Tanya-Fanya
Vinochek, I suggest you use the planner on the Ikea website. Several options can be saved there. Arrange cabinets in 10 cm increments. This does not mean that you need to buy in Ikea. This planner was very useful to me when planning my kitchen.
Vinochek
forgot about Ikea. Thank you. I'm going to try now.
Tanya-Fanya
Vinochek, try to build your entire room in this planner, that is, both the kitchen and the living room. I think it's important to catch the view of the kitchen from the living room. This will allow you to hide the most working fragments, for example, a sink, in an invisible part.
Anna1957
I would like to know the opinions about roller blinds. What constructions are worth paying attention to, which ones should be discarded immediately. I have both window sashes open, glass with an athermal film. The neighboring house is close enough, so curtains will be needed in the evening. In the kitchen, most likely, only rolled ones will be, since the window sill is combined with the countertop.
Chamomile
I have such Furniture for kitchen
It is hung on the window frame. It is glass that closes very well, no cracks, nothing is visible from the outside in the windows. But I have a transparent one, not quite like tulle, but the light is very transparent. If you need darkening, then you need to look at some other characteristics of the curtain itself. Very comfortable with her. Hangs up easily. You need to take a size slightly larger than the size of the glass. I have a technique on the windowsill, it is convenient to use, nothing interferes. It is not convenient only in summer, in the very heat, when the window is fully open, but it gets dark late in such heat, so it does not bother much. In extreme cases, you can do as Irsha advised, hang some light handkerchief on the hooks from Fixprice.
Loksa
Anna1957, Anya, show me your united windowsill? Is it right along the height of the entire tabletop? We are booming to change windows, I also want to raise the windowsill.


Added Saturday 14 Jan 2017 12:20 PM

Olga, and how is such a curtain attached to the frame?
kseniya D
I have a cassette type in my bedrooms. The roll is closed in a cassette and guides are attached to the sides. For bedrooms I took full black out, so due to the guides, the light does not penetrate at all (the slightest light bothers me a lot). They look very neat, choosing a color, drawing is not a problem. Again, due to the fact that they are closed less dust. They have been working for 6 years without any complaints.
Furniture for kitchen
This photo is not mine.
Ljna
Chamomile1, Olya, the same in the search. how is the curtain attached?
kseniya D
Quote: Loksa
Is it right along the height of the entire tabletop? We are booming to change windows, I also want to raise the windowsill.
Oksana, if there is an opportunity, then we should do it. It is very comfortable. I did that too.


Added Saturday 14 Jan 2017 12:33 PM

Rolls like Olya showed to be fastened very simply, you don't even need to drill anything. They come with hooks that are simply thrown on top of the sash and a roll is attached to them. look somewhere at 3 minutes.

Loksa
Ksenia, fotny, pliz and windowsill, I want to see how it looks.
Tyngysohka
I have a kitchenette of 5 sq. m., therefore, the table is combined with the windowsill. On the window are roller blinds of cassette type. Attached to the frame with special Velcro. Hold on very tight. You just can't pick it off
Furniture for kitchen
Chamomile
Girls, Xenia has already answered. They are attached very easily. Easy to move. I just liked that nothing is drilled and you can fix it not to the wall, but to the window frame itself and without holes
Anna1957
Quote: Chamomile1
You need to take a size slightly larger than the size of the glass.
How much is a little?
I already watched the video, I understood.
Chamomile
Anna1957, there is a step of 10 cm at the curtains, based on the size of your glass. I have 5 cm more, it seems. Without damage, they can be cut a little along the edge, made narrower.The main thing is that it goes slightly beyond the size of the glass and does not interfere with the fastening of the handles.
In the store I was advised to measure the width of the glass and take a little more than my size. It was either less or more.
kseniya D
Oksana, here you can see what level our windowsills are, and how much the kitchen is raised.

Furniture for kitchen
Furniture for kitchen
Anna1957
Chamomile, yeah, there is 3cm + to the width of the glass.
Loksa
Tyngysohka, Checkmark, okay, I liked it. Ksyusha, beautifully! You have a big kitchen! It turns out that the window should be reduced? Even I swim in it.
Anna1957
Which fabric is more comfortable in terms of quality? And one more thing: better with a cassette at the top, where is the curtain going? Or without her?
Chamomile
Anna1957, measured, window 44-45 cm, curtain 50 cm.


Added Saturday 14 Jan 2017 1:05 PM

I have no cassette, I save on everything. Just the roll hangs and that's it. The fabric is not quite fabric, it is tough, it keeps its shape, it doesn't get dirty. On the windowsill there is a cartoon, a bread machine and a food processor. The glass is much dirtier. Truly constantly. The curtain is clean. I rubbed the carrots, a piece hit the curtain - nothing, not a speck, it dried up, I knocked it off with my fingernail. As nothing happened.
Anna1957
Quote: Loksa

Anna1957, Anya, show me your united windowsill? Is it right along the height of the entire tabletop? We are booming to change windows, I also want to raise the windowsill.


Added Saturday 14 Jan 2017 12:20 PM

Olga, and how is such a curtain attached to the frame?
Furniture for kitchen
You can see how close the neighboring house is (((
kseniya D
Quote: Loksa
It turns out that the window should be reduced? Even I swim in it.
Oksana, yes, the window is decreasing in height, from the side of the street below the level of the window sill there will be a white plastic panel, and from the side of the apartment foam blocks were laid.
Loksa
Girls, I understand! Thank you! There are no even these American prices, you see they are space! Personally, I don't care, the main thing is that it is warm.


Posted Saturday 14 Jan 2017 02:24 PM

Anna, Yes, the neighbors are close, we must close the windows!


Posted Saturday 14 Jan 2017 2:26 PM

Ksenia, then it will not work to lay a new one on the old window sill, we need to even higher, we will see. We must now find a company!
kseniya D
Oksana, I don't know how in your case, but I would still have to put bricks or foam blocks on the old windowsill. And since I have a locker under the windowsill, then I would have to partially cut out the old window sill, but we had a concrete one. It was easier to take it off.
Loksa
Ksenia, got it. And we have a heating battery there, and it stands for the windowsill. We will not touch it, but I want to raise the window sill so that it closes the battery. I want to use it as a table top. There will be no freestanding table in the kitchen.
kseniya D
It is clear, then you need to look at the difference in height between the countertop and the old window sill, maybe you will have to add something else? Although this is already a window measurer, you will have to tell you whether it is possible to leave the old window sill, will it not interfere with the installation of a new window?
Anna1957
Quote: Loksa

Ksenia, got it. And we have a heating battery there, and it stands for the windowsill. We will not touch it, but I want to raise the window sill so that it closes the battery. I want to use it as a table top. There will be no freestanding table in the kitchen.
Oksan, I seem to have heard that the window sill should not close the battery on top - that's why they did it before. It seems to affect the heating of the room. It is better to check with specialists.
Loksa
Anna1957, Anechka, but here I doubt it, because in this apartment where we now live, the window sills are wide and the battery is in the back. And then, what about the screens? Do they completely cover the batteries? I don't think this is critical, in any case I'll hide them, are they sticking out in the fig?


Posted Saturday 14 Jan 2017 5:15 PM

Where are your batteries? On the other side?
Anna1957
Quote: Loksa

Anna1957, Anechka, but here I doubt it, because in this apartment where we now live, the window sills are wide and the battery is in the back. And then, what about the screens? Do they completely cover the batteries? I don't think this is critical, in any case I'll hide them, are they sticking out in the fig?


Posted Saturday 14 Jan 2017 5:15 PM

Where are your batteries? On the other side?
Oksan, for what I bought - for that I sell. Itself without a clue about it. And I have no batteries, they removed it. Warm water floor from our own gas boiler.
telez
Quote: Anna1957
Oksan, I seem to have heard that the window sill should not close the battery on top - that's why they did it before. It seems to affect the heating of the room. It is better to check with specialists.

This does not affect the heating, but the windows. If the warm air does not rise up, the windows will "sweat".
Anna67
Quote: Anna1957
And I have no batteries, they removed it.
The beauty. I hate those cast-iron uglies. And to wash ...
Anna1957
Quote: Anna67

The beauty. I hate those cast-iron uglies. And to wash ...
Well, how was it not to use the opportunity to arrange a water heat-insulated floor Although it cost such a pretty penny
Anna67
Quote: Anna1957
Although it cost such a pretty penny
That is why it does not threaten me. I have blocked it up with a curbstone, somewhere with a sofa, and where with curtains and pretend that they are not there. I recently bought an air purifier out of pampering, which crawls around the apartment like a vacuum cleaner. He thought he would crawl up to us with cigarettes, it was not so: he rushed to the curtains with batteries and dug in there, stating that he had found contamination and proceeded to clean up
Loksa
Anna1957, good idea, but expensive! And I don't want a water floor, I'm afraid! downstairs neighbors! On the first floor, too.
telez, Larissa, maybe this heat flow will bypass the window sill and successfully go up, well, he simply has no other move! In any case, our windows do not fog up!
Bijou
Quote: Anna67
rushed to the curtains with batteries and dug in there, claiming that he had found contamination and proceeding to cleaning
Can he hint that it's time to clean the curtains?
* I remembered my own, I took off before the holidays - while they were hanging like little white ones, but when I took off - the guard!
telez
He (warm air), of course, will rise up, but it will be far from the windows, because of this window and "sweat". Yes, I do not pretend to be true, I just heard about this. If the windows don't sweat, that's great!
Loksa
Anna67, an interesting device, I would not have it idle!
Bijou
Oh, but you never know why they sweat .. People complain that the apartments have 20% humidity, there is nothing to sweat with. ((
And in our house the humidity is over 70 and the batteries under the windows are turned off, and the glasses are dry.
Anna67
Quote: Bijou
he hints
He's not hinting. Like two or even three years ago, I closed this window tightly with curtains and did not approach it. It's easier for me to lay it with a brick than to hang the curtains - my head is spinning right away, my back falls off ... But the windows, as the window sill was replaced, became so wobbly ... I somehow washed the windows with a vacuum cleaner, but did not touch the curtains.

But by the way, is there such a model of the cornice so that, like on hooks or something, I took off the barbell, changed the curtain and hung it up with it?
Anchic
Quote: Anna67
And the windows, as they replaced the window sill, became so wobbly ...

I need a stepladder, I stand on it when I take off the curtains and wash the window. It's scary on the windowsill - I'm afraid of heights, but we have the 8th floor.
Anna67
Anchic, it is not more convenient, you have to stretch far to the edges of the cornice, while the risk of falling even more than from the windowsill ...
Anna1957
Quote: Loksa
Anna1957, good idea, but expensive! And I don't want a water floor, I'm afraid! downstairs neighbors! On the first floor, too.
In houses with central heating, they are not allowed, because you will take on yourself someone else's hot water that you have not paid for. And I myself pay for the gas with which my water is heated.
$ vetLana
In our kitchen, there are blinds on each sash. Very comfortably. Blinds are more convenient in the kitchen, and blind roller blinds in the bedroom. IMHO.
Loksa
Well, yes, you have a boiler, it's very convenient! But I'm more afraid of leaks. There was an experience, a pipe burst, the water is hot, repairs were made. The master who installed said: pipes, lintels, gate valves - everything is designed for constant pressure. During the period of repairs, switching on and off, it exploded, maybe there was a blow, maybe a pipe defect, I don't know!


Posted Saturday 14 Jan 2017 8:07 PM

I'm wondering, in the case of a window and a countertop, what color of the window sill is preferable if I don't know what the kitchen countertop will be?
Anna1957
Quote: $ vetLana
Blinds are more convenient in the kitchen
And why?
And what should be the price of roller blinds? I have looked so far only in 1 firm - it turns out for 1 sash my length and width - 3200. Well, x2. Measurement. delivery, installation is free. Based on this, it should be cheaper somewhere. We should probably look at Ikea.
ksyusha1997
Anna1957Anna, if memory serves, my sister bought at Leroy, she is very happy and the price is quite adequate.
IwOlga
Anna, look in Ozone.
Chamomile
Anna1957, they are on ozone, in Yulmart they are. I bought in our retail regular store. I went behind the cornices, and there are such roller blinds. And so they lay in my bookmarks in Yulmart. Only at that time I could not place an order, they counted the warehouse and suspended orders for some goods. I bought it right away in retail, the color is a little different, I wanted orange, they were not on sale. I bought light yellow, the color is yellow-beige, or dirty yellow, I don't know how to describe it, neutral, light, it shines through in the light in a light yellow, pleasant color.
Anna1957
I would like to touch the live boutiques with my hands. Yes, probably, it is worth looking at Leroy, and then I will orient myself on the prices.
kseniya D
In Leroy it is cheaper than in Ikea and easier to mount. Ikeevsky must be fastened to the frame. Anyway, a year ago, when I bought it for the living room, it was so.
Anna1957
This means that my path lies in Leroy.

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