Giraffe
We have already gone to Samsung for the 19th year. Satisfied, no words. But I can’t say anything for the models that are on sale now. It's time to look for a new one (and more, more) And I'm at a crossroads.
Gata
Girls and boys, who are users of modern samsungs - tell us how you have shelves. I looked in the store for a long time - otherwise it suits me optimally, but the shelves ... more precisely, the fact that they, one might say, are not rearranged - for each shelf there are two positions with a difference of 4 centimeters and that's it. That is, if you set it high, you just need to pull out one shelf, which is not ice at all.

In general, at first I chose from samsa, skis, burning, bosch / siemens, aeg / electrolux.

On Boshi, people strongly complain about the volume and quality, and, in general, the Russian assembly scares me a little.
Gorene, everything I saw, without total know frost, and I don't want to cry, but maybe I was looking for them badly, I'll also look at their brand and MediaMarkt. So, in principle, I'm still considering them.
We only sell Eldorado in Electrolux, and that is one model, and I will definitely not take from them. But until I deleted it, in the end, there are online stores.
I wrote about samsa above - everything rested on the shelves, I feel I will go to the store with a ruler I will scare the sellers
The left ventricle is left, but it has handles (but with a repeller), and the kitchen is small. While I think.

In general, I am very interested in the opinion of Samsung users, but can anyone else comment on what on my list.
Mar_k
Quote: Zhivchik

For me, there is no worse LG refrigerator. Literally a year later, the enamel on the door began to crack. My men sometimes grabbed not by the handle when they opened it, but by the door. So, in this place, every race warped and peeled off. The enamel layer on the refrigerator is very, very thin.
At first, the freezer froze well. Now the ice cream is soft. And on the bottom shelf, frozen fruits are soft too.
The summer before last was very hot, and so the refrigerator began to work very loudly.
In general, I'm not very happy with the LG refrigerator.
My mother-in-law has a cheap Samsung. So they only open it with their hands (not by the handle). The enamel did not peel off a bit. So much for the vaunted LG.
Yes, it's sad! Let's look further, thanks!
SilverLily
Quote: Gata

Girls and boys, who are users of modern samsungs - tell us how you have shelves. I looked in the store for a long time - otherwise it suits me optimally, but the shelves ... more precisely, the fact that they, one might say, are not rearranged - for each shelf there are two positions with a difference of 4 centimeters and that's it. That is, if you set it high, you just need to pull out one shelf, which is not ice at all.
The shelves are normal, they can be washed well in the dishwasher.One really is permanently removed and serves as a spare - if something in the refrigerator accidentally spills or even the shelf gets dirty, then I remove it once, and in its place I immediately attach a spare one. They can be taken out and inserted easily, but they sit in their place very securely, not one has yet slipped out, no matter how I load it.
Gata
SilverLily , I had no complaints about the shelves themselves - I have complaints about their arrangement, but if you pull out one shelf, there will be only 3 of them
This photo is from a slightly different model, but the one that I like looks almost the same.
Refrigerator selection

3 shelves are enough for you or do you have a different arrangement?

It's just that there are just 3 shelves in my current refrigerator, well, only the freezer is larger than my current one
SilverLily
I have this (only gray one):
Refrigerator selection
Three shelves are enough for me, I am one (parrots and snails do not need a lot of space in the refrigerator), the fourth (I repeat) I have a backup.
Sima
Purchase report. I chose Samsung with a pull-out shelf.I haven't even seen it live (only a picture in the in-store). It turned out to be outwardly better than in the picture and the wide bottom shelf (what doKhtur ordered). Light beige handsome. Day four - normal flight (pah-pah-pah).
SilverLily
Congratulations! I looked at the website - is there only one pull-out shelf or is it all? I really like retractable
Is he such a handsome man with leaves on a beige background?
Gata
Sima, but tell me the model? And then I still can't decide - a lie or a samsung. I like Samsung, but the shelves ....
Sima
Quote: SilverLily

Congratulations! I looked at the website - is there only one pull-out shelf or is it all? I really like retractable
Is he such a handsome man with leaves on a beige background?

Thanks for the compliments. And it seems to me that it looks like marble. Maybe this is another comrade, or I'm not getting enough. She told everyone that the straight lines are marble .... One shelf is moving out.
Sima
Quote: Gata

Sima, but tell me the model? And then I still can't decide - a lie or a samsung. I like Samsung, but the shelves ....

RB29FERMDEF size is not large, but this is what I needed. 19 thousand. Virobleno in Poland. Look at the assortment of brand stores, but you can order at any. I, of course, like the big 2013 edition, but not yet needed. I can't say anything about the shelves yet. I put a watermelon - 6kg. Did not bend. I plan to place a huge cake on the bottom (remove the box with the vegetable), but it won't be soon. Already on everyone I look after something for support from below (saucepan). And about the replacement (order) of the shelves, she herself wanted to look for info.
The ski smelled bad inside (three of mine smelled, and then strangers started), and there is a lot of marriage. An acquaintance of mine used to work with technology (she has a Samsung for 4 years already). I remembered about her at the last moment. Now she is responsible for my choice.

I don't want to return it - that's still a process. I work enough in trade (take out my soul, if that) and I know how they do not like returns.
Sima
Gata, I have a different shelf layout. Mine is below. The shelves are also located differently on the door. I wanted that there was no shelf on the door at the bottom, and then the lower shelf in the refrigerator itself would be wider. All these bottles and jars on the doors take away useful space ... Maybe I explain it in Turkish, but somehow
Giraffe
And my daughter and I decided that we needed a new refrigerator. And what, the freestanding freezer is clogged, there is also a chamber in the refrigerator. I buy whole salmon and I have nowhere to put it, if that. (this is an argument for my husband) And I haven't frozen peppers, grapes, etc. In general, they announced their decision to my husband, now we choose. I looked at the proposals and in confusion. Noufrost is 7 cm lower than usual, while losing 50 in liters, due to what? Displacement is an important indicator for me. I want more, more and pills for greed. Available noufrost home refrigerator. So I think if it's so problematic to defrost. I need to defrost the freezer, but there is such a coating inside that the ice falls off very quickly, I sweep it away, wipe the walls and put everything back.
In short, you need to start Temka again. Especially places where noufrost and usual are compared.
Qween
Quote: giraffe

So I think if it's so problematic to defrost.

Tanya, modern refrigerators do not require frequent defrosting. I defrost mine only when I want to thoroughly wash the inside, and this happens very rarely. Probably once a year. At the same time, ice is present in very small quantities and only on the upper shelf of the freezer.
Defrosts very quickly, and does not bother at all. I also thought for a long time to take a know frost or an ordinary one, and because of the volume, an ordinary refrigerator was chosen.
Giraffe
So I'm looking at the volume. And the price is much more attractive. The freezer was also defrosting due to its volume. Doesn't bother at all. Only 185 cm. I tried on with a friend, the top shelf is only from a stool. But nothing, let's break through.
Giraffe
I am looking now at this INDESIT SB 185
Refrigerator selection

Main characteristics
Number of doors 2
Total volume, l 339
Type two-chamber
Cooling system static
Control type mechanical

Energy class B

Number of compressors 1

Refrigerating chamber volume, l 235
Defrost system cold. drip chamber

Freezer
Freezing capacity, kg / day up to 6
Freezer volume, l 104
Location frost. cameras below
Defrosting system frost. cameras manual
Dimensions (HxWxD), cm 185x60x66
White colour

miscellanea
INDESIT brand
1 year warranty
Country of origin Russia
ledi
Good morning! I have an ordinary Whirlpool firm, I chose it because of the large upper chamber. I'm happy! Volume is very important to me personally! There can be six 3-liter jars on one shelf in my refrigerator. And I don’t remember the height 180cm or 185cm. It defrosts quickly, the ice layer is not big. I try to defrost (it is written in the book) 2 times a year. Before the start of the fruit season and before the new year. : girl_love: I love it!
ledi
Tanya, he has class B, look with class A. It will consume less electricity
Giraffe
And how now such BIRUSA 131 there is a freezer more
Refrigerator selection
Number of doors 2
Total volume, l 345
Type two-chamber
Cooling system static

refrigerators compartment
Refrigerating chamber volume, l 210
Defrost system cold. drip chamber

Freezer
Freezing capacity, kg / day 7
Freezer volume, l 135
Location frost. cameras below
Defrosting system frost. cameras manual

Control
Control type mechanical

Safety
Storage after power failure, h 17

power usage
Energy class A

Compressor
Number of compressors 1

Color, dimensions and weight
Weight, kg 72
Dimensions (HxWxD), cm 190x60x62.5
White colour

miscellanea
BIRUSA brand
3 years warranty
Country of origin Russia
Giraffe
Quote: ledi

Tanya, he has class B, look with class A. It will consume less electricity
So this is understandable, I am now looking at the volumes from what is available. Now Biryusa already looks nicer, but I don't know how the company itself.
ledi
I have a WHIRLPOOL ARC 5453. But maybe there are none already, he is already 6 years old
Giraffe
There was no such firm at all. I, by default, do not consider Atlanta
ledi
🔗 Here we have it. Oh! and the height is 187.5 and he also has some sort of Tropica system. for our hot summer the most it. Maybe someone will come in handy
Arinna
: hi: My Atlanta is 17 years old, the last 6 years he has been living in the country. Moved many times. I got an exceptionally good refrigerator. In the absence of light, it keeps the cold for a very long time. Truth began to click lately, I hope, we will manage with light repairs. It’s a pity if it breaks, now they don’t make them, probably.
Taia
Quote: giraffe

So this is understandable, I am now looking at the volumes from what is available. Now Biryusa already looks nicer, but I don't know how the company itself.

The parents had a Biryusa refrigerator. My mother was very pleased with it, changed it not so long ago only because she wanted a new refrigerator. I have an Indesit refrigerator. It is not cheap, but in reality it is cheap. I really don't like him.
Giraffe
The fact that we have been working for decades is one thing. As for quality today, that is a question worthy of Hamlet.
Arinna
Quote: giraffe

The fact that we have been working for decades is one thing. As for quality today, that is a question worthy of Hamlet.
Lottery, you don't know what you take.
Sharpe is at home. They strongly doubted its quality, but it fit in size and color, Malaysia or something, I don't remember. There were a lot of them in the store with dents. We took a risk, it turned out to be what we needed.
Stafa
Tan, I had indesite for 8 years, all the boxes in the freezer and for vegetables began to crack for 3 years somewhere. Moreover, almost all refrigerators from this segment have such nonsense. I have not heard such problems from my aunt and friends who have Samsung and lies. Having a noufrost refrigerator right now and before that simple - I won't buy noufrost anymore, once a year I even wash and rake all the stuff from the freezer - well, into a stump, and this type of stalatite from the freezer -
ledi
But you still need to periodically put the freezer in order, and the upper chamber too.Or do you have no deposits in your freezer? I almost every year throw away old frosts of vegetables and fruits and put fresh ones :) Yes, and simple is less harmful
Stafa
It is necessary from time to time - but without completely disassembling all the contents and defrosting the entire chamber. And about harm - so simple is harmful to the nerves.
And deposits do not exist for sure, I have learned to deal with this - I try not to buy a lot for the future. We use all the blanks for the winter and spring so that there is no remaining for the next season. Moreover, I have a very successful freezer with drawers and a two-tiered drawer - when I pull it out completely, I see everything that is there, practically without rustling the contents.
Admin
Quote: ledi

But you still need to periodically put the freezer in order, and the upper chamber too. Or do you have no deposits in your freezer? I almost every year throw away old frosts of vegetables and fruits and put fresh ones :) Yes, and simple is less harmful

I have a 6-drawer Bosch freezer, which is many years old! There are no complaints about freezing and storing food!
But, the freezer must be turned off and defrosted at least once a year !!!! It freezes too well and a lot in the upper part, where fruits and food are directly frozen (like an evaporator in a refrigerator) and this is a feature of the freezer! This frost does not depend on whether I have something left over from last year or not, it can form within a year, on the amount and frequency of freezing food! So at the end of the freezing season, you have to take out the boxes, take them to the cold, wash the freezer and then put all the boxes in place. This is the design of the freezer!

The Liebcher freezer does not have such a phenomenon, there is an independent defrosting of ice there constantly all year round. There are no complaints about the quality and storage

So draw a conclusion and choose what to do
gala10
Girls, can I put in my 5 cents too? My friends bought Indesit noufrost, after 4 months the refrigerator stopped working. Changed under warranty again for the same. After 4 months, the freezer stopped working. Changed to Samsung, 2 years old, mmm, it works fine. And I have been living with Indesit (noufrost) for 9.5 years. Right now, plastic parts have just begun to crumble. I am also in search and meditation. I know that it will be a total noufrost, not Indesite, energy saving class A +, climate class SN-T. But what kind of company has not yet been decided. I like Siemens, Electrolux, Liebherr, but I also have to look at the country of origin.
Crochet
Quote: gala10

Changed to Samsung, 2 years old, mmm, it works fine.

Here I am mine Samsung happy for the most!

We are really still almost a year old ...
gala10
Quote: Krosh

Here I am mine Samsung happy for the most!

We are really still almost a year old ...
Crochet, I have a question: does it get very hot side surfaces? And they scared me with this, so I don't consider Samsung.
CurlySue
Quote: gala10

Crochet, I have a question: does it get very hot side surfaces? And they scared me with this, so I don't consider Samsung.

gala10 ... I don’t remember the Samsung letter ... 44 With a temperature display.
Tall, 2 meters with a penny, with a large bottom freezer. No frost
3 years already.
Right now, at your request, I went to feel the refrigerator.

Yes, the side panels are slightly warmer than hand temperature. I think 40 degrees.
But, since almost everywhere in all apartments below there are baseboards, you still won't push the refrigerator close to the wall. I have a gap of about 2 cm.
So what difference does it make if the sidewall is a little hot?

works great, there is no mold anywhere in the refrigerator.
In the section for vegetables and in the section with zero temperature - vegetables and fruits can lie for a month without any problems and not spoil.
Only vegetables that by themselves give off moisture, half-open store the package (such as cucumbers or started head of cabbage), otherwise, dry out over time.

I am VERY glad that I took this refrigerator in due time, did not spare money on it.
gala10
CurlySue, Thank you! That is, Samsung is also worth considering ...
CurlySue
Quote: gala10

CurlySue, Thank you! That is, Samsung is also worth considering ...
Very worth it!
Especially if the Polish assembly.
Although, when I bought, there were Russian assemblies and Polish ones.
The Russians, alas, were not praised.
I took Polish.
I also have a Polish Hotpoin Ariston cooker, one of the first induction models.
I was happy - like an elephant. The convection oven is just a fairy tale. But, when we moved to a new house, I had to sell it to my new owners of the apartment, since we do not have 3 phases in the house, and their installation is $ 1000, it is cheaper to buy a new gas stove.
I miss her to this day.
gala10
Quote: CurlySue

Very worth it!
Especially if the Polish assembly.
Although, when I bought, there were Russian assemblies and Polish ones.
The Russians, alas, were not praised.
I took Polish.
And there are also Samsung Korean assemblies. Who knows, but how are they?
Gata
gala10, heat dissipation through the side walls (in fact, because of which they heat up) only in the Korean assembly of Samsung. In Polish and Russian - through the back wall.

There are many owners of Korean Samsung on khbit - you can read it. But the general impression (read only half of the last part of the topic) - people seem to like it.
gala10
Gata, Thank you!
Sima
Quote: gala10

Crochet, I have a question: does it get very hot side surfaces? And they scared me with this, so I don't consider Samsung.

About heating the side surfaces. My Samsung (Polish assembly) got SO hot on the first day that I wanted to call the service center. They hooked up in the evening, and at night I went to hug him
In the morning the fever passed. The workaholic was gaining temperature in the cells, and the hostess tortured with hugs.
CurlySue
Quote: Gata

gala10, heat dissipation through the side walls (in fact, because of which they heat up) only in the Korean assembly of Samsung. In Polish and Russian - through the back wall.
I disagree. I have a Polish assembly. At least the inscription on the box said about this (and, it seems, some letters in the name of the model indicate exactly this, but I don't remember ...
And I know English well, I looked at the box carefully, because I was looking for it so that they would not slip it on me. assemblies
Unless they gave me a Korean in Polish packaging. But I, in principle, do not mind.
gala10
Sima, Thank you!
Gata
CurlySue, there is another option that the Poles collected using Korean technology. But in general - were your walls hot all the time or were they only at the very beginning?

Shl. Anything could be written on the box (for example, the boxes were mixed up in the store), but what is written on the sticker? I will say right away - I do not question your words with my question, I just ask in order to figure it out for myself. In general, for Korean refrigerators, the heat dissipation system through machine tools and, accordingly, double walls is, one might say, traditional, but when part of the production was transferred to Poland, the Poles removed one wall and made heat dissipation in a more familiar way for us and Europe - through the back panel. Considering that refrigerators are constant sources of heat generation, the walls are heated almost constantly.

And my choice ended unexpectedly - the old refrigerator burned out - so I made the choice according to my own criteria, but from those models that could have been brought "just wait." According to the characteristics, everything suits me, let's see how it will be used. But I hope that we will make friends with him

ZYY. All the same, Internet shops are great - I ordered it in the evening, they will bring it today, otherwise I would be without a refrigerator ...
tat-63
Girls, who has Samsung, tell me, can you completely remove the shelf that is being put forward or not? and for bottles too
Sima
Quote: tat-63

Girls, who has Samsung, tell me, can you completely remove the shelf that is being put forward or not? and for bottles too
The shelf is removed. For bottles, simply attached to the top glass shelf. The shelf is pulled out and the metal structure for the bottles is removed. The shelf can then be returned to its place and that's it.
gala10
Well, girls, I finally made my choice. This is a Polish assembly Samsung, a total noufrost. Ordered in Enter, deliver on October 3.Then I will share my impressions. Thanks to everyone who helped me make my choice!
Sima
Quote: gala10

Well, girls, I finally made my choice. This is a Polish assembly Samsung, a total noufrost. Ordered in Enter, deliver on October 3. Then I will share my impressions. Thanks to everyone who helped me make my choice!
Congratulations on your purchase!
Gata
In general, who suddenly comes in handy on the issue of heated walls.

I bought a Samsung just Korean assembly. The walls are heated. They are quite noticeably heated. But this is perceptible for me, I am generally sensitive to hot, and heat is very warm, etc. are still strongly subjective concepts. They warm up to about 43-45 degrees. They gradually heat up and also gradually cool down. And I, it turns out, was wrong in my previous message - the walls are not constantly heated. If you often open the refrigerator, then the intervals between the heating stages will be shorter (or so it seems to me). Quiet, in the next room with an open door, provided that the hall is near this very door, you can't hear it (you can hear it in my tiny little kitchen, but it's quiet). The sound is similar to the sound of a cooler from an open system unit.

Refrigerator - happy
gala10
Well, now, He has arrived ... He is still standing in the hallway, waking up from the road. Tomorrow we will put in place and connect. First impression: very roomy, beautiful, tall (2m after the old one - 1.67). And we will see how it will work ...

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