Furniture for kitchen

Gas stoves are not allowed. Only rarely does anyone fulfill this requirement.

So the cabinets are a trifle for us, but I want to remove the doors. I was very surprised when I read somewhere here that it is impossible to remove the door in the kitchen.

I do not have a door to the kitchen, I am very uncomfortable. Smells from food, even with a hood, still pulls into rooms and stagnate there for a long time, although we ventilate them. It especially stinks when baking meat in the oven, even though I am neat. All kitchen sounds are heard throughout the apartment, especially in the evening and morning. Well, it depends more on the layout of the apartment, I am not very successful in this regard.
In short, I'm toiling ...

I do not have a door to the kitchen, I am very uncomfortable.

So I'm not happy that the door to the kitchen is missing. Yes, it is sounds and smells that spread too much. That is, if you do not live in an apartment alone, then it is more comfortable with a kitchen door.

Everything is wrong for us, there are doors - bad, no doors - bad

I do not have a door to the kitchen, I am very uncomfortable.

So I'm not glad that the door to the kitchen is missing

Vooot. I don’t understand when the living room and kitchen are drained. I don’t understand. I think that there will be a small kitchen, but a separate one. I also don't have doors to the kitchen, and I don't like it either, but there is simply nowhere to open them. Everything is too small. And she didn't want a sliding one. Again, you need to push it apart somewhere, you need to eat off the place along the wall, and then everything is right there.

Everything is wrong for us, there are doors - bad, no doors - bad

You probably haven't lived without a kitchen door? I have the good fortune to compare both options and categorically out the door.

I don’t understand when the living room and kitchen are drained. I don’t understand.

And I am in my 40s, having bought a 1st class apartment, I took and connected a 15 m kitchen with a 25 m living room ... having lived "all my life" in a tiny rented dwelling I wanted to fly / air / space Nobody honestly suggested what was beautiful in a magazine / Internet is not very practical in life, especially if the family cooks ... But all the friends coming to visit for the first time say "Wow !!!" But I have no regrets, I will pay off the mortgage and in 15 years it may be possible to return the wall, or maybe not

You probably haven't lived without a kitchen door?

I didn’t live, but I don’t use the door for at least 25 years.
We have there, on one half-meter patch, three doors with the letter P, a toilet, a pantry and a kitchen, then a bathroom, and opposite the kitchen there is another door to the living room. Double. Busting there with doors per square meter.
I don't know, you can start by simply taking it off and hiding it, but I highly doubt that immediately after this there will be an urgent need to put this door back in place.
Of course, I do not persuade anyone in the correctness of my decision, it all depends on the layout, ventilation, household habits, culinary preferences and the frequency of cooking. The neighbor did the repairs and also does not complain about the arch instead of the door. True, she has a habit of closing the bedroom door.

I will supplement myself. I can only understand such a space in a large house or in a large apartment. When a bunch of separate bedrooms, study, playroom, etc.

When a bunch of separate bedrooms, an office, a playroom

This is also available !!!

True, she has a habit of closing the door

I develop this quality in myself and in ALL household members ...

And on the contrary, I walk and swear when my husband closes the door in his room

True, she has a habit of closing the bedroom door.

Our bedroom is adjacent to the kitchen and even tight closure does not help, alas. And also Murzik Vladimirovich lives with us and because of him we never close the doors tightly, only the hall for the night so that the carpet does not rip ..

And I have two murziks, they even burst into the bathroom if they close. Probably peep and control. And for some reason I don't close the kitchen even when I butcher meat, and this is probably the only case when the door should be closed.

[listening]

I feel uncomfortable without a door, because when I mess around in the kitchen and listening TV, then sounds (pouring water, a boiling kettle, a working hood, etc.) make the TV sound turn up. This TV set interferes with the rest of the household and a conflict situation is brewing. If the door were simpler ...

The burning question of doors! The other day I sold an apartment with a combined kitchen / living room area. It was this association that became one of the main reasons for the sale. When I was planning an apartment, it seemed that it was great, there was more space. But only after living I realized that this is not convenient. As for most common smells, the noise from kitchen appliances for the whole house is dirtier in my opinion, and indeed sometimes you just want to be alone in the kitchen, to conjure up so to speak
And now I have a new separate kitchen, and so far in the draft stage. I am looking for an electrician. 4 candidates have already come, and when I say that I need 14 sockets in the kitchen, all such faces as one say WHY so much ?? And we have to list: 2 multicooker, AF, toaster, kettle, etc., and so on. They nod, of course, but the expression on their faces, you should have clearly seen an ordinary bread maker for them, as a species is not yet familiar ...

[Jenealis]

Jenealis, where are you from? I have a good electrician, plumber, window master.

I'm uncomfortable without a door

That's me too. Where was my head 9 years ago? I was doing repairs in the kitchen and I wanted an arch. Now I scold myself, the doors to the rooms are always closed, but the kitchen is my corner. Sometimes I myself want to shut myself off from everyone, sit alone with a laptop, smoke in the evening, chat with friends on the phone. Eh, it would have been bigger ...

[Jenealis]

Jenealis, strange electricians have come across to you. I now have a renovation in the kitchen 5.5 sqm. So he drilled 19 sockets on me and did not blink an eye. He says there were 27 sockets in some kitchen)))
Moreover, the masters usually do not care how much. They count them by the piece (600 rubles per point)

Happy repair)))

[dana77]

14 sockets to the kitchen,

I only have 15 m 21 sockets in the "kitchen". Only 6 are clearly visible, but I do not have extension cords, wires, etc. All thanks to the Bread Maker !!! When I was asked where and how many sockets I needed, I sat down and counted how many I needed, my husband was surprised (he was an electrician and was responsible for this front of work), but did not contradict / did not climb on his face ... now he walks and is amazed ... how correctly I calculated (even praises sometimes)

Added Sunday 02 Oct 2016 00:03

So I drilled 19 sockets

in the kitchen 5.5 sqm

dana77, Natalia, You even "surpassed" me !!!

So he drilled 19 sockets on me and did not blink an eye. He says there were 27 sockets in some kitchen)))

I remembered someone's story on the forum.
The hostess invited the electricians. They gave her chalk and told her to put crosses in the right places. Well, she was carried away by rock painting ... She hears a whisper behind her:

- Someone, take the crayon from her!

[Ludmila]

Ludmila, we may have different footage, but there are equally a lot of equipment))))) and I have to cram it into my area))))

Lena, about the crayon test

all as one say WHY so much ??

As soon as a candidate for performance asks such a question, I immediately say goodbye to him.
And another parting phrase - "But we don't do that .." That's it! Farewell.

The burning question of doors!

Exactly.
When the apartments were being repaired / united / disconnected (I studied well at school and learned the lesson "How to survive neighbors"), a cool designer came to me. I went around everything. The verdict is to demolish all the walls, there will be a studio.
Nooo! I need a separate kitchen with a door. She did not like this idea terribly.
She planned a kitchen for me ... from her plan there was only one cabinet left, which I am very happy about.
But she gave me practical and very convenient advice - to go and see expensive kitchens and rooms.How and where is what is compiled. Take pictures.
Then order an acceptable option for yourself.

Louise! Your kitchen is wonderful!
Even chairs to match the kettle and flowers - :)
Thanks for the tweaks!

Handsomely. Is your daughter happy? Ventshakhta was well bypassed. I remember talking about the sofa. Refused?

Anna, oh, you remember our planning of the ventilation mine, yes, we went around, now it does not rush into the eyes, and the cabinet turned out to be comfortable, with a bunch of shelves, but they refused from the sofa, well, there is nowhere to sculpt it with a kitchen width of 2 meters, but I was convinced that both you can live on 9 squares

Added on Wednesday 05 Oct 2016 02:44 PM

Even chairs to match the kettle and flowers - :)

Yeah, we tried: girl-yes: Girls, thank you for the feedback

there are equally a lot of equipment))))) and I have to cram it into my area

What saves me is that I am terribly afraid to turn it on at the same time, and therefore it spread throughout the apartment: a bedroom, an office, a closet. Something has crawled out there and I use it, but without fanaticism, who knows if it hangs on the same line and at what load the entire district will be cut down.
And who can find out what capacity is allocated for the apartment?

[Anna67]

Anna67Anna, that's what I don’t know, I don’t know.
Previously, a kettle and a microwave were included in one extension cord. Here they could not be turned on together)))) and the rest is rarely when more than two devices work at the same time.
And during the repair, new wires are laid and the machines are put in the shield. I say this because I myself bought wires (50 + 20 meters) and 6 machines. And what for and what they are, I don’t know. I wrote on a piece of paper and rushed)))) and this is for the kitchen 5 sqm and baths 3.5 sqm

[dana77]

dana77, I bought the wires, we will stretch the identity ourselves and we will call an electrician only to connect them. Unfortunately, it is not provided for so many large-scale repairs to demolish the tiles and change the wallpaper in the kitchen, so we will twist ourselves so that we somehow reach the kitchen line without hitting the tiles anywhere along the way and without crashing into the old wiring. And there, as evil, either one, or the second, or there is no need for an outlet there for nothing

[Bijou]

Anna, let your men figure out what and how. Probably they will pull along the wall and put them in plastic boxes. Not very aesthetically pleasing - but it is safe that the network will not close. We use devices on a delayed start, without constant monitoring. Better not to risk it.
And you like in a joke from Bijou- chalk in hand))))

[dana77]

dana77, "our men" is me. Cut a hole under the sink in the countertop, connect the chopper, put the PMM into the closet by itself ... And a little turned away, so the man will collect the closet backwards with the unadhesive side out and say that it's okay because you can't see it behind the door.
Unfortunately, electricians also change the sockets so that they spark and fall out of the walls ...

Yes, of course there will be external wiring, cable duct.

And a little turned away, so the man will collect the wardrobe backwards with the unsticked side out and say that it's okay because you can't see it behind the door.

How do you know?? No, I have not a husband, but gold - he builds everything himself, trims, conducts, saws, drills and so on. But. I assembled the furniture myself. I open the door - one shelf backwards. I ask - But how ?? (c) - Come on, it's okay, it's still not visible ..

[Lena]

Lena, but how is this shelf backwards?
I don't have enough imagination.
For me, the shelf is at least so, at least in another way ...

Added Wednesday 05 Oct 2016 11:14 PM

Ahh, probably an edge?

Ahh, probably an edge?

She is the most. So while it is. "Well, you rearrange the legs there, and when I fix the tabletop I will turn this bar over. Maybe"

Ahh, probably an edge?

Yeah. One side was unpainted, and that one was in plain sight. But to unfold - half of the cabinet will have to be scattered. So they abandoned this case.))

And what is surprising ... Sometimes I specifically sit watching. If there are two options to do something, he will certainly choose the wrong one, which I think is correct. Nail the shelf, cut off the bread or cheese, put the flower on the table ...This is HOW he does it, mm?
And how did we live together for so many years?

But he is learning. For every trifle he calls and asks how I need. )))

- Zaya, how can you lay out a wall here?
Zaya thought about it and decided:
- Beveled here, so that it was more spacious and I didn't bump into the stairs with my shoulder at the turn.
The next morning I go out - laugh.
- Sun, why did you ask me? To listen to a woman and do the opposite?))
- How was it necessary?
- Well, I asked that there was no corner.
- Let's cut it off!

After a while, he takes a grinder and saws off a piece of a concrete wall.

One side was unpainted, and that one was in plain sight.

I took a brush in my hands and painted it, business ...

I'm afraid to paint the chipboard is such nonsense as to glue it with an edge tape. In any case, I almost burned this tape, and both burned with an iron.
In general, the male view of repair is simply amazing:
- We must leave access to the pipes.
- Let's hang plywood here. (over the sink, yeah)
- It would be good to somehow disguise the gas pipe.
- Let's hang the ivy.
- Here you scratched a new closet.
- Let's hang ivy here, you know how beautiful it will be?

[any]

I'm afraid to paint chipboard is such nonsense as to glue it with edge tape

Are you afraid to paint or glue the edge? Need to find any the way that there is no open cut of chipboard - formaldehyde is not at all useful to us.

We sell an edge band that just needs to be glued (one side is sticky, under the film), without an iron. And even different widths, different colors. The more popular 16 mm (well, furniture is more often made of such a plate ...) is more expensive than wider ones.

Are you afraid to paint or glue the edge?

This is me about the durability of such gluing at home. The quality of the edging tape itself + lack of experience give a wonderful result, it fell off with us even during the assembly of the cabinet. So I missed all the sections that are not visible with liquid glass, I hope this is enough.

Added Thursday, 06 October 2016 20:35

more expensive than wider.

I think it's wider for countertops.

Who is in the subject, confirm the correctness of my impression: this LED strip does not need a power supply, it just plugs into the network?
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Is it good or bad? Are there users?

[Anna1957]

Anna1957, PSU is not needed. I'm not very much in the subject, but the guys dissuaded me from such. I don't remember anymore because of the reliability or maintainability, but I listened to them.
They write on the Internet

Disadvantages. High voltage, requires special care during installation and operation. It can break down quickly if you buy a cheap Chinese one. Repairing an airtight one will be very difficult. You can only trim to lengths that are multiples of 100 or 50 centimeters. The LEDs flicker with a frequency of 100 Hertz, it is not noticeable to the eye, but the person's consciousness is influenced, tired and headaches may appear.

I especially did not like the frequency.

Are there diodes that do not flicker? Or is the frequency higher?

[Anna1957]

Anna1957, PSU is not needed. I'm not very much in the subject, but the guys dissuaded me from such. I don't remember anymore because of the reliability or maintainability, but I listened to them.
They write on the Internet. Especially I didn't like the frequency.

Thank you, so don't.

[Bijou]

Bijou, probably. In general, they told me not to buy such, I did not. That is, I bought almost such, but temporarily, then I will hang it in a less habitable place such as cabinets and pantries. Even without diodes, my head hurts often.

Nonsense quoted from the Internet
It is cut off in steps of several cm (about 2-5), it is connected no more difficult and no less reliably than ordinary electrical appliances
It has been working for me for 4 years already, I am not overjoyed

To each his own

Are there diodes that do not flicker? Or is the frequency higher?

Using capacitors, you can raise the flicker frequency. Then I even came across a video, like in an LED lamp for a standard base, you can change the capacitor to reduce the flicker frequency

Now the master suggested making sockets (and I have 11 of them planned) on the lower surface of the wall cabinets, since 4 sockets in one frame (and I do it in 1 place) - will have to be given to waterjet cutting, and this is min. 2tyr. Otherwise, he says, the tiles will crack. And it seems like he did it to me last time (but I just don't remember and don't live there now).This is very bad? Or agree? I thought - it doesn't seem to bother me

It turns out the wires will hang from above? If not annoying, then you can agree. It would have bothered me. For aesthetics, I would pull it out all the time, but to connect it would have to bend and dodge all the time. Can't you split the block into 2 * 2?

It turns out the wires will hang from above? If not annoying, then you can agree. It would have bothered me. For aesthetics, I would pull it out all the time, but to connect it would have to bend and dodge all the time. Can't you split the block into 2 * 2?

It seems that they agreed that they would not drill in the center of the tile, but at the junction (it is 30x30cm, and the apron height is 55). Then, they said, it won't crack.

Anna, nothing will crack anywhere! The first time I hear such nonsense, I have 2 to 4 in my kitchen, they cut everything perfectly, nothing cracked. And I have no idea about the sockets on the cabinets!

The first time I hear such nonsense, I have 2 to 4 in my kitchen, they cut everything perfectly, nothing cracked.

Depends on the tile. But we have already agreed that there will be sockets in the seam area.