Bread Maker Panasonic SD 255 (part 2)

Svetik_, welcome!
It's just not entirely clear what kind of reviews you expect, there are already 109 pages of them already. And the bucket is sure to have a stove in all, some even have 2. There is an opportunity - buy Panas.

You can also use fresh yeast, here you can choose, there is a separate topic about yeast, there are many opinions.

Its me again!!!!! Was upset. The bread did not work: ((What did you do wrong? It seems like a simple white bread according to the recipe. The bread did not rise at all and the flour on the sides

What yeast did you use, how much was it put in, how the ingredients were measured, baked on the main mode or on the fast one? If there are no electronic scales, I advise you to buy.

Gan
Possible reasons:
Not enough yeast, so the bread did not rise. Flour on the sides - either not enough liquid or excess flour.

I understand that the first time it does not work out for many because everything is written there, or is it far from it? or according to proven recipes to act, better from the forum, from experts ??? And I asked about Panasonic because there are a lot of programs, maybe I won't use some, but Panasonica doesn't have a simpler one ... the price bites a lot, I really want it, but it's expensive ... $ 230 If I buy ... do not suffer ... otherwise I get too upset when something does not work out .... Buy scales right away?

Yes, there are not many of them, ordinary bread and rye
And the scales are MANDATORY!

It seems that I measured everything by cups and spoons :)) NO, I DO NOT SET IT ON THE FURNACE WITH HANDLES UNTIL IT'S OK :)) or with PRODUCTS. throw the recipe pliz so that it would be CHECKED for sure. but then she was upset: '(YES, what kind of flour to take, tell me the name !!!! I used PREPORT like it is good for baking

And another question. Do I need to sift flour?

[Gan]

It seems that everything was measured by glasses and spoons :))

Gan, did you measure the flour with a glass? Maybe you miscalculated?
In general, the main one, exactly according to the recipe, is obtained without any problems.
It is advisable to sift the flour.
Sometimes I rush and don't do it - it turns out just as well.
A win-win from Panasonic
1 tsp yeast
400 gr flour
260ml water
1h l. salt
1c. l. Sahara
rast. little 1-2 tbsp. spoons
Basic program size M

[Gan]

Gan, did you measure the flour with a glass? Maybe you miscalculated?
In general, the main one, exactly according to the recipe, is obtained without any problems.
It is advisable to sift the flour.
Sometimes I rush and don't do it - it turns out just as well.

What yeast did you use, how much was it put in, how the ingredients were measured, baked on the main mode or on the fast one? If there are no electronic scales, I advise you to buy.

YEAST SAF MOMENT 1H L BECKLA IN BASIC MODE. MEASURED PRODUCTS WITH A CUP AND A SPOON FROM THE SET

Write completely the recipe by which the bread was made, otherwise we are talking about something incomprehensible.
If the recipe contains flour in grams, write down how many cups of flour you used

Completely write the recipe according to which the bread was made.
If the recipe contains flour in grams, write down how many cups of flour you used

What yeast did you use, how much was it put in, how the ingredients were measured, baked on the main mode or on the fast one? If there are no electronic scales, I advise you to buy.

ORDINARY WHITE BREAD
RECIPE: SAF YEAST MOMENT 1 CHL
FLOUR 400 GR
SALT 1 CHL
SUGAR 1 ST L
OIL RAST 1 ST L
WATER 260ML

YES FORGOT TO SPECIFY AVERAGE SIZE (L)

[You say measured with a glass. How many cups of flour did you put in the bread?]

Flour 400 gr. (this is for the scales)
You say measured with a glass.
How many cups of flour did you put in the bread?

According to this recipe, bread can be made with closed eyes, it always works.

Write completely the recipe by which the bread was made, otherwise we are talking about something incomprehensible.
If the recipe contains flour in grams, write down how many cups of flour you used

Lenusya, thank you I did everything as you asked. Can I type slowly? I will try to quickly :))
I measured the flour with a glass not from the kit and it turned out to be one glass. What size should you put

Lenusya, thank you I did everything as you asked. Can I type slowly? I will try to quickly :))
I measured the flour with a glass not from the kit and it turned out to be one glass. What size should you put

Yes, maybe I was wrong with the size, Lenusya, how many glasses of flour (from the set) do you need?

This is because you probably measured the flour incorrectly.

If you used a 240 ml glass, then the flour in it is about 140-150 g., I.e. 400 g. flour is about 2.85-3 such a glass.

you say that the glass is from the set, then not from the set

In a glass from the set up to the 300 ml mark. fits about 175-190 grams of flour.
What is the volume of the glass that you used (especially since it is not included in the kit?)

PS I think I'll get confused myself soon

Now I'm confused myself, which means that I was measuring only flour with a glass not from the kit! everything else is a glass from the kit. Here

Now I'm confused myself, which means that I was measuring only flour with a glass not from the kit! everything else is a glass from the kit. Here

t. It turns out that you put a little flour?

According to this recipe, I suggest pouring 2 full glasses from a bread machine (without a slide) and in the process of kneading, add a couple of tablespoons of flour (if necessary) to a bun that does not grease along the bottom. Write down the result and then the recipe will look something like this:

1 tsp yeast
2 glasses + 1-3 tbsp. tablespoons of flour
260 ml water
1 tsp salt
1 tbsp. spoonful of sugar
1 tbsp. spoon rast. oils

Can you weigh 400 grams of flour on your mechanical scale?

Gan,
I noticed that your stove was standing (leveling the temperature) for more than an hour and a half. This is a lot, this happens if the room is about 30 degrees, or even more. At normal room temperature (about 24 degrees), the wait is 25 minutes (minimum).
If the stove thinks that the room is hot (and all the ingredients are also hot), then it gives less time for the dough to rise, and maybe it also changes something.
This feature of Panasonic stoves was discussed here.
If you are going to bake further, pay attention to the temperature of the air, the stove and the ingredients.

P.S. I hope that everything will be fine, but if the wait is more than 30 minutes at room temperature, then it will need to be repaired.

Gan,
I noticed that your stove was standing (leveling the temperature) for more than an hour and a half. This is a lot, this happens if the room is about 30 degrees, or even more. At normal room temperature (about 24 degrees), the wait is 25 minutes (minimum).
If the stove thinks that the room is hot (and all the ingredients are also hot), then it gives less time for the dough to rise, and maybe it also changes something.
This feature of Panasonic stoves was discussed here.
If you are going to bake further, pay attention to the temperature of the air, the stove and the ingredients.

P.S. I hope that everything will be fine, but if the wait is more than 30 minutes at room temperature, then it will need to be repaired.

Thank you very much! I didn't take into account the temperature !!! I'll know!! There are no problems with the river vrodzhe after the first time now kneads in 25 minutes. Maybe getting used to the new owner?) I'll write a review very soon! Thanks again for the advice!

Today we bought a Panasonic 255, they haven’t baked it yet ... But during the examination, the question arose: the bucket is inserted completely without fixation and easily staggers by hand .. Is this normal ??? Or is it a defect ??? ...

[Victor]

P.S. I hope that everything will be fine, but if the wait is more than 30 minutes at room temperature, then it will need to be repaired.

Victor, do not confuse the person.
On the main program at room temperature (and it can be different) the waiting time is 25-60 minutes and there is no need to carry it for repairs.
On the French bread program the waiting time is up to 2 hours (120 minutes). And this is normal, no repairs are required. Read the instructions carefully.

Do not worry there the bayonet type lock is a very reliable design,
a similar principle is used in electronics cables

Everything seems to be clear with the design of the lock, but the question is that the bucket does not lock ... You can turn it counterclockwise with your little finger and the backlash is decent ...

Hello everybody!!! I can’t wait until I bring my stove ... I’ve already made up my mind, to hell with them with the money, I’ll still not find it cheaper, until I order through Kiev, then it will work out ... in my native Donetsk I will take my beauty soon ..... Guys, tell me, I've seen selling yeast and Saf-Levure, Saf-Moment, Pakmaya, and Voronezh baker's yeast, maybe someone will tell you about the latter, otherwise I’m already starting to be procured as crazy. And you can bake bread in the oven, at what temperature ??? I want to buy one more form, a standard brick bread, and bake two breads at once .... Thank you all ... I look forward to your feedback. By the way .... what kind of flour to buy, top grade, right ???

After baking, to get the bucket, turn it slightly counterclockwise.
Don't worry, everything is correct.
Is the first bread ready? How are your impressions?

[hourly]

The kneading force is directed along hourly arrow, so the bucket holds up perfectly.
You are all right.
And to the heap, since you are worried about backlash: do not pay attention to the backlash of the blade on the shaft.

[Victor]

Victor, do not confuse the person.
On the main program at room temperature (and it can be different) the waiting time is 25-60 minutes and there is no need to carry it for repairs.
On the French bread program the waiting time is up to 2 hours (120 minutes). And this is normal, no repairs are required. Read the instructions carefully.

Lenusya, thank you very much! You feel like a pro !!! I did it !!! : wow: The stove is super rrrrr !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Here's something else to try =)) Please advise!

God ... I so want to join you .... while I take my swallow ... so I cry all over .... Everyone is cooking ... so I already bought yeast, I just don’t know the scales ... ? Advise ..... Now treat my whimpers with understanding ... Thank you all for the answers ...

Scales are very necessary especially for a beginner, here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=420.0
Pick up which one is better, my CAS SW-2 is very satisfied! P (^^) q

[Gan]

Lenusya, thank you very much!

Gan, you are always welcome, glad if you could help.
Now you are not afraid of anything, the main thing is to start
Take any recipe from the site and try

Yes ... an interesting question. When I bought it, I didn't think about the dimensions. But it turned out that 53.5 cm is needed to open the lid. I have 50 between the table and the cabinet !!! Now you have to pull it out (and under the very cut of the table - otherwise the bucket does not enter), load the bucket, push it in again. At the same time, there is no heating of the wall cabinet at all. So it won't harm the TV.
If someone is planning to buy such a stove, I advise you to first measure the dimensions of the planned place of residence of the device, since the heights are necessary:
- to open the lid - 535 mm
- for loading a bucket - 570 mm (and this is without stocks, but tightly along the handle of the bucket and through the side of the opening, that is, at a minimum !!!)

Good evening! We tried to bake the cake according to the proportions from the bread maker's recipe, but took only wheat flour (in the original half should be whole flour) and milk instead of juice, the cake climbed high - slammed the dispenser door, and burned somewhere in the last 5-7 minutes .. here the question is why it happened
I do not give the recipe, because it is in the instructions .. maybe for ordinary flour there is a lot of yeast and a lot of time for baking and it was worth baking in the "normal" mode, not "dietary"

To be honest, I don't really like the recipe for Easter cake from the instructions - it's rather dry.
I highly recommend, try "Very tasty Easter cake from Elena Bo":

https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=540.0

the main trick when baking it is to put a light crust and a small size so that the cake is not too tanned.

Bakeries, I have a question!
Which flour is more correct to weigh: not sifted or sifted.
I put the dishes with a sieve on the scales, weigh, for example, 400 grams of flour. And then, after sifting, I put it in a bucket.
Or is it wrong?

Sifted flour and unsifted flour weigh the same, so do as you like. For example, it is more convenient for me to put the bucket on the scales and pour everything right there. This way I do not stain unnecessary dishes and save time.

Yes, I also have no problems, after weighing the container, then pour everything into it ..... very convenient

Thank you, dear ones, I just read somewhere on the forum that sifted flour is easier!

Thank you, dear ones, I just read somewhere on the forum that sifted flour is easier!

If you measured it with glasses, then yes. And if on the scales it makes no difference. Which is heavier than 1kg of cotton wool or 1kg of iron, you asked about the same question.

Hello everybody!!! Girls, I did not notice that in the status I became a seasoned baker !!!! I still have 5 breads on my account ... I really liked it with rye flour ...

Hello girls and boys! I am a newcomer, will you admit to your ranks?
My husband and I respect the Panasonic firm and therefore half of the equipment in the house is their work. On Sunday we bought them x / n sd-255, immediately everyone fell asleep, filled in as in the instructions and began to wait. It works very quietly, which is very important in the presence of 2 children, the case heats up a little more than I would like, but it does not burn (again, children). While the first bread was being baked, I decided to boredom for the sake of looking into no, went to a good site and realized that I would have to throw out the bread. So many subtleties, cat. not in the instructions !!!
First, the watchmen recommended to lay the food on the contrary, that is, everything is liquid, sugar-salts in the corners, flour in a heap, a hole in a hill, yeast in a hole.
Secondly, me. naive, measured the flour with a glass from the kit, and it’s for water, it’s in milliliters! and flour in grams; that's why scales are needed, and not only for beginners (as indicated by previous speakers). Lovers of exotic onion-cheese-raisins will come in handy. While I am twisting with a glass and a measuring table from the book, but the purchase of the scales has already been planned.
Thirdly, and this is the most important thing, if there are no scales, is the control of the kolobok. Despite the prohibitive screams of the instructions, the lid must be opened at the time of the start of the batch and react to what you saw there. If there is slush, it will not fly with flour. Add little by little, carefully scoop flour from the walls down with a spatula. If scraps of dough fly in all directions, then it will be short with water (or a flight with flour ?!). These are the pies with kittens, guys!

[16071979]

16071979, I always put the yeast down, flour on top and then everything else in any order. I remember someone experimented with bookmarks, it does not affect the result, but when the flour is on top, then when kneading it becomes more dusty and gets more onto the heating element.
Good luck and delicious bread.

I am writing a sequel to my epic, no, a novel with x / n.
Naturally, my firstborn did not work out. Just toasted porridge. I was not upset at all, I knew that the next one would be great. I barely waited for the stove to cool down and set to work. In short, at half past three in the night I was awakened by the wild, mind-blowing smell of bread. Guys, he is such a beautiful, handmade bread !!! Unfortunately, for some reason it didn't occur to me to take a picture of him in the middle of the night, and in the morning ... he was gone! Even bragging at work was nothing!
So while I'm stuffing my hand on plain white, there will be scales - I will throw myself into a pool of bread with additives.
By the way, about flour. Probably, you will shower me with tattered slippers, but I bake on the one that the Motherland gives. And she gives me a ration per month, including 18 kg of 1st grade flour (this is gray).No manufacturer, no expiration date, and in general, is it bakery? And it turns out SUPER !!!!

bake on the one that the Motherland gives. And she gives me a ration per month, including 18 kg of 1st grade flour (this is gray). No manufacturer, no expiration date, and in general, is it bakery? And it turns out SUPER !!!!

I want the flour of your homeland)) It is on flour of 1 - 2 grades that the most aromatic and delicious bread is obtained (if everything is in order with gluten).

Great! It also gave me a ride with flour ?! : wow: Because of her, in fact, we bought Pan-echka, imagining how much useful area in the apartment the monthly added flour will take. The solution was obscenely simple: hide it in the stomach in the form of bread.

Prompt to put baking paper in the form? This is not the first time that the sides of white bread will burn. What to do? Can I get bread out of HB earlier?

, what recipe do you bake?
Usually in Panasonic it burns from a large amount of sugar, milk powder, fat, etc. e. muffins

Prompt to put baking paper in the form? This is not the first time that the sides of white bread will burn. What to do? Can I get bread out of HB earlier?

It is recommended in the instructions to put baking paper when baking muffins. Otherwise, bake bread without paper. And the color of the crust, that is, the roastiness, can be varied by choosing the size (smaller size - less fried) and, in fact, the color of the crust

Hello! I'm a complete beginner! HP is my first day. baked the main bread - dared in half an hour. very successful. At the request of the family, she fell asleep in French. I started to set the program, and clicked on the wrong buttons. I suffer for half an hour - how to reset incorrectly set settings? even a complete disconnection from the network does not contribute to the reset. When turned on, old stupid settings are displayed Tell me what to do?