Rituslya
Sneg6, Olik, with a stove! What a beauty!
I also stare at her, but the price is confusing. It would be cheaper.
Alluswhat a crumb your breads have!
Sneg6
Mandraik Ludmila, ladnomarina, Rituslya, Thank you! I put some bread, I'm waiting)




Rituslya, Ritual, but the price of course bites. I bought in a German store, it was a little cheaper there. Now the price has been raised.
Marysya27
Sneg6, Olga, congratulations, beautiful blonde Let only pleases.
Ritunya,
ladnomarina
Marysya27, Hats off virtually! Thank you for such a detailed review. And the truth is, when I added a little water, the bread turned out to be perfect, and the roof was even, and the sides. I have strong flour, with 14% protein, and when the water is not enough, the roof curls in places.
Sneg6
Marysya27, Thank you!
Baked. I'll show you the cut tomorrow, I went to bed)
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ladnomarina
Marysya27, Well, the bread is a feast for the eyes, and such a cupcake only in your stove will turn out. With seeds, such a roof is convex, and the barrels are even, handsome!




Olga, With a start! Good bread!
blagorod
Quote: Rituslya
I also stare at her, but the price is embarrassing. It would be cheaper.
In my personal account, Wildberries already costs 17,700 (14% discount and 10% personal promotional code), when everywhere there are 22-23 thousand
Marysya27
Hello everyone
Sneg6, Olga, Rituslya, ladnomarina, Marina, thanks for your attention and kind words
More bread


Wheat-rye (on the machine) according to the "Menu1" recipe with the addition of wheat sourdough:
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Discussion and reviews about the Panasonic SD-ZP2000KTS bread maker
The same bread with the addition of rye sourdough:
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Discussion and reviews about the Panasonic SD-ZP2000KTS bread maker
Discussion and reviews about the Panasonic SD-ZP2000KTS bread maker
Whole grain with seeds ("Menu5") with the addition of wheat sourdough:
* (after the end of the program, it remained in the oven for a couple of hours)
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ladnomarina
That's what I understand, bread! Someone I'm starting to love this stove. Thanks for the photo.




Marysia, you should already use recipes, very worthy bread, it will be useful for everyone who bought this stove. Yes, and we are here in the bushes, we lick our lips on her
velli
Sneg6, Olga, you have got a pretty, neat little bread! if possible, write what recipe it was baked. I want to bake in my favorite Brizushka.
ladnomarina
valentine, I have been looking at Brizushka for a long time. How does the baking in it differ from Panasik?
Marysya27
Good day everyone
We are with bread


Whole grain with seeds (recipe from the book, + sourdough):
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And only with sourdough (in the preparation - 750g). Baking on "Cupcake" ::
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velli
Marysya27, Your bread is just lovely! beautiful and delicious! I only bake white bread, but I have never baked rye with sourdough, something I'm afraid of them. I don't even have sourdough, but how to bake with dry yeast?ladnomarina, Marinochka of course bread and there and there delicious is different in the shape of a loaf; Brizka has it round, Panas has a brick. The upper crust in Panas is slightly paler and softer than the lateral crust, in Brizka the crust is the same everywhere. Discussion and reviews about the Panasonic SD-ZP2000KTS bread maker
Marysya27
Hello everyone
A few breads Bakery is very happy


All baked with the addition of leaven.
C / z with seeds (Menu 5):
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"Rustic" (Menu6):
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Wheat-rye (Menu1):
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I tried a new one. "Basic bread with additives" (Menu 10)
On prescription:
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Size L, light crust. Replaced water in the recipe with milk + whey. Added, in addition to the recipe ingredients, 150g of sourdough + 20g of whey.
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Discussion and reviews about the Panasonic SD-ZP2000KTS bread maker
The same bread in a lean version, even without butter. Added over the recipe 180g of sourdough and 30g of water. And, in addition to the raisins according to the recipe, another 130g of dried cherries. Bread to go, so only a general view:
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Discussion and reviews about the Panasonic SD-ZP2000KTS bread maker
It will probably look like pie in the cut


velli, Valyusha, and what kind of bread are you interested in? thirty%; 50% rye flour? Wheat-rye? Or any
Svetlenki
Marysya27, Alla, I take off my hat to you !!! You are so smart! With a smile, with detailed reports, you have achieved excellent results with this stove. She is undoubtedly with temper, but you have tamed her! BRAVO!

Thank you for sharing with us and showing your achievements!
Marysya27
Svetlenki, Svetochka, thanks for the praise. All breads on the machine, unattended. This is amazing! And it helps a lot
I am waiting for the time to appear so that I can try my favorite recipes under the machine.
At night "Cinderella" tried "Rustic" with a crispy crust:
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The incision is still hot
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Already cooled down:
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ladnomarina
Marysya27, I admire your bread, very appetizing. It's so good that you opened the possibilities of this stove to us. Now boom to want her definitely
Marysya27
Hello everyone
And in the afternoon, the stove tried "C / z with seeds" (Menu5, with a crispy crust). No oil added + 150g sourdough + 20g more water. Only a general view, since they have already taken it away:
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Barrel:
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* I returned a little later, so I was "waiting" for me after the completion of the program for about an hour. I thought that I would become completely "dark-haired"
ladnomarina
Marysya27, creditable bread! It's time for you to draw up a bread recipe, there will be such a wealth of recipes for a new oven.
Marysya27
Made a cut "C / z with seeds" already from today's night:
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At work, we treat ourselves to "Derevensky":
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And at this time at home is preparing fresh for dinner
Marinochka, thanks for the encouragement. I'm working on a little more
ladnomarina
Marin, modify and spread. I describe my bread in detail, post it, and then review it, and wonder if I really baked this beauty? And the girls use the recipes, they say thank you. True, on the forum, I still cannot get a separate recipe, in the topic of Tartlets and Co., I share the Tea Gazebo. Basic in OK. And we, bread maniacs, already want your stove, and recipes for it.
Sedne
Today I made sourdough bread on a 6 hour program (I added a little yeast), amazingly tasty, chic program. I always add yeast to sourdough bread, I like it more. The bread came out very high, airy with a crispy crust. The only thing, I usually take out the bread 5-7 minutes before the end on programs with a crispy crust.




Quote: ladnomarina
Basic in OK. And we, bread maniacs, already want your stove, and recipes for it.
All recipes for bread makers are suitable for her.
Marysya27
Hello everyone
Quote: Sedne
All recipes for bread makers are suitable for her.
Sedne, Svetlana, I will study on the sly and correlate with programs
Marinochka, and in the "Tea Gazebo" I will look. Or maybe you can give links to your breads, if possible
I also really like the results on long-term programs. Although others also do not let me down I did, when the situation allows, on the first program (with a short batch), start the batch twice, and then you can run away. While the working basis is recipes from the book for the oven + sourdoughs (wheat and rye). First, I want to deal with them in different variations. Decide on favorites for the family.
Here is "Wheat-rye" (Menu1) with the addition of rye sourdough. It turned out more rye-wheat:
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Discussion and reviews about the Panasonic SD-ZP2000KTS bread maker

ladnomarina
Marysya27, cool bread turned out! Now I only cook the dough in the bread maker, but I bake it in the oven. I baked on fruit yeast, and tried it on zakaask, but it never caught on. I didn't like the characteristic sourness. If you have a sourdough, then there is no point in removing fruit, they do not give sourness, but are less stable.
Marysya27
ladnomarina, Marina, thanks. I have two favorite starters that have been living and working for many years. Sometimes I play with new ones. Now I'm trying to output "Levito madre". It is interesting to see the result. And I bake bread both in hp and in the oven
ladnomarina
Marysya27, I posted rye in the Panasonic theme with a photo. There is a dose for 2 forms of 1.5 liters in the oven. The author made the dough in the oven, baked with steam for 20 minutes at 200g, and 30 minutes at 180g. https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/ga...419/20190501_083435-1.jpg
Marysya27
Marinochka, Thank you


Today "Village". This one is just a recipe:
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Discussion and reviews about the Panasonic SD-ZP2000KTS bread maker
Discussion and reviews about the Panasonic SD-ZP2000KTS bread maker
And with the addition of wheat (50%) sourdough (210g + additional 30g of water):
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ladnomarina
Marysya27, mouth-watering breads, and tempting crust
Marysya27
ladnomarina, Marinochka, here is a variant of bread according to your recommendation from Krustinushka:
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Delicious and aromatic First slice is still warm:
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From all sides:
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Quote: ladnomarina

... On the main baked: 200g water, 50g sour cream, 10g sugar, 1 hour. lsalt, 1 st. l with a slide red malt, 1 h. l yeast, 300 flour c. with and 90 rye.
+ added: 0.5 tspl. salt; instead of sugar, honey (total - 20g); total malt - 28g (st. l. ordinary, with a slide); wheat leaven * (50%) - 210g; serum - 30g).
I cooked on the "Basic with a crust" (Menu1), where the batch is 10 '. Just in case, I interrupted the program 30 'after the start. Launched it again. And she left. The machine was working, without my peeping and peeping
* Starter culture:
Discussion and reviews about the Panasonic SD-ZP2000KTS bread makerSourdough "The Simplest"
(Marysia27)

ladnomarina
Marysya27, Hi! And the bread turned out to be a feast for the eyes! Smooth, and the cut is cool! I'm glad that I liked the recipe. We also have Westphalian Passion bread from mamusi very popular, the girls are delighted with it. I'm going to bake everything, no whey. I'll throw you





Rye-wheat bread "Westphalian Passion" (mamusi)

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Mandraik Ludmila
Girls can bake this bread on water, without changing anything in grams
ladnomarina
Buttercup, but really, you can mix sour cream into the water.
Marysya27
ladnomarina, Marinochka,: rose Mandraik Lyudmilka, thanks, I'll try today I made cottage cheese, serum 6l available
Girls, what is the duration of the "Rye Bread" program in your oven? It is indicated in the recipe.
Mandraik Ludmila
Quote: ladnomarina
you can also mix sour cream into the water.
Marina, and sour cream is still fat, and I would not recommend it, just for water - easily, but for sour cream, you can get a thick dough ... The dough is almost like putty
ladnomarina
Marysya27, Hi! Rye program 3h 30 min. Kneading there for a short time, and a little proofing.

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Marysya27
Marinochkathanks for the guidelines
She baked "Passionate" bread on her "Rye" (5h). Not without "passions" Here is a piece of crumb:
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The crust turned out for sure. Cooking on the machine. Yeast put 1 hour. l., not 1 1 / 4h. l., since the program is long. I ran home when the baking had already begun. Everything would be fine, only the dough looked like a puree soup
Yesterday I just downloaded everything with the recipe. Without first reading the topic. Today I specially read "inside and out". Only in one message I found:

Quote: mamusi
AND ... after adding one spoonful of flour in the top photo (because the flour is different - the bun seemed a little thin)
Looked at the book of recipes for hp. There are slightly different ratios of liquid and flour in the versions of rye bread.
Bad luck. She didn’t bother with the sad but edible result. The taste and aroma are very pleasant. The size is small. My crust (shell) has already been crumbled. I'll try it more with supervision. Reduce the amount of liquid or add flour.
* I will definitely report on the topic of the recipe. Only after the next try. To balance the message and "photo boast"

Mandraik Ludmila
Marysya27Even with so much wheat flour, this bread does not have a standard kolobok. As a rule, this is generally a mass similar to putty. And on the machine it is very difficult to get a beautiful version
Marysya27
Buttercup, Thank you


I understand that there will be no standard. Today I saw in the subject of the recipe the author's photo, what a bun should be. But there was none, not even a type of putty. It looked like a mess.
The flour is still different. 100% my joint It is necessary to control the batch, especially when meeting, in any recipe
In general, this type of bread is used to cook only with sourdough.

ladnomarina
Marysya27, Well, do not be upset, my ... I've bought a whey, and I'm afraid to approach this bread, there is a whole epic with him, they discussed it with the whole chorus, baked it. I can assume that 5 hours is a lot for rye flour. It requires short kneading, a little proofing and longer baking times.
Mandraik Ludmila
Quote: ladnomarina
It requires short kneading, a little proofing and longer baking times.
Yes that's right. Ritochka and I experimented with this recipe together, but I love pure rye, so she brought everything to mind. I baked this bread today, though I didn't have malt. Kneading for 5-7 minutes, detuning on yogurt in a multitude, baking in it, but at the end I put the airfryer lid for 30 minutes. My roof is flat, in my case it will serve as the bottom


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Marysya27
Hello everyone
Tests Levito madre starter culture:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...om_smf&topic=407872.0#bot
Bun, recipe:
Discussion and reviews about the Panasonic SD-ZP2000KTS bread makerImperial buns (Kaiserbrotchen)
(Stеrn)

Only with sourdough and raisins. 750g blank; baking on the Keks program; 55 ':
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Remains of "Derevensky" with the addition of rye sourdough (100%)


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Made a take Ritochkin
"Passionate".Under supervision
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Barrels:
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Incision:
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To the norm of the recipe: + 20g c / h; + 60g rye flour; + 0.5h l. salt. Whey + water - 340g (i.e. -20g)
I cooked on program 4 "Wholegrain / Rye bread" with a crispy crust (duration 5h; steeping 1h-1h30min.) At 2.45 on the timer, I took the bucket. She took off the stirrer. I formed a blank. At 2.35 I returned the bucket to its place. And until the end of the program, that is: 1 hour 40 minutes; baked for 55 minutes.

ladnomarina
Marysya27, Hello my! You won the Westphalian, well done! And I like the rustic crumb. The sourdough loaf looks rather dense. And I baked custard with malt using a recipe book on rye. The roof is flat, but the crumb is baked, the taste of marmalade ...
anna_k
Need advice. I designed this stove for 15754 at wildberries. Now I have a panasonic 2502, it’s worth it, it’s bored.
There is very little time for cooking, no time for frills, crooked hands.

So I think if I need this HP ... My husband says that he will also stand.

What attracts is the small size of the loaf, well, the crust, as well as the declared ease of preparation.
Waist
Anya, in principle, if you are not as creative as some bakers, and you don’t have time for a minimum / bookmarking of products, then you should not buy a new HP. It will differ from your 2502 only in the crust, and even then, the crust of a small loaf in 2502 will also be stronger and more tanned.
2502 also makes bread easily itself, and a small one can be baked.
Small-sized wheat bread in a standard form. (author - Countryman).
Mandraik Ludmila
anna_k, I will join, to the opinion of Natasha, if you do not bake in 2502, then you will not be in this oven either. The control principle of Panasonic in all stoves is the same.
Marysya27
Quote: anna_k
I wonder if I need this HP ...
anna_k,
Quote: Waist
not worth buying a new HP.
Also because I like the result with a crust on larger loaves.
Wheat with crust, 1 program, with the addition of sourdough and double kneading:
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ladnomarina
Marysya27, oh, what a bread! Ffse, pulled off the crust (virtually)
Marysya27
So that's where the crust went!
ladnomarina
Marysya27,
Scarecrow
Now I have carefully looked through the instructions for this oven - finally, the Panasonic employees have given birth to a timer for the Dough mode. But! For pizza dough only. Well that's why ??? Why doesn't the timer spud in any way for the bread dough? Oooh ... I use the timer on the test very often. By a certain time (when I get up in the morning or when I come home from work), I need pancake dough, for example, or dough, dough for tortillas, dough for buns ... I don't have a huge problem, because I have Zodzhirushi. Her timer works in any mode. But why is this such a problem in Panasonic? Previously, it did not work in any test mode at all.

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