Electric frying pan

[Ipatiya]

Ipatiya, that's about the grate thanks! I'll take a microwave grill from the house, I have 3 of them.

[Svetta]

Svetta, looked at the ancient instructions from email. frying pans (fortunately, it has survived) and so its release is 83 years old, power is 500 W. (you can see the power on the lid of the frying pan, where you connect the cord). The technical specifications indicate that the time for heating the air to 180 degrees (inside the pan) is no more than 15 minutes. Email the pan should be placed on any wire rack. If it stands on any plane, then it (a plane - a table, for example) heats up and, what is important, it loses the temperature inside. lower parts of the pan. The result is a pale, unbaked bottom. Over the years, we have repaired the pan 4-5 times. The breakage is always one - the spiral breaks off from the contacts inside the cover and you just need to fix the spiral. Well, another reason (possible) non-printing., Pale. the bottom is that the spiral is too long. If anyone remembers before there were email. Cooking tiles with an open spiral (not with a tenom) and on it when the spiral is long (new) it lasts a long time. And when the spiral burned off, it was connected at the break, after which the spiral became shorter and warmed up much faster. After several such connections, the coil warmed up very quickly. Also in email. shortening the spiral (removing 2-4 turns) from the end, we will get a higher temperature inside the pan, which is not enough to get a fried and not raw bottom of the baking.

Troubleshooting method (coil burned out or shortened). Bend back the four stops that fix the bottom cover, remove the cover, replace the heating coil element (the coil was previously sold in household stores). My spiral burned off several times at one of the ends of the mount. I secured this end. the spiral was shortened in this case. For 4-5 such repairs (for all years), the spiral was shortened by about 5-7 turns (in total, that is, not at one time). After that, you need to stretch it quite a bit in order to fit it along the length in the groove located at the bottom of the cover and assemble the cover in the reverse order. Before, everything was baked perfectly in the pan, and after shortening the spiral (forcedly due to a break), the baked goods are baked faster by 5-10 minutes. But it is impossible to shorten the spiral much - the baked goods will burn out and the spiral will often burn out (I am an electrician with more than 30 years of experience, therefore, in such detail). Also pay attention to the integrity of the ceramic insulators (inside the cover). I have 2 insulators split and so many faulty ones are not important. And these insulators isolate the energized spiral from the building of st. frying pans. And if the insulators are not enough (they should be evenly spaced along the entire spiral, i.e. the spiral inside the insulators), then when you touch the email. the frying pan will shock you. Well, I also downloaded you. I hope this information is useful to at least someone.

[Mila56]

Mila56, Ludmila, you didn't upload ... you gave us such a cool lecture .. thanks!
This is very useful to know! !!

[Mila56]

Mila56, thank you very much for the detailed story! I'll try to open the lid and shorten the spiral, I'll write off the results.

On the topic, you can add that in factories where these e-mails are collected. pans in the absence of a wire (for winding a spiral) of the required section (diameter), most likely, temporarily make this spiral from a wire of a slightly larger section, that is, this wire is slightly thicker. In order to represent this, for clarity, take two identical pencils and wrap each one (make turns around tightly to each other) with wire of different cross-section (wire without insulation, i.e. without a sheath).As a result, we get two almost identical spirals, and heat up in e-mail. network (if connected) they will be different. The spiral that is made of thinner wire will both heat up faster and burn brighter in color, and therefore will emit more heat (temperature). In a frying pan with such a spiral, baked goods will not be soggy and pale. In another case, the spiral (made of a thicker wire) will not burn as brightly (provided that the number of turns is the same), and if we need it to burn brighter, we need to shorten it by 2-6 turns. If, after shortening, connecting, assembling the frying pan, the bottom remains unbaked, remove two turns at a time. After that, each time after assembling the pan, try to bake, for example, 3-6 rolls.

Continuing the topic of heating the spiral. Conduct such a test - include a blank email. the frying pan into the network, or rather just its lid, after putting, for example, the gas of the stove on the grate (so as not to burn anything) and after a maximum of 15 minutes. drip a few drops of cold water onto the lid (let me remind you that the time for heating the air inside the pan to 180 degrees indicated in the technical specification is no more than 15 minutes). If email the pan (lid) has reached the desired temperature - drops of water in small balls will bounce off the lid. If a drop of water is large, then it will crumble into several small ones. My email a frying pan that was 83 years old at the beginning of operation (in the 80s) passed this test and already on the 8th-10th min. the drops bounced off her with a hiss. And in recent years, this happens at the 5th-8th minute, that is, the heating is faster and stronger (since I repaired the burnt-out spiral several times and it was shortened at the same time). These are notes from my observations.

[Svetta]

Svetta, if I were you, I would not start by shortening the spiral, because earlier you wrote that the top of the pies was very tanned. True, if the pies were baked after the opening. warming up el. pans (10 minutes) for 50-60 minutes, then this is a lot. In this case, you can shorten the spiral by no more than 2 turns, and the duration of baking the pies in the first batch (with me) without preheating is no more than 40-45 minutes. And the second and subsequent batches are baked in 25-35 minutes. depending on the filling (for example, small chicken coops up to 35 min.). Taking into account the characteristics of each email. pans can be added by this time for 5 minutes. But in any case, before shortening the spiral, check the lid for heating (previously described.test with water drops), try to bake without foil (although I once baked a biscuit in an aluminum mold with foil, although it was still fried in the tabletop oven and the biscuit from the bottom) and be sure put email frying pan on the wire rack. Happy baking!

Girls! Has anyone tried to bake a simple classic biscuit in this oven? Today I again had a fiasco, can anyone help me with advice that I did wrong.
Baked here according to this recipe
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=198579.0
In the form of 24 cm, for 4 eggs. After 40 minutes, it began to smell like burnt, the biscuit seemed to be ready, the match was dry. She turned everything off, the biscuit dropped to its original state. Baked, but impossibly low.
I tried out a new kneader, before that I always whipped everything with a simple hand mixer. So maybe I interrupted my biscuit in the kneader and this was the reason for the failure?
Next, I did everything exactly according to the recipe, beat it with a hand mixer and baked it in the oven. Everything worked out great! That is, it's not about the recipe ...
Or maybe this stove is not suitable for THIS recipe, because even in the winter I baked a simple classic biscuit without a shape and everything turned out very well.

[Mirabel]

Mirabel,
Has the oven warmed up before baking? And then it will be like an omelet "got up and fell".

[Elena]

Elena, by the way, that's the right question. It is clear that when you bake muffins, you heat the biscuits in the oven. And how to warm it up, if, for example, a yeast cake, I'm afraid of getting burned when I need to sculpt it, what to do and can only the lid be warmed up? Is it unsafe?

[Mirabel]

Mirabel, my mother-in-law also bakes in the forms in a miracle, the cakes are low.I still respect biscuits from a pressure cooker more - lush, tall. In a miracle, yeast baking is perfect

[mur_myau]

mur_myau, Nope, did not warm up: girl_red: for some reason I thought that the Miracle oven should not be heated. This is probably the whole problem.

[Mirabel]

Mirabel, the mother-in-law generally heats the lower part on gas, everything is fine, so you can

[Aygul]

Aygul, Thank you. I understood everything and I will take note of it.

[Sindi]

Girls, the instructions even say that if necessary, warm up for about 10 minutes, that is, if we put the product right away, this time can be attributed to warming up.

Sindi, for yeast, you can turn it on for a couple of minutes, then the lid will slightly heat up and the rise of the dough goes better and the dough does not deteriorate.

Ligra, can I put the lid on the stand and warm it up for a couple of minutes? And fill the bottom with dough, then put a heated lid on top?

Oh, girls, what did I do yesterday! The Bork electric kettle haunted me. As I saw ..... Missing. And then the advance fell unexpectedly on the card. Well, he burned my thigh, of course. I could not resist and bought it. Pretty boy!

I could not resist and bought

Congratulations, Len!

Pretty boy!

And show us !!!

Anyutka! I'll show you, but tomorrow! They don't let me at the computer, but I can't use the tablet!

Oh, Len, I'm looking at him too. Like. How do you like him live?

Larisa, as I saw him live, I disappeared. I'll be home alone tomorrow morning. I will take a picture and show it in full size. I just don't know what to take next to. But very handsome! Not huge. Very compact.

Ligra, can I put the lid on the stand and warm it up for a couple of minutes? And fill the bottom with dough, then put a heated lid on top?

You put the Miracle bowl on a stand, distribute the dough into the bowl, cover it with a lid and turn it on for a couple of minutes (you can check with your hand how it heats up), how you feel that you turn it off for more than 30-40 * C. Because if the heating is longer, the dough may not rise and dry out.

[Gulya]

Gulya, with the lid warming up everything is simple. First, in a cold bowl of email. put the pans (shape, sculpt directly in it) the pie. Cover the bowl with the pie with a napkin or towel and let it rest for about 20-30 minutes. In 10-15 minutes. before its end, turn on the heating of the pan lid. And what is especially important, the lid (without the bowl) should lie during heating only on a surface that can withstand temperatures above 100 degrees. I put the lid on the gas grate for heating. ovens. I had a case like when the baked goods were baked, I took off the lid, put it on the gas stove and, without letting it cool down to the end, put it on a table covered with texture, well, the texture melted and even burnt the wood under it. If I bake cheesecakes from shivers. I do not preheat the lid, only the first batch is baked for 15 minutes longer, and the next batch is baked faster (the lid is already warmed up). But this can be done with small products, and for large (pies, etc.) it is better to warm up the lid on a separate (heat-resistant) surface while molding and proofing in the bowl is done. By the way, after proofing, you must pay attention that the product (s) occupy the top half of the bowl in volume, otherwise the baked goods may not be baked (especially in pies with meat filling). And again I have a lot of unnecessary words, you can shorten it, but we understand everything differently, therefore, in detail.

[Ludmila]

Ludmila, Ligra, girls thank you very much, explained everything clearly !!! : rose: And then for fear of getting burned or melting the table, I immediately baked, without heating. Everything worked out well, but the first batch takes longer to bake.

[Lyudmila, Gulya]

Lyudmila, Gulya, and the point is to specially heat the lid? It is easier to turn on the heating time during proofing and turn on the Miracle in order to guide it. (so as not to run around with a hot lid and not get burned)

so as not to run with a hot lid and not get burned

Here, too, I am very afraid of this, and knowing that many people start yeast baking in a cold oven, I do the same.

Larissa, as I saw him live, I disappeared. I'll be home alone tomorrow morning. I will take a picture and show it in full size. I just don't know what to take next to. But very handsome! Not huge. Very compact.

Did you buy it? Well, mother, could not resist. And I walk around ... I look and do not insert
Come on, tell me, maybe I'll buy it.

Lyudmila, Gulya, what's the point of specially heating the lid? It is easier to turn on the heating time during the proofing and turn on the Miracle in order to guide it. (so as not to run with a hot lid and not get burned

I just think about cooking meat dishes, casseroles, after all, we preheat the oven, probably it will work out faster with a heated lid ...

In 80-90% of cases when baking, I do not preheat the lid. And when I warm it up (after all, something is affected once they write in the instructions for both the electric frying pan and the oven, etc.), then I put the lid on the gas grate. plates to one of the corners. After heating the lid, I put the bowl with the pastries on a free corner diagonally, lift the lid and cover the bowl, move it to the center of the wire rack and bake the pastries. I certainly have an email stand. frying pans and for a long time I used it while putting email. frying pan with a stand on the table, but in this case, reach for el. the outlet was on. And I think the preheating of such a technique can only affect the quality of baked goods, but not the quality of meat and other culinary dishes. I like to cook potatoes with meat in it, with garlic, mayonnaise and sprinkles. cheese, as well as fish fillet + onions with mayonnaise and cheese, and in this case I do not warm up the e-mail. frying pan.

[Ludmila]

Ludmila, Thank you!

[Mirabel]

Mirabel, in the case of baking a biscuit, it is just important to put in a preheated email. a frying pan (or other similar technique). I'm for baking a biscuit in e-mail. pan (although there are other baking techniques), preheat it with an empty bowl, spread the biscuit dough in a silicone mold, put it in the bowl. cover and bake.

Did you buy it? Well, mother, could not resist. And I walk around ... I look and do not insert
Come on, tell me, maybe I'll buy it.

Tanya, I bought it. I need to be treated already. Even my Sanya didn’t say anything. He was silent. I took the photos, I'll show you for a minute. Yesterday cheburechkas were fried in it, beauty. You can also do without it, But you yourself know when the reins fall under the tail ...

Tanya, I bought it. I need to be treated already. Even my Sanya didn’t say anything. He was silent. I took the photos, I'll show you for a minute. Yesterday cheburechkas were fried in it, beauty. You can also do without it, But you yourself know when the reins fall under the tail ...

Give me the pictures, now I'll go to the clinic, I'll look at him.

Give me the pictures, now I'll go to the clinic, I'll look at him.

Look, but I took him from the window, let's better come to visit me after the hospital, I'm home. At the same time you will see.

Look, but I took him from the window, let's better come to visit me after the hospital, I'm home. At the same time you will see.

She took the last one. Well, great, withdrawal is canceled.
the pan is removed from the stand?

She took the last one. Well, great, withdrawal is canceled.
the pan is removed from the stand?

So you can buy it in another place, especially since the price for Bori is more than adequate. Yes, the saucepan is removable and all parts can be washed in the dishwasher except the thermostat. Well, will you come to visit? Do you think the biscuit will work?

[Catwoman]

Catwoman, Elena, congratulations to the beautiful aggregate. Heating from below?

[Ligra]

Ligra, yes, heating from below and heats up very quickly.

[Catwoman]

Catwoman, show photos of something cooked? Really curious

[Anastasenok]

Anastasenok, so I only managed to cook pasties in it yesterday. now I sit and think what to cook more.

[Gulya]

Gulya, when roasting meat, 10 min. warming up with the product, I think it will not be critical.
Lyudmila, Gulya, if you need to preheat the Miracle, it is really convenient to use additional forms (casseroles, biscuits, etc., and the saucepan remains clean).

[Catwoman]

Catwoman, bakes evenly? No traces like from ten?

Well, on pasties it was not visible, but I do not know how he would behave on baking. I want to try a biscuit, but I really don't know at what temperature to bake it ...? The scale starts at 90 degrees.

I would have a biscuit in the form of baked at 160 degrees .. or as in a multicooker at 120 in a bowl

I would have a biscuit in the form of baked at 160 degrees .. or as in a multicooker at 120 in a bowl

noee 160 a lot
Flax, bakes on the principle of a biscuit in a saucepan on the stove, no more than 120, even I would set 110-115 degrees and cover with a damp cloth or towel and only then close the lid tightly, bake for at least 60 minutes, do not open the lid in the process.
I'm just afraid if you set the temperature more, the bottom will burn. Nooooo ... everything needs to be tried.

At 160, I baked in a cartoon. But with the form. Without a form it will burn of course

At 160, I baked in a cartoon. But with the form. Without a form it will burn of course

I agree with the form

Some new Sakura 7710 appeared in the idea74.
I ordered to see it, I will buy it out if not terrible and the quality is not a turd.
🔗

Here, too, I am very afraid of this, and knowing that many people start yeast baking in a cold oven, I do the same.

and I always warm up the pan a little before laying the bread buns,
I just don't turn on Chudushka for a long time, I don't even wait for it to get very hot (the lid first heats up well from the inside, and only then the heat goes to the top of the lid and the lower pan), the lid should be barely warm from above.
And my buns melt wonderfully in the warmth, without drafts! I'm so very happy! The bread is always lush!
I don't run around the kitchen with the lid, I just put it on the corner of the sink while laying the buns (I have it old, it seems cast iron).
I bake in Miracle by placing it on the supplied triangular stand.