Choosing a built-in oven

Oh, girls, I felt about "washing" on my oven !!! Out of joy, instead of washing, she began to bake in it, like a madman, as a result, after 10 days the marriage got out and had to be changed to another. It was then that I realized that I hadn't washed it -; (well, when I brought a new one, then I got it - :))))

Oh, girls, I felt about "washing" on my oven !!!

That's when I realized that I hadn't washed

Here !!! Bad for HP will not advise !!!

[Ludmila]

Ludmila, but the card had no money, and we have no ATMs. And what if payment in cash, would they refuse to bring another "in case of something wrong"?
I'm basically thinking, or maybe I'll buy another one. And if I refuse to take them, will they put me on the black list of unreliable?
And I also have a pickup, but can I order delivery on the spot? I just haven't dealt with MVideo before.

[Inna]

"in case of something wrong"

Inna, you have a pickup, respectively, you will see and examine it in reality in the store. It meant that it was not bent / not scratched / glass not cracked, etc., etc.

will they put me on the black list of unreliable?

I don't know the answer to this question.
All my life. For a very long time I chose / nurtured / "tortured" the specialists on different sites, and therefore when I ordered it and waited, I could not see the way back ...

I just haven't dealt with MVideo before

But you have a map of this store.
In this store, I only bought a Miele vacuum cleaner. I bought the rest of the equipment for a new apartment in IM, where there was the lowest price for the model I was interested in. Not everyone had a pickup, and delivery to me from Moscow costs 1000-2000, and since I'm used to saving money, I squander money for extra. I'm not used to delivery. It's just that all the technique / models that I chose: induction. panel, oven, refrigerator, PMM, washer - they are not sold in E, MV, MM after the beginning of the crisis ... why? I don't know the answers to these questions, but I guess.
Then it's up to you to decide / choose !!!

IM E, MV, MM

Decipher! Hic, slower current, I will record

[Olga VB]

Decipher! Ik, the current is slower

Olga VB, sorry, I thought everyone knew ...
IM - online store
E - Eldorado
MV - MVideo
MM - Media Markt

[Ludmila]

Ludmila, store map, yes there is, I meant that I did not deal with online purchases in this particular store.
Regarding the touch - consider - that's how many where I bought, in E, MM, MV - sellers unanimously repeat, well, why print? The product has been checked, and you can safely submit all claims with you for 2 weeks for a return and a year of warranty. Everywhere they say so! I think they will generally get rid of big equipment to print. If they are mischievous, I will not take it. Because we take the oven to mom, she lives in the village, it is problematic to bring it there and the installation will only take place at the end of February, when the kitchen is ready. DS will be in the box for two months.

[proshka]

proshkaI was also worried when buying kitchen appliances, I did not sleep at night. Still, we buy for a long time, I want to keep within the money, and be satisfied with the result.
For the first time in my life, I made a serious purchase via the Internet ... My oven model was sold only in E. Buying through IM gave a good discount, plus they had some kind of anniversary promotion. In short, the oven for 36990 in the store cost me only 29990 through THEM !!!
And then I again send thanks to Lenochka-Bijou, she suggested where people hang out exactly on the subject of technology, and there they taught that one should not be afraid, but one should demand to unpack it with you!
Out of fear, I also ordered self-pickup.I arrived at the store on the appointed day, made sure that the oven was from the warehouse, no one objected to me and calmly completely unpacked it. I looked at Her, checked that the glass pan was intact, the catalytic guides were not scratched. Then they turned on the network and I checked that the sensor is working, it switches.
There are 14 days to replace the unused one, and 30 days - if suddenly a marriage. Repair, zarraza, everything did not want to end, they just put the oven on the table and actively used it. Within 10 days, the marriage got out, I'm in shock! The promotions are over, and within 30,000 I can only buy an older model than mine. And will they change It in general? They will be taken away for repairs ...
I called, they came, drew up an act and took her away, I followed to the store ... I didn't want to take the same one from the window. They ordered it to me again through IM, after 5 days they brought it.
I wrote to you for so long so that you breathe evenly, calmly inspect everything in the store, and use Her immediately without furniture.
Happy shopping !!!

[Tatyana]

TatyanaThank you for sharing your experience. Here's to poyuzat it before the installation in the kitchen, well, no way! She will stay in my apartment for two months and I don’t live there now. The kitchen will arrive and only then will we take it. You puzzled me a lot, probably I will refuse to buy. You will have to buy before installing the kitchen, but what can you find according to your requirements and at an affordable price?

[proshka]

proshka, Well ! I wanted the best, it worked out ... as always - :(
Don't jump to conclusions.
Talk to your mom.

Mom is an elderly person and she does not know all these subtleties. She doesn't understand.

Mom is an elderly person and she does not know all these subtleties. She doesn't understand.

I would put it temporarily directly on the countertop to check the work!

To be honest, I had it and was planned to be installed on the table, without furniture and built-in.
I already suspected before buying that downstairs, it is not particularly convenient.

And after installing it on the countertop (I have it on thin boards and rigidly attached to the wall with a log), I am only glad that I don't have to bend over for hot dishes.

And the steam from the door does not fly into the face, but a little higher. But I still open it carefully, expecting a steam release! Steam is not noticeable in the oven!

I paid for my order. There were moments that were incomprehensible to me - they sent an SMS that the order had arrived, I arrived at the store and said that the cabinet was from the window. We did not agree on the exhibition sample, they offered a 5% discount. I have never taken exhibition samples, I am afraid of them, they touch them all in a row. I do not want. Then they said to wait until tomorrow. Why not call and say that the product is from the window?
Further, since I ordered with self-pickup, and then decided to pay extra for delivery, they said that it was impossible - delivery had to be ordered immediately. I didn’t know how to do this over long distances of 70 km, I thought they wouldn’t be lucky, so I ordered self-pickup.
Then they said do not buy online, we will cancel the online order. I paid. The discount on Lyudmila's promo code was canceled. They will bring it tomorrow.
Here live and learn.
The site lists the enamel for easy cleaning, and in the store the seller told and showed that you can clean it with steam, there is also a notch in the form of a saucer. So you can also bake with steam. Who knows, please share.

It's strange, in Eldo, after examining the oven, they asked me whether I want to pick it up myself or I'll pay extra for delivery right now
Apparently what sellers you will run into.
do not be discouraged, it means that in something else you will be more lucky!

[Tatyana]

Tatyana, yes, be lucky in buying a cooker and hood! And let the oven be pretty and without marriage! I give this to myself, like Kashpirovsky.

It's strange, in Eldo, after inspecting the oven, they asked me whether I want to pick it up myself or I will pay extra for delivery right now

Really weird. I ordered a large freezer in El that year by self, and ordered delivery in the store itself. But I had two identical orders with different promotions at once, I bought out the right one, and it went second, 4 thousand cheaper.)) But I have it within the city, and not 70 km away.

Then they said make a purchase not online, we will cancel the online order.

And it turned out much more expensive? Today I went to buy a hairdryer in El, so half of the prices in the window were lower than in the Internet version. Five hundred rubles. Well, they tracked it through a smartphone so as not to drive twice.

No, not much more expensive. The discount of 500 rubles for the promotional code was simply gone and the delivery of 490 rubles was added. I just didn’t know that such stores deliver that far. I would immediately order the delivery. It turns out that delivery within 120 km costs 490 rubles. I was surprised. Probably, each store has its own conditions and in E. you can pay extra for delivery later, or maybe I should have insisted and quarreled? I was confused and agreed. That's why I don't know all the conditions before, because I was in this store a week ago.
It's just that before, all large purchases were taken by themselves. Now I will act more thoughtfully. It's a good experience.

Girls, I came here for advice! I am choosing an oven, I need professional help. I have never had a full-fledged oven, I use a mini-oven. In the oven, I plan to bake pies, charlottes and the like, not on a professional basis, and I cook many dishes in the oven, because you cannot fried.

Please advise what options are needed, and for which you can not overpay, because the prices are very different. I won't pull the oven with pyrolysis (they'll be kicked out of the house), please help me figure it out with the manufacturing firms, I want a reliable one. I need a hob (gas) and a classic or retro beige oven.

Please advise what options are needed, and for which you can not overpay, because the prices are very different. I won't pull the oven with pyrolysis (they'll be kicked out of the house), please help me figure it out with the manufacturing firms, I want a reliable one. I need a hob (gas) and a classic or retro beige oven.

Julia, well, now, having tried many different ovens, the very last thing I am guided by is the appearance. Alas, this is far from the determining factor.
I had 2 Electrolux (both German) and now Siemens also has a native German. It is a pity that this model has already been discontinued, but so far I like Siemens the most in terms of the quality of baked goods. Unity, after the large baking sheets of Electrolux (I have a model with a volume of more than 70 liters), I will never get used to Siemens standard baking trays, they seem to me like little ones.
As for the functionality ... IMHO, the most important modes are: top + bottom, convection, grill + convection (if you like baking meat), bottom + convection for pizza and pies. The rest is pampering. I do not need pyrolysis, and in general, the noise dissolves in 3 minutes any old and burnt fat into nothing.
And if absolutely minimal set, then top-bottom (just a must !!!) and convection separately.

So I'm trying to choose a quality manufacturer, but the color is important, because there is already a beige refrigerator

[Vei]

Vei, please clarify again: do you bake pies in what mode? Bottom + convection? Don't you like the classic top + bottom mode for cakes?
In a big pie, which setting is better?
Thank you! I have a new oven and I am mastering its modes.

Don't you like the classic top + bottom mode for cakes?

the classic mode is suitable for everything, because it is both classic and the most necessary))
but for pies, yes, I personally like bottom plus convection more. Try one and the other. In my oven instructions, this mode was indicated for pies, I liked it.

Bottom + convection = note the browning of the cakes.

My fan blushes faster than glass.

Tried without a fan, blush more evenly.
Try and watch, they will bake unambiguously !!!

We are going to change the kitchen, now I am trying to plan in advance what to where and how. Two questions arose:
one.Who has steam cleaning in the oven - is it essentially the same as just heating a baking sheet of water there, or are there some tricks? How convenient and effective is it?
2. Maybe someone built the oven not on the lower level, but on the middle (countertop) - how are the impressions of operation? It's just that I've been raving about the stove for a long time, to which you don't have to bend over, and my husband says, this is nonsense, it's inconvenient, the door will get in the way, etc. At the same time, maybe someone will advise specific models for installation on the countertop. And the question of the hood is also of interest in this case.

on the middle (table top) - how are the impressions from the operation? It's just that I've been raving about the stove for a long time, to which you don't have to bend over and my husband says, this is nonsense

It is very comfortable. All my life I have had ovens downstairs and 3 years ago I made them at the countertop level. No need to bend over, the heat does not hit your face when you open the door.
How will the door get in the way?

[Vei]

Vei, svstasya, thank you very much!
I bake two white loaves once a week on one baking sheet. I also tried the classic top + bottom, another time - convection with hot air: the top turns red very quickly and it is necessary, as the eye asks, to overexpose slightly so that such a specific crust forms from below. Everything is fine, but not masterpiece
It turns out that "the little chest just opened" girls, I will definitely try the bottom with convection!
Well, how I love our Bread Maker with Her wonderful inhabitants!

It is very comfortable. All my life I have had ovens downstairs and 3 years ago I made them at the countertop level. No need to bend over, the heat does not hit your face when you open the door.

ahaaaaa! So I think the same thing. Again, you can see everything through the door from everywhere

How will the door get in the way?

Well, he means that when it is open, for example, you put something there, and the door "hangs" and takes up space. And that leaning down, it is more convenient to put.
By the way, does your oven door open downward or to the side?
And where is the extractor hood located above the hob?

And that leaning down, it is more convenient to put.

Yeah ?? And how often does he do it himself?

In short, this is not even discussed and I do not want to waste ink - the oven at chest level is more convenient. Wherever her door opened. Dot.

And how often does he do it himself?

From time to time he cooks all kinds of meat, mainly

oven at chest level is more convenient.

wow, so let's write it down

Wherever her door opened.

And where does yours open? And what model, if not a secret?

I have the most classic - the usual and already quite old Electrolux. Ovens with a door opening to the side did not make any impression on me once - almost all of them were skewed on the showcase. Ovens with a recessed door seem to be no longer made. So there is no particular choice.

I remembered that there is only one type of oven that will be more convenient at the bottom - the one where the door rolls out along with the grates on which the baking sheets are placed. As I understand it, this was invented just for the convenience of "bottom embedding". Because in the face this is not very useful, IMHO. It is from above that one must look there.

It is very comfortable. All my life I have had ovens downstairs and 3 years ago I made them at the countertop level. No need to bend over, the heat does not hit your face when you open the door.

+1
While the renovation was going on, the new oven was temporarily on the table. Kaaaak this is convenient! My back was happy! A heavy baking sheet with six legs and a couple of kilograms of potatoes was easily put on telescopic guides and then the hot baking sheet was easily removed. It is very convenient to roll out the baking sheet, stir, really the heat does not hit the face, it goes higher.
The small kitchen area did not allow the oven to be built at eye level. I am very sorry and very much aware of this shortcoming.

And to clean, if the pyrolysis is not lucky? )) Moreover, the door is snapped off and removed with one movement of the hand.

Even unnecessary forms or pans, which are usually kept in a "tabletop" oven, are easily and pleasantly removed from there. Whereas from under the countertop it was always more difficult for me to get them morally. That's real - I tried not to store what I needed there, because I didn't like getting it. Conversely, in the current version I take it very lightly. However, in all fairness, I did not have telescopes in the "under-table" oven, perhaps it would be easier to live with them in this regard. In short, I do not insist, but I hint.

the type of oven that will be more convenient at the bottom is the one where the door rolls out along with the grates on which the baking sheets are placed. As I understand it, this was invented just for the convenience of "bottom embedding". Because in the face this is not very useful, IMHO. It is from above that one must look there.

In my opinion, this is not very convenient at the bottom if something is baking on two baking sheets at once, for example. However, I personally did not use one, maybe I don’t understand why.

I get the following idea: a hob, a hood above it, drawers for pots and pans under it. Then the working space of the countertop is a meter and a half and then the oven, under it drawers for trays, baking dishes and other gadgets. And by the way, you can also hang something over it? Or better not?

[Serenity]

Serenity, go to the store and try it yourself on any oven. Try bent over to work with the baking sheets.
Of course, it is necessary to extend the column over the oven. Are you afraid of the heat from her?
Do not worry, hot air comes out of the oven through a special slot in the oven itself, this hot air goes forward, so the furniture does not suffer.

go to the store and try it yourself on any oven. Try bent over to work with the baking sheets.

Leaning - I can even at home, I need something without bending over! I'll go as soon as I find a suitable one.
By the way, it is not enough for the average level of ovens in stores. In the same place, the ergonomics are still different - the switches and the door handle ...

By the way, does your oven door open downward or to the side? And where is the extractor hood located above the hob?

It opens up as standard, down.
Hood over cooking, in a completely different direction. The oven is built into a column next to the refrigerator. Above and below the usual shelves with dishes, nothing heats up. The air comes out through a special slot on the front of the oven, you can put a ventilation grate in the plinth, but we did not put it on.

Added Thursday, 22 Dec 2016 8:08 PM

not enough for the average level of ovens in stores.

In the sense of? Any standard oven can be built in at chest level.

Any standard oven can be built in at chest level.

Can. But the ergonomics there is still different. Poztomk most - rather averaged in this regard, and there, and here.

Added Thursday, 22 Dec 2016 08:22 PM

Hood over cooking, in a completely different direction. The oven is built into the column

I have about the same plan.

[On the oven]

I was also afraid that the handles would get in the way!
The protruding handle was initially marked with a towel (I hung the towel on the handle), but I saw that there was no particular need to highlight !!
I have it on the worktop! It's always nice to watch the cooking process!

Very convenient to get and load weights, especially with "telescopes" !!
The oven is built-in, but no one built it anywhere!
On the oven (during and after work) there is a towel straight on her bare top iron "roof".

The towel is barely warm, as is the outer glass. I clean everything for the time of pyrolysis.

I am already at the age when it is important for me exactly as it is more convenient for me, more pleasant and easier!

Leaning - I can even at home, I need something without bending over! I'll go as soon as I find a suitable one.
By the way, it is not enough for the average level of ovens in stores. In the same place, the ergonomics are still different - both switches and the door handle ...

Then you need not to go to the store, but to the kitchen furniture stores.

Open the instructions for any oven, look at the installation instructions, be sure to bring both options, both under the countertop and in the column.
About protruding handles - I got confused when choosing my oven and chose a completely touch-sensitive oven without any handles.

Then you need not to go to the store, but to the kitchen furniture stores.

Yes, probably. They offer the installation themselves. Now that I have fundamentally decided that I will not do the oven downstairs, I will look after a specific model.

I have a handle on the door, but I have never caught anything on it, although it is in the aisle. My husband constantly puts a towel on her, and I just hate it.
Here here pictures you can see

[kseniya D]

kseniya Dwhat a wonderful cuisine !!!

Ksenia, please tell me who the manufacturer of your oven is and how are your impressions of using it.

I have Ariston. It suits me perfectly. But I do not bake to order, only for myself, so she meets my requirements. For me, the aesthetic side was also important, it had to look harmonious in the kitchen.

Thank you, so I am trying to combine aesthetics with practicality, I have fundamentally beige appliances, because such a refrigerator, well, I want good quality, but I buy them for more than one day. And I really liked yours.

[Top + Bottom]

I have Ariston. It suits me perfectly.

Top + Bottom is there a regime? In the sense that the lower heating element is present.)

Yes of course. There is no mode, as Lisa wrote above, lower + fan. The top and bottom do not work individually.

Here you can see the pictures

What a cozy and bright kitchen

Yes of course.

And nothing "of course". Ariston disgraced himself - he released some kind of line without a lower heater at all. And he disguised "economy" with all sorts of marketing subterfuges, calling the regimes differently beautifully, but not in essence.

Yeah, laaaadna! Really? I do not follow, because it is unnecessary. Where can I read?