nut
You understood everything correctly - when it is ready
Beska
That's great !!!!! And then the husband protested to wait another 2 hours, he wants to try
Beska
Here he is, my "firstborn"! It turned out. I could not even resist, "crumple" a piece, even though it was too late for food.
Hooray, bought a Panasonic bread maker! First impressions and reviews
Hooray, bought a Panasonic bread maker! First impressions and reviews
lidia55
bought a Panasonic 257, baked the first bread, it turned out delicious, one upset that there is no viewing window to watch the process
Kalyusya
Quote: lidia55

bought a Panasonic 257, baked the first bread, it turned out delicious, one upset that there is no viewing window to watch the process


What is behind the process? Kneading? Open the lid and look for yourself.
Mamusya
Hello everybody! I am now in your ranks, today I bought 257 models, I am sitting, waiting for my first bread to be baked! At the beginning, I really got scared that I did something wrong, put everything down, pressed start, and the stove was silent, did nothing for an hour, and then I started to knead and I calmed down ...
lidia55
not kneading, but baking))) and even during kneading the flour gets dusty and the dust falls on the ten and burns ((
Admin
The lid can and should be calmly opened and watched the dough kneading process and proving. Before the end of the second proofing, it is better not to climb into the oven at all - you will not help the dough with anything, everything is done - but letting the cold air in and thereby harm the dough - you can very much
During baking, it is absolutely impossible to open the lid !!!!

To prevent flour from dusting - cover the bucket with a towel until the flour settles on the dough
Zvezda askony
Done !!!
I am a lucky owner of Panasonic 257!
I washed and wiped everything.
And with trepidation she laid the first bread.
With the insolence of a neophyte rookie - Egg L.
Changed a little. Instead of powdered milk, I put in dry cream.
And I'm not entirely sure that exactly two tablespoons of butter.
Guru!!!! tell me how to measure it (butter) exactly?
Or is it not global?
Sifted flour.
..... I'm waiting with trepidation!
We will not have to sleep, but to work.
To get it out in time.
After reading the "primer" I realized that it is impossible to overexpose, as there will be condensation and this will affect the quality of the bread.
Oh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What will happen!?!?!?!?!?!?
If only everything worked out!
Zvezda askony

Hurrah! The native interferes !!!!!!
Such a smell! Miracle!!!!!
a neat lump of dough is smoothly mixed.
There is some flour left in the left corner.
I hope she (the remaining flour) will also join the kolobok.
Waiting !!!!!
IRR
Zvezda askony, Congratulations. You comment-type messages from the fields. We, too, do not sleep, we observe (hyt and not a Panasonic at mnu)

shl. By and large a secret (while the guru sleeps) I have no scales. At first I measured with spoons, cups, glasses, now on a whim - all about. K. So, don't be afraid, everything will work out.
Zvezda askony
Quote: IRR

Zvezda askony, Congratulations. You comment-type messages from the fields. We, too, do not sleep, we observe (hyt and not a Panasonic at mnu)

shl. By and large a secret (while the guru sleeps) I have no scales. At first I measured with spoons, cups, glasses, now on a whim - all about. K. So, don't be afraid, everything will work out.
Thank you!!!!!
It's so nice when you know that you are not alone.
The husband went to bed. Huge thanks to him for supporting me in my decision.
In the afternoon, I was in complete despair after a sleepless night and a trip to hyper and other markets including METRO (everywhere only 256 !!!) - I fell asleep with the thought - Well, no luck is visible!
But my husband came from the store and said that there is what I want and at a more or less reasonable price.
Hands to feet - and there!
Honestly looked through everything that was (along the way, looking at the coffee maker with capsules, an amusing thing!) - I confirmed my decision.
And of course, right away in Auchan, I bought everything that was.
Including honey and apple cider vinegar. I don't remember why, but I remember that I was needed somewhere.
I scared the sellers with the swear word panufarin. everyone shuddered (including the Metro !!!! - like a professional store) but never bought it.
But I don’t remember why, either!

The pugs went to bed. The fact that Panasonic began to interfere I learned from them, they were very outraged by the quiet rustling and they apparently decided, "The enemy is crawling" - with cheerful voices they announced that they "Guard the Motherland and the enemy will not pass !!!"
Now they are sleeping. Occasionally someone one "coughing" reports that the enemy is still scratching somewhere!
I ran to watch
And then I didn't cover it with a towel! I was scared, but suddenly I forget to take it out!
In thought
Can I sprinkle the poppy !? Or is it not worth it in egg bread?
IRR
Bake without frills for now (poppy later, and not only). And pugs are cool - that's who will share the joy of HP with you. By the way, we have a topic for pets. go
Giraffe
Zvezda askony
I am glad for you with all my heart! If you always comment like that, you will be included in my secret list of mood-improving users.
Zvezda askony
Quote: IRR

Bake without frills for now (poppy later, and not only). And pugs are cool - that's who will share the joy of HP with you. By the way, we have a topic for pets. go
The process is underway, so I'm afraid to interfere
When was the last time I looked
the dough was laid out imposingly in the corner (left) of the bucket in a soft, fragrant kolob.
Just where there was 2 spare flour! So, apparently, the flour will be used for its intended purpose to the last grain.
There was no smell of burnt flour. Everything is neat and tidy. Even surprising.
Either it all "went down" to the kolobok, or does it interfere so neatly that it does not get dusty !?
Riddle. But good news. So no towels so far.
The smell is very wonderful. it smelled like that in early childhood, when my grandmother "started" pies.
2 hours left with pretty pennies.
The display is counting down!
IRR
Zvezda askony, good luck to you! Tomorrow (today) I will come and read it as a result. If possible, take a picture - the pictures say a lot - again, the first bread - to capture - is a holy cause
Zvezda askony
Quote: giraffe

Zvezda askony
I am glad for you with all my heart! If you always comment like that, you will be included in my secret list of mood-improving users.
Thank you!!!!
Emotions over the edge.
Two weeks of agony of choice. Reading both forums and "no" and "ru"
In the choice, it was unimportant factors, the fact that the person I respect very much, regardless of me, also settled on this model.
She monitored pricing.
The price from November to the present moment ranged from 5250 to 11100 !!!!!
Stunning spread.
I couldn't wait any longer. She decided to wait until the New Year's hysteria subsided and prices began to fall.
I will try to continue to please you and I hope that my comments will be useful to those who are just starting to think about HP
Zvezda askony
Quote: IRR

Zvezda askony, good luck to you! Tomorrow (today) I will come and read it as a result. If possible, take a picture - the pictures say a lot - again, the first bread - to capture - is a holy cause
I will definitely capture this moment - if everything goes well!
TTT!
Two more hours and a little more to cool down and it will be clear what happened and what -... no, let everything be
I went to look for a golden crust - what is needed for this.
I also remember something about something that needs to be turned off in advance, which I don't remember anymore.
Mila007
Zvezda askony and I watch from the bushes your baking history
I remember my first time. Eh, what emotions
But the subsequent ones are no worse. Baking bread is so interesting and exciting. Each time, new additives, new taste, new experiments. And it’s so exciting!
Welcome to the "land of avid bakers"! Good luck to you!

Shl. Reading you is a pleasure
Zvezda askony
And here he is!
My firstborn !!!!!
No words yet. Now I'm going to try.
Here is a photo

Hooray, bought a Panasonic bread maker! First impressions and reviews
My first bread.
Egg, size L. Next to dad Panasonic 257!
Hooray, bought a Panasonic bread maker! First impressions and reviews
And this bread is already carefully wrapped up resting, "ripening" !!!!!
Zvezda askony
Hooray, bought a Panasonic bread maker! First impressions and reviews

Here he is so handsome !!!!!!!

And a little "flood"
Support group and "watchmen" - "kitchen attendants"

Pugs Bel, Vita, Shan, Bobblehead and Chihuahua Kisa.

Free interpretation of the conversation between them
Vita (the one who stretches)
Hurrah! Now we'll eat some tasty treats !!!!!
Kisa (little redhead)
Let's eat! How !!!!
Mom won't give anything harmful
Now one will spoil the figure. And we will see the morning cottage cheese !!!

Hooray, bought a Panasonic bread maker! First impressions and reviews

Giraffe
Well done! With humor, everything is in order, so we will live. The bread looks excellent, I have no doubt that it tastes too. I wish you successful mastering of new recipes and improvement of the tested ones.
Giraffe
But behind the pugs, whose face modestly peeps out?
Zvezda askony
Quote: giraffe

Well done! With humor, everything is in order, so we will live. The bread looks excellent, I have no doubt that it tastes too. I wish you successful mastering of new recipes and improvement of the tested ones.

Thank you!!! I will try !!!
Now I will process the photo and write a short report

Quote: giraffe

But behind the pugs, whose face modestly peeps out?

This Chihuahua is long-haired.
Home name Kisa
Full name
Star of Ascona A Sole Mio A peso De Oro (The first two words are the name of the nursery. Translation of the name - My sun is worth its weight in gold!)
Zvezda askony
Hooray, bought a Panasonic bread maker! First impressions and reviews
Here he is handsome in the context!
The crust is tender and crispy. Very delicate, airy, pleasant yellowish-creamy color.
Very fragrant, beautifully shaped. (For this I was very worried, this was the only negative when choosing Panasonic! In my understanding, a loaf is a standard loaf of black bread. And the result is a very beautiful shape. In this form, any cake will be very and very worthy!)
Very tasty!!!!!!!
Even without anything! With cocoa.
And if also with butter, or with a Finnish fish -OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!
There really will be
Goodbye figure - long live his majesty - gluttony!

Briefly history
I saw bread makers at the club members.
She asked "How?"
They answered - "Great! Recommended !!!"
It was advised to take with two forms. There were no recommendations on the brand.
The thought passed and left.
At the Shell gas station - where to feed my faithful friend Matiz - there is an action
Following the results of discounted products
Including a bread maker at a price of 2300-00
Thought returned and hinted timidly
"Or maybe .. ?? God bless her with a figure!
Bread will always be at home. its delicious (it made me think!)
Since there was no desire to run somewhere and nothing was burning, I decided to find out more about this model.
Based on the results of searches in the internet, I found two sites
No RU
The number of Panasonic fans suggested that it was not just that. and I am a supporter of the motto
"We're not rich enough to buy bad things!"

The bottom line.
I'm with Panasonic 257.
And here is the review itself
Very nice design.
Strict, without excess. Convenient shape and size. Easily fits into the interior, which is also not unimportant.
An unconditional plus high quality and soundly made.
Intuitive controls.
A clear, complete guide.
Only one recipe tried -
Result - everything is as it was written. The bread is of high quality, tasty and as promised in exactly 4 hours

(For this I was secretly very worried. One of the owners of the bread makers admonished me
"When you buy, contact me! I'll tell you how to bake it. For 4 days (!!!!) I tried this and that, so far I have achieved a good result.)

HP works very quietly. Handles bad voltage with ease
(In winter, without stabilizers-130 (!) As I'm kidding, it's easier to lower it to 110 than to raise it to 220!)
This did not cause any problems for the stove!
For what a huge and fat PLUS!
That's kind of like everything for now
I will try other recipes
Until the bread. Then I'll try the cupcakes.
As new reviews appear, I will visit this topic and write my impressions!

P.S.
I apologize
That's right - panafarin !!!! Perhaps because I so shamelessly misinterpreted the name of the sellers, no matter how hard they tried, but they could not sell me what I wanted, because they simply did not understand what I was asking them about !!!

It's nothing that I'm so long and detailed !?
Rina
Zvezda askony, it is very correct that it is so long and detailed!
You now have a new hobby, in addition to dog breeding
And with the purchase, and with the first bread! first bread is like first love - only once in a lifetime
Lana
Quote: Zvezda Askony

Hooray, bought a Panasonic bread maker! First impressions and reviews
Here he is handsome in the context!
The crust is tender and crispy. Very delicate, airy, pleasant yellowish-creamy color.
Very fragrant, beautifully shaped.

P.S.
I apologize
That's right - panafarin !!!! Perhaps because I so shamelessly misinterpreted the name of the sellers, no matter how hard they tried, but they could not sell me what I wanted, because they simply did not understand what I was asking them about !!!
Zvezda askony
Each visitor to our forum understands you and shares the delight of the first such successful bread! 🔗
Right panifarin (gluten) - flour improver
Without which you can completely do by studying the materials of the forum
Replacement products in recipes, eg. Good luck!
Celestine
Zvezda askony, welcome to our family forum. And congratulations on the first bread
sazalexter
Zvezda askony Panifarin, like dry sourdough and malt (Glofu), is to be found in METRO and other hypers, it is useless, only in specialized stores for bakers
Rina
Quote: Zvezda Askony

Very tasty!!!!!!!
Even without anything! With cocoa.
And if also with butter, or with a Finnish fish -OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!
There really will be
Goodbye figure - long live his majesty - gluttony!
Zvezda askony, believe me, in fact, with homemade bread (if you do not get carried away with sweet rolls), the figure usually does not suffer. Do you know why? You are better satisfied with homemade bread. I know from myself - if earlier I could eat half a loaf of hunger in one sitting, now an ordinary piece of homemade bread is enough. I don't know why this is, but it's true! We began to consume half of bread!

And the livers of my father and me began to hurt less often, and heartburn practically does not happen.
zvezda
Zvezda askonyCongratulations!! Almost namesake .... you are not from our city by any chance .... a message flashed about a fish, but this is not available to all regions ..... Pugs just conquered me ...... let them enjoy their first bread too .. .. my heart would tremble ...
lidia55
I baked my first rye bread according to the recipe for a bread maker ..... it turned out excellent, you can eat it just like that, without anything .. very tasty !!! Now I am perplexed, what is the one that we bought in the store made of?
Zvezda askony
Quote: Rina72

Zvezda askony, it is very correct that it is so long and detailed!
You now have a new hobby, in addition to dog breeding
And with the purchase, and with the first bread! first bread is like first love - only once in a lifetime
Thank you!!!!!
I am very glad that I decided to buy a bread machine.
First stable
And what is very important! Found this wonderful site.
There are so many culinary ideas, Wow !!!!!!!
I have an airfryer and a microwave too.
There is somewhere bad with fantasy.
And then fantasy is not needed.
Look, choose and try !!!!
Zvezda askony
Quote: lana7386

Zvezda askony
Each visitor to our forum understands you and shares the delight of the first such successful bread!Hooray, bought a Panasonic bread maker! First impressions and reviews
Right panifarin (gluten) - flour improver
Without which you can do without, having studied the materials of the forum
Replacement products in recipes, eg. Good luck!
From all these additives I already have such a mess in my head.
I managed to buy a baking powder.
One Royal Canin branded tank is used for flour, muffins and other bags.
I peep out the candied fruit thoughtfully. Raisins found.
I'll have to study the section on raisin bread.
upset the site written in the primer.
Engineering dot Panasonic dot ru.
It was written that on this site you can find and purchase additional accessories for the stove through it.
Shoulder blades and others.
And there is not even a section on stoves
Video, photo, sea-spilled microwave ovens.
Neither 256 nor 257 are even available.
Not like accessories to them
But the corporate website
This is strange!

Quote: Celestine

Zvezda askony, welcome to our family forum. And congratulations on the first bread

Thank you !!!!!
First bread is the most expensive !!!!!!
In all senses.
He is the most long-awaited, the most "suffered" "!
And the fact that it "turned out" is very important for me.
Now you have confidence in your abilities!
Quote: sazalexter

Zvezda askony Panifarin, like dry sourdough and malt (Glofu), is to be found in METRO and other hypers, it is useless, only in specialized stores for bakers

Unfortunately, there are only three of them. And all are uncomfortable.
I will try to get to Ligovka.
Intrigued "Amaranth" and its flour.
Has anyone tried to bake with it?
And another question.
On the shoulder blades
So which one should you use !?
Regular or grooved?!?!
Quote: Rina72

Zvezda askony, believe me, in fact, with homemade bread (if you do not get carried away with sweet rolls), the figure usually does not suffer. Do you know why? You are better satisfied with homemade bread. I know from myself - if earlier I could eat half a loaf of hunger in one sitting, now an ordinary piece of homemade bread is enough. I don't know why this is, but it's true! We began to consume half of bread!

And the livers of my father and me began to hurt less often, and heartburn practically does not happen.

Surprising but true!
I noticed it. Delicious, but not much to eat.
It happened that soft store bread (white) could swallow half or even the whole loaf.
True, the body then "demanded" -SLEEP !!!!!!
Otherwise I won't be able to cope with such a volume.
And here it is tasty and mentally and incomprehensible gluttony does not arise.
Quote: zvezda

Zvezda askonyCongratulations!! Almost namesake .... you are not from our city by any chance .... a message flashed about a fish, but this is not available to all regions ..... Pugs just conquered me ...... let them enjoy their first bread too .. .. my heart would tremble ...

Thank you!!!! I am from St. Petersburg, or rather from the nearest suburb.
Many of us travel to Finland and bring fish from there. Oh how I love her!
For some reason, we don't have this tasty!
Pugs can't have bread! It is fraught with complications with digestion.
Only dried and black.
When I'm baked when it's black, I'll cut off a whole piece and put it to dry.
They need and useful bread made from peeled rye flour.
I haven't tried it yet.
I looked into the section, I was frightened of the difficulties and decided to leave it for later!
I'm a coward, I'm afraid it won't work out.
Quote: lidia55

I baked my first rye bread according to the recipe for a bread maker ..... it turned out excellent, you can eat it just like that, without anything .. very tasty !!! Now I am perplexed, what is the one that we bought in the store made of?
May I ask an immodest question?
Did it work the first time?
With a stove recipe or a recipe from the forum?
HP is also Panasonic 257?
"Bread House" makes some kind of powder - and therefore it quickly deteriorates - without even having time to dry out.
On "Loaf" they make with real yeast as it should be - that's why bread is more expensive, but it's tastier than anyone
sazalexter
Zvezda askony I use the scoop mainly "Rye" because of baking 90% rye breads, with whole grain flour and bran
I live from Savushkin, the same is not close, but I prefer to go to this particular store
lina
Quote: Zvezda Askony

From all these additives I already have such a mess in my head.
I managed to buy a baking powder.

baking powder is not uncommon, and is used for muffins (!). I mean that they don't suddenly add to the yeast - I understand that my head is spinning

I always use a simple shovel, regardless of whether it is 100% white or more than 50% rye.
It is better to take the rye bread recipe from the forum. There are also those without additives. the modes of your oven are similar to those of other Panasonic. By and large, the worst thing about rye bread is an ugly dome (despite the fact that the bread is delicious!).
TUSYA85
Hello everyone, welcome to your ranks! Today I purchased a Panasonic SD-257, help me to launch it for the first time, I did not find it in the instructions for a phased launch!
Thank you in advance!
Alena78
Bake the first bread the very first recipe from the book according to the main program. Press the buttons from left to right.
1. Program - BAKE
2. Do not press mode
3. Size - choose which one
4. Crust - set medium
5. Do not press the timer
6. START

All! Good luck!
Lana
Quote: TUSYA85

Hello everyone, welcome to your ranks! Today I purchased a Panasonic SD-257, help me to launch it for the first time, I did not find it in the instructions for a phased launch!
Thank you in advance!
Congratulations,TUSYA85 , with a wonderful purchase of HP Panasonic! 🔗
In your instructions to HP what's on page 8 - 9 ?
TUSYA85
It is written how to load the ingredients for baking bread, I get it. I just read that you must first start without components, such as calcination and to remove the smells of plastic and metal. Can I print and download products immediately?
And another question for the more experienced: _Can I do without measuring scales for flour? Maybe there is a trick for translating ml into gr?
Rina
Rinse the bucket and spatula in the middle (do not wet the outside!). To calm down, you can start the "baking" for 15 minutes, without a bucket. Then do not pay special attention to smells - the bread will not receive them.

I had a couple of weeks, or even a month, when the heating elements were working, the smell of plastic appeared. But I am sniffing, I can smell some smells even when others do not.
TUSYA85
Oh thank you very much, I'll bake it straight today, but I didn't buy a scale, it's scary to measure it by eye !?
Rina
The eyes are afraid, but the hands are doing.

Go to the section "Baking Basics" and read UNDERSTANDING BREAD IN HOMEMADE BREAD, be sure to pay attention to Kolobok's rule

and also read Simple white bread in moulinex "by eye". Reconstruction of events (this is not to be afraid)
Lana
Quote: TUSYA85

Oh thank you very much, I'll bake it straight today, but I didn't buy a scale, it's scary to measure it by eye !?
Read and good bread!
Rina
Please note that the volumes in the previous link are for more or less standard glasses / cups. Panasonic has a glass of 300 ml, it has 225 g of wholemeal flour "under the knife" (taken from here)
TUSYA85
Thank you girls! What would we be beginners, do without you, experienced bakers!
Rina
Would have stumbled over what the first bread makers stumbled on
Zvezda askony
Quote: sazalexter

Zvezda askony I use the scoop mainly "Rye" because of baking 90% rye breads, with whole grain flour and bran
I live from Savushkin, the same is not close, but I prefer to go to this particular store
Thanks for the answer!!!! I'll know. Then I will focus on this particular store. You just have to make a list first. And then I will always collect a bunch, but the necessary is not! I didn't buy caraway seeds and glaze today.
As a result, I bake a cake and, along the way, frantically search for a recipe for the simplest icing.
It seems to have found it.
And then there are sprinkles, but as I understand it, sprinkles will not hold without glaze.
Now you still need to figure out how to check whether the cake is baked or not.
I'm baking a recipe from an ABC book. Only did not put the dough alternately of different colors and added raisins.
In 10 minutes the result will be known. Oops !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1
What will happen!?
... I'll find out soon!
REQUEST to experts !!!!!!!
Please answer in the topic at
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...m_smf&topic=45751.new#new
I'm waiting !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! With hope!
Zest
I came to grumble ... the stove fails ...
Once - in French mode, the second - in normal mode.
I have sinned at everything that is possible, including flour. But it was with her (flour) that the muffins were baked just now - it's normal ...
Fuck, I've never seen such vybryk. Moreover, I did not use it to the fullest, it was more baked in the oven.
sazalexter
Zest Are you pulling out the plug from the network? You need to hold it for more than 45 minutes without the network, so that it will reset to zero. And I would change the same flour and yeast, for completely different ones.

All recipes

New recipe

© Mcooker: best recipes.

map of site

We advise you to read:

Selection and operation of bread makers