Furniture for kitchen

Yes, they replaced it a long time ago.)))

[kolobashka]

kolobashka, I mean more convenient.
I don't have a lot of dishes and the dishwasher hasn't turned on for a hundred years, but these splashes still enrage.
But by the way, it really doesn't reach the wall, I was so worn out with the same tap that I put the sink to the very edge of the table. Still, there is something wrong with ergonomics. From the previous sink, my lower back hurt, I thought because it was far away and I had to bend forward. I made a conclusion for myself for the future that the sink in the bathroom should definitely not be above the washing machine, that I will not put the plinth, otherwise it is not convenient to stand close to it, but still something is missing for convenience.
All the same, the standard sizes are so standard that I cannot find a table in the office, all of the same height or not a table, but a desk. In the kitchen, at least the legs can be adjusted in height.

I always said that the crane should be turned exclusively with the lever inward.

Undoubtedly! And the lever on the tap must be UNDER the gander!
I did not track the moment when the collectors attached the tap to the sink
But I have already planned: when I buy a dishwasher, these same guys will come to install it, and then I will harness them to turn the tap!

Added Thursday, 17 Nov 2016 00:15

I completed the third tier with white shelves ...

Olga! how cool I especially like that you have this upper white tier slightly overhanging. All this gave visually volume and air! Thanks for the braggart!

Added Thursday, 17 Nov 2016 00:22

I also got spray from my hands and dishes from the classic ganders in all directions.

So I was tormented with a beautiful Italian tap and a very convenient German stainless steel sink. Splashes flew in all directions, and this despite the fact that we never have a strong pressure of water.
In the new kitchen, the designer strongly advised the Granula sink and the tap. She suited me in design, and all the other designer arguments seemed to me a common divorce. But now I am very grateful to that girl! The sink is very deep, and the spray doesn’t fly. The square shape of the small sink is very convenient and spacious for washing a 5 liter pot.

[Kivi]

Kivi, oh, how high the cabinets are above the table top!
And why is everything so uzyusenie, is it a designer delicacy?

I am a little confused by the depth, the countertop crawls out of the cabinets so much because it is so wide (distance from the wall to the edge of the countertop) or are the cabinets so shallow?

Added Thursday, 17 Nov 2016 00:25

in short ... svolosi at the factory. of the stated 60 cm depth
60 cm table top. 45 - bottom cabinet and 30 top

Tin !!!!! 30 top - wherever it went (I have 35 - perfectly huge plates get up in the dryer), but 45 - bottom - this is beyond!

I was also embarrassed that she was hanging so. On the one hand, the more overhangs, the more intact the facades, and on the other, I tried on my countertop and realized that my handles are horizontal railing - it turned out to be very inconvenient to open. So she pushed it back against the wall. But a lot is not enough, you can move the cabinet and cut the tabletop, it's worse when, like me, there is not enough depth to put the plinth normally.

In general, there is no need to rush here,

Anya, indeed, there is no need to rush. But if the ideas are almost ripe, then he can make himself a couple of variants, they can be saved directly in the Ikeevsky planner (they are stored there for a year). And when in Ikea there will be good discounts on suitable facades to realize your ideas without breaking your head.
Now, if we had Ikea in our city, I can imagine how much easier it would be financially for me to build my own kitchen ...

Now, if we had Ikea in our city, I can imagine how much easier it would be financially for me to build my own kitchen ...

Yes? And as for me, the prices there are frantic for the facades, you can buy an assembled wardrobe. Which are from the Method series. Modular - the same as in any other store, only less beautiful. Maybe you don't sell modular kitchens and there are no factories?
And everything remains in place: the upper hinged ones are small in depth, if you want them to hang, then you will have to take the lower ones. Or build the frame yourself. And saw-saw-saw, the size is not standard because of the plate, there because of the gaps left so that the plate does not adjoin the tables somewhere. And the question is, why do they make 50cm hoods for the hood, do they really put the stove close?

In short, you need to lie down. Distracted, ordered a table

Ease, you know, I wanted to join the openwork chandelier, the cat regularly tears the tablecloths, and we regularly cut or burn them. Well, again, a cross between a modern work area and an old sideboard. Now I think you need it? In extreme cases, I will not throw the old one away, I will drag it to the bedroom and, if anything, I will change it back.

in short ... svolosi at the factory. of the stated 60 cm depth
60 cm table top. 45 - bottom cabinet and 30 top

How did you accept such a job?
Or was it really so conceived?
For the first time in my life I see this такое

This is also the first time I hear and see the depth of the lower cabinets 45. Well this is how much useful space is missed

[in the kitchen]

Undoubtedly! And the lever on the tap must be UNDER the gander!

))) You will not believe it - it did not occur to me so much that in the kitchen you can put a mixer with a lever on top, that when I first saw such a moronic decision at my acquaintances, I shut up in mid-sentence, suddenly staring at IT.
By the way, there they have a "rag from the sink" in a constant mode hanging on a gander. Decorates. Dries up.))

In short, you need to lie down. Distracted, ordered a table

Beautiful. But for some time now I have a poor perception of my legs, stuck strictly in the corners.)))

And we lived with a "temporary" dining table, our acquaintances in the cafe ordered new furniture, and we got it ... he has such massive underframes, they were fastened in the center ..
They were looking, looking for a table .. well, I don’t like it, it’s also a cosmic price ... in short, everything is not right ..
As a result, we ordered a 120 by 80 countertop in Maria (the kitchen from them), they torn off the same way as in the main kitchen ... they attached the mountings for the sub-tables and here it is our new table)
Very comfortable when the legs are not at the corners.
If interested, I'll take a photo as I get home)

If interested, I'll take a photo as I get home)

Aha, come on! Interesting to see.

I am still glad that once upon a time my husband insisted on buying a round table. He turned out to be so cool. Spacious enough for six people or even a little more (140 cm in diameter), legs with an "anti-tank hedgehog" somewhere inside, I live with a computer and walk my legs there. Well, the rest of the family members fit for dinner, just knock our feet - everyone wants to attach them there.

Like this, only black.

Like this, only black.

Do you know the orange? Here is such a living, current black))
No, come on for a real photo

I was looking for a kitchen for a summer residence and at the same time did not pay attention to the depth, because I believed that the depth should be the same as the countertop, and after the photo Kiwi climbed to look at the size of the kitchen that she chose and it turned out that the lower tables are 42, and the upper ones are 28 I'm shocked.

[Tanyusha]

There was always something under my table. Recently, this is a stool without which nowhere. Therefore, she did not look at any hedgehogs, she immediately brushed aside. Despite the fact that the stool under the selected table will spoil the view, that 90 to 60 come by someone a little ... fell in love with the table itself and that's it. But what is not round, yes, it worries. And the chandelier asks for a round one in the form of branches with roses. Five-arm ... (Another sudden love, I hate all sorts of tenderness, and suddenly I saw a chandelier and disappeared. This is exactly what I want and that's all. I could hardly find where it was available) and that would be such a table, but round ...however, which I saw either not at all to my taste, or cost from 30 thousand.
I remembered a case (it seems somewhere in this topic was) fell in love with the table, despite the fact that because of it, all the rest of the furniture had to be changed later. And I almost do it.

Added Thursday, 17 Nov 2016, 06:41 PM

Tanyusha, oh. I thought there were no such things even ... and after all, sellers of ready-made modules often mean by depth not a cabinet, but a tabletop and height already "with legs" ...

140cm in diameter
Do you have a kitchen in diameter, Bijul? Let's boast, I'll envy you a little

No, come on for a real photo

What a mischievous aunt you are, Katerina ... Has anyone already told you about this?
Now you take a picture of the figs - on it a tablecloth and a million and one little things are located, you can not see anything, but I found an old picture. Straight in business - it turned out that a bunch of people urgently needed to be fed, there was no wallpaper in the new house yet, but the table was already there.


The kitchen also has a dining type, but rectangular. Once I liked it very much, but alas, these legs in the corners broke the whole buzz. ((In fact, it turned out to be completely uncomfortable, for some reason you can't even put your legs on your legs under it.

Added Thursday, November 17, 2016 7:37 PM

Do you have a kitchen in diameter, Bijul?

No, the smithy is normal, only 14 meters. And this table in ... The devil knows how to call this hut ... Living room-dining room-bedroom, or something ... There is a huge TV, computer, sofa, armchairs, this table ... The room turned out to be the warmest winter and the most cool in the summer - the husband fully boycotted the lawful bedroom on the second floor, so over the years they completely moved here, the room is long and partly fenced off.) The husband once decided that there would be two rooms, Lena saw, was indignant, and the wall was partially exhausted.))

for some reason you can't even put your legs under it.

Oh, it came. This is probably because the height of the table is usually 750 (my current one is higher, thick, massive, folding into an oval) and the underframe is that wide? Or is it not it that interferes, namely the legs?
In general, I thought about it. Especially over the combination of ordered white with computer chairs. They are in our kitchen. But we usually sit sideways to the table. On the one hand, it seems like it shouldn't interfere and time is spent at the table well, very little (that's why I wanted to expand the space at its expense), on the other, I thought about it. It is necessary to go live to see somewhere, if not this, then similar, fortunately pre-order. Maybe, well, refuse it?

Lenusik, chairs with a rectangular table look great!

[Bijou]

You are harmful, Katerina ... Has anyone already told you about this?

What about 8) one hundred mulion times
And thank you very much for that

Posted on Friday 18 Nov 2016 10:37 AM

Bijou, and for the pictures thank you, maladtsa
Beautiful as yours: girl_in_dreams: I liked it very much

[Bizusechka]

As beautiful as yours

Aha !!!

I really liked

And me, strong, strong !!!

Bizusechka, don't you work as a designer in your free time?

How I miss him ...

[Tanyusha]

I was looking for a kitchen for a summer residence and at the same time did not pay attention to the depth, because I believed that the depth should be the same as the countertop, and after the photo Kiwi climbed to look at the size of the kitchen that she chose and it turned out that the lower tables are 42, and the upper ones are 28 I'm shocked.

Tanyusha, be stunned! Is this a new way for manufacturers to save money?
direct mass insanity of some kind!

but how to build a PMM or an oven there, and a sink ?? !!!)))

maybe soon they will start making household appliances for such sizes?

Well, the top 28 is still a very common option, but the bottom 42 is completely mockery. The cords are shorter, the cabinets are narrower ...

Well the top 28 is still a very common option.

agree 28-30cm in half somewhere it was always like this, but the bottom row .... I'm in shock!

girls, with a countertop 60 cm deep, the depth of the lower cabinets is a maximum of 55 cm together with facades, even in custom-made furniture - and this is with an ideal back wall. And if there are pipes, gas supply, etc., then 50-45cm (except for the sink, there are cutouts in the wall)

[Niarma]

Niarma, but for some reason there used to be 60 as well as the countertop, and if you want less, then it's to order. And now this is really some kind of economy that is not clear.

[Tanyusha]

Tanyusha, and where did you want to order? In a store or on the Internet?

[marina-asti]

marina-asti, I looked on the Internet, but I would go to the store to order. I chose several companies and wanted to go and feel, but now I don't even know what to do.

used to be 60 just like the countertop

because there is an overhang of the countertop in front of about 3 cm, minus the thickness of the facades. and the back wall is now attached using a different technology - in a groove, and not stuffed with a DVPushka

and the back wall is now attached using a different technology

Not all. I have no grooves (that new cabinets, that those that were bought in the 80s) with some kind of cardboard and top and bottom. True, the bottom is mostly without a back wall at all - I scored sinks so that I did not pay for unnecessary countertops. Depth 50. Well, it turned out that because of the pipes it does not hang. They apparently imagined some kind of narrow pipe

girls, with a countertop with a depth of 60 cm, the depth of the lower cabinets is maximum 55 cm, together with facades, even in custom-made furniture

But in Ikeevskaya furniture, the countertop is 62 cm and the depth of the cabinet is 58. And I see this difference, seemingly insignificant, right away when I come to my friends. And the upper cabinets are 35 cm deep. Very roomy.

I have an overhang of the countertop, but there is a stone countertop and maybe just 63cm. But I have Italian curbstones, in the evening I will measure.
I'm with my sister now, Finnish cuisine 99g specially took a roulette. Base 58 cm, table top 60 cm.
My husband has been selling kitchens for 20 years. 56-58 cm base depth, under the countertop 60 cm. What Kiwi was made, I don't know what to call it!
There were always cabinets of reduced depth, a bypass duct or some kind of box, and this was slightly more expensive than standard facades.
The standard depth of sinks for built-in, ovens, etc. is designed for a depth of 56 cm on average. How to build an oven in 43-45 cm - I don't understand !!!

Oh, it came. This is probably because the height of the table is usually 750 (my current one is higher, thick, massive, folding into an oval) and the underframe is that wide? Or is it not it that interferes, namely the legs?

I don't know what an underframe is.
She went and sat in the kitchen, trying to cross her legs. Yeah, just like under a round one, this trick does not work - you have to tilt the supporting leg, and squeeze the upper leg under the frame on which the tabletop lies. Perhaps, of course, but inconvenient. Especially when there is something to compare with - they are used to not being ashamed of their movements behind the round.))

with computer chairs. They are in our kitchen.

Well, we practically do not sit in the kitchen, but in the room, yes, I am also on the computer. And now I am drinking tea, and my knee sticks out over the table, because I climbed into it with my feet. Conveniently ... But mine enters under the table.

By the way, about the stools under the table ... You know, there are small folding chairs. Not a replacement for such a stool "just in case," is it?

How about a hundred mulion times
And thank you very much for that

As beautiful as yours, I liked it very much

Aha !!!

Thank you. How many fights with my husband were won .. Because for Biju, the simpler, the better, and my husband wants to be smart.) He was very pleased when people at a party said "how cool!" )

Bizusechka, do you work as a designer in your free time?

How I miss him

Kroshik, So what about the forum ?? Right there the designer sits on the designer! Throw in your options, surely someone will tell you a way.

Well the top 28 is still a very common option.

I tried on mine - with door 36 (but I also have a tabletop slightly wider than the norm), an extremely convenient size for me. Many things stand in two rows with an offset, because the areas are clogged tightly.

Lenusik, chairs with a rectangular table look great!

Yeah, they bought to him.We saw the round one a little later.)) They, by the way, were surprisingly quite comfortable. And even for many years they have been alive and well, except that the pug, which slows down with its claws on the leatherette, left a little traces in memory.

But I chose furniture and decoration - no worse than Anna's brain endured. Both myself and my family ... Well, at least I was on the same wavelength with my son, somehow I called the store, I say - choose me the wallpaper that I liked here. And instantly chose the same! Both kinds.

I don't know what an underframe is.

This is exactly what is under the countertop that prevents you from crossing your legs under the table, if I memorized the word correctly while studying the sites for the restoration of furniture.
Maybe the desire to raise the chair higher depends on height, but my chair with handles does not fit under my computer table either. And I will be left without a keyboard to move it further, since the monitor will have to be placed on the edge of the table.

Len, I don't know what kind of folding chairs, I have a "folding" stool, it itself is higher than ordinary stools and with a retractable step. Not a bar stool, of course, but 57cm high. Well, it's easier to climb. Light wood, but you can paint if necessary.

I have a "folding" stool

Ah .. Well, it doesn't matter. I mean that it is not necessary to "put" it, you can slide it into the slot or hang it on a carnation in the closet.)) That is, do not spoil the design "under the table". If it is, of course, necessary. I have a sack of flour in my kitchen now under the table. Yes, in a pretty cream wicker basket to match the floor, but a bag! And there is nowhere else to put it. So what is there to talk about a stool ... * waved her hand *

Oh no, I’m afraid of those who develop like this, it seems to me that they are not in order to climb them.
And I also have a basket with ten liters of food. Gray, not pretty. But in the corner she is not visible, she is standing behind the sideboard and behind the armchair. And the table is now under the tablecloth. And as I present a stool under this glass "whatnot" I begin to sort out the options again.

[Anna67]

I have a "folding" stool, it itself is higher than usual stools and with a retractable step.

Anna67, can I have a photo of your folding stool? And where can you buy it?

Measured the kitchen at work. 58 table top 52 cupboard. The top 30. But at work, they made it to order and assembled it. And how she took it .... I called, clarified the details - they said 60 cm. They brought the boards, we collected them. If it were not for the bread makers, in my life I would not have paid attention to the size of the bedside table))). So far, I have not even hammered my kitchen by 30%, and there is nothing more to add)) I climbed into the lower drawer myself, sat - it was convenient. Cats climbed too))
Now I am thinking how to make the illumination along the bottom end, because, as always, there is not enough light for me and sockets

[Kivi]

Kivi, and now you will be sawing the countertop along the back, right?

what for?

what for?

maybe just a photo so at an angle, but how to use the top drawer when the handle is so closed by the table top?
And how to install a sink? If the doors are getting in the way ...

I don't know how to take pictures. The top drawer opens normally. It is closed but does not interfere too much. There will be a hinged sink. There is also such a special overlay on the doors. Here the sink is hung on it.

I don't know how to take pictures.

Apparently the shooting angle is really like that.

Apparently the shooting angle is really like that.

Whatever one may say, but the table top hangs over the side tables by 15 cm (table top - 60 cm, side tables - 45 cm), it seems to me that this is very inconvenient, this is the first time I see this.

[Kivi]

Whatever one may say, but the table top hangs over the side tables by 15 cm (table top - 60 cm, side tables - 45 cm), it seems to me that this is very inconvenient, this is the first time I see this.

it seemed to me exactly in cm. Therefore, I do not understand how to enter the sink there. But once Kivi conveniently -

[Niarma]

what for?

Well, if it is convenient for you that it hangs like that, then there is no need, but in this version the handles turned out to be uncomfortable for me. And she deliberately left them like that. One misfortune did not find the same metal ones.I found old ones for glass cabinets, but there is no such width as these. Was upset.
Precisely, I didn’t think about washing ... I’m a lazy person, but then I would start to figure it out.

Niarma, The stool is such, not a decoration, of course, but it does not interfere under the table, and in general it wanders around the apartment. Of course, you can't change the light bulb, and it's easy to remove dust and rubbish from shelves and cabinets. No, well, where is it spinning, I don't see the image?

I bought saytmebeli on the internet.

[Kivi]

Kivi, hike, with your kitchen in production there was a jamb in the program that made the "pattern". Well, someone mistakenly prescribed the wrong size - the program drew so crookedly, then another machine cut it so crookedly on the sheet, cut another crookedly, then they brought you these crooked boards and you put them together so crookedly. Because this simply cannot be, because it can never be. Yes, there are shallow cabinets. But they come with an equally shallow countertop! Such obvious distortions simply cannot be planned !! How can you encourage someone else's negligence so much ?? Yes, even for their own money ... This is incomprehensible to the mind!

In any case, you have a warranty period and a claim to the seller. So use it for God's sake!

This is not a mistake. Look at the not expensive kitchens at Borovichi, Horizon, Nastya's uhnya, in the end. It is an economy that must be economical. The only thing, when assembling, there should be space between the kitchen wall and the back wall of the kitchen furniture. This is the so-called technical indentation. That is, there should be a large gap behind the wall of the kitchen furniture to the kitchen wall. As it were, for pipes and other technical needs. Take a look at the kitchens from the economy class series. They are almost all the same in depth. They write 60 cm everywhere, and with a ruler you start measuring and you understand the real depth. I sold such furniture for a year and a half in an Internet store. But we honestly had everything attached, all the parameters and sizes. But in words it is still written, the depth of the lower cabinets is 60 cm.
By the way, I also do not have a deep economy class kitchen. When the question is such a cuisine or none, then there is not much choice. But I knew the parameters, I went for it deliberately. I can say that I do not suffer from such a depth of the lower cabinets. I have a tiny kitchen now, there are few cabinets, how many fit. And a lot of top. I ordered it for the ceiling. And above the table on the opposite wall, a cabinet hangs from the ceiling, and above the front door to the kitchen. For a long time I thought over my kitchen, adjusting to the ready-made sizes and saving on everything I could.

[Anna67]

Anna67, and what kind of handles are in the kitchen? I am now dealing with this issue, I am going to buy wholesale in Boyard - I need 36 pens. There you can both wholesale and retail (more expensive, of course.)

[Anna1957]

Anna1957, I have those roof rails that came with furniture. I just wanted the rails and hang something temporarily like a strainer or tongs (I don't plan them on the wall), and for my own convenience, the railing is better than a bracket. Although the point is probably what kind of bracket - in our old one they were simply not grasping, too close to the facade.
Their handles are in the photo, especially in which the door is clearly visible. I don't know which ones, but the store manager said they were cheap to find easily. But I definitely did not find such. For the remaining glass I bought the same ones in Maxidome 🔗 the desired distance between the holes in the glass. Nothing special.
However, a problem suddenly appeared, if before the handle was on the side, now I will not get used to the direction in which the door opens to the right or to the left.

I chose similar ones, only square, not round. My link is also there, but small (128, and I need 192).