Furniture for kitchen

[Svetlana]

Svetlana, make 2 long and three short.
play with them, I sat for a very long time and selected options in ikea so that there were no cracks

Girls, here's to you about the sink! She moved it on purpose. Now there is something to think about)
And my husband just twisted at his temple, moved, moved, I cursed, "who builds like this ???" communication in the middle))), and now everything is back))))

Svetochka, are you left-handed?
If you are right-handed, it is better to wash to the right with the wing.
And then it is more logical and more convenient to move the sink and dishwasher to the extreme right position.
Make all the upper cabinets the same height, except for the extractor hood.
It is better to place it in the middle of the front. The place where you get a narrow cabinet at the top, in extreme cases, you can generally leave it open, without a door, and make there not a cabinet with your own box, but shelves resting on neighboring cabinets, moreover, the upper one is level with the upper edge, and the lower - with the bottom. Although indoor, of course, is better.
Do you have exactly 340cm on the wall? What is the width of Pmm, a cabinet for installation? Have you already bought a sink?
Mark on the plan the exact location of the refrigerator and the dimensions of the window.
How high is it? Perhaps it makes sense to wrap the kitchen ury (corner) up to the refrigerator.
Where is the table supposed to be?

Oh, girls, I just can't keep up with you.
Thanks a lot !!!! kiss everyone !!!
But I will answer with a delay, I must somehow fit everything in my head))
I thought that in my version nothing could be changed, but there it is))
Olya, 3.39 cm long (((

In the last picture, the sink has been pushed back a pmm width.
But then make the furniture under the sink 80 cm? 60 with a wing, I have not met.
Then the bottom cabinet with drawers 80 cm, 2 to 60 cm will not fit. It seemed to me 80 - this is very convenient for drawers.
Olya, I'm right-handed. It's just that I now have a sink and dryer on the left and I didn't even think that something was wrong)))

[Lisichkalal]

Lisichkalal, here is an old photo from the kitchen. Then the machine was still white, but there was no kitchen processor.)) Now it most often stands next to the kettle. Or the Princess, who has not yet been given a separate shelf. And also all sorts of garbage, which is too lazy to carry back and forth every time. It stands in a heap, does not interfere with any kitchen processes, because the main actions take place between the sink and the cooktop.))

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What's wrong with the water line? In dishwashers, it seems to be on the left and is quite long.

Svetlana, do you want to make a roll-out table? There will be an additional work surface. Pictures of the table have already been shown here, very convenient extra. a place.

Yes, and I'm thinking about it too, just don't know where to install it and how much it costs))

[Svetlana]

Svetlana, there is a 60 with a wing, I have this))) the wing is small, but since I have a p / m, I don't need to put the dishes on the wing, and it's enough, I would have taken it without a wing at all, but I have a wall there , it's inconvenient to beat your elbow against the wall, so that the washing bowl was slightly pushed away from the wall and took
you need to look at the size under the inset, I have a cabinet under it for 60, but the sink slightly climbed into the territory of the PMM, they cut off the inside wall of the cabinet, but this is because the wing is on the left, if they were put on the right, then everything would be great
if your wing is in the direction of p / m, then everything will fit perfectly, but why do you need it if you have a p / m

[Svetlana]

Svetlana, offhand by 60cm
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my friend has such a, very comfortable, I used to visit))))

here's another
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Svetochka, are you left-handed?
If you are right-handed, then it is better to wash to the right with the wing.
And then it is more logical and more convenient to move the sink and dishwasher to the extreme right position.
Make all upper cabinets the same height, except for the extractor hood.
It is better to place it in the middle of the front.The place where you get a narrow cabinet at the top, in extreme cases, you can generally leave it open, without a door, and make there not a cabinet with your own box, but shelves resting on neighboring cabinets, moreover, the upper one is level with the upper edge, and the lower - with the bottom. Although indoor, of course, is better.
Do you have exactly 340cm on the wall? What is the width of Pmm, a cabinet for installation? Have you already bought a sink?
Mark on the plan the exact location of the refrigerator and the dimensions of the window.
How high is it? Perhaps it makes sense to wrap the kitchen ury (corner) up to the refrigerator.
Where is the table supposed to be?

I'm right-handed. Now drying and pmm on the left, like normal. Wouldn't have told me if I hadn't noticed the inconvenience))
All pipes are already under the left side, if you change, then they too.
Is it so important and is it really more convenient to dry and pmm on the right side?
I'll take into account the cabinets. But the problem is with the window. You can see it in the picture and you can't make a long wardrobe there. And I also find it inconvenient to carry the hood to the wall with a window. Cook right against the wall.
Nah, I just don't open it))) close everything and forget about the dust)
3.39cm kitchen length
Pmm 60 cm, which means a cabinet 60 for it.
We haven't bought the sink yet.
There is a refrigerator in the picture, such a gray rectangle)
In the orange picture, opposite the planned kitchen, there is a battery, then an empty place where the table will be, after the refrigerator.
It is impossible to wrap the kitchen, the refrigerator opens to the left, that is, to the table and leaves no space.
Window: 70 cm to the ceiling, 127 from the floor, the window itself is 49 cm high. That is, the kitchen height is 246 cm.
From the wall where the kitchen is 23.5 cm, the length of the window is 86 cm.To the next wall is 127 cm.That is, the width of the kitchen is 236.5 cm
Refrigerator 63 depth.

I'm right-handed. Now drying and pmm on the left, like normal. Wouldn't have told me if I hadn't noticed the inconvenience))

Likewise. The sponge is on the right, since I'm right-handed. The plate is on the left. Why would I shift it to my other hand to put it on the right?

Is it so important and is it really more convenient to dry and pmm on the right side?

I am right-handed, the PMM is on the right side, but the sink wing and, accordingly, the mixer are on the left, it's very convenient for me

Light, and the refrigerator cannot somehow be built in like that?


And here's another interesting proposal

[Cirre]

Cirre, Sveta cannot put a tall cabinet on both sides, she has a microscopic window on one side, the cabinet will block it

And here's another interesting proposal

personally, I will constantly beat these corners and walk with bruises on the fifth point
from the sink everything will splash and pour onto the floor, on the cabinet doors, if not for me, then for my crooked households, for sure, while the apple is washed, everything will be flooded
on the stove the same thing, when frying, the entire floor will be sprinkled, there is also the likelihood of swiping, for example, a ladle on the floor
in general, some kind of dangerous layout

[Svetlana]

I have no dishes on my wing (dishes in the dryer). And on the wing there are sponges, brushes, gel, ... Or a colander with fruits and vegetables.
Therefore, it is more convenient for me to have a wing under my right hand.
Svetlana, and if you unfold the refrigerator? there you have a full-fledged working area can be formed. That is, a corner kitchen with full minced meat.

Sveta, I strongly advise you to pay attention to which direction the refrigerator door will open when you already find a place for it. Most often (99%), the door opens from left to right. My refrigerator was immediately planned to stand in the left corner by the window and such an opening was extremely inconvenient for me - I had to come close to the window and open the door completely to get something. Therefore, we bought a refrigerator with the ability to outweigh the opening of doors (not all have this function) and for additional. The store immediately outweighed the door to us, they open from right to left. Now I can slightly open the door and put something quickly. And the work surface starts to the right of the refrigerator, so you took it out and put it down and don't carry it in your hands.

Sveta, doesn't this sound like what you want?

Girls, and I shot ...

I have been thinking about the kitchen, its design, functionality, material and so on for so long and hard. So worried, nervous.For me, the kitchen was the most terrible stage in the renovation, since I had to command myself and make it for myself (and who lives there ?!)) And it took, and it decided everything by itself! Sensible designers were caught, not deaf. We took into account the wishes, specialties of the kitchen, heard all my cockroaches)). Explained on fittings, etc. Ta-daaaam! Yesterday installed! There are no words, only ooh-ooh! Pretty, everything is so comfortable, even the most creepy and cramped hole was beaten with a functional door. The range of colors just magically merged with the tiles on the wall and on the floor. In general, I am very happy! I would like to expose a photo, but so far there is not enough light and has not yet brought order. I'm still waiting for an electrician. As soon as it shines, I will immediately brag)) chichas just could not resist ...

Is it possible to beat the window

or something like this

[Malva]

MalvaLilia, with a kitchen, let her pleases and serve for a long time.

[Malva]

Malva, hooray-hooray !!!!
Congratulations with joy!

[Cirre]

Cirre, Bijouthank you girls! I walk in circles, like that cat, I admire)))

We are waiting for the photo

[Lily]

Lily, Congratulations! This is such a joy for the hzyayki !!!

[svetta]

svetta, Oh thanks! What's true is true))

A piece remains. Awesome flaw. With the masters, we never came to a consensus.
Here is a disgusting photo (the phone and the dim lamp did their job)), but the front of the work is visible:
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private house. the ceilings in the kitchen are awfully low. And the question is this: you need to hide this bunch of pipes from the heating boiler, ventilation shafts in the ceiling, while closing the corrugation of the hood (which does not exist yet, but will and will stick out ugly). The guys offered me to sew up the facade right up to a free-standing cabinet. And I don’t want to, it turns out some kind of vestibule. To come up with such a thing, to hide at least some of these pipes? Or not bother? Just sew over the hood and truncate? What would you do?

maybe just put it in a closet of a style like a kitchen? And if it does not interfere, then you can leave it that way

[Lily]

Lily, and there you can simulate a column for built-in equipment. that is, to sew all this beauty into a vertical structure, but not to make a solid facade, but to break it down at the level of the boxes.
It would be nice to have a photo from different angles and in more detail.
Why do you have upper boxes on the right under the ceiling, and on the left - below?

[Cirre]

Cirrehow to clean the closet ??? Where will my technology live? Nooo, so do not go)) I won this place with a fight! I ordered a cabinet with the necessary shirshiny, with the necessary shelves. And he absolutely does not interfere, anyway, we used to have a table with a TV set there. That's when it was ugly. And now there is a niche for TV (so as not to offend the rest of the population at home)). The fact is that there is a refrigerator nearby and they create their own harmony in this part of the kitchen. The kitchen is long and narrow, so they twisted and twisted so that it was both functional and not very visually loaded.

Olga VB, this is a wardrobe, as I wrote above. And it is the same height as the refrigerator, that is, the kitchen is not broken, but on the contrary, the height of the refrigerator is leveled. They wanted it under the ceiling, but it would be ugly - once, but two - the level of the ceiling is different and if there were a solid cabinet on the top, it would become very noticeable. We already had one piece of furniture in the air. Unfortunately, the ceiling was repaired as best they could: either it was necessary to completely dismantle the roof and redo it, or to do it the way they did. Well, it was very expensive to disassemble it ...
As for the vertical structure, an interesting idea is whether the gasmen will allow the whole thing to be hidden. We were not allowed to hide the pipes under the ceiling behind decorative boxes, I doubt that I will get the go-ahead for such beauty.

[Lily]

Lily, make a structure with doors, can you?

[tana33]

tana33, need to think. The gasman has just been and has confirmed once again that blocking is not possible ... Damn. Boom to think.

[Lily]

Lily, you cannot block the gas without access to the device... But you can make a cabinet with a door around the device. When gas meters are installed in our apartments, they are allowed to be mounted inside an opening cabinet. Well like that

[svetta]

svetta, the second photo is a cool idea! Thank you! It is necessary to develop this temka: a locker and a lattice. I'll throw off the photo for the furniture makers, maybe they'll come up with something.

[Lisichkalal]

Lisichkalal, here is an old photo from the kitchen. Then the machine was still white, but there was no kitchen processor.)) Now it most often stands next to the kettle. Or the Princess, who has not yet been given a separate shelf. And also all sorts of garbage, which is too lazy to carry back and forth every time. It stands in a heap, does not interfere with any kitchen processes, because the main actions take place between the sink and the cooktop.))

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What's wrong with the water line? For dishwashers, it seems to be on the left and is quite long.

Very nice kitchen!
Is a sink comfortable without a wing? Where to dry the dishes? Or plastic containers or whatever I wash with my hands.
Umm and the old sink are now connected and all the pipes are installed, I don’t want to radically change something, for example, in places the umm and the sink.

[Svetlana]

Svetlana, there is a 60 with a wing, I have this))) the wing is small, but since I have a p / m, I don't need to put the dishes on the wing, and it's enough, I would have taken it without a wing at all, but I have a wall there , it's inconvenient to beat your elbow against the wall, so that the washing bowl is slightly pushed away from the wall and takes it with a wing
you need to look at the size under the inset, I have a 60 cabinet under it, but the sink slightly climbed into the territory of the PMM, they cut off the inside wall of the cabinet, but this is because the wing is on the left, if they were put on the right, then everything would be great
if you have a wing towards p / m, then everything will be fine, but why do you need it, if you have a p / m

Tanya, now I have a wing and I use it very actively. From the PMM I take out a full of wet plastic containers. I also wash all the bowls from the multicooker with my hands, etc.
Outwardly and to save space, I would install without a wing, but how can I imagine constantly wiping all these containers ..
And finishing drying on a towel is not the same either.
The wing to the sides, um, but now I'm thinking about the location of the sink, you all advise to leave space and not install the sink almost right next to the rack.
The sink in the middle is somehow quite coordinated for me, I think it will be more convenient if the main working surface is longer.
But perhaps you also need to think about moving the hood closer to the window.

[Svetlana]

Svetlana, offhand by 60cm
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my friend has such a, very comfortable, I used to visit))))

here's another
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The fact of the matter is that 60 cm without a wing, and I meant no 60 with a wing.
I was surprised by the depth of sinks 50 cm!

Light, and the refrigerator cannot somehow be built in like that?

Galya, firstly, yes, a window and a cabinet cannot be there, and secondly, the refrigerator will take up a lot of the working surface, and I just want a long surface.
And what to do in the corner on the other side, where I am planning the refrigerator now.
No, this option does not fit in any way.

[Svetlana]

Svetlana, and if you unfold the refrigerator? there you have a full-fledged working area can be formed. That is, a corner kitchen with full minced meat.

Olya, then the chair won't get up, and there are 4 of us.

Sveta, I strongly advise you to pay attention to which direction the refrigerator door will open when you already find a place for it. Most often (99%), the door opens from left to right. My refrigerator was immediately planned to stand in the left corner by the window and such an opening was extremely inconvenient for me - I had to come close to the window and open the door completely to get something. Therefore, we bought a refrigerator with the ability to outweigh the door opening (not everyone has this function) and for additional. The store immediately outweighed the door to us, they open from right to left. Now I can slightly open the door and put something quickly. And the work surface begins to the right of the refrigerator, so you took it out and put it down and don't carry it in your hands.

Light, and the refrigerator is already there. And it opens exactly from left to right, that is, as you described, come close to the window and open it.
And now we are doing the same. It is now at the site of the future rack. We got used to it somehow)
I don't even know if my model has the ability to outweigh the door.

Sveta, doesn't this sound like what you want?

Galya, in general, yes, only without a hob. And the rightmost closet cannot hang a long one because of the window.

Girls, more questions.
Is it really convenient when doors and drawers close themselves? How does is called ? system with closers? Do you need it?
And I have a decent distance from the top drawers to the ceiling. You can safely hang taller cabinets. Almost or completely up to the ceiling. Should I do this?

[Lisichkalal]

Lisichkalal, pay attention to the very fastening of the door to the refrigerator. if on the other hand, mirrored, there is a similar device or plugged holes, then the door can be outweighed. It is not difficult and inexpensive at all. After how many years of using the old refrigerator, we were also used to it and did not understand the meaning of overweight. But when I had to change the refrigerator, my friend convinced me to outweigh the doors: "And if you don’t like it, I will call the master myself and put it on the right side as it was." I listened to her and do not regret a single second !!! This is many times more convenient if the approach to the refrigerator is on the right.
If the refrigerator stands with its left side to the window, then the door has to be opened almost completely. Warm air enters the refrigerator and it has to work in a constant enhanced mode for cooling, and the freezing is stronger (if not know frost). And this is a large consumption of e / energy. But it is not the savings that outweigh me, but the CONVENIENCE !!! It is not for nothing that such an opportunity is provided by the manufacturer !!!

Is it really convenient when doors and drawers close themselves? How does is called ? system with closers? Do you need it?

Sveta, this is very convenient! hands are dirty, just busy - I pushed the door with my knee or elbow and that's it

You can safely hang taller cabinets. Almost or completely up to the ceiling. Should I do this?

Quite recently I asked myself this question, as a result, they made cabinets for 90, there is still room up to the ceiling, but not much ... on the upper shelves I only store what I rarely need to get, otherwise you will constantly jump on the stool - no fitness is needed

The fact of the matter is that 60 cm without a wing, and I meant no 60 with a wing.
I was surprised by the depth of sinks 50 cm!

by depth they mean width, misspell
I have this
Franke Maris MRG 611
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Is it really convenient when doors and drawers close themselves? How does is called ? system with closers? Do you need it?

highly
I close the lower knee, push the upper one a little and you're done
and silently, on weekend mornings, who gets up earlier does not bother others (me) to sleep
used to rumble throughout the apartment

This is many times more convenient if the approach to the refrigerator is on the right.

I agree, we also need to outweigh

my friend convinced me to outweigh the doors: "And if you don’t like it, I will call the master myself and put it on the right side as it was."

Sveta, your friend can't come to me and call the master?

Girls, how are you? What do you think ?
But the hood will most likely be narrower, otherwise the window overlaps a little. I just did not find the desired width in the program.
Well, the issue with the wing is still open.
And in the lower picture, under 15 cm oil, the cabinet will be closed.

[Lisichkalal]

Lisichkalal, pay attention to the very fastening of the door to the refrigerator. if on the other hand, mirrored, there is a similar device or plugged holes, then the door can be outweighed.

There is nothing (do not outweigh (

Sveta, this is very convenient! hands are dirty, just busy - I pushed the door with my knee or elbow and that's it
Quite recently I asked myself this question, as a result, they made cabinets for 90, there is still room to the ceiling, but not much ... on the upper shelves I only store what I rarely need to get, otherwise you will constantly jump on the stool - no fitness is needed

Clearly, I understood about the closers.So I think tall cabinets are better. But let's see how this affects the estimate)

by depth they mean width, they misspelled

Ah, otherwise I was really surprised))

highly
I close the lower knee, push the upper one a little and you're done
and silently, on weekend mornings, who gets up earlier does not bother others (me) to sleep
used to rumble throughout the apartment

)) I understood, the thing is necessary. Yes, for sure, my parents always slammed doors) But we sleep on another floor, we can't hear anything there, but it's still nice if nothing slams.

High top cabinets are very convenient. On the upper shelves I store ceremonial dishes and things that I rarely use. The son takes it out of the stool. You are constantly tormented to climb, but how much is stored up there! An additional cabinet would be needed.

Yes, otherwise so much space is wasted and dust collects.