Pizza makers: Princess 115000-01, Tristar, GF, Travola, Clatroniс, etc. (2)

And if by marriage, then only through the service center.

Well, in any case, I really do not advise you to postpone this business on the back burner, because adapting to defective equipment levels out all the pleasure of cooking. Moreover, normally working stoves, judging by the forum, are still found, we just were very unlucky. Mine has been lying around in the service center for 45 days. So I bought myself a multi-baker, and now a second cartoon, maybe the first one broke.
Although at home 95% of the equipment (just the remaining 4% live with me a little less) has been working for more than 10 years and has never broken down. Here Tristar was the first, the multi-baker is the second, we draw conclusions))))

Girls, if the top of the baking is greased with something, an egg, for example, then, of course, it will brown well.
This is, as I understand it, about a low baking of a fairly lean dough and nothing greased on top.
Yes, such a top will not be particularly ruddy, but it will not be particularly ruddy in the oven, if it is not lubricated with anything.

Let's be honest already

And for some reason, their check says that only 7 days are returned, not 14.
And if by marriage, then only through the service center.

For goods of good quality (without defects), in a marketable condition - usually 14 days,
for defective goods - during the warranty period.
By law, you can demand a refund, but it all depends on the good faith of the seller ... Large companies, such as Ozone, return money without problems, for them reputation is more important.

[RepeShock]

RepeShock, well, the focaccia, sprinkled with oil, was fried only at the place of contact, in other places it is really white. And there a couple of millimeters to the top.

Large companies, such as Ozone, return money without any problems, reputation is more important for them.

Ozone sent me to the service.

On some sites, for example. Wildberry, immediately write that the goods cannot be returned.
I bought on tvideo

If you are not confused by the non-locking cover))

Explain to me wooden, does this mean? Without a latch, is it? How on HP? And why is this such a significant disadvantage? I am looking for a new friend just to the kitchen, so I rush about the topics, choosing from the princesses tristar and gf

This means that the lid itself does not hold vertically, it requires support at least against the wall.

[Sibelis]

Sibelis, I am not writing about stoves, the performance of which is in question.
The biscuit in the last photo has a smeared top.
Although, if the dough ext. a little sugar, it will lightly brown anyway.

The focaccia will not turn brown from the oil, the oil will only make it a little softer.

[Dasha 001]

Dasha 001, at the princess, the lid opens and is kept open. In the case of the GF, you need to unfold it completely, 180 degrees, and this takes up a lot of space. Well, or pin it to the wall, and then it crawls)).
On my own behalf, I will add that the princess has a very uncomfortable handle, which has been burned decently with steam twice. On gf, like, norms.

does this mean?

The lid opens 180 g, just like Tortilla. Without fixing at 90 g, like other pizza makers.

Without a latch, is it?

Here, not a single stove has latches and should not be.

[RepeShock]

RepeShock, in the oven it turns red from the oil.

immediately write that the goods cannot be returned.

They can write whatever they want, there is a law (on consumer protection).

Ozone sent me to the service.

Perhaps a lot of time has passed from the purchase and the seller needed to find out whether this is a manufacturing defect or a defect due to the fault of the consumer (this also often happens).

[Sibelis]

Sibelis,
And it takes 15 minutes?)

On my own behalf, I will add that the princess has a very uncomfortable handle, which has been burned decently with steam twice. On gf, like, norms.

The GF has an excellent handle, it is generally impossible to get burned.

[RepeShock]

RepeShock, I baked 25. And for the oven is enough.

So I say, in the PP is faster.

P2 and Tristar also have good handles, they never burn.
P1 has such a problem, because all the steam comes down from the front.

This means that the lid itself does not hold vertically, it requires support at least against the wall

Chuuu ... is that really a problem? So a feature as for me ... And when it is placed vertically on the priest to store it does not unfold like a raskrivushka? Py. there is nowhere to touch them, so I ask some stupid questions

so is it really a problem?

It doesn't matter, of course. Just an inconvenience, and even then, not for everyone.

Well, or pin it to the wall, and then it crawls)).

So how can this problem be solved? Will a rubber mat help under it? Rather, if you put the gf on a rubber / silicone mat?

Perhaps a lot of time has passed from the purchase and the seller needed to find out if this is a manufacturing defect or a defect due to the fault of the consumer (

So you can kill any device in 2 weeks if it is used incorrectly, it does not depend on the period, I think. But I baked vegetables a few times, the rest of the time either frying meat, pancakes, or baking pizzas, cakes, pies. That is, I did not cook goulash soups.

[Aenta]

Let's be honest already

that is, we, the owners of P1, are deliberately misleading everyone? If someone did not make friends with her and threw her into a far corner, this does not mean that everyone else has the same story.

My princess 1 t browns everything perfectly and quickly enough.
focaccia biscuit

Is this also cheating and smeared with an egg? For your information, focacci and biscuits are not greased with an egg.
Aenta, wonderful pastries, soon you and I will have to prove that we are taking pictures without some kind of filter, as has already been hinted here.
It's just ridiculous, it's called "don't believe your eyes."
Nobody belittles the merits of Tristar, there are plenty of those who are crazy about him, so you shouldn't accuse us of fraud every time with good photos from P1 ...

But the tristar and the princess are bringing in the Comfort-maximum, and we have a representative on the forum. Maybe you should invite to this topic to participate in the discussion?

I have this baby from Domo, a Belgian company
🔗
Purchased at the German Amazon. Bakes smoothly, with a regulator, with a handle that is comfortable and safe for the user. And pay attention to its price. Why, when I pay about the same in Russia for a pizza maker, do I get so many problems in the first year?
It seems that one marriage is being bought up to Russia on the cheap. The first princess spilled like a madman, steam climbed out from under the bulbs and from under the handle, burning her hands. Tristar also did not live a year.
Apparently, I am very spoiled by good technique.

So how can this problem be solved? Will a rubber mat help under it? Rather, if you put the gf on a rubber / silicone mat?

If there are rails on the wall, then you can fix the handle with a hook ...


I often put it this way:

[RepeShock]

RepeShock, you get burned perfectly with P2.



So no one said: the coverage is the same for princesses and GF?

soon you and I will have to prove that we are taking pictures without some kind of filter, as has already been hinted here

I'm not going to prove it. Immediately I realized that "a stone in my garden." Photo shop apparently because I drew snowflakes, I admit cheating. Real snowflakes don't come in that size.
Here's the last one. More biscuits. They are flat against the baking lid, do not rest, are not greased with anything. I don't put rugs. White balance is visible.

I'll just write, once again, all three stoves work the same for me.
And P1, and P2, and Tristar. If someone reads between the lines, you can't help here ...

And yes, if you want a fried top, brush it with an egg. As with baking in the oven, they do and do not consider it shameful. Some love with their eyes)

And the fact that the photos taken in the evening give a different color, so everyone can check, everyone has phones, I think, with cameras now.

the coverage is the same for princesses and GF?

My P1 and GF have exactly the same!

[Tristara]

Ossetian pie from Tristara.



The bottom is evenly fried, without rugs or nets.

Wildberry, immediately write that the goods cannot be returned.

I have experience in returning a defective multicooker to the WB (wildbury). According to the act from the service center, they accepted it without problems and returned the money.

[MSU]

Devulki, good afternoon!
MSU, Svetochka, but I have no eagles. Everywhere I will find something extremely unpleasant for myself. On P 2, I was offended by the fact that a lot of water was released when frying the fish. I sincerely believe that the oven is not to blame, but the fish itself. But until the resentment passes, then P 2 will be adapted for my fish.
Now I'm dabbling in Tristarik. I really like the smooth temperature switching in it. Not in jerks, as, for example, in my Gourmania (it fries a lot, or even barely puffs), but smoothly and delicately.
MirabelVikus, I, of course, do not get a real lagman sauce, but very tasty.
Finely chop about 700 g of meat and fry at maximum. As it is a little browned, then add the onion, again cut into small, small cubes. Fry. Then 2 peppers, a large carrot, 3 potatoes and 3-4 cloves of garlic. Everything, everything is again very finely chopped. Fry. Pour enough water to cover the vegetables. Salt, pepper and all on a quiet heat.
Vikul, try it.
Also try to make Lenusi's pastry in Klatron Tim... There is a link to Tanechka's recipe above win-tat gave.
It turns out sooo cool in Clathron. It is not lush, but layered and right all through and through cabbage.
Here

In case of gf, you need to unfold completely, 180 degrees, and this takes up a lot of space. Well, or pin it to the wall, and then it crawls)).

I have never been angry

On some sites, for example. Wildberry, immediately write that the goods cannot be returned.

As I understand it, this means a good quality product, that is, a worker.
If the marriage, then according to the law they cannot simply refuse.

I have never been angry

And mine.

[Rita]

Rita, Ritusik, thank you Sun! and cooked it in the form, as I understand it .. and meat ... beef?
Lena's cake was made in Princess, sooo !!! oooh! I will do it in Klatron too, thanks!

[Vikul]

Yes, Vikulbeef cooked in shape and meat. You can also shove a form into the Clathron, if hotzza. I even have a suitable one.
The clathron is also flexible in terms of temperature, so it should Vikus, get it.

[Gf]

Here, by the way, pizza and potato focaccia in Gf, from Svetlana.

Delicious, juicy, the first pizza in the GF was a success



And the Focaccia potato recipe has already been tried and tested here many times by everyone and has been referenced many times. I made it

However, GF-ki on Ozone snapped up at a price of 3299 rubles.
I wonder at what price the new delivery will be ...

However, GF-ki on Ozone snapped up at a price of 3299 rubles.
I wonder at what price the new delivery will be ...

It turns out that I was one of the last to snatch an order about 15 minutes ago, I also issued a promo code and used it

I placed the order about 15 minutes ago and used the promo code

Congratulations! I hope that it will please))

Girls, tell me what it can be? Recently, I began to notice that a black trace appears on the top cover of my P1 (the outlines of the heating element), and today I did a durovka for the first time - so incomprehensible some kind of stench, something in between burned wiring and plastic: nasmork: Ugh! And now this blackness on the lid is clearly visible. What's this? Covered with heating element? Sparit The Princess is like crazy, today I cut out the rug - the bottom is silicone, and I had to put it on top, because it began to fry heavily. Try to drag it somewhere to the autopsy, or save up for a new stove?

Well, there is at Techport. I'll try to order.

what could it be?

Pelmeni, dumplings, manti in a pizza maker. #14 look at the wires, maybe the winding is frayed and it starts to smell, not far and to cotton, the princess may burn out

[Irsha]

Irsha, Irisha, thanks, let's try to unscrew .... Something in my technique began to fail for various reasons ... One frustration

In general, if in Moscow someone needs GF, at Techport 3280, there is a self-pickup from Avtozavodskaya

That's why I want now GF

Girls, don't expect miracles from GF. This is the same Princess, only with a timer, temperature controller and a knob. The principle of operation, size and cooking results are identical - that is, if you do not like some dish, for example, cutlets, from the Princess, then you will not like them from GF. Of course, I mean both devices working correctly.

However, GF-ki on Ozone snapped up at a price of 3299 rubles

But there are also discounted 2970s - with the condition "like new"!

Devuli, I found my pizza at GFushka. Here, the pastries did not reach the top

but here the pie was literally right next to the lid

I agree with Larochka that this oven works exactly the same way as everyone else.
Then all this upset me and angered me, but now I look, so the form with a rug under the ass and go!
But these pies, in my opinion, even without a coup.

Well, the timer is very convenient for sclerosis... And a handle, and vertical storage, and the ability to use as two pans. In principle, everything suits me and the Princesses - both the size and the principle of operation, and even how the cutlets turned out.But I want the stove to fry the top like the girls in the pictures.

[Vikus]

Potatoes in Tristarka, cutlets in Klatron.
Vikus, the cutlets will not be lush in any way. The top cover immediately deprives the cocells of the opportunity to fluff.

Myasko is probably better in Clathron.