Vesta
Irina, Oksana is yes, that is still an infection, you don't always need to listen to it, next time try to score China town, and then drive from it to the restaurant.
Mari_M
Hello dear girls! And I came to you for help with the layout of the kitchen. Will you help
Tanya-Fanya
Well, how not to support a countrywoman - :)
Do you have a plan? Wishlist? Dreamers?
Mari_M
Quote: Tanya-Fanya
Well, how not to support a countrywoman - :)
Do you have a plan? Wishlist? Dreamers?
Are you talking to me? There are sooo many hotelok and dreamer, and I'll put the plan tomorrow. So far, only a photo.
There will be a kitchen on this wall
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Tanya-Fanya
where is the photo?
Mari_M
Quote: Tanya-Fanya
where is the photo?
Tomorrow I will write all the sizes. And by the way, we want to make a kitchen dining room. Approximately 25 squares


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Do you think there is not enough space for the kitchen dining room?
Tanya-Fanya
What a wonderful footage !!!


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It is not necessary to write the dimensions, but to make a drawing of the room. Apply all sizes to it, mark the places where there is an ox and sewerage, gas, windows, doors, heights, windows, etc.

And try to draw what you want on this drawing yourself
Mari_M
Quote: Tanya-Fanya
What a wonderful footage !!!
Thank you! But it still seems to me that there is not enough room for my wishes and dreams
Tanya-Fanya
So is the kitchen and dining room! Not a living room, so a great size
Mari_M
Quote: Tanya-Fanya
So is the kitchen and dining room! Not a living room, so a great size
I have not counted the passage part there yet, but somewhere it turns out 30kV in my opinion
Anna67
Eh. I have 12. I started thinking about cutting a passage to the bedroom and sleeping in the study. I realized well in time that psychologically it is not an option to have a rest where you work. And there are still two of us left. How did the five of us fit on 12 meters before? ...
Tanya-Fanya
I have vaaaasche 9 m, but a fresh kitchen, it's only a week since we have been settling in it. I don't want to leave it, it's comfortable .- :)
Mari_M, there are 2 options.
1. Get your blueprint and go to various kitchen salons. See their concepts for your area, listen to ideas.
2. Go to the IKEA website, there is a planner and build your own kitchen and dining room. For me it was very useful, I subsequently clearly tracked where they wanted to cheat me in the salons. As a result, from 250 thousand in one salon for plastic, I bought furniture without appliances for 130.
Anna67
And I still suffer. Should I drive the third tier or not?
On the one hand, there is nowhere to put all these pribluda, on the other, I already had to buy a high stool to reach the roof of the upper cabinets. They have become taller than the old ones, and so it is no longer possible to reach out and take (especially a meat grinder or multicooker). And on the third, I can’t understand whether this feeling of free space will diminish for me or not. And if so, isn't it better anyway than the cluttered look of the tops of the cabinets? Previously, there was only earthenware ... Also of course for an amateur (personally in our interior it was combined with a clay sconce body above the table and played the role of a bundle of modern furniture with an old sideboard), but not a meat grinder.
Tanya-Fanya
Anna67, and you have high ceilings? And what color of the facades of the third tier is supposed to be?
I have a height of 3 m. I ordered the upper cabinets for 90, white ones, and I was afraid that they would crush visually. Now I regret that I didn’t do it at 120. With our culinary ambitions and wishes ... there are never enough cabinets. It looks great and even adds volume.
I realized that it is impossible to split cabinets in width.
Perhaps I will console you about growth. With my height a little more than one and a half meters, I can remove the cup from the shelf of the drying cabinet on socks and only from the edge, a little further without a magic stool from Ikea I can't reach .- :)
Anna67
Tanya-Fanya, also three meters.The letter G. The furniture itself, the bottom is chocolate, the top is lighter - the cappuccino seems 75 cm high, and I plan to make the third white to match the color of the refrigerator and the stove, which stand there with two white pillars.
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I realized that it is impossible to split cabinets in width.
So I got it. They will have to be counted on their own and to order, standard horizontal cabinets do not fit in size and the lines of the facades go. A custom-made non-standard is already completely different money, so two or three thousand for a wardrobe will not work on a budget. Well, you can shorten the cabinet itself, but the facades ...

Well, it begins: along all the cabinets or only along one wall, a right angle or a corner cabinet? Well, I gave it up so far, it is more important to make the bathroom now until the shelf life of the materials has expired. Yes, and the wall on the site of the former mixer requires finishing - while changing the mixer from wall to desktop, they broke more tiles than planned and instead of a small picture of which they were going to close access to the eyeliner, I had to buy a picture on glass. The picture is beautiful, it stands beautifully on the countertop, because of this, the countertop is still without a plinth
In general, I already have something to do, but like all this technique in the most unexpected places, including the trellis in the bedroom and the table in the study, I see I begin to return to this idea and again run with a tape measure from the refrigerator to the stove.
And I want space, I plan to change the dining table too. I even ordered a white glass one. Now I think whether it is necessary or not - I got used to the round one, I feel sorry for him ...
lega
Quote: Anna67
the worktop is still without skirting because of this
Do you really need it?

I don't have a baseboard and I don't want one. My builders sealed the joint between the countertop and the tile apron with silicone to match the color.
There is a skirting board in the old apartment and I scold him - there is always dirt there, but near the sink there is absolutely trouble.
Tanya-Fanya
That's it, girls! I also don't like the place between the baseboard and the sink, it's wet
For a week of the existence of new furniture, I, like ... smart, do not let go of a microfiber cloth from my hands, I constantly blot it there. Either from wet hands when I open and close the tap, it drips there ...
I just understand that the plinth has nothing to do with it. I also wondered if I needed a plinth. I have a tile from the Kalamkari Kerama Marazzi series, its edges are not even under the chipped stone, so I decided to put a plinth anyway.
But on the floor between the laminate and the walls, the skirting boards were abandoned, as Lga says about the kitchen option.
Bijou
Quote: Tanya-Fanya
Either from wet hands when I open and close the tap, it drips there ...
I always said that the crane should be turned exclusively with the lever inward.
Anna67
We can't do without a plinth. Yes, and I'm used to it - I'm not looking at the bare joint.
Quote: Tanya-Fanya
I just understand that the plinth has nothing to do with it.
Here he may have nothing to do with it, but I have nowhere without him: there is such a gap between the table top and the tile that nothing can be covered with it. If the matter were in the drain pipe is not a question, but in the lower cabinet there is a PMM (it began to enrage incredibly on the table) and rests against the wall. The standard width of the countertops is small, and not the standard, I wanted an artificial stone. But there is no money for it.
Also, not so much my something as I use a rag every minute. Although the faucet, that is, the sink is round, is set so that it is at an angle of 45, and not closer to the wall. Along the way, I remember my deceased mother, who cursed every time I poured water around everything. She was poor hoping that that kitchen would be enough for my whole life :( That's why I don't want to change the tiles, even though it is crookedly laid along the curved walls, and did not change the layout much, and left two old cabinets from the previous headset.
Bijou
No, all the same, all the sorrow is from crooked taps, I say for sure.)) I, like my bending one and with a lever inside the sink, installed, so generally they almost forgot about the rag - if I wipe the drops, then on the front of the countertop, but not in the back - at I was there recently, one little piece of glass stood for several days, between the sink and the baseboard. Today I cleaned it and it was completely dry under it.

But before, on the edge of the sink (I have it small and without ebb along the outer edge, that is, everything that has dripped immediately flows out) there was always a rag on duty.
Anna67
Bijou, when the tap was on the wall, the mountain from wet hands and brazg which ricocheted from the dishes. Now more likely from the tap, although the lever is inward, but it is quite a bit more than it is necessary for such a sink. He turned on the water more strongly and everything was wet. So I wipe it off, swear and think if I will have to change the countertop again earlier than planned, or perhaps with the sink together. Fortunately, it is not expensive and was bought as an experiment, do I need a round and stone one. As a bonus, now I know at least which end to hold the jigsaw.
Olga VB
Quote: Anna67
The furniture itself, the bottom is chocolate, the top is lighter - the cappuccino seems 75cm high, and I plan to make the third white to match the color of the refrigerator and stove, which stand there with two white pillars.
I completed the third tier with white shelves. She was also worried that they would press.
And they not only do not press, but even somehow "raise" the ceiling, almost merge with it (our ceiling is white). I exhibited a photo somewhere.
I did it from IKEA, and one had to be cut off, because it had to be 52 cm wide. They took 60 cm, cut off and trimmed the facade - as if it were!
So, bolder, everything will be very good.

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Just 52 cm above the hood
There, because of the foreshortening, it is distorted, but all the boxes are exactly the same size as the rest in width, and the left one above the pencil case is also in depth

Bijou
Anna67, Right now, I'll show my tap again.)) It cost three kopecks, I use it for the third year, if not more.

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Appearance, of course, is not too sophisticated. But for the comfort, I forgive him everything.
Kivi
But I'll boast. (do not pay attention to the hole, there the hinged sink has not yet been bolted with a tap)
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I wanted something completely different, but what no one wanted here does) Wildly dreamed of a kitchen with shelves upstairs and not with these pedestals. But there is also a plus - I have already pushed SO MUCH there and there is still a place. But the backlight needs to be done 10 centimeters wider than the width of the upper pedestals. And the illumination along the bottom of the upper pedestal must also be done. And there are twice as many outlets. 5 is not enough for me))
I bought a standard set + a separate cabinet for a sink (because the sidebar from the store is VERY expensive + they put only their own). And another one and a half meters of the wall is walking)
Bijou
Kivi, oh, how high the cabinets are above the table top!
And why is everything so uzyseny so, is it a designer delicacy? Does the top cabinet even fit any wide plate, or just saucers?

Congratulations, suns! Now your cats can't eat you off the floor!
Kivi
uh ... two cabinets of 70 cm and one 60 cm. And one more add-on for 70 cm :) Bijou, already obpivayut, alcoholics)
I did not fit the opposite part into the tablet) There are also cabinets)
And high is yes. He measured the half for his height. I can't even get on a stool on the top shelf of the top cabinet. well, or in a jump)) But even I'm still afraid to jump on a stool)
Anna67
I wanted this, but the unwillingness to put a separate tap under the filter won out. Well, it turned out to be too big for the sink. The photo was uploaded sideways to the gallery. I do not know how to change, here: Furniture for kitchen
Vei
Quote: Bijou
I'll show my tap again.)) It cost three kopecks, I use it for the third year, if not more.
Flax, what kind of faucet and where to get it?))
Bijou
Quote: Kivi
uh ... two wardrobes of 70 cm and one of 60.
Nuuu ... I don’t know, I don’t know ... I don’t have plates with a diameter of 60 cm yet. But actually I meant depth.
Quote: Kivi
Biju, already obpivayut, alcoholics)
You seduce youngsters. You subject all sorts of temptations, villain. No, to prohibit on the tables like on the floor roam, you look, they would be healthier.

Quote: Anna67
Well, it turned out to be too big for the sink.
Yeah. I also have splashes from my hands and dishes from the classic ganders in all directions. And this one bent down inside the sink and let it splash for itself, all the same, nothing flies overboard. Well, except for those cases when large pans are mine, then, of course, something flies off.


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Quote: Vei
Flax, what kind of faucet and where to get it?))
Look at the bazaars among the inexpensive. Or unpretentious household ones.Their shaft is of this type, only the levers are different and the filling (we have brass). I, in full confidence that this flexible plastic will not last long, bought as many as three spare pieces (with a little smell 350-500 rubles, one intestine 100-200).
And he lives and lives with all my bullying. (t-t-t)
Kivi
Bijou, 60 cm depth. Few?
Bijou
Kivi, my joy, my eyesight is weak, but not to the same degree!
The closet in the photo is definitely not thicker than the Shteba on the table. And she is not 60 cm, as I tell you!
Anna67
Olga VB, interesting. This is practically my piece of kitchen, but it didn't occur to me to make a cabinet above the refrigerator in its depth, I think to drive the entire tier of the same width.
And I really want the cabinets to be horizontal, I don't want to split the top into doors of 30cm each, it's enough that I was stupid taking the previous project as a basis (I planned to change all the facades and the upper cabinets first). But with ready-made modules there was no other way to develop. Especially stupid was the bottom cabinet for 60 with two upper drawers, very narrow. I removed a hand blender with a hand vacuum in them, in the second spice and boxes as if it had happened.
There are two more problems: the corner where the pipes are - to turn or not to the second wall? And if you turn it, then instead of an open end shelf, there is an end cabinet at the jamb, okay, at least not round. How to deal with this ... It turns out that you need to make parts to order ... Or buy a second such cabinet and shorten it.
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Quote: Kivi
60 cm depth. Few?
Vehnogo? Yes, it cannot be, what then are the depths of the lower ones? O_o
For the rest, the wonders of projection: the cabinet is dark and hanging further the poles seem to be already what they are.
Will there be a shkaf over the staff?
Kivi
in short ... svolosi at the factory. of the stated 60 cm depth
60 cm table top. 45 - bottom cabinet and 30 top
Anna67
Kivi, yeah, I'm sorry. Sadness for us with our devices. And 30 is with the door, huh?
My favorite wide plates go straight into the drying room. But at least the bottom cabinet 50 on the side without a door. And the countertop is 60. Because I can't move it to the wall because of the PMM, well, I don't have enough of these 60s. Well, you can make a cut in the tile, it will give a centimeter of depth. You can hammer up the wall, but you have to pull it out again. Yes, and no matter how it pads along with the tiles on the opposite side of the wall in the toilet But at least you need to chop off the tiles, or even there will be nothing to cling to the plinth. And so I bought an oval one, I was going not to put it, but to put it on the wider side. But outwardly I do not like it, it would be better to put it.

Well, ladies, do you think it is necessary to make the depth of the 3rd tier also 30 or let it overhang? If a lamp is built in there, is it not as high as twenty meters and a penny to the surface of the table? Considering that it will only illuminate the very edge. A purely decorative function, like multi-tiered ceilings, will turn out ... And again, ready-made modules cannot be dispensed with, except perhaps to take the lower cabinets. Or call those who make sliding wardrobes and let them build by measurement with sliding doors?
kolobashka
Quote: Bijou

Anna67, Right now, I'll show my tap again.)) It cost three kopecks, I use it for the third year, if not more.

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Appearance, of course, is not too sophisticated. But for the comfort, I forgive him everything.

You're in luck! And mine did not last such a month. Stopped passing water. We already poked at him, poked - it's useless. What happened to the inside was something incomprehensible. Now a tall, rigid gander and spray in all directions.
Anna67
kolobashka, and a flexible hose on it not? Although I understand, he is terrible. Hooked and removed.
kolobashka
No, it won't.)))
Bijou
kolobashka, did not understand anything .. but why is it stiff? Has the gander stopped skipping or the cartridge? The cartridge to replace a penny is worth it, they screwed the gander, unscrewed the douche, poked it through with a wire .. No, doesn't it fit? In our second cartridge, a year later, they began to let it go, they changed it for a hundred rubles.
Anna1957
Anna67, come to the topic "his majesty renovation", there we all discuss these problems together. They helped me a lot with advice.
Olga VB
Anna67, and no need to split, make the upper modules into 2-3 lower ones.And hang it wherever you see fit. And under the pipes you can cut it out in the back wall (in the side it is not very desirable).
If you decide to make IKEAavskim, then there are generally penny whites, you can experiment without much damage to the budget. In addition, you can buy them separately without a door, so you can leave open shelves and make a double one with only one door (in the corner, for example).
And about the depth. Your current is not enough for you? boldly make the third tier protruding - it does not press at all.
lega
Quote: Olga VB
and open shelves can be left
Open shelves under the ceiling are almost suicide.
Anna1957
I do not like open shelves in principle, but already there. where the gas is - you will just jump with a rag.
Olga VB
Yes, I also do not like open shelves, and not only in the kitchen. Anya just asked about open shelves there.
Mari_M
Tanya-Fanya, Ikeevskaya for some reason does not open for me.
Here I downloaded pro100 I'll do it on it and throw it off here, maybe there will be some flaws
Anna67
Quote: Anna1957
Anna67, come to the topic "his majesty renovation"
Something we thought there and there is.On the other hand, the question is borderline, it seems like repair, but it seems like furniture ... But for that topic, the problem is how to hang this picture from glass ...
Quote: Olga VB
Your current is not enough for you?
Oh little, this Travola (dryer) has nowhere to hide. I'll take a look at Ikeev's furniture, but in recent years it has become absolutely no choice in terms of choice.
Quote: lga
Open shelves under the ceiling are almost suicide.
Exactly, but enough dirt accumulates in closed cabinets.
Ol, yes, I did not ask about the open ones, I have only one 20cm wide embrasure left open (it did not appear in the first photo), and the end one is also already closed.
Here is a photo of the second wall. Furniture for kitchen
Because of these end and angular, it turns out that everything is invented with them does not look except to repeat the line. At least from the brown cabinet to the left of the stove to the jamb. Or from the corner of the wall where the refrigerator is and again to the jamb. Otherwise it is not logical.
And where was my head when I liked that end cabinet so much that I would make the bottom one the same, but PMM did not give it?
I'm going to scold my husband so that the cabinet right from the stove outweighs. Alive it is still nothing, but in the photo it is completely crooked. By the level, you see, did you hang
Olga VB
In the corner, if all the same the uppermost shelves in depth are greater, you can make a regular corner, not a diagonal.
About IKEA. You just wanted white there, so why do you need a special choice? There are matte and glossy ones, and sizes are different, including angular ones. And the enclosures can be reshaped like hotzza. And cut in the exhaust pipe.
Incidentally, you can have a row there and make it over the deer, that is, extend it to the right wall. Wow, how much will fit! But over the door, perhaps, it will already be crushing.
It will be necessary to estimate the first purchased lockers, and then, if you like, buy in addition.
Anna67
Olga VB, there the wall is not very much, above the door there is a mezzanine at all. And so, at least around the entire perimeter of the kitchen, you can hang it. I already thought about the usual passed pawn and not the diagonal, but this is really only if the depth is done more ...
Quote: Olga VB
so why do you need a special choice?
now there seems to be no need, but then I did not even find the facades of the required size.
Eh, repairs have to be done in the bathroom, but I "quickly change the facades." My husband threatens to collect and paint everything from gypsum plasterboard or from old cabinets, I'm already terrified, he will paint this ... In general, there is no need to rush here, I lived without a third and until the picture goes on I will live.
Bijou
Anna67, and this "exclusive" butt end cannot be demolished at all, dropping in its place normal from the collection from future tops?
kolobashka
Bijou, poked, poked, does not work.
Anna67
Bijou, that is, white?
I think not very much, so I have these white columns stove + hood and refrigerator from floor to top, and here is a strange piece ... It is very close to the jamb, I didn't want a straight wardrobe there. And then it would be more logical to demolish both by 20 and an exclusive by 40 cm to hang with a width of 60.
Already in general I think not to limit this antesol to an angle? Starting with the cabinet to the left of the stove and ending with the first brown one behind the glass diagonal? Of course, the area will not increase much, but the pipe will be closed both by the gas one and from the hood, which is "temporarily in recirculation mode". As I imagined that from the door immediately the cabinets were almost to the ceiling and something immediately became cramped for me ...
Oh, I haven't thrown away the furniture boxes yet, you can hang a model from them and see what happens.

kolobashka well replace the faucet? Now there is a choice with a shower, I saw more than one model when I was looking for a tap with a filter. I don't want to change mine, I'd rather change the sink later for a bigger one, it's cheaper than a tap.

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