Bijou
Midnight lady, I didn't quite understand ... My (right-handed) wall was on the right and it was uncomfortable for me. The son (he is left-handed) has a wall / refrigerator on the left and he goes to wash the dishes in the kitchen on the floor below, but without walls.)))
That is, in both cases, the obstacle under workers elbow. And this us uncomfortable.
Wit
Mona1, was there a visit to the oven service center today?
Mona1
Wit, well, they were there yesterday, I told about their visit in the oven, go there, read it. Now I'm waiting for the store's verdict. They said - wait for the call.))
Wit
As far as I remember, you said that they looked, said they would report in the store and tomorrow they would come with an answer. After all, I answered that most likely they will lie and will pull the rubber. If you missed this post. I don't receive messages about the oven.
Stebovich
Quote: Olga VB

Valery, where can you read more about this thing? valuable is that it is mounted in the base, add. does not require space. But how does it cope with the function?

Olga, we don't have them on sale. There is a presentation in English. If you need write mail where to send.
Mona1
Wit, right now in the Temko oven I will write
lira3003
Quote: S-t
we don't have them on sale
Of course, I really liked this vacuum cleaner. But I just exhaled that we do not have them. You don't need to want

and my husband must endure his brain, what else is the outlet necessary ... under the cabinets ... We have a direct war for every outlet, the walls are concrete, so he took a puncher to break through them and uttered all sorts of unflattering words. And it's too late already, the wallpaper is glued.

Mona1
lira3003, Rita, you can generally connect to an extension cord, throw it behind furniture, and plug it into an outlet anywhere. And I have two of the same type as in the picture, all multicooker, AG, a meat grinder are constantly connected to it. And I don't pull it out of the socket, I just pressed the button I needed, worked it, and click back. Only at the same time, you cannot, of course, turn on everything, there is a limitation on the total power load. He lay on my tabletop, behind the equipment, so that all the cords could reach him. Now while it is being renovated, new sockets have been broken through, I don’t know yet where I will use it in the new kitchen
Furniture for kitchen
In Google pictures, if you type "a surge protector with separate switches", then a lot of different types and companies will come out, you can choose a suitable
lira3003
Mona1, Tanya, yes I have seen such already, Olya showed it for a long time. It's just that I don't like all these extension cords, filters ..
That is why I asked my husband not to bother with sockets .. In the rooms it seems like there is enough with a margin, but in the kitchen ...
But, thanks to my husband, I will most likely have to buy such a thing. I asked him and said that he would stick where necessary, but the load is up to 3.5 kW. And this is not enough for a harvester, mixer, meat grinder and princess, enough. Well, if you don't turn them on at the same time, then in general it's beauty ...
Midnight lady
Quote: Bijou

Midnight lady, I didn't quite understand ... My (right-handed) wall was on the right and it was uncomfortable for me. The son (he is left-handed) has a wall / refrigerator on the left and he goes to wash the dishes in the kitchen on the floor below, but without walls.)))
That is, in both cases, the obstacle under workers elbow. And this us uncomfortable.
I washed the dishes and wondered why you are so uncomfortable. I only thought of one option: maybe you have a mixer installed diagonally to the sink bowl? Then the tap is directed just towards the wall and this causes pushing back to the wall when washing, well, and an elbow strike.

Here's how


I'll put it under the spoiler, just in case, I know that this forum has strange requirements for links and photos.
Furniture for kitchen

SvetaI
Quote: Midnight lady
I washed the dishes and wondered why you are so uncomfortable.
I, frankly, also do not understand what the inconvenience is. I always had sinks against the wall and a tap diagonally, like in the picture from Midnight lady... The wall does not bother me at all.

even helps - when you get very tired - you can lean against


For me, the priority is the work area - the space between the stove and the sink, where the main kitchen activities take place. But even in my large kitchen, I pushed the sink into the corner, why do I need it "in the middle of the road"?
Wit
Quote: lira3003
But thanks to her husband
Well done husband! Not with a rolling pin he should be threatened, but with something tasty to feed. Tanya suggested the best option. I installed the same in the kitchen. You can stick it anywhere you want. I "temporarily" (I was too lazy to drill a tile) stuck it on double-sided tape. And now I can't tear it off. Yes, I did not try too hard, since it stands firmly, then let it stand. Why else should you make holes in the tiles.
Olga VB
Quote: Midnight lady
Here's how
Here is a double bowl, moreover, the main one is on the left, i.e. a considerable distance to the wall. And if there is only one bowl and in the very corner close to the wall, then this is very inconvenient.
For example, I have a sink in the corner near the wall, but there is still a wing about 30cm to the wall. So even these 30cm are not enough for me, tk. we do a lot with my husband in 4 hands, and both of us are not very thin.
In addition, we have a protrusion of the air duct and a dining table behind our back, i.e. you can retreat from the sink only in one direction, to the left, butewhere back and nowhere to the right.
I just can't say it's convenient.
Therefore, if someone needs to get out of this corner, then both have to go to the middle of the kitchen. It's good at least that the kitchen is small (8.5 sq. M.), And the middle is only 3 steps from the corner

Midnight lady
Olga VB, behind me (half a meter from the sink) there is a washing machine and you can only leave the sink to the left. I imagined what it would be like if the sink broke the work surface, having lost the right corner ... No, I'm not ready. But everyone does as he pleases, it is useless to argue.
And in the wing, like yours (to the right of the sink bowl), I don't understand the point at all. On the wing, I butcher fish and meat to wash it off properly. How do you do it on that wing against the wall? Right there, like an elbow against the wall, or a right hand with a knife above the floor and everything drips off of it. Such happiness could have brought me down, I found out in time and changed the sink.
lira3003
Quote: Wit
You should not threaten him with a rolling pin, but feed him something tasty
So you have to feed sweets
It's just that if he immediately listened to my request to remove the sockets above the work surface, now his head would not hurt about additional

measures

filters ...
But, it was easier for him to stick 6 sockets, on the sides of the cooking. 3 on each side ... and there is a cabinet for only 1200 minus a plate of 600. That is, there are 3 sockets over a 30cm surface .. And over a 3-meter tabletop - none... Only at the end of the wall, after the countertop there are 3 sockets, of which 1 is for the TV.
Olga VB
Gyyyy, I told my husband that on the forum "one girl" wrote that my husband had planned the kitchen without her and ordered the kitchen himself. headset.
The husband just shrugged his shoulders:
- suicide?
celfh
Quote: Olga VB
The husband just shrugged his shoulders:
- suicide?
Olga, your husband is absolutely right, I know a family where such actions of her husband led to a divorce
Wit
It's about me? At first, in the whole case, we had to dodge the horrible things flying into the head. Good physical fitness and the knowledge that it was more difficult for Brad Pete from flying knives thrown by Angie in his head saved him.
For that now I am "You are so smart! How beautiful!" And not so expensive for a U-shaped kitchen
Bijou
Quote: SvetaI
I, frankly, also do not understand what the inconvenience is. I always had sinks against the wall and a diagonal faucet, like in the picture from Midnight lady. The wall does not bother me at all.
For me, the priority is the work area - the space between the stove and the sink, where the main kitchen activities take place. But even in my large kitchen, I pushed the sink into the corner, why do I need it "in the middle of the road"?
Well, yes, all people are different.)) But sometimes, in order to really make a choice and move away from their ossified cliches "I always do this", you have to consciously make an effort on yourself and even lose in productivity and convenience, in order to then suddenly find out something new is more convenient!) (for example, from fresh, - to learn to cut with a chef's knife)
We tried the sink in the corner and the sink slightly off the center of the long countertop was more comfortable.

I do not need a solid space on a table top two meters long. And visually such a long "counter" hurts my eyes. It turned out to be just convenient for me to fence off the edge above one cabinet with a sink to accommodate more or less permanently resident appliances such as a kettle-combine-blender-multicooker. They stand in a corner by the pencil case and do not make an eyesore on the work area, which is cleaned and the kitchen looks clean. I really do not like kitchen gadgets smeared with an even layer, and there is nowhere to hide, or it leads to non-use.

For some reason washing (and the trash can underneath, if any) most visited place in the kitchen... Therefore, it should be easily accessible even for several people at the same time who stomped on it from different directions. So here I have complete unity with Olga VB.

Now in my yard the countertop is very short and the sink is forced to edge, closer to the sink. There is no wall, there is even a palm-wide piece of tabletop. And yes, I'm sooo uncomfortable that I can't work on both sides of the sink

Although, if necessary, you can get used to everything, of course.))
Kara
Quote: celfh
Olga, your husband is absolutely right, I know a family where such actions of her husband led to a divorce
The kitchen should (in the sense, has the right) to be planned by the one who will "live" there (in the sense of spending most of the time). If in the family it is mainly the husband who cooks, then let him plan and order whatever his heart desires. And if a wife, then, dear, you have a drawing, this is the color, and this is the size, and this is where I want sockets. And let him try to argue with the cho-thread, otherwise I'll go to redesign his garage, he will know
Wit
Quote: Kara
otherwise I'll go redesign his garage, he'll know
My wife gave a couple of tips for designing a garage. And, by the way, they are not quite bad ones. I embodied it and I do not regret it. Wives are different. And I also love to cook. And it’s comfortable to work there. And I took into account all her wishes!

I would definitely not let you into the garage.
Kara
Quote: Wit
I would definitely not let you into the garage.

Cool, you got to do with it? I would not go to your garage

Quote: Wit
It's about me?

Why are you taking everything personally? We seem to be discussing the layout of Rita's kitchen

Quote: Wit
And I also love to cook.

Commendable! My husband also loves to cook. And even "not badly" Only after it is necessary to call the cleaning team
lira3003
Quote: celfh
The husband just shrugged his shoulders:
- suicide?
Olga, your husband is absolutely right, I know a family where such actions of her husband led to a divorce
Apparently, this was the last straw in the relationship ... I'm not so critical, so we are just looking for a compromise that would suit both
Didn't remove the sockets? - Then glue the filter.
Don't like the kitchen under the ceiling? - Well, it will be 9-10cm from the ceiling. This is if you do not hang at 56cm from the table top.
Doesn't want a column with LH and microwave? -Okay, let there be a curbstone, but LH at chest level and microwave from above.
Are tandemboxes expensive? - With the economy, we will buy a table-top-side-apron-handles in the fittings.
Worried about a sink made of artificial stone? -I call his close friend, he convinces her husband that everything is ok.
Didn't want a wallpaper with flowers? Okay, I just drag him to Leroy, and there he is convinced that they are very beautiful! Now he sits in the kitchen and says, "What beautiful wallpapers we have!" But there are no flowers there, a completely different pattern ...
Wit, Vitalymaybe show us your kitchen? It is very interesting to see if I can find something interesting for myself.
Quote: Kara
I'll go redesign his garage, he'll know
Ira, that's all the salt ... We don't have a garage, he has nowhere to turn around !!! Therefore, apparently, he comes off in the kitchen
Kara
Quote: lira3003
We don't have a garage, he has nowhere to turn around !!! Therefore, apparently, he comes off in the kitchen
Ehhh, and don't threaten
lira3003
Quote: Kara
I would not go to your garage
I would also
Quote: Kara
My husband also loves to cook. And even "not badly" Only after it is necessary to call the cleaning team
My one also managed without me, but now he does not know which side to approach the tile from. Only when he drives his drink, then he remembers ...




Quote: Kara
Ehhh, and don't threaten
Kalyusya
For those who have a small kitchen, and money has nowhere to go for "to dream"

Furniture for kitchen
Kara
Is this structure spinning?
Kalyusya
Irin, apparently, is spinning.
Olga VB
Quote: Kara

Is this structure spinning?
It looks like it is also closing. That is, if the studio space, then I prepared it, covered it up, and the room is no longer a kitchen, but a living room
Kara
Olya, that's exactly what I thought. A studio for young people is a great option !!
Quote: Kalyusya
and money has nowhere to go
And how much has nowhere to do with it?




Quote: Kalyusya
most likely - spinning.
But what about the plumbing and sewerage connections to the PM?
Kalyusya
Quote: Kara
And how much has nowhere to do with it?
yes hto will tell you the truth?
And I thought about water too. And there is a stove, a sink, and a PMM ...

Or maybe it's just the fantasy of furniture designers?
Wit
Quote: lira3003
I'm not that critical, so we're just looking for a compromise that would suit both
Then I read through the text, I thought that my wife was writing. Okay, I like the old one, I'm used to it, let's dream up. These are only drawings in three projections. When a thread is retired, you suddenly want a new one. Before retirement, after all, ogogoooo, they also threaten to raise. And then suddenly I wanted to! The horror of the renovation, cooking on tiles on boxes, eating in the room ... It turns out that this was what scared her, and she wanted the kitchen.
I would show you the garage, Rita.
lira3003
Quote: Wit
It turns out that this was what scared her,
Ooo, I'm so with fishing! As I think, almost a day is expensive, then the arrangement of the place, cooking on a stove or a fire, mosquitoes, etc., etc. ... But I just want to relax
Quote: Wit
I would show you the garage, Rita.
Suddenly....
Gata
I think the water is in the center and this is not a moving part, but the kitchen itself is definitely spinning because I saw a more complete presentation and showed what was there and how in detail, but I don’t remember the details about water.
lira3003
I have a question again ...
Warm floor in the kitchen ...
I know for sure that I need it. I don't like walking in slippers, my legs get tired quickly. Today, the husband asked the question: on what area to lay? I don’t know
Web width 1m. The width of the kitchen is 3.4 m. Minus 60 (lower cabinets), minus 60 sofa. Remains 2.2m. There will be a table 80cm wide. The question is rather this: do you need a warm floor under the table? Or is it enough just along the lower cabinets?
Who has a warm floor in the kitchen? What do you advise
I myself am inclined to the option with a completely covered warm floor ... the husband asks "is there any sense"?
Cvetaal
Rita, I don't have a warm floor under the kitchen furniture and along the walls at a distance of about 30 or 40 cm
Ksarochka
Quote: lira3003
Who has a warm floor in the kitchen? What do you advise
I myself am inclined to the option with a completely covered warm floor ... the husband asks "is there any sense"?
Do you keep the legs under the table when you sit at the table? I have a warm floor in my kitchen on the entire free surface, that is, there is no warm floor only where there are cabinets.
Wit
Quote: Ksarochka
that is, there is no warm floor only where there are cabinets.
And probably under the battery. Yes, Helen?
lira3003
Quote: Cvetaal
there is no warm floor under the kitchen furniture and along the walls at a distance of about 30 or 40 cm
Well, yes, and I wrote minus 60 and minus 60, this is for furniture and a sofa. This means that the rest of the area should be insulated
Quote: Ksarochka
Do you keep the legs under the table when you sit at the table?
The son also asked
Quote: Wit
And probably under the battery. Yes, Helen?
Oh, and it could be there, but walking under the battery is not convenient
SvetaI
lira3003, Rita, maybe I will confuse you, but somehow we did not become friends with the warm floor in the kitchen. I have a large kitchen combined with a living room, in the kitchen there is a warm floor throughout the entire area, except, of course, places under the cabinets.
So, if you turn on this floor, the house becomes very hot and stuffy. We have a generally warm apartment, and when the field is on, it's just a bath. I turn it on only if it gets colder in September and has not yet drowned it - several times in 13 years.And then, it's stuffy all the same, as if this floor was eating oxygen.
In general, look, if you insulate a large area, even if they do it with a regulator, otherwise you will suffocate.
lira3003
SvetaI, Svetochka, I understood you. I also need a warm floor at a time when there is no heating, and it is still / already cold outside. Well, like these days. In general, I'm not a frost, I also constantly ventilate, the apartment is end-face, but very warm. But the legs are not comfortable ...
Quote: SvetaI
let them at least do it with the regulator, otherwise you will suffocate.
And this is just a must! In the hallway and in the bathroom such
Ksarochka
Quote: Wit
probably under the battery
I did not get that? My battery does not heat the floor. It actually almost does not warm at all)) the warm floor lies almost close to the wall, where the window and the battery are (but there is a type of elevation and plinth, there are no depressions in the floor under the battery, rather it hangs in a niche) and where the table is. Only under the cabinets there is no refrigerator.
lira3003
Well, they brought me the kitchen. But since we bought the countertop and the wall panel separately and all the equipment is ours, the installers asked for extra. services 15000 !!! As a result, they installed only one panel. We should have hung the upper cabinets. And they made 2 drinks for the sink and the hob.
The husband and son connected the washing and cooking themselves. True, the DS is still on the floor and I don't know when it will be installed ...
And so, cooking in the new kitchen has become more spacious, more convenient. Although, I now have two. Cabinets from the old one fit by the window ....
Thanks everyone for the planning advice
Belka13
lira3003, Rita, Hurrah! Congratulations! Be patient a little more - everything will be settled, you will enjoy the new kitchen.
lira3003
Belka13, Olga, yeah, there is not much left .... I haven't chosen the hood yet
Tanya-Fanya
lira3003, aaaaaaa !!!! Urrraaaaa !!!!! Done !!!!!
Rituyla! Congratulations!!!!!

So, put the oven in place, as it turned out, half a second! You and I would have done it ourselves, only it is heavy. The bottom line is that the oven must be inserted into the cabinet, pushed in all the way and screwed one bolt on the right and left. FSE!

Belka13
Do not forget to connect to the network first
lira3003
Quote: Tanya-Fania
Congratulations!!!!!
Thank you lapulya !!!
And with LH there is a hitch because it will stand separately. First you need to hang the compartment door, then move the refrigerator from the corridor. Only then a curbstone with a DS. So I'm waiting for inspiration to come down to my husband ...
Yarik
lira3003, Rita, Congratulations! The main thing was the furniture, but hanging and putting in place, in principle, will not take long, especially since your husband and son are great! We are waiting for the report, how everything will be ready)))
lira3003
Quote: Yarik
Congratulations
Thank you
Quote: Yarik
We are waiting for the report, how everything will be ready)))
Okay, I'll show you a little later

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