option - windows sweat. Can we decide collectively?
toffee
Well, at least they bought new equipment. Stove -Electrolux, oven-Hansa. No photo.
Tancha
Quote: iris. ka
Blinds on glass are not an option - windows sweat
Why do they sweat? I seem to be fine. I am very satisfied. The blinds fit directly onto the frame.
toffee
I do not know. In the kitchen they cry and freeze in winter. Maybe the installation is not correct, maybe something else.
Cirre
iris. ka Ira, maybe a roman blind? or one curtain opening to the other side of the drawer?
toffee
Gal, I was thinking about the Roman one. Like. Should it essentially cover the window frame? If you can see the platband on one side, it won't work, will it?
V-tina
Quote: iris. ka
Large, deep drawers for pots are not made of drawers, but of the type of pull-out shelves with small edges and a short back wall. It’s strange. I kind of asked for boxes. Made up pans do not seem to fall. Only unusual.
Irina, for me too, although my own husband did. The sides in these boxes can be extended, special things are sold like this .. (my husband is sleeping, but I do not remember what they are called)

, but in my opinion they are almost like half of this box, you can still build up chipboard, but our hands have not reached it, it is convenient for me and so, nothing falls, neither stocks, nor dishes
toffee
V-tina, truth? Fuu, well, at least for someone, too. So I want to see the estimate. What am I paying not feeble money for? Girls, who made the order, did they give you a check?
tana33
Irina, I also have no gaps, and did not plan)))) there is a curtain hanging on the window, here the table top ends straight and the curtain starts right away))) is it okay, take a picture?
drawers are usually with short walls, I have no higher than 10-12 cm, everything is fine and does not fall out, I put fixed-price silicone mats on the bottom, they are very thin, it is inconvenient for me to roll the dough, so I adapted them, pans on them, in each other, stand like a glove and do not crawl

by the plinth, find out from them where they do
plinths are soft, plastic, can you look for one?
or change the legs to beautiful ones, then there is no need for a basement, many recommend doing this to make the kitchen look lighter
my friend has an ikeevskaya, without a base, I like it, I wanted it that way too and even bought legs in ikea, but damn it, there are three assholes in our house, which means that I will either have to contemplate the crumbs on the floor under the kitchen, or wash the floor there every day, and I'm lazy, in general, I put the base
Svetlana201
iris. ka, I did the kitchen to order. Everything was completely painted, both in terms of price and area (countertop, plinth, plinth), everything, everything, of course, a contract, a receipt for payment and a guarantee, and the terms of payment and terms of production and installation. But it was all in a large salon, not at a private owner's. Where did you make the kitchen?
toffee
You say hmmmm to change the legs .... What will the replacement look like? Is it necessary to turn the tables over or somehow one at a time?
toffee
Svetlana201, this is not something that would be a private trader, but not a salon. The firm rents a corner in a large store. They make windows, doors, furniture. Probably it is necessary to approach the director on this issue.
tana33
Irina, I think that now only one at a time))))
tana33
Irina, here

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toffee
tana33, yeah, yeah, I see. I can't do that. My daughter comes home from school, maybe I'll take a picture on her phone. Let's think together.
I called the director of this company now about the estimate. He said that they provide only on my application. In a madhouse!
tana33
Irina, strange things according to the estimate are said by a comrade, they must immediately provide it and agree
so far we have drawn up a working draft, we recounted everything 10 times, because at first we counted EVERYTHING in the highest order
it turned out wow))))
sat down to count what is my stupidity
something that can be painlessly replaced with a cheaper analogue
moved-apart the width of the cabinets, changed the height of the upper cabinets
changed hood options
first there was a film, then painting
corner-straight kitchen

etc

and every time he wrote me the cost, taking into account the changes
and only after - Tatyan, exactly everything ?, I made an advance payment

right now I am writing and I think, well, what a patient master I have))) Thank you, Vasily))))
Bijou
Quote: iris. ka
I do not know. In the kitchen they cry and freeze in winter. Maybe the installation is not correct, maybe something else.
Well, in the new kitchen you will be using an extractor hood, so there will be no water. Usually food and combustion gas in the case of a gas stove adds water to the air in the kitchen.

Quote: iris. ka
Large, deep drawers for pots are not made of drawers, but of the type of pull-out shelves with small edges and a short back wall. It’s strange. I kind of asked for boxes.
Maybe there are not boxes at all, but metaboxes?) On the sides is a board or something else with a tube on top? This is noticeably more expensive than conventional boxes on ball guides.
toffee
Here's another photo. This is a problematic window. I went to the atelier today. The master said that if you make Roman blinds, then the upper door will not open at all. These curtains have guide knitting needles. The entire structure does not move sideways. These knitting needles will not let you open the door. The master suggested panels like Chinese curtains. In a parallel topic Anna1957 , like, wants to delimit the room with such panels. You can beat these panels in height and, if necessary, they are removed to the side.
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This is an oven.
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And these are the same boxes.
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Is this really metabox?
firuza83
iris. ka, there are curtains that are attached directly to the window (glass), I saw such in the Interior group. If I find I will throw off the photo and their name.
kseniya D
Irina, I would still make blinds or roller blinds, but on the frame. Visually, the room will be reduced even more by curtains or panels that will be in the foreground.
firuza83
iris. ka, I found it. Roller blinds are called.Furniture for kitchen
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firuza83
if the windows are sweating, then the hood will solve this problem easily. Without the hood, I also sweated, cried, with the hood, these problems disappeared ..
firuza83
Quote: kseniya D
I would still make blinds or roller blinds, but on the frame.
then it will be problematic to open the window.
Olga VB
Quote: iris. ka
The master said that if you make Roman blinds, then the upper door will not open at all. These curtains have guide knitting needles. The entire structure does not move sideways. These knitting needles will not let you open the door.
What stupidity!
This curtain should be mounted in the window opening, not over the opening.
The only thing that needs to be checked is that the window opens normally.And, as the girls write, there are very nice curtains that are attached directly to the frames, they rise and fall either from top to bottom or from bottom to top (that is, when half-closed, either the upper part of the window is obtained open or bottom) and fixed at any height.
In your case, it probably will.
Oh, while I was writing, Yasmina, a smart girl, has already embossed the picture.
toffee
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iris. ka, there are curtains that are attached directly to the window (glass), I saw such in the Interior group. If I find I will throw off the photo and their name.
Yasmina, the windows are sweating and freezing.
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Quote: kseniya D

Irina, I would still make blinds or roller blinds, but on the frame. Visually, the room will be reduced even more by curtains or panels that will be in the foreground.
And if over time I get tired of the blinds, will the frame be permanently damaged?
firuza83
Quote: iris. ka
sweat and freeze windows
and sweat with the hood?
Cvetaal

my blinds are attached to the frame, there are no problems with opening-closing at all, on page 195 there are my photos of the kitchen, the blinds are slightly visible there
Olga VB
Then make a similar roll only in the opening at the level of the edge of the window sill. If, of course, the window will open normally.
Or just a cornice and an ordinary curtain exactly the width of the opening, so as not to interfere.
firuza83
Quote: iris. ka
And if over time I get tired of the blinds
a case of you, Irina, I'm afraid only blinds and roller blinds will fit your "problem" window, as you yourself wrote) unless, over time, there is no space near the window)
Cirre
Ira, maybe something like this Furniture for kitchen
Olga VB
Quote: iris. ka
And if over time I get tired of the blinds, will the frame be permanently damaged?
There will be a great opportunity to change the windows - for those that do not sweat and do not freeze
kseniya D
Quote: firuza83
then it will be problematic to open the window.
In the above pictures, they are just attached to the frame. Why is it problematic?
Aunt Besya
They didn't give me an estimate either, although I ordered it in a large salon. Who remembers my story with the table? Maybe the absence of an estimate and the presence of a contract for an integral, so to speak, construction, then came in handy ...
Oh, how the conversation about the curtains is in time - I'll sit and listen ... I don't even think of any thoughts on how to beat the windows in the studio. The headset will also be back to back, and plus a studio ...
kseniya D
Since I have a kitchen-living room, I had to make curtains in the same way. Therefore, I came up with such for myself in the kitchen. The tulle moderately hides from prying eyes, sometimes I lower the cotton curtains in the extreme heat. We have a sunny side.
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There is tulle on the window in the living room, the same as on the kitchen window, but without dark curtains. All the same, they eat up a lot of space. And what would roller blinds not spy on us?
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And this is a general view
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Elena Tim
Quote: tana33
Thank you, Vasily))))
Yes, I’m not, hospitable.
firuza83
Quote: kseniya D
In the above pictures, they are just attached to the frame. Why is it problematic?
in the photo they are attached to the sashes, not to the frame. The frame is a little different.Furniture for kitchen that's why I understood it differently.

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