lira3003
Olga VB, Olga, how are you with your plans for the kitchen? Or is it not urgent?
I also want to do so so that later I do not regret and do not buy or redo the upper cabinets.
And I don't want too much, and I still remember "a lot - not a little and a lot - it doesn't happen!"
Girls, I can't cope without you alone without jambs... Therefore, help with advice, please
Here's another caveat, what is the optimal shelf height? It is clear that we are all different, but still ...
The designer put two shelves in the top meter-long cabinet for me. Roughly speaking, it is 31-32cm. Why does it seem to me that it is high? Will you then have to add something to something or buy additional shelves? I want to ask him to add one shelf to two out of five cabinets.
Here's what we signed. I'm talking about a closet with pipes and a side.
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Yarik
lira3003, Rita, 31-32 cm is normal, it is not worth doing less, it will be inconvenient to get it, we ourselves finished the extra. shelves, one of them is 28 cm, worse than 32 cm. That's my opinion.
Bijou
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It would have pissed me off too if I had to remove a stack of small plates each time and only then get a deep one. So I fully support your husband
I don’t understand .. And what prevents to keep separately a stack of deep, shallow, dessert and other garbage? I only have 20 small glass bowls (if all of them are suddenly collected in one place). They stand in two piles, without looking I take any desired plate (there are 15 dessert pieces, the rest are much more) or a salad bowl (and in the corner there are plastic salad bowls, we use under the garbage from nuts / seeds or under wet fruits).

What takes up a single shelf in a wall cabinet will creep into two full-fledged dryers, if it is smeared with an even layer on them.)) Well, how much extra space should you have ?? I have a kitchenette of only 14 squares and I miss them terribly.
lira3003
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I don’t understand .. And what prevents to keep separately a stack of deep, shallow, dessert and other garbage?
Bijou, Lena, so I have a kitchen now - one name! Four pedestals 60 cm each, all bottom. And the old apartment had a minimum kitchen. 60-50-40 cm cabinets and top are the same.
Wiki
I had 35 cm in the dryer - 18 plates fit. The daughter did not want a dryer at all and she has just stacks of plates. But like Bijou - separate. It's comfortable. And if different in one pile - then no. I have something in the wall and each time I take off one shot, then I take a plate, then I put that shot back. And if you fish out, then they warp, look and fly out. It's not too bad for the plates, but once my metal vase slipped out and I stood and watched as it smoothly flies into the largest TV in the house, only recently bought for a considerable price ... But it miraculously flew a few centimeters from the screen. Now I'm neat around TVs
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In my vestibule there is a drawer unit, there are just shelves inside. I use it for everything that I bought in stock. Vegetable oil, for example, flour, sugar, dried fruits, etc.
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I took out flowers for the summer
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lira3003
Quote: Wiki
she smoothly flies into the largest TV in the house, only recently bought for a considerable price ... But she miraculously flew a few centimeters from the screen. Now I'm neat around TVs
ufff, while I was reading my soul ran into my heels ...
Posh fat women
Wiki
Yeah - uff. My vase is so heavy, Indian chased, with sharp edges. if I got on the TV, then it’s as if a kirdyk would come to him. But luckily for me, she fell on a soft place - on the shaggy carpet.
I have 15 such fat women ... left. There were probably about twenty




Yarik, so wardrobes of any size are now made.There is no standard as such. Only it will not be possible to make a solid one if the size does not fit into the chipboard sheet, well, the size of the saw is limited. Then they make up of the two.
lira3003
Quote: Wiki
so sliding wardrobes are now doing any size. There is no standard as such.
Yeah, only furniture makers will hear the sweet word non-standard immediately raise the price tag
Wiki
We have inexpensive, but it is from the manufacturer. The curbstone, which in the photo is Ш1200, В1000 Г400, inside the middle, shelves and one drawer costs 4200.

lira3003
Wiki, what are these prices? Do you do furniture yourself ???
Yarik
Wiki, I need around the doorway, from two sides, to the ceiling, connected by mezzanines on top. I don't think it will be cheap.
Wiki
Well, in theory, nothing complicated. Two wardrobes plus a mezzanine. If ordinary Ramir, then it should not be so expensive. Moreover, if with mezzanines, then the height should definitely pass both along the saw and along the sheet.

We have a lot of furniture manufacturers in our region, I can walk to the nearest one. Of course, the prices are very affordable.
Strictly speaking, prices for sliding-door wardrobes are unreasonably high. This is a very simple product to manufacture.
lira3003
Quote: Wiki
We have a lot of furniture manufacturers in our region, I can walk to the nearest one. Of course, the prices are very affordable.
People are lucky!
Wiki
Yeah, we buy furniture at the price of your pans
Anna67
We have more. A sideboard table with a shelf and a sliding swivel table top with grooves for two basins and a large sideboard. The buffet is still standing. And I miss the curbstone ...
Bijou
Quote: Wiki
her plates are just stacks. But like Bijou - separate. It's comfortable.
What else did I think ... I just have non-standard cabinets. The width is more than thirty. 34 or 35 like. And the length .. 74 I said, huh? Therefore, the cymbals are scattered in a zigzag pattern and they fit in there.

But if the box was 30x60, I would be so comfortable there. Maybe legs grow from there, if so many people suffer from storage in dryers? And I can't understand everything, why I run it like that ...

But I still never liked to store dishes in dryers - you put a new one, it drips onto the dry one, then stains ... No, no, no matter what drawers I have, but dry - in place!
Wiki
I have only plates in the dryer, and they are always dry after the dishwasher. Actually, for me, this is not a dryer for its intended purpose, but simply the ability to put flat plates vertically. It's so convenient for me to get them and put them on.
lira3003
Quote: Bijou
The width is more than thirty. 34 or 35 like. And the length .. 74 I said, huh?
That's where the truth is! Again a question in depth ... I will definitely try to enlarge the designer!
Quote: Wiki
just the ability to put flat plates vertically.
This is how my husband wanted it, although he himself warms his own food every three months
Bijou
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I will definitely try the designer for an increase!
Nope. I also have a wider countertop. And you will beat your head. ((




Well, or try on at least. The most effective is the model. You take a cardboard box and build the size you want. That is, the difference between the front of the drawer (box) and the edge of the countertop. Take into account the pen, if any. You attach it in real conditions to the desired height. You simulate a hectic workplace. You draw conclusions.
lira3003
Quote: Bijou
I also have a wider countertop. And you will beat your head. ((
It seems to me that I will not live to see the new kitchen soon they will be handed over
Yesterday I ordered a cooker hood, and I bought it in this shop. They accepted, confirmed, dropped the SMS with the order number and called back that she was waiting for me ... and today they call and declare that she is married and there is no other
In fact, the countertop can be ordered wider, without postforming .., I don't know if I need it, again it is more expensive
Bijou
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In fact, the countertop can be ordered wider, without postforming .., I don't know if I need it, again it is more expensive
Everything is more expensive there. And we will have to carefully make sure that the metaboxes also become larger.)) We were just lucky with the tabletop - just at that time people ordered a narrow one, so the wide canvas was cut off-center and usedaboutWe got the most part for the same money.))
Olya2017
Quote: lira3003
This is how my husband wanted, although he himself warms his own food every three months
I thought that only I have one.
lira3003
Quote: Bijou
and we got most of it for the same money.)
Exactly lucky!
Olya2017, Olga,
And I want to write a review here about the Call Call. I know that this is not Otzovik, but still ..
The employee advised my husband, well, we went, since there is a salon near the house almost.
We went in, chose a facade, and my husband says to the designer, “just count us a kitchen with such facades, we know roughly the layout”. To which she replied: "If you buy, then I will count! And if not, then we sell furniture here, and do not count!" I haven’t been so shocked for a long time ... I must say that at that time there was no one but us, my husband and I and two designers ... The second, at this time, was hanging by the computer, after her partner's remark, she looked up and looked at us and again hung in silence. How do they (these ladies) work with such an attitude towards people ??? In other salons, this was not close.
Olya2017
Quote: lira3003
How do they (these ladies) work with such an attitude towards people ??? In other salons, this was not close.
Yeah! Service is excellent!
And I plan to order my MAAAlenky kitchen in Ikea. There is no desire to run around the salons. And there you can make an online project yourself, and you can run into a designer successfully, which, of course, also does not always happen.
Belka13
lira3003, Rita, it all depends on the person. I have a kitchen Call, when I ordered, there was no such attitude even close, although there was still no crisis, the kitchens were ordered quite actively.
Tanya-Fanya
Quote: lira3003
How do they (these ladies) work with such an attitude towards people ??? In other salons, this was not close.

It was God himself who took you away!
Wiki
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"If you buy, I will count! And if not, then we sell furniture here, not count!"

If the buyer's sketch, then usually answered: 10,000 per running meter, plus or minus. Because in fact, the whole day to draw, count only so that later with my finished sketch they went to other stores, it's a shame somehow
At first, things got worse, we went for free measurement. You come, spend half a day with a person in an apartment (if there is a renovation, then there is nothing to even sit on, and there may not be a toilet bowl either) and as a result "nuuu ... we will think ..." And before leaving: "well, you sketch something leave us ... "
Then they became smarter and took money for measuring, if a person ordered furniture, then this amount was deducted from the cost of the furniture. If I didn’t order it, I didn’t come back. And immediately those wishing to invite for metering decreased by 90%
Belka13
Wiki, so I want to know at least the approximate cost. Maybe 100, maybe 200 thousand. There is a difference.
lira3003
Quote: Olya2017
I plan to order my MAAAlenky cuisine in Ikea.
Well, let it be small, the main thing is to plan everything correctly!
Belka13, Olga, we are also in shock, because we need to interest the client, and not turn it off!
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It was God himself who took you away!
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so that later with my finished sketch they went to other stores, it's a shame somehow
So after all, they could come to you, with the ready.
And we didn't even call the measurer for free until we decided on the salon.
Quote: Belka13
I want to know at least the approximate cost. Maybe 100, maybe 200 thousand. There is a difference.
Here! This is what we needed! I did not want to miscalculate, after all, the purchase is very expensive!





Tanya-Fanya, Tatyana, I lost you ... The girls sometimes run in, but I don't see you
Wiki
Quote: Belka13

Wiki, so I want to know at least the approximate cost.

They spoke approximately. In addition, the section contained samples of various modifications with a price. It is immediately clear that how much.
For example, there is a three-meter mark on it - 20 thousand, in the next department there is also a three-meter mark - and there is already 80 thousand.
They ask: what's the difference? we answer: ours is with MDF facades, and there is natural wood or imported plastic and so on. They explained everything. But many just want to draw, count, write a price and give them a sketch. This is no longer just a consultation that sellers are obliged to give.
In one store I saw a price tag - 500 thousand, immediately left there. Well, what to count if I never buy a kitchen even with a super-discount for 400 thousand?
Belka13
I ordered a kitchen set twice. The first time, as a result, it came out twice as expensive as in the preliminary calculation, the second time - one and a half. Here is another point - managers lure with supposedly acceptable prices, and then wind up. Although I immediately warned that I would have bottle holders, good fittings, etc., etc. And it seems inconvenient to refuse.
lira3003
Quote: Belka13
And it seems to be inconvenient to refuse.
And I also sometimes get lost ... But my husband did not hesitate to ask in the first salon, where we were told 225 thousand, why is it so expensive? I assembled the cabinets myself, I know where and how much the fittings are. She immediately changed something and voiced 185 !!!
Wiki
The point is that these preliminary calculations are complete nonsense. Sometimes sellers are cunning, sometimes buyers are to blame. First: nuuu ... me inexpensive, simpler. You will count. And then: I would like it a little wider, a table top without joints, a plinth in the color of the facades, not the body, the handles are like that ...
In my own time, the table came out almost twice as expensive due to the fact that the angle is straight and I did not want a joint.
Let's say the angle is 1600x100. Such a rectangle is rolled up with plastic, then the desired corner is cut and edged. A piece cut 1000x400 - for discard, but I pay for it.
Sometimes buyers say: well, bring this piece to us, we can adapt it to the dacha ... as they imagine, I do not understand. Who in the factory will collect and pack the cuttings for me?
Gata
Wiki, nothing strange, with us, if they take for the whole canvas, but put a piece only, they easily give away the leftovers. Not everyone needs them. We, when ordered to parents, took away. The most interesting thing is that these leftovers can be bought at the factory. We took a piece of the table for 1.6. But there were all sorts.
Tanya-Fanya
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Tanya-Fanya, I lost you ... The girls sometimes run in, but I don't see you
I am here, standing on the sidelines and waiting for When Rituyla calms down and finally shows her a beautiful new kitchen.
lira3003
Quote: Tanya-Fanya
I am here, standing on the sidelines and waiting for When Rituyla calms down and finally shows her a beautiful new kitchen.
So I will calm down only when I already have it
In the meantime, the height of the cabinets, the height of the shelves, then the depth ... What's that, here I want to change the height of the facades a little. That's why I need a box for spoons-forks with a front 200 under cooking?
Tomorrow we are going to the designer, I want how they can get 170 ...
Wiki
Quote: Gata

... give away leftovers easily. Not everyone needs them.
If a small workshop is like a studio, then it is possible. I write about my experience, we have large factories, and there ... well, in short, no one will collect these pieces.
In addition, I personally have not seen manufacturers who would do everything themselves, we certainly do not have such. That is, many people order a table on the side. And again, orders are taken there according to sizes without cut off residues. At the factory, furniture is packed in such a way that each package has its own number and the storekeeper releases it according to the shipping list: the number is such and such, there are so many packages.
In general, I cannot imagine that a factory would collect pieces for me and who would I ask for it (I have been selling furniture for more than 10 years, by the way)
Wit
There are enough pieces of any size and size in the factory. And in order to cut out the piece you need, they will find a suitable residue. Fortunately, there are plenty of leftovers that leave them almost the size of the countertop. And you will pay as for a full-size cooker.
Some fat kitchens write: "A tabletop as a gift!" Swoop in people! I kept thinking, where did such generosity come from? Then they explained to me where. And you have confirmed that this is true. I demanded to return to me not only the scraps of the table top, but also the wall panels. Not the slightest objection! And already everything is in business, it came in handy.
Wiki
No one will even look for it, I assure you. Conveyor. The machines shove, the scraps-leftovers are all at once in a nearby box, large scraps for ease of loading are immediately sawn on the saw, the loaders carry the boxes into the cart.The scrap carts are removed by a tractor.
Wit, I remind you, I'm talking about an enterprise that produces 150-200 kitchens a week (and this is not the most enterprise, but rather so-so)
Tanya-Fanya
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I want to slightly change the height of the facades. That's why I need a box for spoons-forks with a front 200 under cooking?
Tomorrow we are going to the designer, I want how they can get 170 ...

Do you mean the depth of the box?
Olga VB
Quote: lira3003
That's why I need a box for spoons-forks with a front 200 under cooking?
Right! - there is no need!
Do it for 30 and in tandem, then there are spoons, forks, and ladles, mittens will fit, and you will be happy!
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By the way, think about the IKEA buildings. You can buy them separately with quite a decent filling, only some places will need to be additionally processed to last longer, but your rugged husband will do this in the evening, and the facades have already been ordered elsewhere.
Excuses about unsuitable dimensions are not accepted:
I have a top extension from IKEA. There, all the lockers are 40 cm each, and there should be 50 cm above the hood. There was no such thing in the IKEA line, and the nearest size was 60cm, and they bought it.
Calmly they sawed off the excess themselves (after all, everything is bought in a disassembled state in the form of planks), crushed, collected, hung ...
And who would guess now that there was a non-standard and a self-made alteration?
True, we have a good electric jigsaw. But its price in comparison with the possible savings on everything else seems to you to be zero.
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And you can not buy everything at once. Also, at any time, you can replace something or simply buy in addition, and with IKEA this number goes well.
In addition, it is useful to live for a while without facades at all, in order to make sure that everything has been thought out correctly and, if necessary, change something for a completely cool deny. And if the testing goes well, then order the doors for this configuration.
What style and color is your kitchen supposed to be?
lira3003
Quote: Tanya-Fania
Do you mean the depth of the box?
No, I'm talking about height Furniture for kitchen
Look here, where 200.
Olga VB, Olga, at the expense of Ikea. In general, I tried to persuade my husband for a long time, but he is adamant. They have a tight choice of facades ... I don't want a dark kitchen, for me it's horror. At work there was dark furniture, which had to be rubbed in the morning and evening, every day !!! And her husband is categorically against White. He was visiting where the white kitchen was. Therefore, Ikea is not our option.
Although, we now have his friend's circular, but something like that.
Quote: Olga VB
it is useful to live for a while without facades at all
And I live for the second year without cabinets and facades, practically. Already zadolbali every time for some kitchen oddity to go to another room and look there in the boxes
I hope that tomorrow we will settle all the little things and send the kitchen to work
Twig
For spoons-forks as in the photo Olga VB, very uncomfortable!!!
It’s like that for my mother. Better two separate drawers! The same amount of fittings and guides, you won't win at the price.
Tanya-Fanya
Quote: lira3003
tomorrow we will settle all the little things and send the kitchen to work

🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
alba et atra
Quote: lira3003

And her husband is categorically against White. He was visiting where the white kitchen was.
Rita, why does the white kitchen scare your spouse so much?
Nothing really terrible ...

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Yarik
My husband was also categorically against the white kitchen, I wanted a white one with a tree, he was not in any, as a result, we have the bottom under a tree, the top is blue)))
gawala
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My husband was also categorically against the white kitchen,
We, too .. Was .. Now I really like everything. White.
Bijou
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Quote: gawala
We, too .. Was .. Now I really like everything. White.
Show me, eh? There are very few white kitchens that I really like ... Am I missing something?
gawala
Quote: Bijou
There are very few white kitchens that I really like ... Am I missing something?
it's not the whole kitchen. I have a kitchen for 30kv. m. white is the whole food zone. everything was dark dark brown. I repainted everything white, bought a new white cabinet and nice maple-like rims and exactly the same table, one series.white windows, white nardines, curtains to match the wardrobe. in general, the view is completely different. but the battles were "without rules", the husband did not want to part with the old furniture. oak and very uncomfortable and dark colored lining.
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the kitchen itself, the cooking hour, repairs were done sometime in 2008, they bought a completely new kitchen. because the old one was about 30 years old and the father-in-law did it himself. in general, cabinet doors began to fall on your head ..
Bijou
gawala, mmm ... The first two pictures are just brilliant !! Especially the curtains are good on a light background. I like this style.

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