mamusi
I can only say about WB that I took exactly the technique twice. Children's Blender-Steamer for a long time and Ves electrik Soup Cooker, just the other day.
I checked it there at the point of issue. Everything worked. Household appliances are working properly. If it doesn't work, then you simply DO NOT redeem. And that's all.
There was no need to handle the return / repair.
But the fact that they do not take the thing "back", as we shall say Ozon or Yulmart, is true. They are sent to the workshop under Warranty.
And this is not good!




However, if your Oven works properly at the Dispensing Point, it should work at home as well. Panasonic shouldn't let you down.
And you need to check by turning on. The lights are on, is the mixer spinning?
You can turn on Baking / Cupcake for 30 sec
Check if it's warming !?

Good luck anyway.
blagorod
Are there any quick checks to evaluate the operation of the stove, except for an inspection for mechanical damage and plugging it into a power outlet? Maybe just this service mode is used to check tendencies and stirrers? To check right away and not to run afterwards with returns.
mamusi
Quote: blagorod
Maybe just this service mode is used to check tendencies and stirrers?
Why not?
If I had this knowledge when buying my stove (I do not have this stove, Panas2501), I would have checked it then
But I took it in Yulmart. There was a return within two weeks. No problem.
Just turned it on, spinning, uraaa !!!
Check with WB shorter!




Quote: blagorod
to evaluate the work of the stove
Also, wait for the girls sedne and marlanka.
They have new stoves. They will suggest the best trick when checking.
blagorod
I don’t know how to use it (service mode) yet, I read here in the thread that by pressing three buttons at the same time you can put the stove into test mode, there seem to be two options: heating (proofing) and kneading.

OK, thanks for answer! I hope the stove will come safe and sound😀




Quote: mamusi

Why not?
If I had this knowledge when buying my stove (I do not have this stove, Panas2501), I would have checked it then
But I took it in Yulmart. There was a return within two weeks. No problem.
Just turned it on, spinning, uraaa !!!
Check with WB shorter!



Also, wait for the girls sedne and marlanka.
They have new stoves. They will suggest the best trick when checking.

I'll wait, they write to me that only 5.02 come to pick up.
marlanca
Quote: blagorod
by pressing three buttons simultaneously, you can put the stove into test mode

Yes, just do it and check the ten and the stirrer ...

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julia_bb
blagorod, I hope everything will be fine with HP. I also look at it on WB, the price is good compared to other stores and is still in stock
marlanca
I also took it to WB, mine was in its original packaging, I did not even open it ...
mamusi
Quote: marlanca
Also took in WB
Galya, it's good that you shared this, because I'm looking at her too ...
Sedne
Quote: marlanca
I also took it to WB, mine was in its original packaging, I did not even open it ...
Same.
julia_bb
Girls, thanks for writing
We must take it until "ours" are taken apart
blagorod
Quote: julia_bb

blagorod, I hope everything will be fine with HP. I also look at it on WB, the price is good compared to other stores and is still in stock

Does not allow inserting a link, in general there are still options to order an oven from Germany, but there all the menus are in German and you will have to pay for the delivery. There is both black and white. White is somehow cheaper.

Found on the website mirtechniki (dot) net
Models:
white Panasonic Croustina SD-ZP2000 (17000 without delivery);
black PANASONIC SD-ZD2010KXH (18500 without delivery)
Delivery, as I understand it, within 3000 rubles to Russia.
I don’t know how the quality of Panasonic is the same for Russia and Germany?
Sedne
Quote: blagorod
I don’t know how the quality of Panasonic is the same for Russia and Germany?
Yes, this xn is the same, they did not change the programs, and left the European ones. But buying in Germany, you can fly with a guarantee.
marlanca
Quote: Sedne
But buying in Germany, you can fly with a guarantee.

For the same reason, I did not order it from Germany .... if anything, then the refund will be more expensive, and money and nerves ....))))
mamusi
I did it with the Cloer Waffle Iron. Ordered (the son gave) to Computeruniverce from Germany. Shipping cost the same as the waffle iron itself.
Then, as a result of the malfunction (I wrote them a complaint directly to the store))), without even expecting any reaction, BUT they answered me and ... ATTENTION (!) ... returned the money to the card!
No problem and no product checks! To which I was extremely surprised.
Naturally, no one returns money for postage and delivery.
... But even so, it's nice.

I bought the Unold ice cream maker there 5 years ago.
Everything there flawlessly. But expensive, of course. And she walked for a long time.

HP is an expensive product, I will not risk it from Germany. Afraid.
Svetlenki
I'll write again for reference. If the purchase is made on Amazon and Amazon is the seller, then within a year (for Europe, even three years), in the event of any defect, you can return the goods back, and Amazon will pay the postage for the return upon providing a receipt confirming the shipping costs (even in PDF format).

Amazon also offers a partial refund of the cost of the goods as an alternative.
Sails
Only today I saw that Temko was made on this stove. I also bought it at Valdberiz. I didn't check anything, so I looked that the box was not unopened, new, just issued a guarantee, a seal was put. I came home and was stunned by the recipes that durum wheat flour was written everywhere. (I didn’t guess that these were translation costs) I was so busy on the first program with durum wheat bread, only I had to add more water than in the recipe. The bread turned out to be very tasty, so peculiar. Have already devoured everything.
mamusi
Who has experience buying goods on Wildberries? Sharing experiences?
Maybe write a few words here, Elena.

I really want this HP, but it is not a "rational desire".
Since my 2501 is enough for us! But here you go! I want to. Why do I need two HP?
$ vetLana
Quote: mamusi
Why do I need two HP?
They bake differently. There is also an upper ten (if I understood correctly). And "in reserve"

On HP, even if you don't really need it, they will tell you that, show you what you want.

mamusi
Quote: $ vetLana
so they will tell, show what they want.
This is yes !!!
Sedne
So I made 2 more bread
Crispy
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And with a soft crust (with a weak crust)
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As you can see on the weak crust bakes, too, be healthy.
Creamy
Sedne, but can this oven bake normal ordinary classic bread with a soft crust?
mamusi
Quote: Sedne
soft crust (weak crust)
Look at her picture)))
julia_bb
Quote: $ vetLana
On HP, even if you don't really need it, they will tell you that, show you what you want.
I agree! I also have Panasonic for a long time, with one at home, the second at the dacha. Where the 3rd is not clear
Sedne
Quote: Creamy
Sedne, but can this oven bake normal ordinary classic bread with a soft crust?
The second bread with a soft crust, that is, ordinary, came out very tasty.
Svetlenki
Quote: Sedne
came out very tasty

tastier than the analogue in your 2512, Light? If you were offered to bake such bread in one of them, which one would you choose?
Sedne
Sveta, no, this program is the same, all the same 4 hours. I'm baking here for now, since I removed it.
velli
Sedne, Svetlana, your breads are very beautiful and somewhat resemble in shape and appearance from Brizka. Or did it seem so to me?
Sedne
Quote: velli
Or did it seem so to me?
I like this Panasike more.
blagorod
Hello, today I will go to get the oven, I have not used a bread maker before, so the recipes suitable for this Panasonic model are interesting. In the topics there are posts with recipes for different Panasonic, will they fit the new stove? If possible, drop your proven recipes here 😀




I got the oven, it seems to work, I started whole grain bread in half with wheat bread according to the recipe from the Panasonic book for 5 hours, let's see what happens.
marlanca
blagorod,
Congratulations, let it only please ...

Today I baked bread for sandwiches, with onions and flax seeds, with a regular crust, I put 10 prog, but I put the oven in the mold ...))), as soon as the oven switched to heating, I put it in the mold,

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proofing 1 hour, rose to the top

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And I switched to baking for 1 hour, the result pleased ...)))

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Maybe someone will come in handy with this option for baking bread, with a brick ...)))
fffuntic
what a charm Beauty is beauty beauty. Continuous delight
It is very interesting now to see the classic rye in it. What kind of crust will there be?
mamusi
Galya, beauty!)
Quote: blagorod
drop your proven recipes here 😀
blagorod, good recipes are already collected on the site. There is no need to even throw them here!
Go to recipes and choose.
And the Recipe Book can be trusted. They are verified. Start boldly with them!
marlanca
fffuntic, mamusi, ....

Quote: fffuntic
It is very interesting now to see the classic rye in it. What kind of crust will there be?

Lena, as we finish this one, I will ...
mamusi
blagorod, take a look here, here we are all "hanging out" - the owners of different Panasonic. The recipes will be common.
The first page contains many useful baking tips and recipes are there.
There are always more people there. Will give advice!
Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502, SD-2510, SD-2511, SD-2512 ... (4)
marlanca
I'll show you the section ....)))

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Olga_Ma
marlanca, Galya, excellent bread
marlanca
Quote: Olga_Ma

marlanca, Galya, excellent bread

Ol, I liked the bread very much, the crust is thin, but crispy, the bread keeps its shape, does not wrinkle when cutting, it is perfect for sandwiches and sandwiches ...
blagorod
I baked whole grain wheat according to a standard book, there are 200 g of whole grain flour and 200 of premium flour. The first time it worked, the bread maker is almost silent, the bread is delicious with a crispy crust.




Quote: mamusi
blagorod, take a look here, here we all "hang out" - the owners of different Panasonic. The recipes will be common.
The first page contains many helpful baking tips and recipes to eat.
There are always more people there. Will give advice!
Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502, SD-2510, SD-2511, SD-2512 ... (4)
Do they have the same baking time and the choice of the program itself?
Mandraik Ludmila
blagorod, and a photo, show bread, please post it!
Rituslya
Cool stove! ZdOrovskaya!
I am not in the subject at all, one might say.
I just want to ask. Tell me please.
My kneading and proofing on program 13 in Panasika takes 2 hours and 20 minutes.
And then how long is the process without baking?
blagorod
Quote: Mandraik Ludmila
blagorod, and a photo, show bread, please post it!

I tried it, but according to the rules of the forum, I cannot upload photos / links from third-party resources, as a beginner.




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Happened
Mandraik Ludmila
So it also does not turn out flat from below, which I had not seen before. Khlebushek turned out well, straight "bun, bun, I'll eat you"
Sedne
Buttercup, well, the bucket is oval.

Gorgeous bread maker, Panasik made me happy.
Helena
Girls and boys, congratulations on purchasing a good bread machine! Maybe I will soon be ripe for a purchase.
blagorod
The mixer was only difficult to remove from the mold, the dough got into it and dried / baked during the baking process, but still managed to get it out.
marlanca
blagorod,

An excellent bread came out, but for the first - beyond praise ...

Quote: Sedne
Gorgeous bread maker, Panasik made me happy.

I am also very pleased with her ...
blagorod
The weight of the finished bread in program 4 turned out to be 580 g
Mandraik Ludmila
Quote: Sedne
Well, the bucket is oval.
Sveta, so I first saw that the sides are oval, and that the bottom - I just saw
blagorod, and why get the mixer?
blagorod
Quote: marlanca
blagorod,

An excellent bread came out, but for the first - beyond praise ...

Thanks 😀👍

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