Mila56
Taia, and I kept waiting for the result, bought it or not. And there was still no review. All thought that they did not have time to buy it, that someone was ahead. Do not be alarmed that the first time did not work out. For starters, you can bake cheesecake buns made from yeast. test. This is the easiest one to try out Wonder Woman. I have an ordinary Miracle oven, like many others, and its power is 500 watts. No more need for baking, otherwise it will burn. And you need to lay out cheesecake buns for baking in a bowl that is lighter, thinner (which is without wires, this is important)). Cover with a lid with wires (with a shade inside). And to bake buns, turn on one of the two keys! Only one! Try to turn on the 400 W key first (if there is a power indication somewhere on them). Even if you confuse it for the first time and turn it on at 600 W. then it's not scary, you just need to look after the baked goods and be guided by the smell. I'm in my usual Miracle stove with a power of 500 watts. I bake such buns for 20 minutes. and no more, but this time for already warmed up for 10 minutes. stoves. I can put the first batch in a cold Miracle oven and here the time will be 20 minutes + 10 minutes. to warm up, that is, 30 minutes. And for the next parties already 20 minutes. The only thing is that the baking time of the same buns in different Miracle ovens can vary by + - 5 minutes. A chicken pie for the entire diameter of the bowl, taking up half of the bowl's height in raw form, is baked for about 1 hour. It turns out great. Now it's hot and I'm not baking yet., Otherwise it would show the result (it seems there are no pictures of the chicken coaster, I will look now). The main thing is that all baked goods are baked (laid out) in a light bowl and on one button! It will take a little time to make friends with the Miracle, and everything will be.


Added Wednesday, 06 Jul 2016 10:04 AM

Taia, if in operation there is one and only one of the two keys (which is needed for baking), then the stove operates at a power of 400 or 600 W. For a large kurnik pie, you can turn on 600 watts. But to cook meat under a fur coat (meat in French) or portioned chicken with potatoes, you can turn on two keys at the same time (for quick cooking). Although in mine I make this meat in French and 500 W is enough, just a little more time. True, the meat, potatoes, etc. I place everything in the same lower, light bowl. And the upper bowl, where the shades are, must be protected (but this is my copy), and in your copy, everything is closed in the upper lid, which is sooo good. Theoretically, in the upper bowl in your copy, if you turn it down, you can fry fried potatoes, scrambled eggs, and anything that requires a crust.
Taia
Quote: katko
Congratulations on a great purchase, and even for such a price.

Thank you!

We have such a swamp in the region, people sell everything they don't need, but there are no buyers.
Probably it was possible to bargain for a smaller amount, but I didn't have the audacity.
Mila56, thank you very much for your detailed consultation! I understood what and how, in my head the information was systematized!
Baked only once, it was damp inside, and burned out on top. But I myself do not know why, I turned on both keys.
Once again, I did not dare to spoil the products. And when I saw the pastries from Katerina-katko, I was generally driven to this topic on the forum to ask for help.
Thank you all very much!
Mila56
Quote: Taia
I baked only once, it was damp inside, and burned out on top. But I myself do not know why, I turned on both keys.
Taia, everything will definitely work out.
Katko
Quote: Taia
We have such a swamp in the region
I know about your region .. your land is blessed, ... it's a pity of course that you did this to people .. you have so many tasty things growing .. it's a pity that they do not bring them to us .. and people would earn money from you and us buy quality products ....
Oh, I'm very, very glad that my review was helpful.
There are many helpful and experienced people, they will definitely help)
Taia
Here's what else I wanted to ask and forgot.
Can you put baking dishes - silicone, Teflon - in this frying pan? On the similarity and on the principle as in Princess use.
If you have experience, please write.
Mila56
Quote: Taia
Can you put baking dishes - silicone, Teflon - in this frying pan?
Taya., any shape suitable for the oven. I use silicone a lot. For example I put silic. form into a bowl, fill it with liquid dough for a cake and it turns out I have it in the shape of a flower. I read that girls use metal molds perfectly. You can just cover it with parchment with sides. Cut a circle with a diameter larger than the diameter of the bottom so that there is enough for the sides. Along the edges of the circle, along the entire circumference, make cuts to the height of the sides. The round piece of parchment will fit to the bottom, and the cut strips will lie on the side. But this is a possible option, I never do that. with silicone it's easier for me. And it's better to bake buns without paper, silicium. rugs, that is, we lay on the bare bottom of the bowl. I even mold a big chicken pie on the bare bottom of the bowl. True, you must then manage to pull this big pie out after cooking. In this case, I use two wide shoulder blades at the same time. Pulling out with parchment would be easier. But it is difficult for me to mold something on parchment, which moves in the process, although I have not tried it. And if you take out the cake directly from the bowl with two spatulas, then, depending on the type of dough, it can break (break). And silicone is more suitable for working with batter, it is difficult to form a cake in this form due to the softness of silicone.
Taia
Ludmila, Thank you.
Katko
I baked in metal, here
Electric frying pan
and also on paper so that it does not stick ... I will not make a universal lubricant in any way ... or more treatment so that it does not stick, so for now I insure myself
Mila56
Quote: katko
I baked in metal, here
What a delicious pastry. I already miss working with the dough, but it's 33-35 degrees outside. heat, and in the apartment +30 and I absolutely do not want to do unnecessary body movements. Yes, and there is no one (I live alone), and guests and children are less often now, everyone is hot.
Niarma
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Katko
they are asking dearly
flete
Ladies, good time) Please, take me into your ranks)
A week ago I bought the Miracle-M, we have no other options in the province. I liked it very much! I bake every day) mine got bored with baking during the heat, and I kept trying to find at least some analogue of the Russian oven, at least something closer to the quality of baking from it - neither a bread maker, nor an oven, nor a multicooker suits. But the electric frying pan turned out to be the closest, and very convenient, and its baking speed compared to the rest is fast - it takes me 30 minutes to bake, and I load it completely, I bring in dough at the rate of 250-300 ml of liquid, today I baked bread for 40 minutes on rye flour, it bakes just fine, a wonderful crust above and below.
The first couple of times I put the foil on the bottom, then it stopped, nothing sticks, and the crust bakes better, with the foil it turns out a little damp.
In addition to baking, I have not tried anything yet, but already these are just very happy)
Thank you so much for this topic and for the valuable advice in it, because there is nothing in the instructions, and you have shared everything you need to comfortably cook in it)
Mila56
flete, Oksana, with the arrival of the topic! Miracle M is a wonderful, practical and inexpensive purchase. With what congratulations! It's just a lifesaver
flete
Thank you) Yes, this is actually a miracle, I even managed to appreciate it in such a short time! And I haven't tried anything other than baking))
Thank you, Lyudmila, for your advice, very valuable information!
But what is interesting is that I have never heard of such stoves or seen them, for some reason they were not very common among us, apparently.I stumbled across it when I was looking for something new to buy myself, and then this topic helped to make the right choice.
And I was waiting for a very thin frying pan - I ordered it through the online store with delivery to the city store, but it turned out to be very decent thickness and nothing knocks on the lid)
I had read the topic, and asked a question when ordering - which manufacturer is the frying pan? The manager answered. that it is written simply Russia, and I have already explained that there may be Moscow, Chelyabinsk and Kamyshlovsk ones))) I got a grip on this topic))
Taia
And today I baked Sugar Pie in my Miracle-M.
How great, and how I liked it. Convenient shape of a frying pan, no heat in the kitchen from the included oven, baked very well. Happy with the purchase.
Mila56
Quote: flete
but it turned out to be very decent thickness and nothing knocks in the lid)
Oksana, does not knock or rattle on the lid because this is exactly the Miracle M, and not the Miracle of the oven. Their device is slightly different, although Miracle M did not hold in her hands and did not open. The cover of an ordinary Miracle oven can be easily disassembled and there is a spiral that goes inside a large number of ceramic insulators. These insulators, when rubbed against the metal of the case, cause such a thundering sound. And in the miracle girl, I will assume that there are tena, and not insulators with a spiral, so there is no such sound. And which manufacturer did this Miracle is not important.



Added on Tuesday 19 Jul 2016 09:31 PM

Taia, Taya, it's cool that they made friends with their Miracle.
flete
Lyudmila, yes, I understood that - you wrote about this even earlier, why he knocks. But since I did not go shopping myself, I had to give valuable instructions) so that the handles were checked, the lid was turned over and checked so that it did not knock too much)))
Yes, it's not for nothing that this frying pan is called a miracle or a miracle, in fact - a miracle! I fell in love with her) And the volume of such a decent baking turns out - I did exactly the same amount in a 5-liter multicooker, and the top also sits there, even if you catch up with the grill lid, and don't turn it over - it still settles ugly so ... here every time I admire the baking, the main thing is not to do much, otherwise I almost burned out yesterday, made 50 ml more liquid, so I had to cover it with foil, I have a couple of places that bake more strongly, I have already paid attention to this.
I made a pie from pita bread, it also turned out to be too high, only then I realized that it was necessary to first close the foil and bake for 20 minutes, and then remove the foil, turn it off and it would be fine. But it was so good - I turned it over, there was a golden crust.
Mila56
Quote: flete
there was a golden crust.
Oksana, I say that this is a magic wand!
flete
That's for sure) It remains to try other dishes in it, not just pastries). I keep thinking - why I have never seen them, these pans ... Moreover, my friends do not know about them. Here in Kazakhstan there were such in Soviet times, here a friend recalled ...
But then our gas stoves baked well, not like now, although they were on 2 burners, such baking was awesome, and now we have unsuccessful, it bakes for a long time, and if you do it harder, it burns out, and you don't need so much, but the toad crushes me - once the oven has turned on - it is necessary to hammer it to the full).
Mila56
Quote: flete
and now we have a bad one,
There are really a lot of problems with ovens in gas stoves. I myself am now in the choice of a gas stove. I perfectly understand that the best oven in it is an electric one. Choosing and buying such a gas stove is not a problem. But we must look at the days of bare retirement (no part-time jobs at all) and not forget about the cost of electricity. And if you often bake in email. oven such a gas stove, it will fly into a pretty penny, especially since the desktop email. I have a stove. Therefore, in thought, and our Miracles and the like are very economical in terms of energy consumption.
flete
Yes, the efficiency and speed of this frying pan is very captivating)
And we also have natural gas, so it's simply not profitable to take an electric oven ... But even in a gas oven, you don't have enough nerves to cook, especially in the heat.
And in fact, it turns out that this frying pan is just salvation) And the main thing is that it includes not as much as in a gas oven, but not enough.
Mila56
Quote: flete
this pan is just salvation)
In in, exactly.
alfa20
In our heat, this "Miracle" is simply salvation. I have an old stove, even my mother's. I read Temki yesterday, and at night looking at the exploits pulled me. In a couple of hours everything is ready. I had to chew cinnaboncini buns again at night.

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flete
What a beauty!) I also baked bread in it today, put the potatoes for the first time. I'll try what happens.
Taia
alfa20, rolls class!
Oh, I also want such rolls! What is the recipe?
alfa20
Taya, this is a "creatively crafted" quick dough recipe that I spied on say7... Well, imagination helped bring you closer to the famous Cinnabon buns. The main thing is that it turns out quickly, without eggs, in vegetable oil, and no one ever guesses that the "muffin" is so ... budget.
Tillotama
Hello girls! Polleta I live in the country, I realized that I was already beginning to yearn without an oven. I bought a miracle frying pan. I suspect that I have something wrong with her. Charlotte is baked for 1h15min. Chicken with potatoes 2.5 hours. Now I put the yeast pies. An hour has passed - the dough has just begun to grab from above. Truth is warmed up evenly - this is the only plus. Is there something wrong with the heating coil? Manufacturing Chelyabinsk, July this year ... Che to do that?
Jiri
Tillotamawhat are you not betting on? When I put the miracle on a stone stand at the dacha, I also waited for hours. Then I read what should be put on the grate, so that the miracle would not heat up everything that is in the code, and it went
Anastasenok
Tillotama, well, maybe the voltage in the network at the dacha is weak
Mila56
Tillotama, it would be nice to measure the voltage in the email. networks. Maybe it's less than 220-230 Volts, then everything will take longer to cook. Such cases of undervoltage are not uncommon. But I suspect that there is no voltage meter in the house. It should not be an indicator that only shows the absence or presence of voltage, but a voltmeter. Electricians have them. But look how fast other emails work. devices, el. kettle for example. I somehow cooked chicken and potatoes in a miracle oven. But although the chicken was cut, it was not defrosted, and as a result, then cooking took somewhere 1, -2 hours. I don’t remember the exact time of this incident, because it was long ago, and I didn’t follow the time. But it was a long time for sure. And of course the cooking time in this case will also depend on the volume of the prepared meat dish. But yeast dough pies should have time to cook in 15-25 minutes. maximum. So, in your miracle frying pan, the heating goes in the lid? And then email. pans are available only with bottom heating, but they are not suitable for baking. If the miracle is an oven with top heating and it takes too long to cook, then you can shorten the spiral. This can be done by both man and woman. Disassemble the top cover (there are small metal bends along the edges of the cover so that the lower part of the cover does not fall out) by bending the folds. Unscrew one (only on one side) contact on which the spiral with ceramic insulators is attached. Shorten those spiral (bite off with pliers). But how much to bite off the spiral is a question of course. I would start with 1-2 cm and no more. Due to the shorter length, the spiral will heat up faster. It's like when it was e-mail 20-30 years ago. tiles with an open spiral, which periodically burned out in some place, were connected (twisted two burnt ends). As a result, such tiles after several such small repairs were heated mercilessly, well, that is, they were prepared quickly. Distracted a little. After biting off 1-2 cm, fasten (screw) this end in place. But then you need to connect and fix the top and their covers, and the spiral with insulators should be located in a special groove for this. Skill is needed here. But I have done all this more than once (like other girls from the forum), but it was due to the fact that the spiral in my stove burned off from contact.This is in my old miracle stove which is about 30 years old. I now have a new stove, also a Chelyabinsk one, and there were no such problems. And then maybe you just badly (not completely) stuck email on the lid. the wire . Conduct this experiment: turn on an empty stove, especially check the contact on the lid (it is tight, but insert all the way). In 10 minutes. splash water on the cover. The spray should sizzle as if it were dripping on a hot iron. ... if the hiss splashes after 10 -15 minutes. was, then the heating is correct. That's exactly how it is in my stove. And if there is no hiss of splashes, then this is possible due to insufficient voltage in the network and if the voltage is not raised, then the spiral will have to be shortened.


Added Wednesday 17 Aug 2016 08:19 PM

Quote: Jiri
what are you not betting on? When I put the miracle on a stone stand at the dacha, I also waited for hours.
Exactly, this is important.
Tillotama
Jiri, the frying pan stands on a stand from the kit on a wooden plywood on the table. So we definitely exclude this moment.
Mila56, thank you about the spiral, my husband's puzzle, if the cooking time finishes me. Now I was baking two batches of pies in a row - the first batch was 1.15, the second 55 minutes. Heating from above. The lid warms up quickly. After 2-3 minutes it is no longer possible to touch it with your hand, the water hiss.
For the accuracy of the experiment, I will take it later to Moscow time, check it at home in time. Maybe the truth is something with tension. There is probably no voltmeter, although you need to ask your husband. But the slow cooker, the hotter grill and the kettle are boiling and cooking also on time.
As for not completely sticking the wire in - an interesting point. I have always believed that either there is contact or not.
Mila56
Quote: Tillotama
After 2-3 minutes it is no longer possible to touch it with your hand, the water hiss.
So everything is fine with tension.
Quote: Tillotama
But a slow cooker, a hotter grill and a kettle are boiling and cooking also on time.
This confirms that everything is normal with tension.
Quote: Tillotama
As for not completely sticking the wire in - an interesting point. I have always believed that either there is contact or not.
It happens that the plug does not fit tightly into the email. socket. It seems to have turned on, but after 10 minutes. you look, and e-mail. the plug came out slightly and there is no contact

Quote: Tillotama
first game 1.15, second 55 min

Was the first batch put in a cold oven? In any case, this time for pies is very long. The riddle is straight. I know that some girls in the evening in the miracle bowl of the oven put, for example, blanks from dough for buns. Put all this in the refrigerator overnight. And in the morning they take out the bowl with the blanks and all that remains is to plug it into the network for fresh pastries for breakfast. In this case, the baking time will slightly increase, since both the dough and the bowl have a temperature much lower than room temperature at the beginning of baking.
Tillotama
Mila56, with a plug, it’s just fine ... Her husband has already changed her to the euro, because sovetskaya did not enter anywhere. And it is well inserted into the frying pan itself.
The first batch is cold, yes ... But in general, time strains me a lot ...
Mila56
Quote: Tillotama
But in general, time strains me a lot ...
Such a time would have strained me too.
Tillotama
Electric frying pan
I'll show you at least what happened. Pies with apple and black chokeberry, and the second frying pan - with suluguni cheese and cottage cheese a la cheesecake. The second frying pan is all crooked, because while they lay for an hour on the proofer - I didn't sprinkle it with flour - everything stuck together. I barely dragged them onto the frying pan.
It was baked wonderfully, and the top and bottom, the dough is tender, light, from what it was, everything is by sight. If not for the speed of baking - no complaints.
ps the dough came up in a hotter at 65 degrees - periodically turned it on. There is no more warm place in the house.
Mila56
Quote: Tillotama
I'll show you at least what happened.
Oh, what a treat. Damn, I don't bake yet because of the heat, but I miss this business so much. Today we have 34 degrees. on the street and 30 degrees in my apartment



Added Wednesday 17 Aug 2016 9:53 PM

Tillotama, came off with baked goods so mentally
Tillotama
The first place where we put the condo is in the kitchen in the apartment) I live there)) And then devices make life much easier - you can not stick around the stove)) I also chose a new stove with a timer,to be cut down by itself)
Mila56
Quote: Tillotama
The first place where we put the condo is in the kitchen in the apartment
I have a kitchen of 5 meters and you can't put a separate condo on such an area. You will need to take more for the whole apartment. I'm just puzzled now by the question of where to hang it outside. Either on a large loggia, on it in the summer all the same, all the double-glazed windows are always open differently on the loggia there is a steam room. Or hang it under the window.
Tillotama
Definitely not on the loggia. We made such a mistake - in the nursery, the masters said that it was impossible to go outside and hung it on the loggia. The motor chokes after 10 minutes of operation, the device turns off. Even with the windows wide open. And now the same masters are asking for another 10 thousand and are ready to hang it on the street ...

On the topic of the pan. I found where the spirals are sold separately - can it completely replace it?
Mila56
Quote: Tillotama
I found where the spirals are sold separately - can it completely replace it?
There is no need to spend money on a new spiral. Moreover, the wire from which the spiral is made can be of different sections. It is enough to shorten your spiral located in the miracle stove, stretch it a little so that all the insulators remain. And for the future, of course, the spiral can be taken in reserve, but it must be made of wire of the same section, that is, exactly the same. In this lid, several insulators can still be chipped over time. They are small, there are many of them. But if there are a lot of them, then it will not be possible to use the stove. These insulators insulate the spiral along its entire length, and, say, a fourth of them will split, then the spiral wire (when it is energized) will touch the lid body and the stove will shock when touched. These insulators are ceramic, and therefore fragile and when the lid is turned over, they will rattle like a rattle, knock on the case and slowly crack. In my old stove, 3-4 insulators broke in 30 years. But this is the number of broken ones that does not affect the email. safety. And I used to always turn the lid over when I removed the hot one. It is better not to turn it over, but to take it off and put it aside. But if the cover falls on the floor, many insulators can crack, and where are they then to look for for replacement ..



Added Wednesday 17 Aug 2016 10:50 PM

Quote: Tillotama
The motor chokes after 10 minutes of operation, the device turns off.
Thanks for this warning
Alese
Tillotama, if it bakes well, does not dry baked goods, what's the point of changing the spiral? And what is the power of the stove indicated?
By the way, in my Miracle, in the lid, there is not a spiral on insulators, but a heating element. Year of release -1983, price 14 rubles.
Mila56
Quote: Alese
in my Miracle, in the lid, not a spiral on insulators, but a heating element. Year of release -1983, price 14 rubles.
Ten is good. Doesn't rattle like a rattle. My brand new stove (its lid) also did not rattle at the beginning. And who is the manufacturer of your Miracle stove? Is there definitely ten? Opened it up? There are such stoves, of course, but they are too rare, well, I'm talking about those that were produced in those years.
redleafa
The miracle has a power of 500 watts in total. Therefore, it bakes for so long. The number of products is large. But bakes are wonderful!
gawala
Quote: Tillotama
The first batch is cold, yes ... But in general, time strains me a lot ...
first try to warm up the lid for about 15 minutes, and then cover the frying pan itself with this lid ..
This is how it is done in the "Miracle Oven" .. It is the Miracle Oven for my mother. Then the cover heats up, and then it covers the form itself ..
I really baked buns in the summer, did not warm up anything .. buns are baked for exactly 45 minutes. Chicken an hour and a half, depending on the size of the chicken ... Vegetable stew is also about an hour and a half, sometimes a little more .. I write time under a cold lid.



Added on Thursday 18 Aug 2016 08:08 AM

Quote: Mila56
And who is the producer
My mother has two Miracle Ovens. One with a spiral in the lid, this is the German GDR, and the second. with tenom, from Ust-Kamenogorsk, it was brought to me in the year 91, probably, when the USSR collapsed and it was very difficult to take something out of Kazakhstan .. Only the second time they managed to take it out .. The oven is good .. It bakes quickly ..

By the way, about the German stoves ..
I wanted to have a miracle oven here too. began to search.Found it. In German ibey, still in 1987, production of the GDR .. new, already with a warranty card. cost 40 euros .. Bought. stood for three years, well, new, it's a pity to get dirty .. This year, all the same, I began to bake buns in it. I like it more than in the oven ..
And then I started looking at something again, stumbled upon these stoves on Ibei .. gasped .. Old, dirty, used and stand ... dear ... 80 euros ... The Germans also see HP reading ...
Bozhedarka

🔗

here it is an American miracle oven. Sears Electric Fry Pan Stainless Steel Skillet With Broiler Lid Model 587.655200
gawala
Quote: Bozhedarka
as I see the heating from both the lid and the base itself.
In Russian versions from the lid. In German, there are only openers (for mom), as there are both from the base and the cover, two plugs (??) and two switches on the plugs, but one cord with a plug. If you want it this way, but you want it differently (I have this option)
Katko
Anastasiahow cool ... I would really like this
powerful straight, but made of stainless steel ...
What food does she have?
American technology does not suit us in terms of power supply, unless through a stabilizer with a converter ...


Added Thursday, 18 Aug 2016 11:01

just don't like the uncovered top ... it will get dirty and burn fat on it, for example from baked chicken .. and washing is not very convenient
and, in theory, the device is very powerful, apparently more suitable for meat or poultry on the wire rack ... and baking is more like a pizza type ...
in our Miracles, a more gentle heating, suitable for pies ...
Well, that's me, I'm just arguing ... I may be wrong of course))
gawala
Quote: katko
powerful straight
1200-1650w
Taia
In my Miracle, there are two keys: 400 and 600 V.
I bake for 600, everything is baked in 30-40 minutes.
If you turn on both keys at the same time, it turns out 1000 V, but with this heat everything burns very quickly.

....................

At our flea market I saw on sale a new Miracle, with two keys for $ 10.
I campaign for my friends - but nobody knows.
And I'm very happy with mine.
gawala
Quote: Taia
In my Miracle, there are two keys: 400 and 600 V.
I went to see what I have written on the "keys" ...
On both 250W 10A ,.

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