Dishwasher selection (2)

And I read everything and dream of a dishwasher. I can't buy it yet. But I read the topic, so that it would be easier to choose later.

[Midea]

: crazy: I looked closely at the dishwasher firm Midea, the model is like this Midea WQP8-9347, and this one MIDEA WQP12-9348, and BEKO DSFN 6831 X and BEKO DSFS 1530... Maybe someone has live experience in using these models. Please share. I want a budget and energy-efficient and high-quality machine.

There are a lot of eyelids here - read Temko .. and you will just "type" reviews ...

[vega1981]

vega1981, or I inattentively read Temko, or I don't remember Medea's brand.

Not Meact, and Midey. I also do not see her in the subject. Manufacturer China, after all, we are all from different countries here, so I wonder who else has one, about Veko already more or less an opinion, if I don't find Midischikov, I'll probably take BEKO DSFN 6831 X.

[beam on the floor]

: - \ And I still didn't quite understand what kind of function this is - beam on the floor, what is it for?

[beam on the floor]

: - \ And I still didn't quite understand what kind of function this is - beam on the floor, what is it for?

I don't have this, but, as I understand it, in the built-in PMM, it can be seen whether she finished washing or not. Maybe some other indicators such as time to end or something else is displayed on the floor. I have a freestanding one and there are buttons on it that light up and show what the machine is doing now and when it has finished washing. But about the end of the sink, I know for sure the girls in Temko wrote.

As far as I know, Midea is a well-known manufacturer of air conditioners, we have one installed. Do they also make dishwashers? This alignment does not inspire confidence.

You need to watch it live. It may well turn out to be a decent dishwasher. I have just such a case.

My friend bought a Midya bread maker and is very happy with it. So they make everything, not just dishwashers and air conditioners.

And today we bought a PMM! We have to deliver on Wednesday. We chose Siemens SR64M001RU

And today we bought a PMM! We have to deliver on Wednesday. We chose Siemens SR64M001RU

Congratulations! and I was recently in search. and now, I'm sitting here writing ... and the dishes are being washed

Finally, I became the happy owner of PMM VEKO 6831. Respond to someone with the same model. What program do you use most often and what tools?

Tatyana, congratulations on your purchase! I have 6833, as I understand they only differ in size (mine is 60cm). Recently I have been using the "children's" program - there seems to be an additional rinse. In principle, all programs are normal, except for the car - I did not like it. First I bought the powder that is everywhere - the finish, and now in the Watsons store I bought Domol powder for the promotion 1 + 1 = 3 (by the way, until April 28, if you have such a network, you can hurry). For the price it came out cheaper and for the quality of the sink I liked it a little more.

In principle, all programs are normal, except for the car - I did not like it.

What's wrong with Auto? I just have my favorite Auto program.

nothing was laundered, but I have a machine for only 1.5 months, I used the car once or twice, maybe it will be rehabilitated in my eyes later

My Bosch is also bad at my car. Most often I use the "intensive wash 70C" program.

I will write my own review about the Beko din 5834 dishwasher. (Can anyone come in handy)
I have a whirlpool dishwasher since 2006 in an apartment, now I needed a machine in a country house.
Since the exact same whirlpool has already been taken out of production and you can't buy it, after reading reviews on the internet I chose between Bosch and Beko.
We saw Bosch and Beko live, inside they are very similar. I can't compare a Bosch sink with a Beko, I can compare it with a whirlpool - I still like Beko more.

-The third cutlery drawer is a cool thing (it is not for the full width of the car, but it turned out to be very large) The lower drawer fits more into the saucepan!
-There is a third rocker sprinkler above this cutlery drawer.
-turbine drying only for long programs.with turbo drying it dries very well.
-Mechanical control buttons are not very pleasant, in the whirlpool I have a touch type.
- the machine is light, the whirlpool is much heavier. I think that the heavier one is of higher quality, this is IMHO.
- it fits more dishes into this beko than into a whirlpool. although both are 60cm. all sorts of folding strips och. conveniently.
- with Calgonite it washes smartly. also mine with Almavin (organic) - it washes well, but sometimes the cups of tea are not washed. added oxygen bleach Almavin - everything is washed off.
- good fixings for the kitchen front. my husband connected the machine and hung the facade himself.
- found the so-called "dead zone" in the leftmost corner of the upper drawer - a tall narrow glass does not open well there, I solved the problem by putting a 250ml cup there. such a cup opens with a bang!
- my whirlpool outside the city reacted to voltage drops by simply cutting it out. Beko does not react to voltage drops (t-t-t). what och. pleases!
Bought for 410u. That is, a similar Boshik costs twice as much. Two years warranty.
While I write, the machine washes the dishes
If you have any questions about this machine, ask!

Dear owners of the VEKO 6530 machine! I have to you - to ALL - a huge enormous request! I urgently need your help in testing the PMM ... More precisely, it is necessary to conduct "reconnaissance by force" .... Help is as follows ... I ask you to set the salt value to 5 and "drive" the machine on a 20-minute program at least twice. If someone initially has a salt value of 5, then please tell me if this program works correctly? That is, it does not jump in time, as it was with me? (I wrote above .. but I repeat .. on a 20-minute prog, it washes normally up to 10 minutes, then jumps to 24 minutes and mine again 24 minutes, a total of 34 minutes on this program).

[* Anyuta *]

* Anyuta *, I have it true, beko 6830, but the short 20 minute program also does not work correctly. Does not depend on the value of the salt. It just works out its 20 minutes, and it washes until the last minute, then the countdown starts again for 20 minutes, 19, 18, etc. Until 11 minutes it just stands, then it starts drying until the last minute. That is, in fact, this program runs not for 20 but for 40 minutes, just after 20 minutes you can turn it off and take out the wet but clean dishes.
For me this is not important, but I will be glad if the information is useful to you.

[Nikasa]

Nikasa, thanks, the information is VERY Important! But it's still a fundamental question ... What is the value of salt that you have set? I wash normally with 1-3, that is, the prescribed 20 minutes, if I put 4-5, glitches begin ...

and the process you described is exactly the same as mine.

Anyuta, I have 4 salt. 5 also works. I'll come back in the evening, start at 2, we'll see. By the way, the second program works in a similar way, which is 30 minutes 35 °, that is, it runs for 60 minutes as a result.

Anh, on my bosha, the time of real washing has never coincided with what it shows when the machine is started. But I wash my car now and it is honestly purple for me, how long that machine washes, the more it does it at night. By the way, it is the same on the washing machine - the initially shown does not coincide with the actual one. But almost always less than stated.

[which are perfectly acceptable]

Light, I described my problem in detail in the topic of breakdowns ... It does not matter to me how much it washes on programs .. there is a jump, that is, the error from the declared one is 75% - and this is not 10-15%. (which are perfectly acceptable) ... respectively, the cost of electricity and water consumption increase significantly .. for the fig do I need this?
why I am fundamentally interested in this question - yes, because the case is pending trial - the judge is shocked that the service CANNOT make a quality assessment, and two expert organizations are busy until August ... Yesterday, it got ridiculously ... The COURT (!) Will make a request to an authorized center (and we have only one), with a demand or an explanation why they refuse to make a "product quality assessment" and refuse me to be present during the examination ...

[r5]

I'll go check it out. I just don't find a piece of paper where it was written how to set the salt, I have it on "1" now. Tell me what to hold when turned on? (Beko model DIN 5833 Extra) As if she remembered herself: hold down the program selection button, turn it on with a "timer" r5, press Start. It seems like that, I went to wash it on a quick program.
I see the answer, it means that the salt icon is still on there correctly, because on other buttons there another menu will climb

I left the forum for an hour, because I have at least 30 minutes of washing, I will follow the PMM.

So! I washed it once, because in the morning all the dishes were washed, and now only three plates were barely found. Was washed in a four, everything was in powder, sticky-slippery, washed with my hands.
Program number 2: 30 minute wash. In fact, 47 minutes 30 seconds.
Stage 1 - washing with powder (it seems that the powder compartment then worked)
2 and 3 stages - rinsing, a few minutes of inactivity,
Stage 4 - draining the water a couple of minutes before the end of the program.
On the scoreboard 0:01 and then oops! 0:18 where from? PMM lurked, does not turn on the turbo dryer, does nothing at all, a minute before the end of the countdown, it drained the water and highlighted End.

Tell me what to hold when turning on? (Beko model DIN 5833 Extra)

ON / OFF button + program selection button - this is mine .. hold for 5 seconds
The button start the program and the delay start selects and sets the salt level .. If it is not clear - I will write in more detail

[* Anyuta *]

* Anyuta *, just ran off on rinsing (20 min, first program). I set the salt to 2, and, miraculously, the machine worked for exactly 20 minutes! I didn’t dry it, but I didn’t jump back to the beginning, it just showed the End of washing and that’s it.
So most likely this canoe is for all bekoshes.

Now I wonder what the owners of other models will say ...

I am now tormented by the question .. WHY are such races on only one program? And why doesn't the manufacturer mention this?

[On the scoreboard 0:01 and then oops! 0:18]

Program number 2: 30 minute wash. In fact, 47 minutes 30 seconds.
Stage 1 - washing with powder (it seems that the powder compartment then worked)
2 and 3 stages - rinsing, a few minutes of inactivity,
Stage 4 - draining the water a couple of minutes before the end of the program.
On the scoreboard 0:01 and then oops! 0:18 where from? PMM lurked, does not turn on the turbo dryer, does nothing at all, a minute before the end of the countdown, it drained the water and highlighted End.

PMM with aquasensor? Mine does this only on the Auto program. Adds time if she doesn't like the "haze".

[GERMANY]

Girls, a new piece of information from the battlefield ... in short ... the assumptions (so far these are the assumptions of the master and already the result of some calculations / recalculations) showed the following ... that test strip and recommendations for setting salt hardness correspond to .... attention. ... for GERMANY... and not Russia .. and the program in the machines is also wired for GERMANY ... that is why such a glitch may occur, since the content of various impurities in the water in our countries is different ....... Now the service provider is still once "matches" and then we will think what to do ...

I read about your experiments, saved up dishes for dinner and went to torture my assistant, who faithfully served me 2 years without 2 weeks.
My eyelid is 6530. Salt at 3, before (before the move) it was at 4. I hardly use the 20-minute program, the machine does not have time to properly wash or dry the dishes on it, and not for washing, but for "removing food residues on the dishes, which will be left in the car for a few days. " Quick & Clean is different! When at the beginning I was playing with the settings, I noticed that on the 1st program, the PMM somehow went without stopping to wash in the second circle, in the end it simply did not use this program; in addition, after the forced cancellation of the program and its change, a completely different time is set (NP, 1h34min instead of 1h55).
BUT, I am completely satisfied with my assistant !!! When 2 years ago a local store, after much persuasion (well, they did not want to get involved with the CENTURY) and 2 months waiting for 6830 models, brought (after agreeing with me, of course) 6530 for 15,000 rubles, I was quite happy and realized that it was not worth expect miracles from PMM, which costs 3 times cheaper than Bosch with similar functions.
And now on the case.My experiment fully confirmed Pansy's observation: the 20 minute program. At the 12th minute, the PMM drains the water, collects it and again (immediately) drains it. At the 10th minute, the time jumps to 24, water is collected, the process of washing / rinsing with hot (much more than 35 grams) water is in progress. At 15 minutes, the PMM begins to drain water and dies down, the drying icon is not displayed. At 2min, the pump turns on, buzzes for 2 minutes, the PMM turns on the sign of the end of work, having previously highlighted the drying sign for 1se. The result is hot, dry dishes.
I apologize, if I didn't respond very quickly, I can't always find the time

OlchikO, I express my HUGE gratitude to you ... you just can't imagine what it is !!! I have time until the next court hearing - another 2 weeks!
and now read the post above - why is this happening!

By the way, Anya, I already wrote that such a failure occurs in two programs - for 20 minutes and for 30 minutes.
And only now I noticed: the instructions say that on the 20-minute program there is no washing, but rinsing with COLD water without detergent. But in fact, the water heats up at least 40 degrees, and maybe more! (I tried to open during the washing process, the steam from there poured very hot)

PMM with aquasensor? Mine does this only on the Auto program. Adds time if she doesn't like the "haze".

And the manufacturer knows it. Glass and two plates were washed, and there was no dirt, only the powder could contain turbidity. Tomorrow I will return the salt to "1" and wash it again.
P. S Beko - isn't it Turkey? Sounds somehow implausible about Germany

[Algorithm of PMM operation at maximum salt values]

P. S Beko - isn't it Turkey? Sounds somehow implausible about Germany

Beko - Turkey ... The program is "sewn" for Germany ..

Now this version has disappeared ...

Documentation was sent from the factory that it was allegedly like that "Algorithm of PMM operation at maximum salt values"... Now we urgently need to involve Aunt Besya (as a lawyer) to clarify .... namely .. it turns out that the manufacturer gives inaccurate / incomplete information about the product ... The question ... who should be responsible for this: the store or manufacturer?

Well, I came., I just read and understood little from a purely technical point of view
I correctly grasped that a strip test was made for a water hardness test and, in accordance with the result, the position of the salt regulator was set. In this case, the machine does not work correctly on a certain program.
There is an official response from the manufacturer from Germany that the firmware of the program installed in this model of the car is designed for Germany. So?
If yes, then you were sold a product not adapted for the Russian market, this information about the consumer qualities of the product was not brought to the attention of the consumer, therefore we are dealing with a violation of consumer rights. A claim can be made to both the seller and the manufacturer, but it is better to the seller, because it is more accessible. The manufacturer could generally ship this batch to another country, where the seller bought it.

[Aunt Besya]

Aunt Besya Elena, no, not really. As I understand the situation, initially, the manufacturer did not provide information about the PMM operation cycles to either the consumer or the service center. But this is a common practice. In my instructions, the modes are also not prescribed, what and how the machine does. Simply on one of the programs the machine washes for longer than indicated in the instructions, this is the whole "fuss".
Here is the first message https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=31278.180

Well, in short, here and my Bekosha began to jam ...
I noticed the day before yesterday .. and yesterday it happened again .. I describe the situation ...
Model BEKO DSFN 6530
Installing program 1 (Express - 20 minutes) ..
The program starts working and ... gets lost in time ...
The display shows the countdown in reverse order .... (in brackets I indicate the time from the timer, which I started together with the start of the machine)
20 minutes-19 minutes-18 minutes-14 minutes - 13 minutes (16:10) - 12 minutes (15:20) - 12 minutes (15:20) - 11 minutes (13:14) - 10 minutes (12:30 ) ......from 10 minutes, the machine jumps to - 24 minutes (11:37 - restarted the timer for 24 minutes) ..... I did not track the time here .... 10 minutes just passed approximately "right in time" .... from 14 minutes the following started .... - 14 minutes (10:09) - 13 minutes (10:00) - 12 minutes (15:20) - 12 minutes (08:58) - 11 minutes (07:58) - 10 minutes (07:01) - 09 minutes (06:01) - 08 minutes (05:02) - 07 minutes (04:02) - 06 minutes (03:03) - 05 minutes (02:03) - 04 minutes (01 : 03) - 03 minutes (00:03) .. the timer (24 minutes) has already expired I start an additional stopwatch ... it gives me until the end of the program + 3 minutes 18 seconds

In total, at the express wash, the soap machine is 8: 23 + 24: 00 + 3: 18 = 35 minutes 41 seconds ..
At the same time, the drying time was not displayed on the display (although it should) .. but it started 10 minutes before the end of the program according to the PMM timer .. the "wash" indicator was on all the time ..
What is it? Brain glitch? The machines were bought on 06.03 .. the delivery was on 08.03 .. So 2 weeks have already passed. Does it make sense to return the car or what to do with it?

And further

Well, the fact that the machine has a glitch - I was convinced of this again yesterday ...

I started using the machine with the following indicators .. hardness 4 (out of 5), and set the rinse aid from 1 to 6 by increasing ... while the 20-minute program works great ... then I changed the hardness to 5 and set the rinse aid from 1 to 6 ... it was then that I noticed this "jamb" .... in short ... with a hardness of 4 (which I rearranged from 5 back to 4 yesterday) this program works fine again ... .if I set the water hardness to 5, the program starts to mow ... well, something like this ... ... now I'm calmly waiting for the master ... ... and my dishes in the PMM ...

BUT then the machine, when counting the time from 20 to 10 minutes, works "correctly", and then jumps from 10 minutes to 24 minutes and washes everything anew... By the way, the time is indicated on the door of the car - 20 minutes .. Another nuan .. it was found when the salt indicator value was "5" ... when I set the indicator to 4, the program worked correctly for the first time, and again again this "glitch" with a time jump from 10 minutes to 24 ...

Well, personally, I do not consider failure to provide information about the CYCLES of work as a violation, this is my opinion. washing machines, too, nowhere describe how much washing, how much drying, how much spin The name of the program is indicated and that's it. This is a technically complex product, it was exploited, that is, to return it without an expert opinion on a significant defect, alas, in any way .. Therefore, it is necessary to establish by expert means whether a deviation from the declared duration of a particular cycle is a significant defect. I personally doubt it ..

[FOR EVERYONE]

See what the point is ... As they told me from the service: with the maximum salt value set FOR EVERYONE programs a regeneration process (i.e. water softening) takes place ... and FOR EVERYONE PROGRAMS should be adding time ... However, I have this happening ONLY ON ONE program... And the last words of the master (literally) were ... turn off the "regeneration" ..... Sash-sazalexter, what kind of "cancer" can you turn off regeneration?
PySY ... but about the provision of information to the buyer - I do not agree .. I will give an example .. I buy a car ... for example a crossover (their price is usually from 1 million rubles and more) ... The declared characteristics are written .. consumption fuel - 10 l / 100 km (maximum in the city), but in fact you get 17.5 l / 100 km ... to the question "why is this?" .. the manufacturer answers you ... and certain processes take place in the car that YOU-CONSUMER should not be touched, the car is eating at you .. and how much gasoline does it consume - decide the "car" ... .. IMHO, of course, but I think this is nonsense ... Now stores even oblige the calorie content of vegetables / indicate fruits .. no matter how .. even on the price tag, at least from the box you will cut out the data (which Auchan does) ...

[YOU ARE WELCOME]

Girls, with a century ..... I once again ask you! Who tried to test the machine at the maximum salt value, YOU ARE WELCOME, try to run the machine again on a short program, only with r = 4 (if 5 is the maximum value), that is, I ask you to set the salt value to "one" less than the maximum ... It's just that "I'm thinking about my thoughts." ...

how such a "cancer" can you turn off regeneration?

It cannot be disabled, even if it could be done, it cannot be disabled! The ion exchanger will "die" and this is a repair and it will cost 100-200 dollars, or buying a new PMM

[YOU ARE WELCOME]

Girls, with a century ..... I once again ask you! Who tried to test the machine at the maximum salt value, YOU ARE WELCOME, try to run the machine again on a short program, only with r = 4 (if 5 is the maximum value), that is, I ask you to set the salt value to "one" less than the maximum ... It's just that "I'm thinking about my thoughts." ...

Anya, who had driven it to r = 4 yesterday, also thought that "excessive regeneration" could be the result of too high salt settings. The program lasted 20 minutes, as it should be. Do you still have glitches on your 4-ke? Maybe you should stop at these settings?

[r1]

Sorry, at the moment the only "powerful" extension cord is busy with the air conditioner, as the heat subsides, I'll wash the dishes. Yesterday salt on r1 stood, the 30-minute program worked out so quickly that I didn't even have time to look back! And the temperature at the end of the cycle was quite high - when opening, thick steam poured down!

PS I only know how to set the salt and how to turn off the rinse aid flow in the PMM, when pressing other buttons, simultaneously with turning on the machine, it popped up Er2 and winked at Er9... Therefore, FIG knows where to turn off the "regeneration"

Therefore, FIG knows where to turn off the "regeneration"

Nowhere This is for PMM "like death"

[FOR EVERYONE]

See what the point is ... As they told me from the service: with the maximum salt value set FOR EVERYONE programs a regeneration process (i.e. water softening) takes place ... and FOR EVERYONE PROGRAMS should be adding time ... However, I have this happening ONLY ON ONE program... And the last words of the master (literally) were ... turn off the "regeneration" ..... Sash-sazalexter, what kind of "cancer" can you turn off regeneration?
PySY ... but about the provision of information to the buyer - I do not agree .. I will give an example .. I buy a car ... for example a crossover (their price is usually from 1 million rubles and more) ... The declared characteristics are written .. consumption fuel - 10 l / 100 km (maximum in the city), but in fact you get 17.5 l / 100 km ... to the question "why is this?" .. the manufacturer answers you ... and certain processes take place in the car that YOU-CONSUMER should not be touched, the car is eating at you .. and how much gasoline does it consume - decide the "car" ... .. IMHO, of course, but I think this is nonsense ... Now stores even oblige the calorie content of vegetables / indicate fruits .. no matter how .. even on the price tag, at least from the box you will cut out the data (which Auchan does) ...

* Anyuta *, a very wonderful analogy with a crossover. In theory, any car buyer could sue the manufacturer for cheating. But the fact is that the manufacturer can always prove that his car really consumes exactly as much as it is written in the specifications. With a little caveat - in certain conditions... If you fill the car with gasoline obtained in laboratory conditions at 2000 euros / liter, times. Put on him super soft tires without a slick tread, two. Tape up all the cracks, the radiator grille and door handles with tape to reduce aerodynamic drag, three. And, finally, let the whole thing run on perfectly smooth, literally polished concrete. Yes, even in the passport you need to write that the consumption of a particular car instance depends on the driving style. All! You can sleep peacefully, no trial is terrible.
So, now specifically on the topic. If you tighten the water supply valve to the PMM to a minimum, you can stretch the increase in program time to 100-120%, but the machine will consume exactly the same amount of water and electricity! No "many times more"! Whether it's the shortest or the longest program, ridiculously small amounts of both are consumed. It is incorrect to determine consumption only by operating time. This is how it is tovarischi, who, in order to save money, bake only "fast" in KhP, since they multiply the power of the bread machine by the duration of the program and get a crazy figure.
Personally, I have more doubts about the test strip "for Germany" and the result shown by it.The fact is that IMHO there are relatively few inhabited places with such hard water that you need to set this parameter to the maximum. There the soap does not wash, the shampoo does not foam, and in the teapot every day there is a finger-thick scale. And in the dishwasher, a pack of salt goes away in a week. Naturally, this is a crazy load on the ion exchanger and the machine needs additional time to regenerate it. This is explicitly written in the instructions.
I typed in the search for "water hardness in Voronezh" and this is what I got: "The lowest values ​​of the stiffness index were noted in the northern sector of the region - Voronezh (4.8) - and Podvoronezhie: Ramonsky (4.8), Nizhnedevitsky (5.3), Semiluksky (5.7), Novousmansky (5.8 mg -eq / dm3) areas"With such rigidity, you need to set the maximum to" C ".
* Anyuta *, contact the water utility or do a water analysis in the laboratory, set up the machine correctly and everything will be fine!

Anya, who had driven it to r = 4 yesterday, also thought that "excessive regeneration" could be the result of too high salt settings. The program lasted 20 minutes, as it should be. Do you still have glitches on your 4-ke? Maybe you should stop at these settings?

On 4-ke, EVERYTHING is also saved ... .. the master says that this is also the maximum salt value ..

[* Anyuta *]

I typed in the search for "water hardness in Voronezh" and this is what I got: "The lowest values ​​of the stiffness index were noted in the northern sector of the region - Voronezh (4.8) - and Podvoronezhie: Ramonsky (4.8), Nizhnedevitsky (5.3), Semiluksky (5.7), Novousmansky (5.8 mg -eq / dm3) areas"With such rigidity, you need to set the maximum to" C ".
* Anyuta *, contact the water utility or do a water analysis in the laboratory, set up the machine correctly and everything will be fine!

This was done even BEFORE installing the PMM, in my area the value is 4.6 mmol / m3 .. which according to the German system = 25.799 of their dH ...
Judge for yourself...

Wasp, now your tests on 4 are VERY IMPORTANT to me ...

Nowhere This is for PMM "like death"

There is a recording of a telephone conversation with the master with the following words (about turning off the regeneration) ...

This was done even BEFORE installing the PMM, in my area the value is 4.6 mmol / m3 .. which according to the German system = 25.799 of their dH ...
Judge for yourself...

I did not calculate correctly in German it will be 12.89 of their dH, my hardness is 7 and in German it is 19.6 dH.

I did not calculate correctly in German it will be 12.89 dH, my hardness is 7 and in German it is 19.6 dH.

make up the proportion .. and calculate ... By the way, the cubes on the test just correspond to these values ​​...

[One]

One German dH = 0.1783 mmol / L
X German dH = 4.6 mmol / l

X = 4,6*1/0,1783
X = 25,799214....

An, as you like, but you think you are not right. mg and moths are different things, and what you think should be reduced by 2 times,

According to the new GOST, hardness is expressed in degrees of hardness (° F). 1 ° W corresponds to the concentration of an alkaline earth element, numerically equal to 1/2 of its mole per liter (1 ° W = 1 mg-eq / l).

and get the figure that I wrote to you.

[mmol / l]

An, as you like, but you think you are not right. mg and moths are different things, and what you think, reduce it by 2 times, and you get the figure that I wrote to you.

and what do I think is wrong? I was given a value in the water utility in mmol / l.... if given a value in degrees of hardness, then I would count as you say. And the service technician confirmed the same numbers that I was told.

At the water utility they said - nu-nu .. They say the current numbers, and all the data from the Internet - speak with your numbers about mg, not mmols. And if IN MMOLs, then generally divide by 4
And your service worker generally dEbil unambiguously, having uttered the current about turning off the resin regeneration.

You are confused yourself, you confuse everyone and you still get money for nothing. But the owner is a master. And you don't have to yell in bold, pliz.