Sibelis
Baked Tsvetaevsky pie. The bottom is decently baked, but the top is completely white. Like snow.
I'll take it out right now, take a picture.




I kept it up to 35 minutes.
Pizza makers: Princess 115000-01, Tristar, GF, Travola, Clatroniс, etc. (2)
The apples were not fried, they darkened slightly even before baking.




Girls, what is the best - to return or take to the service center, let them twist it?
Ayac
So I hoped for help ... Eh ...
win-tat
Quote: Rituslya
me too with a pie from Lenusi Tim
Rit, so how's the pie? What would be your positive answer?
Quote: Sibelis
I kept it up to 35 minutes.
Natasha, in P2 it bakes 5-7 minutes longer than in P1, and Lena kubanochka he is not tanned either, judging by the photo she sprinkled him with cinnamon.
I baked in P1 for a long time, I got a little tan now Photo

Sibelis
win-tat, no, well, white and damp on top. And if you bake a pizza, in general garbage will turn out ((.
Change to P1 gallery ...
win-tat
Ahh, also damp, then definitely give up. In P2, any baked goods should be used. ready in 30 minutes, that's the maximum.
Konvetka
Sibelis, I had the same trouble in P2, handed it back, bought P1 and now everything is baking perfectly. And pies from Lena Tim are generally a fairy tale, only for them you SHOULD buy a Princess




Now I ordered a Pizza rack "Azur", 30 cm for 79 rubles. Has anyone used this? Nothing is written of what it is made of.
Sibelis
Konvetka, I just bought it. It said what it was made of, but I threw out the packaging, I remember that it was coated with some kind. I like it.
selenа
Ayac, read this topic, here Klatronic and Tristar and Princess girls praise and use them with pleasure, just a Tortilla suits your needs more, and you can fry cutlets in any of these ovens.
Konvetka
Sibelis, And for what purposes did you buy it? Can you put it on the bottom of the Princess instead of a silicone mat?
Sibelis
Now I turned the wheel of the thermostat on the PC: its green heating lamp only lights up "for three hours", that is, after a quarter of a circle.
I think to take it to the service center - maybe they will tweak it. To hand over is to collect all belongings back around the house: a rug, a spatula, an apron, a uniform ...




Konvetka, yes, that's what everyone takes.
RepeShock
Quote: Konvetka
Can you put it on the bottom of the Princess instead of a silicone mat?

Not instead of, but together with the rug.

Quote: Sibelis
Now I turned the wheel of the thermostat

Natasha, and you exactly baked at the maximum?
At P2, of course, the regulator is so poorly made that you can not watch it. In Tristar, in this regard, it is better, more noticeable.
I have doubts gnawing something that maybe people are not tightening the regulator.

Quote: Sibelis
To hand over is to collect all belongings back around the house: a rug, a spatula, an apron, a uniform ...

Of course not. Only the stove Everything else is fine)
Sibelis
RepeShock, exactly, exactly, at the maximum!
RepeShock

Clear...
Yuliya K
Quote: Konvetka
Now I ordered a Pizza rack "Azur", 30 cm for 79 rubles. Has anyone used this? Nothing is written of what it is made of.
Quote: Konvetka
Can you put it on the bottom of the Princess instead of a silicone mat?
The grid is made of Teflon-impregnated fiberglass, just like a Teflon mat. It is placed under a Teflon or silicone mat; it can be placed under metal and silicone molds to evenly distribute the bottom heat. I do all the baked goods in pizza makers only with her!
Despite its name and non-stick properties, you should not bake pizza directly on it, since the dough will penetrate the cells and there will be a problem with the separation of the grid from the baking.
Konvetka
Quote: RepeShock
Of course not. Only the stove Everything else is fine)
If on Ozone, then they have no concept of exchange.There I completely passed one thing - I bought another (albeit the same one).
Sibelis
By the way, my bottom is baked evenly, there is no circle from the shade. But in fact, in 35 minutes without substrates with normal heating, the sweet dough should have burned, it seems to me.




Konvetka, not on Ozone. Damn, I don't even remember where

Did anyone contact them in the service center? It makes sense?
RepeShock
Quote: Konvetka
If on Ozone

Ahhh, I thought we were talking about a service center)
Yuliya K
Quote: Sibelis
in fact, in 35 minutes without substrates with normal heating, the sweet dough should have burnt
At maximum heating, I think so.
Sibelis
RepeShock, a service center is, if you fix it, and if you change it, then go to the store. I bought it a week ago, but I don't remember the name anymore)).
RepeShock
Quote: Sibelis
in 35 minutes without substrates

Without substrates 35 minutes ?? It's definitely a marriage.
I will have coals in any of the three stoves during this time.

win-tat
Quote: Sibelis
the sweet dough should have burnt,
Definitely, and not burn, but burn.
This is the bottom of a muffin cake for 30 minutes in a silicone mold from P2
Pizza makers: Princess 115000-01, Tristar, GF, Travola, Clatroniс, etc. (2)
Konvetka
Sibelis, Natasha, read the topic from page 63. I had the same problem, we measured the temperature, and I posted pictures from P2. Then I bought P1.
Martochka
Good night girls! I want to buy a pizza maker and can't decide on a model ... Can you please tell me which model is more convenient and reliable: Princess 115000 or Princess 115001? Please share your experience and observations if any of you had the opportunity to compare these two models.
Marpl
Read the topic and the questions themselves will disappear.
Masha Ivanova
Sibelis, Natasha! Try to better remember all the same in which store you took it, and hand over the goods of inadequate quality to them within 14 days from the date of purchase (having previously discussed everything with the store). After all, you should have preserved some documents. Recently, one of the girls handed over to the service, not without difficulty trying to prove that there are certain jambs in the pizza machines. Have been writing about this in the thread for the last couple of weeks.




Ayac, in light of the fact that recently, Princess-2 and Tristar have jambs, and Klatronic is lower in height than other pizza chains, I would advise you to consider either GF-ku or Princess-1. Both of these stoves have a good temperature, no one has yet complained that they are not baked, plus the GF has a thermostat and a timer. And both are normal in height. And the Klatronic is still too low to be the only stove, do you want a sufficiently universal device?
Rituslya
Devuli, good morning!
I bring you your butt from the second pastry pie from Lenochka Tim... The top is the same, but the priest is a bit lighter.
I giggle, of course it will be brighter, then like a cake was in the form and still stood on two rugs. I chose a tall shape of 4 cm, and a smaller diameter.
Yesterday I wrote that portioned yeast pies are not very good, but big pies and flat cakes are even very good!
Pizza makers: Princess 115000-01, Tristar, GF, Travola, Clatroniс, etc. (2)
Wonderful dough!
Elfa
Ayac, read your desired dishes. I would like to help you choose, I can only compare Tristar and Klatronic. I also bought Klatronic because of the grill, it is smaller in diameter than the Princesses and Tristar, I make cutlets in it, not everything is convenient to bake vegetables in it, for example, if a large pepper, my grill top burns, and pizza, even thin, also sometimes sticks ... Therefore, I still like Tristar-high. And the size of Tristar is the same as the Princesses. I hope these details help you in some way.
PS I agree with Masha Ivanova, as the only stove I would not buy Klatronic.
Martochka
Marpl, read the topic part 2 or part 1? There are a lot of pages




"Princess-2" or "P2" - is it about which particular Princess model? Princess 115001?
Rituslya
Princess 115001 is P-2 (device with a thermostat)
Princess 115000 is P-1 (device without a thermostat)

It's just that the P-1 appeared earlier in our market than the Princess 115001, so we have it for the first time.
Elfa
Martochka, yes, Princess 2 is the one with the thermostat, 115001.
I have no Princesses, only Tristar. But I'm reading this topic, go over the last few pages 20-30, of this particular thread. I got the feeling that there have been several quality complaints about Princess 2 lately.
O-Rita has already answered you)
Katko
Martochka, yes a lot, but no one will make a choice for you
Masha Ivanova
Martochka, and there are a lot of jambs with Tristar too.
RepeShock
Quote: Masha Ivanova
there are a lot of jambs with Tristar too

Who? Only P2 so far, it seems.

Tristars work normally, especially since they have been on the market for a long time.
They did not have such problems as in P2.

Elfa
Quote: Martochka
Please tell me which model is more convenient and reliable: Princess 115000 or Princess 115001?
I myself asked similar questions, and I understand that all the branches written by pizza makers cannot be mastered, so I’ll add a little more: Princess 2 (which is 115001) has a silicone form according to the configuration, so as far as I read the branch, in practice this form is not convenient for baking, because when cooking in it, it rises up, so the presence of this form can not be considered a plus, you still have to buy a silicone form. But at the same time, this model of the stove is equipped with a thermostat, and in 115000 there is no thermostat. Therefore, decide for yourself what it will be more convenient for you to work with. Owners of the Princess1, without a thermostat, often write that they do not need a regulator.
In general, I understand for myself that everyone loves their model. And how often they write here, you know now the pros / cons; and probably make the choice intuitively, to what the soul lies. Because everyone is good.
PS I have a Tristar, with a thermostat, I like the ability to regulate the temperature.
Sibelis
The shape in P2 is stupid, but there is also a silicone mat and a comfortable spatula. Well, and an apron (no one needs it, most likely).
The thermostat could be useful if the maximum temperature was made higher. And so, as I understand it, all the same cooks at the maximum.
I would take P1. Well, in fact, I followed her, and due to the jamb of the issue point, I bought P2.
sarman
Quote: RepeShock
there are a lot of jambs with Tristar too

Who? Only P2 so far, it seems.

I have
RepeShock
Quote: sarman

I have

Time.

caprice23
sarman, what about you with him?
I just bought a couple of weeks ago, everything seems to be fine. Ugh, ugh, ugh.
grinaty
Elfa, RepeShock,Rituslya I have 2 copies (I have my daughters) Tristara work great! The thermostat is great too!
RepeShock

Yes, here, I also do not remember (maybe sclerosis))) in the topic about a LOT of jambs at Tristar.
And I don’t remember a photo of it at all, maybe I missed it?) I’m waiting for the link.

But the idea of ​​Tristar's poor performance is imprinted in the minds of readers, as if on purpose.

And he, smart girl, works great

sarman
Quote: caprice23
What about you with him?
The same story - I didn't fry, I barely baked at the maximum, I also didn't understand why the regulator was, if it barely cooks.
Marina22
Quote: Sibelis
And so, as I understand it, all the same cooks at the maximum.
Well, if only pizza or other unsweetened dough.
But the sweet dough at the maximum burns strongly, even in a silicone mold or on a silicone mat. I've already cut a whole layer of coals a couple of times.
Therefore, the thermostat helps me a lot. My P2 is very nimble at maximum.

Mollie
Quote: Martochka
Please tell me which model is more convenient and reliable: Princess 115000 or Princess 115001?

Why choose only from Princesses?
I also recently made a choice, having previously read both topics (if you don't want disappointment, it's better to read it all the same).
The result is the purchase of GFGrill. I am very pleased with the stove - it fries and bakes perfectly, there is a thermostat and a timer (no need to pull from the socket). Convenient handle, can be stored while standing.
For 35 minutes, you don't need to bake anything in it at all, everything cooks much faster - pizza - 8-10 minutes maximum.
I bought mainly for vegetables / grilled fish, casseroles, pizza, open savory pies. All this is being prepared for 5+.
I don’t bake sweet pies, but I think I can handle it too.

Martochka
Elfa, Rituslya, thanks for answers! My question is relevant for everyone who wants to buy a Princess pizza maker.
RepeShock

Mollie, do not forget to write that the top cover of the GF is not fixed, it only unfolds by 180 gr.
This, of course, does not affect the quality of work, but for some it is a significant point.

Martochka
Quote: RepeShock
do not forget to write that the top cover of the GF is not fixed, it only unfolds by 180 gr.
This, of course, does not affect the quality of work, but for some it is a significant point.

This is really a very significant moment.





Why, for example, did not I stop Tristar: I came across a video where he was compared in work with Princess 115000, Tristar cooks longer, bakes weaker
Larssevsk
Quote: Martochka
This is really a very significant moment.
I rest the lid on the apron. Very convenient.
I and the PR rest on a lid on the apron at the dacha, in a suspended state without support I somehow do not like it.
P.S. And it started in a circle again. Deja vu
Yuliya K
Quote: Larssevsk
in a suspended state without support, I somehow don't like it
And me!
Quote: Larssevsk
P.S. And it started in a circle again. Deja vu
Aha!

RepeShock
Quote: Martochka
came across a video

There were not equal working conditions.
I would not judge the operation of the stoves on this video.
To be honest, this video is very misleading.

But I will not persuade you to Tristar. The topic contains enough arguments in favor of different stoves.

Mollie
Quote: RepeShock
but for some, an essential point.

While choosing, I read about it many times, I was afraid to be honest that it would be inconvenient ... In fact, it turned out to be an insignificant nuance for me. Just like a short cord, to be honest, this one is too long, I have to fix it with a toaster))
So, you need to read, study, but you should not take everything as an axiom))

But I consider the lack of a thermostat and / or timer to be a significant drawback. Like something from the century before last, IMHO

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