Electric frying pan

I went to see what I have written on the "keys" ...

Nothing is written on the keys themselves, there are only designations about which you need to look in the instructions.

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So we have different Miracles.
Here they have multiplied ...

Nothing is written on the keys themselves, there are only symbols

Well, mine says .. On the plug on the back .. 250 W and 10A. She's German ..

What are the keys on the Miracle? Mine has none. And the power is 650W.

What are the keys on the Miracle?

Clear. This is probably new. Mine is 89 years old.

This is probably new. Mine is 89 years old.

1987 production of the GDR ...

[Alese]

Alese, power 500w
of course it's good that the stove bakes evenly, but for example, two batches of pies, well, very long ... it turns out two hours - I'm not ready to hang around in the kitchen for so much ...
Yes, I might have resigned myself if everyone had the same. But the difference in baking is almost twice as much ...

ps inside, by the way, nothing rattles, but I have not opened it yet, maybe there is nothing there, neither a spiral nor a tena)))

inside, by the way, nothing rattles, but I have not yet opened it, maybe there is nothing there, neither a spiral nor a shadow)))

Then how does she bake ...?

What are the keys on the Miracle? Mine has none. And the power is 650W.

Here is a general view: (snapshot from the Internet). A fork with keys is visible.

And my pictures:

I realized. This is at the GDRovskys. They are improved)

My Miracle has two keys: 400 and 600 V

While melting, do not confuse the people, you have not a MIRACLE, but a WONDER-M. These are completely different electric pans in terms of functionality. The Miracle-M has a hermetically made lid that can be used as a frying pan, that is, just fry on it (written in the instructions). In general, only 3 main types were produced in the USSR: Miracle, Miracle-M and an electric brazier EZHU (already discussed on the forum), there was just an electric frying pan only for frying with a lower heating element. And from modern - only Miracle and Miracle, but they are the same

Added Thursday, 18 Aug 2016, 02:31 PM

Now on AVITO Miracles-M from the USSR, there are new ones:
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🔗 electric fry EZHU (ten in the sides) is a very rare thing, when discussed on the forum, many girls wanted it

While melting, do not confuse the people, you have not a MIRACLE, but a WONDER-M

Yes, you are right.
But I call it so for the sake of reduction, but I will be corrected.

[gawala]

gawala, yes, I'm already joking))) I just don't understand why there is such a difference))
although while I mastered the whole topic, I found that two other owners of a wonderful stove have the same story as mine.
So you can really play with the spiral if it is there and see what happens.

So can really play with the spiral if it is there

Well, something is definitely there ... It is possible that this was immediately incorporated into the design of the device .. that it heats up slowly, there is not enough opportunity .. But you can try to put something more powerful ...

[Mila56]

Mila56, Precisely TEN! On the one hand, it's good, but if it burns out, there is nothing to replace. I went to the special. store and recognized. The answer is disappointing: "Unfortunately, we do not have such suppliers." I won't tell you the manufacturer, the marking is like this:

Tillotama, 500W is a very small power, it seems to me that for such a power, the baking time is quite adequate.

The Germans also see KP read ...

Of course they read it. Demand creates supply. But their prices are already scary. In our Miracle store, a new stove cost 1300-1500 rubles at the beginning of the year, and on the city site of ads for a similar one they ask 2000-2500 rubles.Someone will buy in the first place without examining the prices.
But even if we multiply 40 by 72 rubles. at the rate it will be almost 2 times more expensive. And 80 euros is: girl_cray: disgrace.

I will not tell you the manufacturer,

Well, apparently, such frying pans continue to be released
LLC "Ural Plant of Household Products"
Address: 454012, Chelyabinsk, Kopeyskoe highway house 9, building P
It is possible that you can order Ten in the same place if it burned out ..

Added Thursday, 18 Aug 2016 7:26 PM

And 80 euros is a disgrace.

So they are also "killed" at all .. All second-hand., They obviously used them more than once or even not twice. And they used it so well ..
It was lucky for me that three years ago I found a completely new one, which had never been plugged into an outlet. And there also one of the plugs did not work. my husband fixed everything right away .. So maybe they tried to turn it on, but it did not work, so it had been lying since 1985 somewhere in a storehouse until they decided to sell it. And here I am all such a beauty ...
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just don't like the uncovered top ... it will get dirty and burn fat on it, for example from baked chicken .. and washing is not very convenient

In in and I do not like the unclosed ten.

Added Thursday, 18 Aug 2016 7:31 PM

in our Miracles, a more gentle heating, suitable for pies ...
well, that's me, I'm just thinking ... I

That's for sure

Added Thursday, 18 Aug 2016 7:34 PM

In my Miracle, there are two keys: 400 and 600 V.
I bake for 600, everything is baked in 30-40 minutes.
If you turn on both keys at the same time, it turns out 1000 V, but with this heat everything burns very quickly.

This is the best choice of wattage, but you don't need more than 1000 watts anyway.

Added Thursday, 18 Aug 2016 7:36 PM

1200-1650w

I don't know directly how the baked goods will look like with such a high power and what their quality will be.

Added on Thursday, 18 Aug 2016 7:40 PM

At our flea market I saw on sale a new Miracle, with two keys for $ 10.

It's not expensive at all. I would take this second. People do not understand their happiness

I don't know directly how the baked goods will look like with such a high power and what their quality will be.

maybe they sell therefore it doesn't look good ..
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On the one hand, it's good, but if it burns out, there is nothing to replace.

Yes, it's a problem if the ten burns out. But such cases are very rare. It depends of course what quality ten.

Added Thursday, 18 Aug 2016 7:54 PM

Precisely TEN!

Is it easy to get to him? Is the lid disassembled or is it generally publicly available?

Added Thursday, 18 Aug 2016 19:59

... And here I am all such a beauty ...

And she is smart, because she quickly bought the necessary device.

[Alese]

Alese, so here half of the girls have the same Chelyabinsk stove for 500 watts and bakes twice as fast as mine.

And she is smart, because she quickly bought the necessary device.

Nimble ..: DI really have been looking for her for a long time. because I did not know the name .. I was looking for it by typing ..

Lyudmila, the cover can be disassembled. The screws are unscrewed from below. The heating element inside the cover is attached with these screws. I have a suspicion that just by these screws it is possible to determine that there is a heating element in the cover, and not a spiral. The screws are located like this (picture from the Internet):
Does the spiral cover have the same screws?

Does the spiral cover have the same screws?

Yes. I have at least the same ... you can change ...

Today I pictured a kind of pizza on batter. She greased the bottom of the Miracle with oil (oh, I had to take the trouble to lay the parchment!) Made a batter based on old farm cream diluted with water, salt, sugar, spices, olive oil and a little yeast. I poured it to the bottom without lifting, turned it on to warm up. After 10 minutes ketchup dripped. Then she put the filling - sausage, mushrooms, tomatoes. After 50 minutes, sprinkled with cheese. An hour later, there was no more strength to wait. Hot not raw)) For good, still fry a little, but it's almost done. It tasted good, but was barely torn from the pan in pieces. Next time I will lay a piece of paper and cook a little in advance. Mine were already worn out while this pseudo pizza was baked for dinner instead of bread.

[Tillotama]

Galina, is the spiral fastened with screws?
Tillotama, yes, something takes a very long time. It is necessary to measure the resistance of the spiral. According to the calculation for 500 W it should be 96, 8 ohms.

Galina, is the spiral fastened with screws?

Well, I didn't take apart my oven.She's a worker.

so here half of the girls have the same Chelyabinsk stove for 500 watts and bakes twice as fast as mine.

Exactly, exactly. I have dismantled my old 30-year-old Miracle oven over the years of operation 5-8 times due to the burnout of the spiral at the point of connection to one of the contacts. Each time I reconnected, but the spiral slowly became shorter and shorter. I stretched it a little, but the number of turns gradually decreased. And because of this, she began to bake even faster. But you can't shorten it too much, such a spiral will often burn out due to the current load, which was the result of several repairs of my old stove. Everything is good in moderation.

barely torn from the pan in pieces

It is better to lubricate with a special lubricant, well, he probably knows a mixture of vegetable oil + fat TPA ghee and flour ... checked, nothing sticks at all .. I only use it .. Everything flies out like a bullet.

Does the spiral cover have the same screws?

The spiral cap has no screws at all, at least in mine. On the sides of the upper part of the lid there are small notches-notches in the metal and they bend over to keep the lower part of the lid from falling out. And the spiral is not fastened with screws.

slit-notch

Exactly .. notches .. eh .. dark Ota ...

Lyudmila, it means that if the cover is with screws, then there is a heating element. And the cover is disassembled in the same way as the spiral. The screws only fasten the heating element.

Here is a bottom view of the lid. There is a spiral inside, but there are no screws on the outside.

Added Thursday 18 Aug 2016 08:44 PM

Here is a large illustration of how the lower part of the lid is held and does not fall out. I hope you can see. There, on the sides of the upper part of the lid, a piece of metal is cut out and it bending inward does not allow the lower part of the lid to fall out.

Added Thursday 18 Aug 2016 8:57 PM

Here is another photo, but the truth with the shadow turned out. Another photo of the same mount. In general, these mounts are disgusting. Why? Yes, I somehow removed, or rather lifted the cold lid from the lower bowl, and the lower part of the lid bang and detached from the upper one (fell out). And the spiral with insulators there is not fixed in a circle and if it does not adhere to the lower part of the lid (it lies there in a groove in a circle but is not fixed), when it falls out due to poor fastening, then the spiral falls out. In general, the design is still the same.

Lyudmila, thanks for the photo!
The conclusion is obvious: if you want a heater with a heating element, look for a cover with screws
The fastenings of the lower and upper parts are the same as yours, but the lower part has never fallen out, it sits firmly ... Maybe the metal is not as soft as on yours?

The conclusion is obvious: if you want a stove with heating elements, look for a cover with screws

Yes, I'm at odds with this design.

Added Thursday, 18 Aug 2016 9:09 PM

Maybe the metal isn't as soft as yours?

Yes, in my metal the metal is soft, I use pliers as you like to better secure the top and bottom of the lid.

Added Thursday 18 Aug 2016 10:05 PM

Who cares. This is a spiral with insulators. General form.

Added Thursday, 18 Aug 2016 10:10 PM

This is where the ends of the spiral are attached. It can be seen that there is no part of the insulators where the spiral is bare. The missing insulators shattered. If the bare spiral touches the body, it will shock.

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Type of insulators, including one separately. They are ceramic and therefore fragile.

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Here one insulator is shown from the other side.

Added Thursday, 18 Aug 2016 10:19 PM

This is the view inside the bottom of the lid. A garland of insulators with a spiral is placed in the groove around the circumference.

Added Thursday, 18 Aug 2016 10:20 PM

This groove is closer. In general, the device is primitive, but we are happy

In my heating element like this, I found a picture on the network:

In my heating element like this, I found a picture on the network:

Yeah, if you have to look for such a replacement for the faulty one and if you do not find it exactly with such a trajectory, then you can probably try to bend it yourself with the help of men's hands, which is suitable for the length of the ten. This is my fantasy about replacing such a shadow.

Well, I put the cottage cheese casserole yesterday. TWO! hours until ready from a cold state.


The poet's soul could not bear, today she persuaded her husband to reveal this miracle in the literal and figurative sense. I'm completely at a loss. I have no screws on the lid, there are simple clamps. And inside TEN !!! round. So fat, but it looks weak ((And now what to do ...

Maybe you can change it to a more powerful one? This is certainly not the case, for two hours to cook cottage cheese

And inside TEN !!! round. So fat, but it looks weak ((And now what to do ...

Here, I say that a lot depends on the quality of the shade, that is, on its thickness, the diameter of this metal bar. And what to do is a big question. Look for a thinner diameter ??? Yes, even this form ??? It is unlikely to work out. In this case, it is necessary to find a ten of the corresponding length. And if you find a ten of this length, but straight, then how to bend it along such a trajectory. Of course, you can somehow bend it, but it's not at home on a stool. And one more crazy thought, what if we shorten the existing ten. Saw off from one end (we sometimes shorten the spiral if it burns out). It's just that such a thick ten takes too long to gain temperature, and if you reduce its length, then, by analogy with a conventional spiral, the ten should warm up faster. And of course, with this method, the ten will lie along the diameter of the smaller circle, that is, a little further from the edges. After shortening it will have to be slightly bent around the circumference, otherwise its shortened end will not reach the bolted connection. Of course, this will be an experiment and its exact results are not known, since here you need the golden hands of a very skilled man and his desire. Well, it doesn't hurt to listen to some advice on this ten here. Well, they do it at the factory. Or maybe, for cleanliness, measure the voltage in the network? Here's ten for you. The spiral is easy to shorten.

[Tillotama]

TillotamaDo you have a modern miracle or a Soviet one?

First of all, it makes sense to measure the resistance of the heating element, to check whether its resistance corresponds to the declared power. The resistance must be measured at the ends of the heating element and at the plug contacts. Maybe it's the poor soldering of the heating element itself to the contacts.
I found 2 firms that make heating elements: Miasskaya ("TEN-Miass") Piterskaya ("PK Marion") But something tells me that the price for them will not be humane

[Niarma]

Niarma, production Chelyabinsk July this year.
Alese, we are out of town, all appliances are at home in Moscow time. We'll come to try it on. If they don't kill me with this vessel.
It's probably easier for me to buy a new one on Avito and that's it.
Now I'm wondering - who has a miracle regarding the new production of this-last year - how about the cooking time?
Can I write to the factory?

Added on Friday 19 Aug 2016 04:33 PM

Mila56, oh no, no one will shorten ten.

Added on Friday 19 Aug 2016 06:15 PM

It's me again)) I have a movie here and Germans)))
I put bread in Miracle, (in a whisper, there was not enough flour - I poured the semi-liquid dough) 50 minutes passed ... A thunderstorm began, the light was cut off))
Opened - half finished. And now what - take it out and put it in a frying pan on gas - then turn it over?

[Alese]

Can I write to the factory?

A very good idea. Only in order to have something to present it is necessary to measure the tension. That was not lower than in the instructions.

A thunderstorm began, the light was cut off))

What a misfortune

And now what - take it out and put it in a frying pan on gas - then turn it over?

Now it's too late to talk about this, of course (I just got to the computer), but as I understand there is no oven in the gas stove. Then the pan remains.

Added Saturday 20 Aug 2016 01:11 PM

According to the calculation for 500 W it should be 96, 8 ohms.

Alese, Alexandra, remind from what formula you can get this resistance?

I had the same one, released last year. He baked for 2 hours. Kurnik is small, 8 puff pies - more than an hour, the quality of baking is super, but time !!! Mom dear! I sent it with my mother to the dacha. There she rejoices while she does something in the garden, this miracle will bake everything for her. In the heat, I regretted that I gave it away, I almost bought one more. While holding on, what if I find another similar one?

Luda, power is equal to the square of the voltage divided by the resistance.
Hence, the resistance is equal to the square of the voltage divided by the power.
If the declared power is 500W, and the operating voltage is 220, resistance = 220X220: 500 = 96.8 Ohm

[Alexandra]

Alexandra, thank you very much, I will certainly write it down.

and I will try to apply this formula in three-phase circuits, on transformers with different groups of connections. In general, I will try to check and run it in at work

finally managed to load yesterday's bread. The light was given after 3 hours for half an hour. Then they cut it off for another hour, then turned it on. I didn't pull out anything and it was baked for a total of 5 hours or something))
The bread did not fall, a little rubbery, whitish below, but edible, especially when there is nothing) The flour in the house is over, I will go tomorrow to Moscow time))



spices on top and not black burners))

and it was baked for a total of 5 hours or something))

Good bread and it's good that it's finished

Here, today my Miracle oven baked in haste.

Added Sunday 21 Aug 2016 7:30 pm

Something similar to charlotte, but there are not enough apples. And the dough for 5 eggs + 150 gr. sugar + 180 gr. flour (next time I will put 20 grams less, otherwise the dough at the end has fallen after beating eggs with sugar). It tasted like a biscuit, which is what I wanted.

Added Sunday 21 Aug 2016 07:35 PM

Well, I put the cottage cheese casserole yesterday.

Appetizing