Bijou
Oh, I see. That is, the machine mows? I have a simple, solid mechanics. So it's easier to adjust.)
Mila Sweetheart
Vei, thanks, otherwise it is impossible to insert a picture. I really hope for the help of members of the forum. What to choose between the Ariston FTK 850 OW (Ariston PC 640 t ow surface) and GORENJE BO 73 CLI. Also of this color FORNELLI FEA 60 MERLETTO IVORY (surface of FORNELLI PGA 60 GRAZIA IVORY). A completely unknown manufacturer.
And here's another quite budget option Darina 1U6 BDE111 707Bg
Vei
Quote: Bijou
when convection is turned on, it is necessary to lower the set temperature by 10-20 degrees to avoid overheating.
by the way, how many times in recipes I saw that the oven was at a temperature of 180C, if on convection it was 160C. I don't see this in my convection, in the sense that you need to lower the temperature so much, if I bake one baking sheet, then I try not to turn on this mode at all, it's better just top-bottom, it bakes better, but somehow I don't have convection blows everywhere.
kseniya D
Mila Sweetheart, I have Ariston and the oven and cooking are like that. This is the second time I have taken this stamp. The first set worked for 12 years and we sold it together with the kitchen before renovation. The current one has been operating for 2.5 years. I'm happy with the cooking. such an arrangement of the comforts is very convenient for me, because voluminous pots and pans stand up. In the standard arrangement, the pan and pan will not stand next to it. I'm also happy with the oven. I didn’t buy a fancy model on purpose, because I know that in the end I will use a couple of programs. I don’t bake to order, only for the family. Yeast baked goods, bread, biscuits, muffins are great baked. I bake biscuits in a multicooker, I haven't even tried it in the oven, there are no suitable forms. Easy to clean.
Mila Sweetheart
kseniya D, Thank you. And then you get lost from conflicting reviews. Whether they are real or not is unknown. Many people complain about the timer, which quickly fails. Do you use it in general? I would also like to bake biscuits in it.
kseniya D
I do not use the timer, I did not even delve into how to use it. For bread I use a meat thermometer, Ikeevsky, it turned out to be a very convenient thing. I used to use a conventional mechanical timer.
Mila Sweetheart
kseniya D, and what kind of thermometer is so interesting?
Bijou
Mila Sweetheart, if you really buy Ariston, then this one can. I looked at the photo, it has a Top + Bottom program. )) And some of his brothers who are more abruptly do not. There are only automatic programs, and even the upper heater does not exist in nature, like that.
NAR
I have been choosing for almost 2 months. in the end, after reading a lot of reviews, and decided to buy Electrolux from the zankomye, and I was not mistaken .. tttt doovlna. bakes everything evenly .. overall I'm happy .. choose between Ariston
Mila Sweetheart
NAR, Ivory-colored electroluxes did not come across. And I kind of stopped at it. I order a kitchen. I haven't decided on the color. So far, I'm choosing kitchen appliances.
kseniya D
Quote: Mila Sweetheart
and what kind of thermometer is so interesting?
This 🔗
Choosing a built-in oven

You set the temperature you need and when you set the set temperature, it beeps loudly.
NAR
Quote: Mila Sweetheart

NAR, Ivory-colored electroluxes did not come across. And I kind of stopped at it. I order a kitchen. I haven't decided on the color. So far, I'm choosing kitchen appliances.
I have a red kitchen, silver or black, I chose .. and I'm happyChoosing a built-in oven
Umka
NAR, have you been using the red kitchen for a long time ??? Doesn't press ???
NAR
Quote: Umka19

NAR, have you been using the red kitchen for a long time ??? Doesn't press ???

since the summer. no, just happy, I have a tablecloth curtains in white peas so cozy .. rosy
Bijou
Quote: NARa
I have a white pea curtain tablecloth so cozy ..

Umka
NAR, thank you very much for your reply!!!
Mila Sweetheart
kseniya D, thanks, you need to pay attention to it. Is it constantly in the oven or is the temperature measured during the cooking process?
Mila Sweetheart
NAR, beautiful cuisine. I wanted something classic. Yours is very smart and cozy at the same time. But a black countertop is probably not practical.
kseniya D
Mila Sweetheart, the needle sticks into bread, meat, or whatever you want to cook. The timer with a magnet is attached outside, so I hang it on the refrigerator, which is next to it, or on the oven door. On the left, the temperature in the product is shown, and on the right is the one that you have programmed. Use yu only during cooking.
NAR
Quote: Mila Sweetheart

NAR, beautiful cuisine. I wanted something classic. Yours is very smart and cozy at the same time. But a black countertop is probably not practical.

Very practical, believe me .. not one speck .. rubbed it and that's it ..
Bijou
Quote: NARa
Very practical, believe me .. not one speck .. rubbed it and that's it ..

No, well, if you wipe it, then no one will have a single speck. Here's how not to wipe and clean? ...
NAR
Quote: Bijou


No, well, if you wipe it, then no one will have a single speck. Here's how not to wipe and clean? ...
Before that, I had a light, this flour, and a black buzz)) it will not get dirty so quickly when I took the black stove panel, they also threatened me that they were soiled, but no, they were wrong.
Bijou
Yes, I agree. )) The very black enamel gas cooker sometimes feels mine - I don't see dirt with my eyes.
But on glossy black glass ceramics, every crown and hair is visible, yes.
NAR
Quote: Bijou

Yes, I agree. )) The very black enameled gas cooker sometimes feels mine - I don't see dirt with my eyes.
But on glossy black glass ceramics, every crown and hair is visible, yes.

since childhood I dreamed of a red kitchen))) I don’t know why))) but in the future when I will change I will do Provence)
Tusya
There is a choice of building. Complete renovation of the kitchen, with the replacement of furniture. Money, respectively, end-to-end. What say about 🔗 Price 17000. It seems the functionality is good. Or is it better to look even more?
Bijou
With such functionality for such money, does it even happen at all ??))
I do not know how this is implemented, but it is written beautifully, even the telescopes are indicated and there is a ring heater.

The weakest for my taste is the mirror surface. At one time Ariston abused this, so there were complaints, they say, you can't let go of a rag. But maybe you will put it on the level of the chest, and not under the cooking room, then it should be easier with care.
Tusya
Here is the glass facade 🔗 The same price.
Iriska
Dear! No one has come across such an oven: "Electric oven Gorenje BO658A31XG". On sale in M-Video, the price is 39890 rubles?
Umka
Bijou, Lena, good evening!!!

I'm all mad about today ...
SIEMENS HB78GU570 - about this DSh they said that I will have to leave my studio (together with animals and children) to use the pyrolysis function ...
Electrolux EOC 5851 AOX - about this one, that since they began to assemble it in Ukraine, the walls became much thinner and the DSh burns out almost immediately after the guarantor. term ...
Then there were a couple of SIEMENS and Electrolux models ... etc., etc., in the end they said that in the DSH Asko OT 8636 S is a class, and I already wrote PMM in the subject ... Vot, anger mine is missing ...
Bijou
Quote: Umka19
SIEMENS HB78GU570 - about this DSh they said that I will have to leave my studio (together with animals and children) to use the pyrolysis function ...

Duc can not be used. But in general, all pyrolysis works the same - the longer you don't clean the oven and the more you stain it, the more it stinks. There were reviews that with a regular procedure, without bringing the cabinet to complete indecency, quite a few odors are formed, the hood copes. No, there seem to be ovens with installed odor filters, but I did not delve into the model, or how effective and how long it works. It seems that all filters are mortal ...

About the Suites, yes, even I have come across all kinds of garbage lately. I have an old Hungarian or something ..I have no complaints at all! (t-t-t, so that I can live at least as much, my smart girl)
louisa
girls, please tell me, is convection in the oven really so necessary, necessary? Or is it quite possible to do without it?
Cvetaal
Umka19, Lyudmila, I have an oven with NEFF pyrolysis, we don't feel any discomfort, the smell is very weak, the hood copes, and the oven is always as good as new

Vei
Quote: louisa
convection in the oven is so necessary, necessary
I find this mode very useful, especially if you are baking something pastry or on several levels.
I basically only use two modes:
- convection
- top + bottom heating

all the rest pampered and that's it. But if I were constantly baking bread, then my modes of convection plus steam, would be the same in demand. And for meat, I do not use steam, since I bake it mainly in a bag, everything is juicy and with a crust there.
louisa
Quote: Vei
if you bake something pastry
rarely
Quote: Vei
or at several levels.
never at all, in general, I can do without it?
Vei
I mainly bake meat on convection, but it's up to you, I have not seen more or less decent ovens without convection, this is not pyrolysis or steam. These are already must-have programs for modern ovens, even with very limited functionality.
Umka
Cvetaal, Svetlana, thanks for your reply. I have an oven in a free-standing pencil case, which is far from the hood ...
louisa
Quote: Vei
I have not seen more or less decent ovens without convection,
the price differs by 5-6 thousand with and without covection, but I need to buy a lot of equipment for a child, that every thousand counts, I don't think she will often use it, that's why such a question arose, is it possible to save money on the oven buy another iron
Cvetaal
Quote: Umka19

I have an oven in a free-standing pencil case, which is far from the hood ...
and I'm not close
Choosing a built-in oven

louisa
Cvetaal, you have a very beautiful kitchen, but could you show the facades closer
Umka
Quote: Cvetaal
and I'm not close
Svetlana, sorry, I forgot ... henceforth I promise to improve

Svetlana, I remember how your gorgeous kitchen impressed me !!!
Cvetaal
Louise, I showed the kitchen in another topic

https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=1366.0), bottom - beech, top - glass.
Choosing a built-in oven



Umka19, Lyudmila
Natali_ka
Hi everyone, I found just such a built-in electric oven in M. video
The characteristics are pleasing to the eye - some advantages - pyrolysis cleaning, made in France, 2 years warranty? 4-layer glass, 8 programs, max. heating temperature 275 degrees and others.
I think what's the catch? Maybe 3385 W in power consumption? I do not understand anything about this.
But the price is now 12300, I'm ready to go to buy, what do you say?

Here is the model - Brandt FP1061B

There are no reviews, I have never heard such a company. What do you think, a gamble?
Bellamy
Quote: louisa
the price differs thousand by 5-6 with and without covection

In what price range are you looking for an oven? Is there something in mind already?
Bijou
Quote: Bellamy
Is there something in mind already?
Weird question. Well, of course, Fornelli, what else could it be ?! Or is it Brandt?
Bellamy
Quote: Bijou
Weird question. Well, of course, Fornelli, what else could it be ?! Or is it Brandt?

Apparently I do not understand your subtle sarcasm ... Moreover, my question was not addressed to you. Or is it strange to you that someone can buy equipment other than Bosch and electrolux?
Bijou
No, it’s strange to me, with what joy it is suddenly the advertisers of this brand on different forums simultaneously activated.))
louisa
Bellamy, looked Bosch and Electrolux, but still only looked closely, I still have a lot of time before installation.
Natali_ka
Quote: Bijou

No, it’s strange to me, with what joy it is suddenly the advertisers of this brand on different forums simultaneously activated.))

I'm not an advertiser, I choose appliances for the kitchen, Brandt is an unknown company to me, it's just that the price killed me 12 thousand for an oven with such functions, so I asked here.

And about the gas one, the same Belami wrote to me that he had fornelli.I trusted the class, I take it))

Bijou, I don’t understand how to distinguish a real person from an advertiser on a forum. And in technology, when choosing, I also do not want to be mistaken and I also cannot afford an oven for 50-60 thousand. Sorry for the many letters.
Bijou
Quote: Natali_ka
I'm not an advertiser, I choose appliances for the kitchen, Brandt is an unknown company to me, it's just that the price killed me 12 thousand for an oven with such functions, so I asked here.

And about the gas one, the same Belami wrote to me that he had fornelli. I trusted the class, I take it))
So you don't go alone now, you increase your "skill", so to speak.)) And such unexpected members of the forum, who suddenly registered on the forum with a specific purpose, differ very easily. Even if, before the target post, they write 20 messages in other topics or let the registration rest for a month or two.

Everything, it was nice to meet you.
Bellamy
Quote: Bijou

No, it’s strange to me, with what joy it is suddenly the advertisers of this brand on different forums simultaneously activated.))

You seem to be a pro at distinguishing advertisers from users. But excuse me for buying a Fornelly technique and daring to write about it here.
It's the first time I've ever heard of Brandt's technique.
And who is where it has become active, I do not know

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