Robin bobin
Quote: Amber

the inner surface of the bottom turned into whitish specks, a gasoline green-blue tide appeared, and most importantly, specks of rust appeared. Apparently, from there from the lower layer both the smell of iron and the chemical comes through if you hold the food.

Definitely, such a bowl is no good, you have to order another one.

and my whole coating is whitish. well, except for the upper part, which does not come into contact with food. In general, it would be necessary to somehow suppress the fact that Daewoo releases such an outrage. I'll try to call them on Mon.
Amber
Quote: Robin Bobin

and my whole coating is whitish. well, except for the top part, which doesn't come into contact with food. In general, it would be necessary to somehow suppress the fact that Daewoo releases such an outrage. I'll try to call them on Mon.
The Moscow address of the importer is written on the box, can you find their contacts? Probably, they are fully responsible for the imported goods. Interestingly, neither on the device, nor on the box, nor in the booklet with a guarantee - it is not written exactly where and who produced the goods. Only Daewoo International and Made in China. There are no service centers either.
Robin Bobin, who are you going to call?
Amber
The importer is indicated on the box.
I found it, they are obliged to know who the manufacturer is and generally be responsible for their goods on the territory of the Russian Federation. Most likely there is no service center. It seems to me that they released in China a series of pressure cookers under the freshly invented brand Daewoo International, some kind of fake company without a website and service centers Video equipment, especially for our market. Daewoo Electronix is ​​a large company, they most likely import their goods themselves.

Company name: Videotekhnika LLC

Region of location of the company: Moscow

Contact Information
Organization phone: 7570892
Company address (legal): 115191, Moscow, 2nd Roshinskaya street, building 4, office 503

Information about the company on the Internet
company website: no data

Type of activity (main): Wholesale of electrical household appliances, radio and television equipment (OKVED: 51.43)
Robin bobin
yeah why would it be a Daewoo importer? there seems to be no certificate. Crystal, I’m thinking, maybe the ozone has already figured out that this is a fake, and they don’t take them anymore. Well they don't publish negative reviews, I also wrote, like Larssevsk, but they probably read them themselves. Maybe it's true, to return it, I think ....... But it's a shame - such a setup.
I already wrote in the International, by the way. Let's see if there is anything.
Amber
Both models are now available at Ozone.

On the box and case there is a PCT (Rosstandart) badge with the letters AI18. The search is issued by the Product Certification Body LLC "Ol Sert". I think they can be purchased certificates?

In case of compulsory certification, in addition, two letters and two numbers of the certification body that issued the certificate are indicated.

Robin Bobin, any reviews are published on Yandex Market
Amber
Review of the multicooker-pressure cooker Daewoo DEC-3568
Daewoo 3570 multicooker-pressure cooker

Control Panel

This is what the control panel looks like (you can click to enlarge). This is a unique photo, because when choosing, I did not find a single large and clear photo on the network where this panel and inscriptions would be visible.

Daewoo 3570 multicooker-pressure cooker

The selected and current options are highlighted by the light bulbs in the depth. Therefore, if you put the pressure cooker on the table, then while standing you will not see anything that is highlighted on the panel. And if you step aside a little, you can even see the sweethearts in profile.

Daewoo 3570 multicooker-pressure cooker

Only at eye level, opposite the panel itself, will it be seen what is going through.

Daewoo 3570 multicooker-pressure cooker

The panel is beautiful =) Touch-sensitive, but pressed with effort. Despite the declared non-slip feet, there is no rubber lining there, it only slides like this, even when filled.To press the button, you must hold the pressure cooker with your hand so that it does not leave.

Modes

You can set the delayed start timer (from 1 to 24 hours in 1 hour increments).

Then, using the Function button, the mode is selected - Rice, Porridge ... Click clockwise, starting with Rice from the second column from top to bottom, and then moves to the first column and goes from bottom to top - I just can't get used to it - it would be more intuitive from left to right, each row in turn as we write.

For each mode, a cooking time is selected from 3 factory possible ones - standard (as printed on the panel) + 2 options Strong (less minutes) -Mild (more minutes) using the Start button. You cannot adjust the time by the minute. Moreover, judging by the names Strong / Weak, when choosing a shorter time, the power increases, and vice versa. Thus, the names of all modes are conditional - the main thing is to decide what power you need (standard, strong, weak) and choose the right time from all possible factory modes.

I don't know why the button was called Start - in my opinion it only switches High / Low / Standard. And the pressure cooker starts up automatically as soon as you start to select the mode using the Function - Heating immediately starts. When choosing modes and time-power, if you do not press anything for a few seconds, then it will no longer be possible to change, only Cancel.

Steam release

For the first 2 times, I immediately blew steam. It is better to stand farther away, a jet of steam and water drops with a rather powerful pressure.

3 times disconnected from the network, did not cover with a wet towel. I waited 15 minutes. The large valve was in a closed state, as during cooking, it did not rise up by itself, it was audible that steam was being released from it slowly, as during work. The float valve did not go down. I got tired of waiting, and I forcibly blew off steam with a knife on my outstretched hand - turned the valve open - it turned out that there was almost no pressure left inside, just a little bit came out.

Test runs

To drive the device away, not for ingestion.

1.
2 tbsp of rice + 10 tbsp of water - Rice mode 8 minutes.
I waited 20 minutes, during which time the float valve rose, but the countdown did not start. I thought it was a malfunction and turned it off. The rice looked half cooked, and there was a lot of water, like soup.

2.
after 40 minutes, the same still warm mixture was launched on Fish Strongly for 3 minutes.
In 5 minutes the float valve rose, after another 2 minutes the countdown began + 3 minutes cooking. Total 10 minutes. The rice absorbed almost all the water, and it looked crumbly on top. Stirred - it became like porridge.

3.
1 tbsp rice + 1 tbsp millet + 10 tbsp water - Rice mode 8 minutes.
12 minutes - the valve rose, after another 7 minutes the countdown started + 8 minutes of cooking. Total 27 minutes.
+ 5 minutes I watched Heating (switched on automatically) + 15 minutes I waited until the steam was blown off by itself, but did not get it. When I finally opened the lid, the mixture was still boiling. It turns out that I have been preparing all this time. The millet has boiled over strongly. The result is a liquid soup, millet absorbs water worse than rice.

Daewoo 3570 multicooker-pressure cooker
Daewoo 3570 multicooker-pressure cooker

Then it all stood for another 1 hour in an open bowl in a multicooker and another 1 hour outside a multicooker - and absorbed water, it became like porridge. And the bottom of the bowl was still hot. In general, the heating element is still hot for a long time.

Bowl

Claimed as ceramic, but it's not pure ceramic, and don't get it, smooth black like enamel with white splashes. The native cup does not inspire confidence. You can look for a replacement. Kind of like NEC has 4+ for her.

The new bowl does not smell of anything, but after 3 starts (cereal + water), the bottom deteriorated, nothing burned, only the inner surface of the bottom turned into whitish specks, a gasoline green-blue tide appeared, and most importantly, specks of rust appeared. The photo shows only whitish, and micro-scratches are visible in the photo, although I only used a sponge, AOS, a terry towel and a spoon from the kit. The coverage is very weak. It is noteworthy that it deteriorated only on the inner part of the bottom, that is, where the strongest heating + contact with food is.

Daewoo 3570 multicooker-pressure cooker

The smell of plastic

If you can still try to replace the bowl, then nothing can be done about it.Unfortunately, the rim on the top and bottom of the case and on the lid is made of smelly plastic, and it does not fade, this is the material. In a cold state, a bitter smell is perfectly felt if sniffed. It also smells inside the case - although everything is metallic inside, but apparently under the heating element there is the same plastic. If you close the lid, the smell of plastic is concentrated there (by the way, the silicone ring smelled strongly of it initially, then it absorbed the smell of rice ...). In view of this, and the bowl, you do not want to try the start delayed for the morning with the products inside. However, when I cooked, the smell and taste of plastic was not transferred to food - after all, all the plastic outside the bowl and lid is obtained, if I'm not mistaken, it is isolated from the food.

When heated, it smells all over the kitchen of unpleasant bitter plastic, even if you open the window. It's good at least that the smell is not too strong, as it happens.

In general, this is the most unpleasant moment for me so far.

And so I also tried to make today 2 chicken legs without skin, a large carrot and a small roach of cauliflower, cut into 4 large pieces - on the Chicken for 12 minutes ... I wanted not to cook vegetables, but to have vegetables steamed on top of the chicken. I poured 3 multi-glasses of water - it turned out to be too much. The carrots and chicken turned out great, but the cauliflower boiled down into the trash and, when trying to get it, fell apart into porridge =) In general, it was heated for 15 minutes (at this time, cooking is already in full swing, in fact, it is already being cooked - considering this, you can cook choose much shorter) and cooking for 12 minutes, then forcibly let the steam down so as not to keep it inside the bowl even longer.

Larssevsk
Quote: Crystal

and here is the Daewoo International website
and there is also nothing.

do you have a certificate?

Crystal, have you given up on this multicooker yet? Can. before it's too late, should you call Ozone and refuse? It is, of course, not the worst, but not ideal either, and now such a choice and not conscientious manufacturers should be punished
Kristi
Hello! On Saturday, the children presented this pressure cooker. The instruction is about nothing. There are no recipes. Well, we immediately decided to try it out. We put out the duck - the skin is welded to the bottom. Cleaned up. In the morning we decided to cook oatmeal porridge - it burned thoroughly - although it did not cook for long. In general, in order not to offend the children, she smiled, but when they left .... Now I don't know what to do with her. The smell of plastic was not strong. But how and what to cook in it - I don't know. In general, they got into a mess.

Larssevsk
Kristi, don't panic !!! Normal slow cooker, except for the bowl-saucepan. It is very easy and convenient to cook in it. I also panicked in the early days, now I can't imagine how I used to do without her. She greatly facilitated my life. The second time, of course, I won't buy one. I will buy thousands for 10 - 12. But for the first multicooker it will do. Try it on it, you will understand what you need, what is not needed, what is important, what is not important, and buy the next multicooker based on this experience.
Robin bobin
Yes, Kristi, it's not that bad. Something you have very much burns. I cooked chicken with vegetables in it without water at all, and then nothing burned. And milk porridge also does not burn. There you just need to get used to it, to catch the balance of time and quantity / quality of products. When you are going to cook, write what plan, what recipe.
Yes, and one more thing, I still grease the bottom with butter almost every time.
But the bowl is just a nightmare. Change it as quickly as possible and everything will be ok. She seems to be mischievous. Even if it doesn’t stick to it, it’s not really worth cooking in it.
Amber
Girls, has anyone already ordered a replacement bowl?

I've been thinking about certification. After all, they check the device for safety in terms of electrical engineering and the bowl is checked NEW for the release of harmful substances, with a damaged coating, no one will check and will not, it must be replaced. They were successful and passed, probably. But as far as the technique and the coating of the bowl are, nobody cares, no matter that the bowl becomes unusable after the first starts.

I like that it really works quietly and peacefully - no steam comes out of the valve during cooking.Even at the end, it descends in the same mode, a barely audible hiss, nothing is visible - but for too long, it's easier for me to open the steam forcibly with a knife and in half a minute the lid is open.

Larssevsk, please tell us how to cook pilaf so that it doesn't turn out to be porridge?
Kristi
Thanks everyone for the answer. Probably overexposed in time. Right now I have salmon steaks lying on the gas. cook on the stove, but can you tell me something. And I would like to cook soup with mushrooms in it. I read here and concluded that it is necessary to set less time, although there are no TIMER buttons, it means stopping cooking (heating-canceling).
I have a DEC 3568.
Amber
Kristi, I also have 3568. I wrote a review with a photo above, I wrote there how to set the time - for each mode, using the Start button, you can select in addition to the standard time 2 more options - Strong or Weak. For example, Fish is standard 5 minutes, and Strong is 3 minutes. And it seems to me that it doesn't matter which mode to choose (Rice or Fish or Porridge - these are just names, but the essence of cooking is the same for them) - the main thing is to choose the desired time from all possible ones.
Amber
About spare parts. I looked at the pictures of Land Life and Arc - and came to the conclusion that all our pressure cookers are assembled from identical components. Both the lid inside and the housing inside with a 1-in-1 heating element look.

And they say at LL 5L it can hold 4 with something actually to the brim - Daewoo also does not fit full 5L, I checked. And the dimensions of the Daewoo bowl are 24 outer diameter, 22 inner, height 13.5. The 5L LL bowl has the same parameters, they say. I suspect the older Arc models are the same. I mean, now online stores sell silicone rings and bowls for LL and Arc - and through a joint venture in every city you can get a bowl for 600 rubles. I came across reviews that Arc bowls give a chemical aftertaste and they also burn in LL too - but they have different coatings - you can look for reviews.

A steaming grate for LL is also sold (put on the bottom) - in joint purchases, the price is around 80 rubles.
Larssevsk
Quote: Amber

Girls, has anyone already ordered a replacement bowl?

I've been thinking about certification. After all, they check the device for safety in terms of electrical engineering and the bowl is checked NEW for the release of harmful substances, with a damaged coating, no one will check and will not, it must be replaced. They were successful and passed, probably. But as far as the technique and the coating of the bowl are, nobody cares, no matter that the bowl becomes unusable after the first starts.

I like that it really works quietly and peacefully - no steam comes out of the valve during cooking. Even at the end, it descends in the same mode, a barely audible hiss, nothing is visible - but for too long, it's easier for me to open the steam forcibly with a knife and in half a minute the lid is open.

Larssevsk, please tell us how to cook pilaf so that it doesn't turn out to be porridge?

Amber, I poured water 1 cm higher than the rice, but still it turned out a little "mushy". Now I began to write everything down in a notebook directly in the measuring cups. I realized that there was nothing to hope for. As soon as I calculate the ideal proportions in the cups, I will immediately inform you
Larssevsk
Quote: Kristi

Thanks everyone for the answer. Probably overexposed in time. Right now I have salmon steaks lying on the gas. cook on the stove, but can you tell me something. And I would like to cook soup with mushrooms in it. I read here and concluded that it is necessary to set less time, although there are no TIMER buttons, it means stopping cooking (heating-canceling).
I have a DEC 3568.

Kristi, probably still, steaks without a grill will not turn out very well. Read my previous posts, I wrote there just about pink salmon steaks. But boiling mushroom soup is easy. Pour everything into a saucepan (mushrooms, barley, potatoes, onions, carrots, salt, peas), cover with water and put on "SOUP" (30 minutes). The pot will cook everything by himself :))))
Larssevsk
Girls, but I still wrote my "fi" in OZON about the saucepan today. I asked them to be more sensitive about the choice of suppliers and replace my multicooker with another model. I understand that they do not care before my letter and, of course, they will not replace anything for me.But I still sit with a sense of accomplishment
Robin bobin
Amber, thank you for such a detailed and interesting photo report. It seemed to me, too. that all this time she cooks even what is called the warming up. and I'm afraid to lower it by force. Once he accidentally touched him, so he spat.
By the way, I am here, too, with a report, but, unfortunately, not about the prepared dishes, but about my truth-seeking adventures. All three telephones of the Daewoo representative office in Russia, which I found, turned out to be faxes and answering machines sent in a circle. They have not responded to the message yet either. In "video equipment" I was advised to call on another phone, which was answered in good Russian by some Asian. He took my contacts and promised that they would call me. As a journalist, I know it usually doesn't end with anything).
I learned about the procedure for returning goods to Ozone - just in case. Didn't really like it either.
There was still the Consumer Union. They said - wow, yes, of course, we must stop the flow of such low-quality imports, and we, as victims, even have the right to compensation. Only here it is a pity for the time. So I'm thinking now - to start with the Consumers Union or just quietly order a cup.
infa
I also think that Daewoo is not even aware that these pressure cookers are produced.

in alibab it is called HANTAI or LECOM or OEM
Children cannot be poisoned with this! It would be good to use the Consumer Union.
Larssevsk
What a shame, the reason for choosing this particular model was:
1. Low price
2. Ceramic bowl
3. Trust in the brand

Of the three components, NONE remained, since the low price also disappeared due to the fact that you have to buy a new bowl (1000 rubles) + shipping (300 rubles) Total 4990 + 1300 = 6290. Something more decent could have been buy for this money
Amber
I am thinking of changing the bowl, perhaps to Land Life, if the parameters fit - in the joint venture you can order the total price around 600 rubles. Either Knack.

Daewoo costs 3790-3990.

OEM is just a common practice, this is not a brand name =) Daewoo could order products for themselves in principle.

The abbreviation OEM (English original equipment manufacturing) means a system of relationships between companies in which a third-party manufacturer manufactures a product to order and to the specification of the brand owner. In other words, this is a service that allows any company to produce a product under its own brand, without any capital investment in production. OEM manufacturers of well-known brands, as a rule, remain known only to a narrow circle of people, but you can see the goods produced by them under the trademarks of Apple, Panasonic, Compaq and many others.

If you have your own trademark or are planning to create one, OEM production in China will be the best solution for you. Production of goods under your brand will allow you to protect your investment in advertising and create an image of your company as a manufacturer of your own goods. We can safely call investments in OEM production - investments in the future of your company.
Larssevsk
Oh, yes, of course, 3990. Together with the new bowl 5290 turns out But still, not a little. In the joint venture, you need to recruit people who want this cup. I think there are very - very few of them in our city. That leaves NEC. and no one has heard, there are good bowls? Any reviews?
Amber
So, at retail, Land Life bowls are still cheaper than those of NEC. About the new bronze they write that they are terribly sticky to it, and the old Teflon is praised. I found a teflon one for 5 liters in an Internet store - 650 rubles + delivery by mail of 300 rubles, probably.

For NEC 1050 + 300 = 1350.

I have the opportunity to order through the joint venture, and for sure there are organizers of the joint venture who can send to any city by mail, if you do not have a joint venture in the city, only the price is about the same and it will turn out as ordering in a store with delivery - around 850 -950 RUB It will be 400-500 rubles cheaper than NEC. And if you still have such joint ventures in your city, then in general it will be 700-800 rubles cheaper than NEC. I looked, in our joint venture, the total price of 550 rubles is declared per cup.

The main thing would be to know for sure whether such a bowl is suitable for us ... We need to find exact measurements.

It seems to me, in general, all these pressure cookers, multicooker are made according to the OEM principle.
Robin bobin
Something I for myself do not see the point in another dubious bowl - Landlife. I definitely want a NEC. Something I don't trust China anymore. Larssevsk, here on another forum I read reviews, the truth about Eco's aluminum bowl. Everyone seems to be delighted. It is not harmful, it is not killed by anything, in it, puree soups are made with a blender and jams are cooked. I seriously thought about this eco for myself, but it is not recommended for cereals. And two bowls for this magical Daewoo. As for the classics, I haven't read the reviews yet, there was no time to look for them. there are users, you can ask.
Robin bobin
Quote: Amber

I am thinking of changing the bowl, perhaps to Land Life, if the parameters fit - in the joint venture you can order the total price around 600 rubles. Either Knack.

Amber, why do you think LL should be right for us? Here are the cups that should work for us:
Daewoo DEC-3570
Redmond RMC-4504,
Telefunkin TFL CO601,
UNIT USP-1010D
Amber
I also tend to NEC more, but I don't trust aluminum either ...

Further, it is considered unacceptable for aluminum to react with acids and alkalis. Therefore, it is believed that such food as cabbage soup, jelly, meat in sweet and sour sauce, milk is undesirable to cook in this dish.

Dark spots remain on aluminum cookware when food containing sulfur and calcium is cooked in it - these are eggs, dairy products, pickles. It is believed that you cannot store ready-made food in aluminum dishes, you cannot prepare diet meals and baby food. In it you can stew and sauté vegetables, fry potatoes, but it is recommended to stir the food only with a wooden or plastic spoon.

On the other hand, it is not known how long the pressure cooker itself will last ... One year warranty. Suddenly it breaks, then it will be a pity if the purchased cup remains for 1350, instead of 550. About Teflon they write that this is a myth that it is harmful, there, this acid, as a result, either does not remain in the finished coating at all, or its amount is very minimal and will not cause any harm to the person. To know who to believe.

Daewoo's native bowl is generally kind of strange. After rice, I cooked in it 2 more times - chicken with vegetables - and so in room lighting, the bottom generally looks like new. If you go to the window, instead of those whitish spots, you will see scuffs on the surface, the green-blue tide has disappeared and the rust spots are gone too, 1 spot still caught sight of a rusty little one ... Was it all washed off with a sponge with Aos or it was gone into food ...

I also smelled a cold pressure cooker on the topic of plastic - after all, the plastic of the lid and the body does not smell - a strong smell comes from under the heating element and fills the entire container. I wonder if it will burn someday ...

Robin Bobin, and when you made baked milk and left it until the morning, the chemical smell was not transferred to it?
Amber
Quote: Robin Bobin

Amber, why do you think LL should be right for us? Here are the cups that should fit us:
Daewoo DEC-3570
Redmond RMC-4504,
Telefunkin TFL CO601,
UNIT USP-1010D

I measured my bowl and found the LL measurements - they coincide, and most likely it was in the old LL model with Teflon.
I measured mine again at 5 liters - with ribs, diameter 24 cm, without - 22 cm, height 13.5 cm.

It would be nice to try on ...

And NEC is generally unprofitable to add LL to this list. Otherwise, everyone for these 4+ pressure cookers will start ordering bowls from LL, and not from NEC, since it is much cheaper. Yes, and it is stupid for them to offer their cups for 1350 for LL, when LL's relatives can buy for 600 easily. NEC, probably, mainly focuses on those models which do not have spare bowls for sale.
Robin bobin
Quote: Amber


It seems to me, in general, all these pressure cookers, multicooker are made according to the OEM principle.

Amber, yes. Most likely it is. I read something similar about Brand 6050. The Chinese produce equipment for a large market under the customer's brand, and the same device is launched on the domestic market under all sorts of their clicks. But only Brand takes responsibility for all these Chinese-made jambs. They also order production in China and are also not insured against their nightmarish quality, but communicate with the consumer and quickly respond to problems. And Daewoo
Robin bobin
Quote: Amber

Robin Bobin, and when you made baked milk and left it until the morning, the chemical smell was not transferred to it?

passed on. But then quite a bit, so everyone decided what it seemed to me. The milk did not stand in the bowl for very long - I put it at the beginning of the third night, and already at 8 am we tried it. I thought - okay, the first cooking, then it will be fine.So we drank it too, this healthy milk.
Larssevsk
Quote: Robin Bobin

Larssevsk, I found a topic for testing the coverage of NEC There Sibovar, do not be surprised, they explained to me that at first these Neks were called like that))))

Robin, I already wrote you a letter of gratitude, but it, the infection, did not go away and disappeared somewhere. Thank you very much. What would I do without your knowledge and experience? This is, in general, the first forum on which I sit, so I am a complete teapot in these matters. Yes, and I have not made Internet purchases anywhere other than Ozone. I will order a classic bowl and give the multicooker to my parents, all the more so - for February 23 and March 8, we were not honored to buy it for them. And now I remind myself of the owner of "LADA Kalina", who dreams of a solid Japanese city SUV
Amber
Made a model of pilaf (rice with meat) in 3568. I was impressed, only 20 minutes.

Chopped the goose fillet and onion. She poured butter and put it without a lid on Baking Strongly for 25 minutes (we still have Standard 35 minutes and Low 45 minutes for baking). I thought it would take a long time to heat up, but it warmed up very quickly and steam went - the meat began to stew in its juice. After a couple of minutes, I clicked Cancel. I realized that it would not be fried like that, it would be stewed anyway - so this step makes no sense.

Then she put the carrots on top and poured rice (not soaked) over the eye, poured it all with hot water from the kettle - so that the water covered all the rice by about 1-2 mm from the top.

I closed the lid and put Rice on for 8 minutes.

12 minutes pressure was gained, 8 minutes cooking. Forcibly let off steam and put it in a safe container.

Here's what happened - the rice was cooked, but not boiled, elastic. Moreover, the rice, it seems, was round grain, but it turned out to be elongated. Of the spices, only salt and black pepper, I forgot to put garlic at all, I was in a hurry.

Daewoo 3570 multicooker-pressure cooker

Nothing burnt, only a layer of rice broth adhered to the bottom - but it got wet and washed off easily. But the saucepan deteriorated again - and already noticeably stronger - even the camera caught these blue stains. To them was added the worn bottom surface - already appeared in the form of white dust particles of abrasion, so the coating comes off.

Daewoo 3570 multicooker-pressure cooker

This concludes my experiments with my own bowl. I will wait for a new cup. And in this one, you can probably make baked goods through paper or try to make yogurt in the Heating mode - it is still put in a bowl in glass jars, at the same time you don't have to worry that the coating will be scratched.
Robin bobin
Quote: Amber


Chopped the goose fillet and onion. She poured butter and put it without a lid on Baking Strongly for 25 minutes (we still have Standard 35 minutes and Low 45 minutes for baking).

Wow, Amber, does your pressure cooker work without a lid? Cool for you, 3570 starts beeping and turns off. And you have an interesting baking mode. Would you like to try some baked goods out of interest?
The pilaf "model" is very nice.

I no longer cook in this bowl. I tried today to order the classics in Nack, but I couldn't find the order form from them, I just wrote a message.
Robin bobin
Quote: Larssevsk

Robin, I already wrote you a letter of gratitude, but it, the infection, did not go away and disappeared somewhere. Thank you very much. What would I do without your knowledge and experience? This is, in general, the first forum on which I sit, so I am a complete teapot in these matters. Yes, and Internet purchases, except for Ozone, I have never done anywhere else. I will order a classic bowl and give the multicooker to my parents, all the more so - for February 23 and March 8, we were not honored to buy it for them. And to myself, I now remind the owner of LADA Kalina, who dreams of a solid Japanese city SUV

Larssevsk, and thank you We were the first in this thread)))
I am also looking after a "SUV" for myself. I will most likely wait for Brand 6051. It will appear in June, by autumn I will buy it if the reviews are good on the forum, and only then will I give my Daewoo to my dad. Just before autumn I will have time to collect money for it - now I earn 2 thousand rubles a month
Larssevsk
Quote: Robin Bobin

Larssevsk, and thank you We were the first in this thread)))
I, too, look after myself an "SUV" I will most likely wait for Brand 6051.It will appear in June, by the fall I will buy it if the reviews are good on the forum, and only then will I give my Daewoo to my dad. Just before autumn I will have time to collect money for it - now I earn 2 thousand rubles a month
Robin, this is all bullshit. There will be holidays, money and SUVs on our street. It's a pity that the topics on our forum were not reduced to positive exchanges of recipes and culinary discoveries, but to a discussion of the jambs of the bowl, but, I think, it is still in front. Strange, but my cup is not covered with any stains or stains. Black in her pristine beauty, although she pings, a bitch.
Larssevsk
But I liked the KITFORT KT-201 Multicooker in TELEMAX. But for now, I also let go of this question. I don't want to get into a fever and buy the wrong thing a second time.
Robin bobin
Quote: Larssevsk

But I liked the KITFORT KT-201 Multicooker in TELEMAX. But for now, I also let go of this question. I don't want to get into a fever and buy the wrong thing a second time.

Wow, Larssevsk, this interesting KITFORT. I really wanted to too. But only this is a slow cooker, not a pressure cooker, everything will be much longer in it compared to Daewoo. I also thought about just a slow cooker, but I have not yet matured. I like Maruchi fz-45f. But, too, everything is long, and she has a custom-sized bowl.
Larssevsk
Quote: Robin Bobin

Wow, Larssevsk, this interesting KITFORT. I really wanted to too. But only this is a slow cooker, not a pressure cooker, everything will be much longer in it compared to Daewoo. I also thought about just a slow cooker, but I have not yet matured. I like Maruchi fz-45f. But, too, everything is long, and she has a custom-sized bowl.

Robin, hello. The bowl is not a standard size, as it turned out, it is not safe. I would not risk it. And as for the fact that it's just a multicooker, I just thought - it has a power of 900 watts, and not 600 watts, like many. I think that taking into account the pressure build-up, and then waiting 5-10 minutes until the lid can be opened (in total + 20-30 minutes), then the speed will come out for that. Again, according to the reviews and descriptions, it bakes. Okay, I will still study the topic. There is a lot of time before autumn
Amber
I found bad reviews about NEC = (. They say a bowl for six months.

I received a Premium bowl with pimples on the bottom, although there were only five of them. They were from the very beginning, they did not interfere with cooking, then they began to be removed along with the coating film, although they worked only with silicone. Replaced with a new one without any problems. But now, six months later, the coating has thinned out and began to stick to the bottom. Alexander warned that the service life of the coating is about six months with intensive use. I rarely cook, there is another one to replace this bowl, but for some reason I only had enough for six months.

Do not buy sybovar bowls unless you want to throw your money away. I bought a spare bowl for my multicooker and six months later the bottom of the bowl was covered with small bubbles: shock:. I didn’t put the bowl on an open fire and didn’t use it in the oven, didn’t wash it with chemicals, didn’t subject it to a "thermal shock", used it only for cooking food in a multicooker, and even then not often - 1-2 times a week. The warranty period of use is only 6 months, which means that the manufacturers know that after 6-7 months. the bowl is out of order. Very expensive pleasure.
Robin bobin
Quote: Amber

I found bad reviews about NEC = (. They say a bowl for six months.

Yes, I really don't know. And what about the other bowls? Tell me honestly, how long do Teflon pans live happily in you? The NEK website says the shelf life is from six months to several years. They say the Daikin coating is good, but where can I get it?
If I were going to connect my life with Daewoo forever, I would buy two Nek bowls for her - a classic for cereals, baking and milk, and aluminum for everything, for merciless exploitation. But since I have already planned to change Daewoo, I don't even know.
Maybe let's all together return them to Ozone and buy ourselves something worthy?
Amber
Larssevsk, I think ... In general, how many bowls do others have? Maybe they are all for six months? But 1350 is a pity, to be honest.

Robin Bobin, I will return the pressure cooker to Ozone if it breaks under warranty.And so the device itself suits me so far, justifies its price. I don't need a multicooker, I just wanted a pressure cooker. Maybe for porridge there is no difference with a cartoon for 30-40 minutes, but I saw recipes for soups for multi - 1.5-2 hours the soup is cooked, that's too much. For baking and baking, I have a good oven, in it no longer than in a multicooker pressure cooker. So for now, Douai is great for cooking soups and cereals, stewing, steaming, pilaf - I was very impressed that it took only 20 minutes and the rice turned out to be unusual, very tasty ... Heats up quickly, works quietly - otherwise I read it, that for LL and Ark, then steam is knocking down and you need to manually catch the correct position of the valve during operation, then everything flashes, then squeaks, then steam flies out from under the lid, then something else ... And from Daewoo, you just need to pick up an adequate bowl.

I also looked after a new expensive Brand with ceramics (but what kind of ceramics is there ??? suddenly the same ...) - I saw that it would only be in the summer, and took Daewoo =))))

Wow, Amber, does your pressure cooker work without a lid? Cool for you, 3570 starts beeping and turns off. And you have an interesting baking mode. Would you like to try some baked goods out of interest?
I checked it in all modes - it does not squeak, continues Heating. In theory, after all, Baking and Heating should work without pressure - do they squeak on them and turn off? For baking, you can not close the valve (there is generally a sticker on the lid that the valve for solid food can not be closed, but this is baked goods, probably, it does not need pressure), and the lid can be opened accordingly and check readiness, since there is no pressure, why not.

The pilaf "model" is very nice.
Thank you, it's also delicious. I treated my parents, they thought that some elite variety of rice

Strange, but my cup is not covered with any stains or stains.
Maybe we have bowls from different parties?


I really don't know. And what about the other bowls? Tell me honestly, how long do Teflon pans live happily in you?

Tefal no more than a year. White ceramics (BIOL Ukraine, TVS Tima Ceramic Granit Italy-Russia) - after about six months, the fried starts to stick, the coating is rubbed, but does not fly off, and it has been serving for more than a year - it is excellent to extinguish. I like the white ceramic bowl at Polaris from the photo, but it won't fit us in size.
sazalexter
Quote: Robin Bobin

Yes, tell me honestly, how long do Teflon pans live happily in you?
On average, from 3 to 5 years, but these are pans where there is a strong local heating during frying. There are 2 pans of tefal on the farm, one for 5 years for sure, the second for more than 6 years Scratched, of course, but nothing sticks or burns
Amber
On average, from 3 to 5 years, but these are pans where there is a strong local heating during frying.
For my parents, an expensive weighty frying pan Tefal, with constant use, was enough for a maximum of a year, then the coating wears out a lot, right up to rust.
iiirrraaa
Off topic, but
I look through all the messages about Teflon wear, because my favorite pancake maker Orion "went" with white spots. It became scary to cook on it, but throw it out

So, I wanted to ask: do you throw out your cups after the appearance of white spots?
sazalexter
Quote: Amber

For my parents, an expensive weighty frying pan Tefal, with constant use, was enough for a maximum of a year, then the coating wears out a lot, right up to rust.
And what rusts with them? Aluminum pan bottom or stainless steel bottom?
Amber
And what rusts with them? Aluminum pan bottom or stainless steel bottom?
Rust on the bottom of the pan where the coating has come off. I don't know what kind of material there is, but stainless steel, by the way, can also rust =) I personally have a rusty stainless steel Gillette razor blade and the bottom of a cheap Chinese thin stainless steel saucepan.
Robin bobin
Quote: sazalexter

And what rusts with them? Aluminum pan bottom or stainless steel bottom?

sazalexter, but you shouldn't be sneering. In my opinion, now anything can rust - everything is done in China, no matter what Italy or Korea it is called. And what cunning inventive Chinese have mixed there
sazalexter
Robin bobin You shouldn't be so much exaggerating the role of China in the modern technological chain. Rospotrebnadzor is not asleep.
And shops are afraid to sell outright fakes.
Robin bobin
sazalexter, then explain our story with the poisoned bowl in Daewoo and with the PCT badge on the box? Did Rospotrebnadzor oversleep?
and in general, there are not so few complaints about initially bad Chinese pans
sazalexter
Robin bobin More often than not, sorry, I haven't seen anything criminal yet, the photo does not reflect the essence of the problem. Declared by the manufacturer, ceramics (sol-gel ceramics in practice) Weak, unstable decorative coating. https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=83783.240
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=186131.0
You need to solve the problem with the seller.
swd62
I bought a model 3570 on Ozone, I was looking for a forum on Daewoo for a long time, I was "happy" By the way, mine does not smell at all yet, but the bottom is dull. Cooked soups and cereals, edible, taste like in a pressure cooker. The pasta and semolina did not work out, and the cabbage with meat is very tasty. Share some good recipes pliz.

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