Choosing a built-in oven

Ariston disgraced himself - he released some kind of ruler without a lower heater at all

orrrrrrginal! we also need a slogan: buy an airfryer for the price of an oven!

[Serenity]

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For example, here are some discussions. In short:

The whole LUCE series of Ariston suffers from this garbage. As they explain, a powerful ring heating element is installed and the air flow from the convector in a large volume is directed downward - supposedly this compensates for the lower heating. Although the total connected power of 2800 W raises questions about the veracity of such statements. What is typical - in budget models (retro for example) there is a lower heating element.

Added Saturday 24 Dec 2016 02:10

Serenity, exactly!

kseniya D, I remember, I was in the heat and completely freaked out, even rocking some instructions. I did not find any mention of the joint work of two heating elements.

[Linen]

Linen, I haven't watched the instruction for a long time. I just don't have a badge with a separate designation for the upper or lower heating element. Drawn together with and without a fan. There is a separate inclusion of the upper grill. You need to look at the instructions, otherwise I always cook on one and
the same modes.

Dear members of the forum, share your experience, and yet, if the oven is built in to the side of the hood, we will not suffocate when cleaning with pyrolysis? Are the oven walls getting hot? The glasses seem to be protected, but the top and sides?

I have no pyrolysis. The sides, top and bottom do not heat up.

[jslada]

jslada, I have an oven with pyrolysis, it is located at a distance of about 3 meters from the hood, we are not suffocating. If you turn on the cleaning regularly, then there is no special smoke, that is, I can be quite calmly around. The side walls are slightly warm and the glass is hot, but not hot enough to burn. Now I will look for a photo of my kitchen, I showed it in the relevant topic, and I will transfer it here.



Extractor hood above the hob:

[Cvetaal]

Bigger, virgins! I am also now with the oven! Then I'll buy something professional into the apartment, and the Electrolux with pyrolysis and steam has already been delivered to the house! I will keep warm with pastries, otherwise the dressing room in the kitchen was not done, it can be chilly.
Well, and gas. the triple panel with a triple crown Italian took 45 cm in order to save space on the tabletop.

Added Friday, 30 Dec 2016 02:45

Cvetaalhow harmonious you are! And what is the order !!!!

Olya, thank you, I love an empty countertop, but at the moment everything is overwhelmed, two multi-sticks are working, a slow one, and there is a goose maker on the cooking stove, I'm getting ready for NG

Congratulations on the new thing, let it serve for a long time without breakdowns !!!

[Cvetaal]

Cvetaal, thanks, Svetochka! Well, mine is so empty too ... exactly two days after the general cleaning! Do you have magnets hanging on the front wall?

Yes, magnets from trips))), this wall is now completely lined with bricks, a magnetic board made of ikea. I have all the refrigerators in the pantry, so we cling here, in plain sight)))

In short, this is not even discussed and I do not want to waste ink - the oven at chest level is more convenient. Wherever her door opened. Dot.

And print !! +1000000
I won't put it down anymore! Only at the level! safer and more convenient, you start cooking even more in the oven! And if there was still a double boiler, then the more you need to set it higher in order to use the opportunities more often.

And print !!

And printing.

you start cooking even more in the oven!

Oh you too idler perfectionist?))

Oh, are you a perfectionist quitter too?))

And then !!! Still need to look for such! Do you smell your kindred spirit?
Now I’m just messing around! True, they haven't connected the new one yet ...

[Cvetaal]

Cvetaal, thank you for the answer, I calmed down, otherwise I read everyone ...

[Rada-dms]

Rada-dms, with new clothes you! With a new assistant! May serve faithfully for the joy of a wonderful hostess

Hello! I choose an oven with a microwave function in order to save space. Does anyone use such a unit? My mother has a Samsung with recessed handles, for meat, poultry, it is excellent, but somehow I did not succeed with baking: on the one hand it burns, on the other it is not baked (but this is when the whole baking sheet is occupied, for example, with muffins, all sorts of charlottes, which is strictly in the middle put - more or less). Therefore, I want to put myself to another company, I consider it as an option KULINARISK from ikea, like they write that this is a full-fledged oven, since there is a function "bottom heating". In any case, I will be glad to any advice and feedback regarding such units

Cooking. = Ikeevsky Electrolux.

I have Grensleos.
There, the heating of the lower ten is present. To fully understand the functions, you need to download the pdf files from the page (on the Ikea website) Cookery (look for the blue inscription "downloaded files)

I baked pizza and bread, no convection, my oven bakes equally. I didn't bake the biscuit.

I have already read the instructions for cooking "diagonally", now I will look to Grensles. But most of all I'm not interested in the presence of different heaped up modes, but whether it will fully work like the most ordinary oven. Therefore, reviews of real people cannot be replaced by any instructions, thanks for sharing your experience)

I have a cook, a pyrolysis model. There is not much heat in it yet, but I am satisfied with the result, there is no regret about the purchase. On the top and bottom heating mode, muffins were baked. The one that was closer to the door had to be pushed inward, as there was a feeling that it was rising a little worse. I baked the gingerbread cookies on the whole baking sheet yesterday - they were all the same, they were evenly browned. At least they didn't look like it was burning on one side and damp on the other. She baked potatoes with meat, also baked with a beautiful crust.

[pie]

pie, I am interested in exactly the combined oven + microwave, and the model with pyrolysis, as I understand it, is an ordinary oven

[pie]

pie, I am interested in exactly the combined oven + microwave, and the model with pyrolysis, as I understand it, is an ordinary oven

Although it is not my cookery oven, but I initially looked at it myself, there are modes: BOTTOM separately and UP + BOTTOM ..
My Grenslös also an ordinary oven, without a microwave.

Yesterday I heated rice (from 15 degrees to hot) for about 1 hour (first 60 degrees, then 150) in a closed glass mold (rice was about 1.5 kg) on ​​convection. In a multicooker, this amount warms up in 15-20 minutes or faster.

I looked at the KULINARISKA (Microwave + Oven) instructions there also are modes: BOTTOM and UP + BOTTOM

pie, I am interested in the combined oven + microwave, and the model with pyrolysis, as I understand it, is an ordinary oven

So there are a lot of models, most of them have pyrolysis, the only question is the price.

Bigger, virgins! I am also now with the oven! Then I'll buy something professional into the apartment, and the Electrolux with pyrolysis and steam has already been delivered to the house! I will keep warm with pastries, otherwise the dressing room in the kitchen was not done, it can be chilly.
Well, and gas. the triple panel with a triple crown Italian took 45 cm in order to save space on the tabletop.

Congratulations on your purchase !! The new oven is such a thrill !!)))

What professional would you like for yourself?

Why pyrolysis? There is a miracle remedy Shumanit and Scrubman Antizhir. Any soot is perfectly cleaned, however, after Shumanit the smell remains inside for a long time, but after Scrubman it does not. Well, if there is no bias towards household chemicals or allergy sufferers. I did not even consider pyrolysis.

Why pyrolysis? There is a miracle remedy Shumanit and Scrubman Antizhir. Any soot is perfectly cleaned, however, after Shumanit, the smell remains inside for a long time, but after Scrubman it does not.Well, if there is no bias towards household chemicals or allergy sufferers. I did not even consider pyrolysis.

Pyrolysis is needed if there is a preconceived notion about regularly polishing the oven with your own hands with the loss of your own time, and what wonderful means are used does not matter.

And especially if the oven is installed under the table, and not at chest level. Climbing, sorry, cancer, around, smelling vapors of alkali, then another hobby, splendidly for an amateur. ((
I have a high and I do not like to clean. Plus, the lattices peel off from alkalis and even the base of the heating element rusted after the first time. ((

[Exocat]

Models with microwave can be bought for 45-55 thousand, and if pyrolysis is also there, then already 85 ((the first price is too high for me, but the microwave can only be shoved into the upper cabinets, and this is inconvenient, so I'll scrape it up. is also necessary, so the presence of pyrolysis in the oven does not cancel washing work

Added on Tuesday 10 Jan 2017 09:44 PM

Exocat, I know that there are quite a lot of models with microwave ovens, but there are much more conventional ovens, and for some reason people discuss and consult them here. Because the instructions will not write that it bakes badly, on the one hand it burns, the temperature is too high, and similar jambs. And in the reviews for some models, declared by the manufacturers as an oven with a microwave, they write that this is a lie and this is just a fancy micra in its device. Ikeev's models are called "combined microwave", so I'm looking for reviews of real people who, so to speak, understand the issue. Not all people who put 5 stars on the Yandex market cook anything in the oven except meat and fish

Models with microwave can be bought for 45-55 thousand, and if pyrolysis is also there, then already 85 ((the first price is too high for me, but the microwave can only be shoved into the upper cabinets, and this is inconvenient, so I'll scrape it up. It is also necessary, so the presence of pyrolysis in the oven does not cancel washing work Added Today at 21: 44Exocat, I know that there are quite a few models with microwave ovens, but there are much more conventional ovens, and for some reason people are discussing and consulting them here. the instructions will not write that it bakes badly, on the one hand it burns, the temperature is overestimated, etc. And in the reviews for some models declared by the manufacturers as an oven with a microwave, they write that this is a lie and it is just a fancy micra in its device. Ikeev's models are called "combined microwave", so I'm looking for reviews of real people who, so to speak, understand the issue. Not all people who put 5 stars on the Yandex market cook anything in the oven except meat and fish

Sorry, but I completely misunderstood this statement. For 10 years of using my oven with microwave and pyrolysis, I have never washed it. She collected the ashes and wiped them thoroughly with a wet cloth. And no cleaning work. I have no complaints about my Bosch.
And even now I am also choosing a new oven for another apartment, and I understand that I can't afford the current prices for the same functionality. Therefore, I will give up the microwave, but not pyrolysis. And here's why: because I need a reliable, comfortable oven, and pyrolysis gives a big indirect advantage in terms of both technology and materials, since it requires a temperature of 400-500 degrees.

and pyrolysis gives a large indirect advantage in the quality of both technology and materials, since it requires a temperature of 400-500 degrees.

I thought so too, until my NEFF broke down in December, by the way, in pyrolysis mode, now I'm waiting for a spare part from Germany. And repairs will cost me 20 thousand.

Exocat from Today at 22: 19a pyrolysis gives a large indirect advantage in quality of both technology and materials, since it requires a temperature of 400-500 degrees. I thought so too, until my NEFF broke down in December, by the way, in pyrolysis mode, now I'm waiting for a spare part from Germany. And repairs will cost me 20 thousand.

Everything breaks and always, I put up with it. It's about statistics.

[Exocat]

Exocat, I meant that if I take two devices separately: an oven with pyrolysis and a microwave oven, then the microwave will still have to be washed, and also climbed up, because there is no place for it on the countertop. In general, of course, pyrolysis is a cool thing, I'll still think, maybe I might not buy an oven right away, but dig up and buy this helicopter, so that both microwave and pyrolysis ...

Exocat, I meant that if I take two devices separately: an oven with pyrolysis and a microwave oven, then the microwave will still have to be washed, and also climbed up, because there is no place for it on the countertop. In general, of course, pyrolysis is a cool thing, I'll still think, maybe I might not buy an oven right away, but dig up and buy this helicopter, so that both microwave and pyrolysis ...

And I still really want steam. 160 thousand Bosch Siemens has such ...

[Exocat]

Exocat, I don't want steam yet, since I'm not a particularly sophisticated chef and don't even really know the purpose of such an option, but the ability to never wash the oven puts a lot of pressure on my laziness

[Exocat]

Exocat, I don't want steam yet, since I'm not a particularly sophisticated chef and don't even really know the purpose of such an option, but the ability to never wash the oven puts a lot of pressure on my laziness

Steam is needed for baking bread and cooking some dishes.

[Ludmila]

Ludmila, Electrolux look, they have such a model. Also not cheap, but cheaper than Bosch.

And yet, does anyone use a two-in-one oven + microwave?

[Tutti-frutt]

Tutti-frutt, I have used a compact oven with a micro Neff for 10 years, my mother-in-law uses a full-size Siemens. It's okay!

appliance two in one oven + microwave?

I've been using it for 10 years! I have LG SolarDOM, though not built-in, but stand-alone. Convenient, both micro and convection, can be switched on separately, can be combined.

Finally, I recently sorted out and began to bake on the bottom heat and intense heat mode, and, finally, both the bottom and sides of the breads and pies became the same ruddy as the top.

I have the same molds, then I "shot" to the temperature regime (the top is baked, the bottom is white) shifted the grate lower, and most of the "baking" time I used the lower e-mail. ovens.
Next time I'll try to lower the grille down one "tooth" and turn it up and down.
Margot, what recipe was used to bake bread? turned out beautiful ...
Are you going to cook the molds? If not, then what do you grease and sprinkle with? And then I got a hit today (4th baking in total))), it's not a hunt for molds to heat, they get a painfully unsightly look afterwards. Before the first (in his life) pastry he anointed with Rast. butter, buns flew out with a bang. Then he began to experiment with dry flour, the same slipped through a couple of times ... And today (really, the best enemy of the good))) the kneading, I feel it was a success - for greater beauty, before the proofing, I fiddled over the future crust, but you see, I went too far ... In general, the loaf was baked, and there was no way to jump out, I had to deal with sparing "resuscitation" in order to save both the bread and the molds .. now I think we must return to butter.
and another question, along the way, who will tell you why the bread "blows" (tears off) the "roof" (crust)?
At the first stage, I don't seem to "raise" the baking temperature, I bake on it for about 20 minutes, and then I often turn on the lower ends. Maybe I'm doing something wrong with the dough? but everything seems to be in gramme-seconds ... (
PS> If something goes wrong, please do not kick too much. In this craft (fascinating, I will note to you)) .. I plunged just like a week or so. And on this site, it’s in general, still very useful (only yesterday I came across it) in search of a solution to my problems.

[Mixer]

Mixer, try looking for an answer to your question about the "roof" of bread here

I also have an oven with a Miele microwave, my question is - how to use the microwave + oven options (grill, convection, etc.)? I won't master it 😳

[Anchic]

Anchic,
Thank you!

Girls, good afternoon!
My electric oven has broken. We urgently need a new one, because canceling orders will not be very nice in front of customers!
Please help with a choice!
The oven is needed for biscuits and yeast baked goods!
The husband says, go choose!
But the oven, then a hard worker, you cannot be mistaken with the choice!

Girls, good afternoon!
My electric oven has broken. We urgently need a new one, because canceling orders will not be very nice in front of customers!
Please help with the choice!
The oven is needed for biscuits and yeast baked goods!
The husband says, go choose!
But the oven, then a hard worker, you cannot be mistaken with the choice!

I am not a specialist in cooking for orders.

I baked biscuit once, pizza twenty times and yeast bread in tins.

In her Ikeevskaya Grensles (produces Electrolux for Ikea), I did not notice any deviations in ruddy and one-sidedness.

The biscuit was also baked in the form, like bread ...
But I baked pies with cabbage on baking sheets ...

Everything is on the UP + BOTTOM mode, convection on the baking gives one edge more ruddy (the one near the fan) ...

Shortbread cookies on convection, too, at the fan blush faster ...
But in the UP + BOTTOM mode I did not observe this ...

Does anyone use a two-in-one oven + microwave?

I've been using Fornelli Duetto for about a year now
initially chose because there is not much space in the kitchen, especially the work surface
and this model is fully built-in and compact
plus I was very pleased with the price (somewhere around 10 thousand cheaper than Bosch was then)
more often I just use it as a microwave, but it also works great in oven mode

Good evening !
Bought an AEG oven.
Sooo happy !!!
I always thought that I had tall and lush biscuits .... It turns out I was mistaken! Now I know what tall biscuits are !!!

Here I am to you for advice. It's time to purchase a built-in oven. And my adventures began ...
My husband and I were just confused.
Only today we were praised by ZANUSI ZOB53811CR and Gorenie 635E11.
My daughter has Electrolux 4230, she is happy, but I do not see them on sale.
Please advise. Otherwise there is no strength to choose already ...
The main thing is to bake well. Well, and the view to be decent.

Hello!
I love my oven!
The biscuits are very tall.
On the residual heat, dry meringues, pasta, nuts.
Convection, steam convection ...
And what cakes were for Easter. Customers continued to order them all week after the holiday, because the fame about them spread far ...
I have an AEG oven.

[Tatyana]

Tatyanaand which model?

Does anyone have inexpensive Ikeevsky ovens REALISTISK and TENLIG? The instructions on the site say that this is a whirlpool. How are they in quality, bake though?