larissa
I tried it, but it is quite possible that I held it a little pressed, since there was no squeak. In principle, the error is not critical, instead of a small loaf, I accidentally put out a large one. I'll just turn off the baked goods early. Thanks a lot for your support
tatulja12
Quote: Larissa

I tried it, but it is quite possible that I held it a little pressed, since there was no squeak. In principle, the error is not critical, instead of a small loaf, I accidentally put out a large one. I'll just turn off the baked goods early. Thanks a lot for your support
Larissa, it’s just that the loaf will turn out to be redder. If the dough is not very rich, then you may not turn it off earlier.
Hairpin
It's late, but I will unsubscribe. Oh, these guys. This button should not be pressed, but pressed within a short period of time. I had the same in Kenwood. If you press - not a fig, but if you press and hold ...
Lenusya
even though it's late, but I will add, after the beep and there is an empty display, you need to press not Start, but the program selection button ...
Hairpin
And if you read us, it turns out that Larissa cannot switch the bread maker for the second day! But what mutual assistance!
-Elena-
Quote: Hairpin

The recipe is from the instructions. The water is clearly clamped ...
But I still cannot understand. Why honey instead of sugar? And it is in rye ... I often read the phrase "No molasses, put honey" ... But what if I have molasses?

And I put 5 grams of yeast per 100 grams of bread flour ... Aki for baking ... It's heavy ...
Hairpinabout yeast. I make Borodinsky - 360 g of rye + 180 g of wheat - I put 6-7 g of pressed yeast. It turns out almost airy bread (taking into account 1 tbsp. L. Panifarin). And I use flour from Auchan (with their brand). Quite worthy flour.
Hairpin
Elena. RU!
Thank you, I have more or less got used to Makfa, so I will try further. Just throw in a link to the recipe. The airy result is very tempting!
larissa
:)Thanks for the support! Couldn't answer as the internet was not available. I was pleased with the stove. The bread turned out to be tasty and well-baked and ruddy.
A very big plus in comparison with Mule, Panasonic works an order of magnitude quieter!
Once again, thank you all for your support !!!
Hairpin
Lexter, do not untie yourself so easily !!!

I just can't figure out how to bake cupcakes ... Kenwood had a Cupcake = knead + bake program. And here there is no such thing ... It turns out, you need to knead the dough, and then turn on the baking? That is, two steps?
lina
Hairpin, that's right - first you knead the muffin dough, then turn on the baking. Only now it seems to me that it is better to bake muffins in the oven ...
sazalexter
Hairpin There is such a Bake Raisin regimen, and it is mainly found in the dietary
in the book there is a recipe for Easter cake with raisins. There are a lot of recipes on the forum. The main thing is to immediately get it after baking so that it is not very "tanned" And I put a light crust!
an_domini
sazalexter, The hairpin does not want cake, but a cupcake. The cupcake is made not with yeast, but with baking powder, it does not need to stand, it also seems to me that in this case there will be two steps.
Hairpin
But I know that !!! To me Crumb already explained. Anyway. Two steps means two steps. It's a pity not to put the timer on ...
tatulja12
Hairpin, can I tell you how I'm doing? I knead the dough on a muffin in a bowl, then remove the spatula and spread the bucket with baking paper and pour out the dough. I put the pastries for 60-70 minutes. Paper so that it does not burn, because there is a lot of baking and is done overly ruddy. I liked the paper better.
Hairpin
Tatulya12!
And I still have a bowl to wash? !! With a spoon, which I interfere with? !! Do you want to stick the Hairpin? !!! I'm not a capitalist with a PPM (enviously-enviously) WILL NOT WORK!!! I will do it in two steps! So it is more expedient in terms of labor costs!
sazalexter
Hairpin I am wildly sorry, "did not run into the topic" I did knead the dough dumplings, then baked goods. Do not put on the timer
tatulja12
Quote: Hairpin

Tatulya12!
And I still have a bowl to wash? !! With a spoon, which I interfere with? !! Do you want to stick the Hairpin? !!! I'm not a capitalist with a PPM (enviously-enviously) WILL NOT WORK!!! I will do it in two steps! So it is more expedient in terms of labor costs!
Hairpin, are you lazy chtoli me? I wash my cup and spoon, but the cupcake won't burn.
Hairpin
I’m not lazy or not, I don’t know, but ... my hot water was turned off! So I'm toad.
tatulja12
Hairpin, of course, so let it knead and bake itself. There is no need for her to play the fool, and the mistress to work! Hairpin, already used to the stove?
Hairpin
Tatulya12!
Well, it's my second ... From the first it was, oh, how difficult ...
Hairpin
I came to the conclusion that it is not necessary to wash the bucket only because of the stuck dough between the knife and the pin ... Well, why once again wet the mixing unit ... If there are such troubles with the order of the ingredients ...
Am I risking anything?
Alim
Quote: Hairpin

...
Am I risking anything?

You run the risk of scratching the coating of the bucket with this fried dough
Kapet
Here somewhere a whole thread of discussion is on the topic of washing a bucket, or not washing.
For example, for the entire period of operation (more than a year, I bake 6 times a week), I washed the bucket only once, for prophylaxis. And so - with a dry towel wipe off the remnants from the walls and forward. I think that excess moisture is useless for a metal bucket, although I absolutely do not dispute the other opinion that the bucket must be washed every time. This is probably all individual, like the way you drive a car, or so on ...
Hairpin
Capet! Well, there are already two of us !!! Still, I think it's more correct.

And so, a little flood ... Do you also have slippers from Panasonic?

Alim! This troubles is Panasonic. In other stoves, probably, it should be the other way around.
Alim
I was referring to a ring of dough that is baked between the spatula and the bottom of the bucket. do you have such? If yes - then IMHO, you need to wash
Kapet
Quote: Alim

I was referring to a ring of dough that is baked between the spatula and the bottom of the bucket. do you have such? If yes - then IMHO, you need to wash
You don't need to wash anything, - again, gently grip the shaft with a biscuit with a towel, and gently turn it counterclockwise - everything will fall off by itself ...

From the beginning of operation, I take off the biscuit like this - everything works ...
Zest
Quote: Hairpin

I came to the conclusion that it is not necessary to wash the bucket only because of the stuck dough between the knife and the pin ... Well, why once again wet the mixing unit ... If there are such troubles with the order of the ingredients ...
Am I risking anything?

The bucket is NOT mine. Unless, in the most extreme cases, when something sticks and burns.
She moved it back and forth with a stirrer, brushed off the crumbs with a cloth - and order.
I specially went to investigate the bottom of the bucket - in some places you can find slight scratches with a picky glance, but this is normal after a year and a half of operation, and even with all sorts of solid additives.

sazalexter
Hairpin And I mine, according to instructions page 24. And I'm not worried about the question
Hairpin
Lexter! Well, the same is impossible !!! First, you convince me that you first need to put dry ingredients because of the shaft design (and, considering that my Kenwood flew somewhere in this node), and now you want me to constantly wet it?
Nope! I will not wash !!!
Bread Pete
Quote: Hairpin

I came to the conclusion that it is not necessary to wash the bucket only because of the stuck dough between the knife and the pin ... Well, why once again wet the mixing unit ... If there are such troubles with the order of the ingredients ...
Am I risking anything?
I do this. I pour in some water, put it in a tilted position for ten minutes, everything will get wet, you can safely wash it. Sometimes I forget, and it’s worth the whole day. But this is not scary - in this position, there is practically no water pressure on the unit.

Bread maker Panasonic SD 255 (part 2)
sazalexter
Hairpin And who do they write instructions for? A small crouton is enough to rip off the Teflon!
Mams
Hairpinand I wash ... Rather, after the bucket has cooled down, I fill it with water for about 15 minutes, wipe it lightly with a cloth and dry it with a towel. Habit, even with Ski, there it was written in the instructions. I don't like this dry piece of dough under the mixer.
Kapet
Quote: sazalexter

Hairpin And who do they write instructions for? A small crouton is enough to rip off the Teflon!

The Teflon coating has a specific color. Where did you see Teflon there?
Alim
IMHO washing has nothing to do with it. After making bread with cheese (Russian), I had difficulties with jamming the shaft. It can be seen that the cheese melted and flowed into the gap, and after the bucket cooled down, it froze.
tatulja12
I wash it, and there is no bucket. If the mixer is attached, then I pour warm water so that it gets soaked and I have to wash it. If the stirrer pulls out well, then not mine, but simply wipe it off. Hairpin, maybe I’m talking in vain, you know, but the advice is to dissolve the salt and sugar, otherwise they can scratch the bucket. I had such a nuisance, so now I always dissolve the salt. Any impurities remain in the glass.
Hairpin
Brad Pitt! Nothing here depends on the water pressure. As I understand it, the danger is in the flow of water through the node. It either flows or it doesn't. And if you increase the pressure, only the speed will change.

Lexter! How else could they write? Can't wash the bucket? I think they meant to wash in a raisin way. If everything is clean, but only the connection point, then it is not necessary. But if parts are stuck on the bucket, then wash it.

Mams! Well, I did Kenwood soaps ... And then this knot began to leak ... So I combed my turnips ...

Capet! Teflon-non-Teflon, then something can be ripped off ...
Mams
Quote: Hairpin


Mams! Well, I did Kenwood soaps ... And then this knot began to leak ... So I combed my turnips ...

No, my Ski hasn't leaked in 8 years, this knot was well made there! God knows, maybe it will flow at Panas ... Then I'll try to change the bucket. I think that it will have to be changed after a while. The dispenser, damn it, just pushes the bread with seeds to the oven
Kapet


The Teflon non-stick surface is only available in dark colors, from dark gray to black. Lighter Teflon is not used at high temperatures. If I'm wrong, show me the link to the light teflon cookware.

As for the non-stick coating of our buckets, this is called hard anodizing of metal (aluminum), or simply a hard anode, which has the property of high resistance to external temperature and mechanical influences.
Kapet
Quote: tatulja12

... Hairpin, maybe I’m talking in vain, you know, but the advice is to dissolve the salt and sugar, otherwise they can scratch the bucket. I had such a nuisance, so now I always dissolve the salt. Any impurities remain in the glass.

If you lay products according to the instructions for Panasonic, and do not use the fast mode, that is, without delaying the time to equalize the temperature, then salt and sugar do not need to be specially dissolved in the liquid, since both salt and sugar are usually laid before pouring it , will naturally end up in this liquid, and by the beginning of the kneading they will be on the flour already in a dissolved or semi-dissolved form, almost unable to scratch anything ...

However, this is almost the same for the back-loading of products: liquid, salt, sugar, etc. Almost, - because undissolved salt and sugar will still be right at the bottom of the bucket, unlike our bookmark, when the undissolved components on the bottom or walls, they may not fall at all, they will dissolve in flour at the first revolutions of the scapula ...

And so that there are no large insoluble impurities, you probably just need to try to use fine evaporated extra salt, if, of course, this does not contradict your beliefs or religion, personal preferences or recipe ...
Bread Pete
To wash or not to wash, that is the question. According to the instructions - wash!

Bread maker Panasonic SD 255 (part 2)

Quote: Mams

No, my Ski hasn't leaked in 8 years, this knot was well made there! God knows, maybe it will flow from Panas ...

And in my previous ski, on the contrary, it dripped very quickly.I don’t remember how much time has passed (it was long ago), but I didn’t bake a lot of bread there, even compared to the 9-month period of operation of the current Panas. Actually, one of the reasons that I then gave up doing bread baking was that I got sick of it. after every bake completely disassemble and rinse this unit. I'll make a reservation, this was more than 10 years ago and, perhaps, since then, the quality of lies has improved.

Quote: tatulja12

Hairpin, maybe I’m talking in vain, you know, but the advice is to dissolve the salt and sugar, otherwise they can scratch the bucket. I had such a nuisance, so now I always dissolve the salt. Any impurities remain in the glass.

And I dissolve 10 tablespoons of sugar and salt in advance and bring the mass of the solution to 1 kg. Enough for 10 times, then it remains only to weigh exactly 100 grams.
Kapet
Quote: Bread Pete

To wash or not to wash, that is the question. According to the instructions - wash!

And I dissolve 10 tablespoons of sugar and salt in advance and bring the mass of the solution to 1 kg. Enough for 10 times, then it remains only to weigh exactly 100 grams.

I never saw anywhere that it was necessary to wash.

Soak the spatula if it is impossible to pull it out - yes, but it never happened to me that I could not pull it out dry. There, the backlash of the blade on the shaft is intended for this.
And in the first picture it is generally said that it is necessary to rinse the remnants of the dough, and not a bucket with a spatula: read carefully the inscription in the picture
And the sugar-salt solution is not for me, - almost every time I bake a different recipe that requires my own proportions of liquid, salt and sugar, or honey instead of sugar, or without sugar at all, and often not even on water: milk, kefir, mineral water, etc. ....
Bread Pete
Quote: Kapet

I never saw anywhere that it was necessary to wash.

Soak the spatula if it is impossible to pull it out - yes, but it never happened to me that I could not pull it out dry. There, the backlash of the blade on the shaft is intended for this.
And in the first picture it is generally said that it is necessary to rinse the remnants of the dough, and not a bucket with a spatula
Well, I will not post the entire instructions here, but judging by it, they still recommend washing. There is always leftover dough on the bucket. However, I am not campaigning for anyone, unlike you. I just think cleanliness won't hurt

Quote: Kapet


And the sugar-salt solution is not for me, - almost every time I bake a different recipe that requires my own proportions of liquid, salt and sugar, or honey instead of sugar, or without sugar at all, and often not even on water: milk, kefir, mineral water, etc. ....

In this case, you can make separate solutions of sugar and salt ...
Kapet
Quote: Bread Pete

In this case, you can make separate solutions of sugar and salt ...

How many percent solutions?

"Shura, don't make a cult out of food" - Ostap Bender, "The Golden Calf".

What I mean is that to stock up on salty and sweet solutions is too much for me ...

I wrote a little earlier that (in my humble opinion) there is no need to dissolve salt and sugar for the top filling of the liquid - they themselves will practically dissolve while the HP stands, from half an hour to an hour and a half, and maybe even more on a timer. And the overwhelming mass of scratches on the bucket are not from salt and sugar, but from solid additives and from the hard crust of the finished bread when you take it out.
I do not impose anything on anyone, and is it really worth bothering with this issue - it's up to you ...
tatulja12
Kapet, I use rock salt and it is full of various impurities, gray reeds often come across, so they scratch the bucket, because they do not melt. And when you dissolve the salt and pour it out of the cup, then this whole byaka remains in the cup.
Kapet
By the way, for beginners, there is one little piece of advice: when you lower the bucket filled for baking into the bread maker, lower the handle of the bucket towards the electronics, and not the rear exhaust, - so it, that is, the handle of the bucket, will have a more presentable look for you , because otherwise the "exhaust" products coming out from the rear side of the HP will quickly and reliably completely stain this handle ...
Kapet
Quote: tatulja12

Kapet, I use rock salt and it is full of various impurities, gray reeds often come across, so they scratch the bucket, because they do not melt. And when you dissolve the salt and pour it out of the cup, then this whole byaka remains in the cup.

I absolutely agree that rock salt must be dissolved in advance. Having experimented with rock and table salt, I did not notice much difference, and therefore switched to fine boiled salt, guaranteed without impurities, stones and sediments ...
sazalexter
Quote: Kapet

The Teflon non-stick surface is only available in dark colors, from dark gray to black. Lighter Teflon is not used at high temperatures. If I'm wrong, show me the link to the light teflon cookware.
I give links
🔗

I had a frying pan with a greenish tint
They also write coverage everywhere multilayer and the fluoroplastic is translucent in the film ...
And anodizing is really hard, only it burns
Hairpin
I baked a cupcake. Forum member Danchik brought the recipe to Aunat and me, so the cupcake remained with me under his name. My daughter liked him since the days of Kenwood, so after my failure with corn, I decided to try it.

Can of condensed milk - 400g 300 grams 350 grams
Eggs - 3 pieces (small 2 categories)
Baking powder - 1.5 teaspoon
Wheat baking flour - 300g
Vanillin - on the tip of a knife
Salt - a pinch

Beat eggs slightly, add condensed milk, mix and pour into a bucket. Add the rest of the ingredients.

Bread maker Panasonic SD 255 (part 2) Bread maker Panasonic SD 255 (part 2)

A bunch of unmixed flour ... I guess I'm mixing in the wrong way. I threw everything in there and put it on Pelmeni. And then for baking. Can. do you need it differently?

And when he interfered, a film turned out at the edges. She began to burn and I even turned it off early. Can I get rid of this film somehow?

I often baked it in Kenwood. But I don’t remember any problems with the kneading or with the film ... But there is a different bucket. High ...
Aunt Besya
People! Humans! Is it possible to buy a separate mixer usual for our stove ??? Yesterday afternoon I put a bread mixer on, I even remember that I washed it. And then she disappeared .... Already the whole kitchen is pro-general, some kind of mysticism. At the time of tying bows like a Hairpin to a chair Jokes are jokes, but I was left with the stove, but without the stove. I wonder what will happen if the wheat dough is mixed with a rye mixer ???
Lenusya
Aunt Besya, in the service center you can order. If you are lucky and available, you will not have to wait.
You have to order from us. I've been waiting for mine for a month.

Shl it seems to me, and a rye shoulder blade will perfectly knead bread

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