Scarecrow
Quote: CroNa

I wonder how flour and, accordingly, pizza dough differ from ordinary ones? I often make pizza on regular bread sourdough dough.
I want to understand how much I am losing. :-)

Elasticity. The pizza dough is sooooo stretchy and elastic because the pizza is pulled out rather than rolled out. And the sugar content. The pizza is baked at an extremely high temperature. Flour with a high sugar content burns in this case.




Quote: Rituslya

Galina, I, for example, do not see any differences in this matter either.
I only somehow distinguish (and that is by the inscription on the package) flour of hard varieties from soft ones. The first is more elastic in products, and the second is more lush and airy.

They are even different in color. How so?
Sofita
Rituslya, this is Mom Mia t / s I bought it, I had a 30% discount on flour and all coupons for her for a whole year, and this month they sent something that was not needed at all, and so all 12 coupons. Well, you can still mean on red what to take. Maybe others will send it later.
Rituslya
Quote: Sofita
it's Mama Mia t / s
and which one?
I honestly twisted both bags from all sides to read about hard varieties. But it's all about soft.
Probably, blindly and did not make out something.
Sofita
Rituslya, yes, there are two bags: one orange and a girl in a green dress - this is a t / s and the word "grits". And the second bag is green and the girl in red is another flour. They were 5 kg and 10 kg. It's just that I can't drag off 2 bags of 10 kg, even in a cart. And before it could easily. Therefore, I bought different 5kg. I have already made macaroshki out of it. The groats are very good, I even baked delicious bread from it.
Crown
Quote: Scarecrow

Elasticity. The pizza dough is sooooo stretchy and elastic because the pizza is pulled out rather than rolled out. And the sugar content. The pizza is baked at an extremely high temperature. Flour with a high sugar content burns in this case.
With elasticity it is understandable, I saw the Italians how they stretch the pizza dough, but after all, strong flour will not interfere with bread either. Empirically, I learned to distinguish between strong and weak flour, but I don’t know what to do with sugars, but nothing seems to burn, and okay, not to fat. :-)
Scarecrow
Crown,

Nooo, bread needs a certain balance. And different breads are different. While at one time (long ago) I had the first bag of manitoba 25 kg in use, I played enough and felt it in action. I understood what real strong torment is. It would seem that then bakes are from one manitoba and this will be the most ideal bread. Nifiga. If only it were that simple. )) Raising bread from one manitoba for yeast is like trying to inflate a heating pad)).

On sacks of Italian pizza flour, sugar is indicated. Americans love flour with a high sugar content. They have already developed their own style of pizza. Italians use less sugar-loving. Because they love the frantic temperature of the Pompeian oven and open fire. I now have a bag of 25 kg. It is indicated on it.
Crown
Scarecrow, yes, I agree, especially with the fact that everything is not so simple, but a bag of flour specially for pizza is too much for me, I'm not such a big connoisseur. :-)
I don't use manitoba, forgive my dullness ;-), ordinary flour can also be strong, it can withstand prolonged kneading and additional kneading, the bread comes out lush and not crumbly, but they don't write about it on our packs, we have to check it empirically.
Natalia K.
Quote: Rituslya
and which one?
I honestly twisted both bags from all sides to read about hard varieties. But it's all about soft.
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Mist
Finally I got to leave a review on my nozzles)
Lucky, we got up like a glove, no complaints. The shells came out immediately, but I still need to get used to the second squiggles, but on the whole I'm happy. Made from t / s flour + egg and water
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Svetlana777
Irina, wonderful shells, I agree with the latter, you need to somehow get used to making them, but in any case, you did great. (you can't remember all the owners of which one, because the question is, do you have a small one?
Mist
Yes, I have a little elephant)
Natalia K.
Quote: Mist
Lucky, we got up like a glove, no complaints.
Ir, it's very good that everything is fine.
Ira, do you want to order the spirals?
I already got them all with these spirals
Mist
Ira, do you want to order the spirals?
Natasha, I'll take a little while, and then time will tell
Natalia K.
Quote: Mist
wait a while
I'll also wait a while. Wishlist may burn out

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Pirozhulya
And today I am a little elephant
Irgata
Pirozhulya,
Natalia K.
Quote: Pirogue
And today I am a little elephant
Pirozhulya, Congratulations
Now we are waiting for you to try the elephant and share your opinion
Masha Ivanova
Pirozhulya, Congratulations! Now for the nozzle and for the flour!
Pirozhulya
It's scary to do it for the first time ... I know that according to the recipes for sure, in the instructions and the recipe book everything is laid out on the shelves
Durum flour will arrive after the weekend .. at home only the highest grade and buckwheat.
I want to try the recipe tomorrow with an egg ... I didn't dare today




So I praised my elephant, I think wait kaaak I'll disgrace myself if it doesn't work out .. tomorrow morning I'll be myself and I'll try
Rituslya
Pirozhulya, my most sincere congratulations! Let the pretzel serve for a long time and don't know wear and tear!
The main thing is to put the scales away, and use only measuring cups.
And the flour? ... I think that anybody will succeed.
It will work, it will work! It will definitely work out!
Natalia K., Natus, uuu, I have not seen such a piece in the Metro. In general, this Metro had a very meager assortment of flour.
But today I bought 7 packs of hard semolina in Dixie.
I was worried that I would not get it.
Uh-huh, who needs such goodness in such quantities besides me ?!
Natalia K.
Ladies, I found the spirals from two sellers. Please tell me how they differ?
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gawala
Quote: Natalia K.
Please tell me how they differ?
At a price. one has 20 dollars, another has 18 ..
LudMila
Who has 18 (khanhdanshop), it is to him that the complaint, inattentive, he sent me the wrong nozzle.
Girls with the wrong size or not received attachments, but which of the two "tried"?
Natalia K.
Quote: gawala
At a price.
Gal, that's what I understood. To this product, which has a nozzle of 18 dollars. a lot of complaints. After all, all our ladies and I including (but I was lucky with a square nozzle) bought nozzles from him. Now I'm thinking of who to buy the spirals from.
Quote: LudMila
Girls with the wrong size or not received attachments, but which of the two "tried"?
Ludmila, this one who has 18 (khanhdanshop)
Svetlana777
Quote: Pirogue
And today I am a little elephant
My sincere congratulations!! Let it please you the first time, the main thing is not to be afraid, everything will work out!
OlgaGera
Pirozhulya, Congratulations!
He brought me the son of my elephant. I don’t donate))))
Rituslya
OlgaGera, Olik, that's all!
With a big pretzel, dear! Let it serve for a long time and not know wear and tear.
Now, in hot pursuit, you can probably compare small to large.

I also want a lot. Even my husband has already agreed, because the pasta is simply delicious.
OlgaGera
Quote: Rituslya
compare small to large
Dkva, I'm even tired of the day. Tomorrow the son will visit with the grandson. I'll try to wash and compare tomorrow, but I don't promise.
My son has a five-year plan in 9 days. And visit my parents, and fish and ... and ...
Svetlana777
OlgaGera,
Congratulations, even if this one does not disappoint !!! We are waiting for impressions
OlgaGera
As soon as possible, I will unsubscribe.
Some kind of virus in the subject. I already looked at the nozzles, even hummed inside. Not no ... Well, I don’t know sales already))))
Lanna
Pirozhulya, congratulations on your purchase! It’s good that they decided and didn’t take any "leftists" from whom they chose! The elephant will delight you with delicious pasta)))
OlgaGera, Olya, congratulations too! Let everything work out with great!
Virgo, you need to wash so that they find a common language !!!
Irgata
Tonight I walked in the courtyard with my tails, a neighbor and my husband walked past from the garden, treated them - 2 gave tomatoes, cucumbers, a couple of peppers, a zucchini, and I was right at home, somehow I quickly got two quick egg spaghetti on Viva, long and short , but how I brought it to the neighbors - - otherwise, yeah! Stir your vegetables, boil spaghetti and sauce and
And so what would you give?
Ilmirushka
Quote: Rituslya
I also want a lot.
Rituslya, what for? What was it about? And I realized, compare-choose-get rid of the unnecessary, then yes, we approve
Svetlana777
Quote: Ilmirushka
understood, compare-choose-get rid of the unnecessary, then yes, we approve
did not understand, is this a hint of a baby?
Rituslya
Not. Give and donate a small one, since there are already those who wish, and a big one for themselves, so that it is more reliable.
I am still afraid to increase the portion in my own, as if something else would fall off.
And for the big one, even the consent of her husband was received, he really liked these macaros.
Ilmirushka
Quote: Svetlana777
is this a hint of a baby?
Sveta, nope, I do not allude to CHO, everything suits me.
As I expected, my baby elephant adorns the collection of all sorts and proudly flaunts in the most prominent place (for now).
I do not use it often, not at all, but I am glad that I have it.
At the same time, the set of his nozzles is enough for me, I don't want any more.
I like some purely visually, but
Quote: Rituslya
Give and donate a small one, since there are already those who wish, and a big one for themselves, so that it is more reliable.
Rituslya, well, that's great
Svetlana777
Quote: Rituslya
And for the big one, even the consent of her husband was received, he really liked these macaros.
it's great that you also made friends with macaroshkas and my husband likes it, successful search for a big one, let him get it at an adequate price

Quote: Ilmirushka
I don’t hint at anything
okay, tady I forgive, no more current, there was not any hint of a baby, let him live and please
Quote: Ilmirushka
I do not use it often, not at all, but I am glad that I have it.
a similar situation.
Quote: Ilmirushka
At the same time, the set of his nozzles is enough for me, I don't want any more.
no, personally, I practically don't use them, I would have had enough of 2 finally - square and angel hair, without them, no matter how
Ilmirushka
Quote: Svetlana777
2 finally would be enough for me - square and angel hair, without them, no matter how
I, probably, too, but no and no trial. I'll go ... start the car romishelek stir up the tunnels for lunch, this is my youngest vermicelli as a child called

Quote: Svetlana777
okay, tady forgive, no more current, there was not any hint of a baby,
well glory to those hospodi
Pirozhulya
Girls, again with my "rams" I will make spaghetti for the first time) I will not turn on the device until I read all the papers 100 times.
In general, the instructions for the egg-water mixture need 85 ml. (Baking flour, is this premium flour, does it mean or not?) And in the recipe book for the highest grade of flour, 80 ml of egg liquid is needed.
So how much to pour?
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Irgata
Quote: Pirogue
So how much to pour?
be guided by the glasses, read the topic - that's all, everything has been negotiated. Watch the video - you can clearly see what kind of crumb should be.

There will be crumbs of dough, there will be macaroons.
Ilmirushka
FSE, we are full! How great, lunch in 20 minutes! Here are my fettuccines, to which Element stewed vegetables, I blended them, came out a wonderful vegetable sauce, well, beauty is simple! Pasta machine Philips HR2355 / 09
Masha Ivanova
Ilmirushka, Ilmira! What kind of flour did you make these pasta? I'm not talking about the recipe, but about the fact that they are so strong! And you, like, said that you never bought any durum flour? So are they of the usual premium class? Or how?
Rituslya
Pirozhulya, pour flour into a glass for flour, without tamping in any way. Carefully remove the excess "under the knife". Try it with whatever flour you have right now.
Break an egg into a glass for liquid and add liquid to the 80 ml mark. Whisk gently with a fork.
Try it. It's scary the first time, but then adjust.
Do not use scales.
Ilmirushka
Masha Ivanova, Len, you remember everything correctly, I have not been honored. And this is 1/3 rye and 2/3 ordinary wheat, but 1st grade. 1 egg + water = 80.
Masha Ivanova
Ilmirushka, Ilmira! It looks just like solid flour. Wonderful ones!




Pirozhulya, here Rita gave you a recipe, behind this recipe Ilmira's recipe. Try these. But still, even the same flour in two different apartments may have different humidity. Accordingly, slightly different amounts of water may be required. Try it. And be guided by the resulting crumb.
It won't work right away, it will work a second time. The main thing is bolder. And success will certainly come!
Ilmirushka
Quote: Masha Ivanova
It looks just like solid flour. Wonderful ones!
I myself wonder and think, is it really necessary, this "solid" flour ...
Here is my rye, the most common
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Masha Ivanova
Ilmirushka, Ilmira! Solid mainly for dietary reasons. The taste, of course, is also slightly different, but this is for gourmets.
Listen! So you guys seem to live in Krasnoyarsk ?! After all, there are probably Metro and other chain stores.
And Mamma Mia is very often in the Metro. And grits (hard) and for pizza, by the way, also Mamma Mia. This I mean at normal prices. "Italian" also happens, but permanently expensive, of course.
Ilmirushka
Quote: Masha Ivanova
So you guys seem to live in Krasnoyarsk ?! After all, there are probably Metro and other chain stores.
live, eat, but everything doesn’t ... You have to set a goal straight. In general, they bring to us, disassemble. Apparently, they don't carry a lot, or vice versa, they buy a lot.
Svetlana777
Quote: Ilmirushka
and I think, is it really needed, this "solid" flour ...
and you buy, try and then decide whether you need it or not. Personally, I make almost entirely from TS, mine is so tasty, even when rolling noodles I also make noodles from TS
Quote: Rituslya
up to the 80 ml mark.
, oh, edrit madrid, and I use the label where 1/2, thinking that it is half a serving for 1 glass of flour, and what I am doing wrong
Rituslya
Quote: Svetlana777
i use label where 1/2
I will not find such a mark on my glass. But, in fairness, I do not always accurately fall into 80 ml, but even more at 85 is obtained.

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