gawala
Quote: Rarerka
Why is it necessary to hide it? I just can't understand this moment
We are just talking about it ..
Rarerka
Yes she glued right on the lockers It is sticky on one side
Belka13
I have thin wires from the LED strip that lead to the adapter for switching the voltage and to the wiring. The adapter lies quietly on the top cabinet and does not interfere. Since my kitchen window is small and faces north, and the sink is in the corner, this lighting helps a lot.
gawala
Quote: Rarerka
There are tiny bulbs.
LEDs are special, .. it's probably not very good to call them light bulbs ..: But I know what it is about and I know how they look .. but there are not enough words to describe it ..
Rarerka
Quote: Belka13
lies quietly on the top cabinet and does not interfere
Yeah, I also live there somewhere. Maa small box, nobody can see it


Added Wednesday 28 Sep 2016 09:38 AM

Quote: gawala
they are probably not very good to call them light bulbs.
Well, how? I picked up a word to somehow denote it. After all, it is clear what I said By the way, the LEDs (bulbs) themselves are also of different sizes. And larger and less often on the tape, and more often and smaller
gawala
Quote: Rarerka
I picked up a word to somehow denote it.
So I don't know how to call them correctly. Well, fick with them, let them be light bulbs ..
Quote: Rarerka
also come in different sizes. And larger and less often on the tape, and more often and smaller
aha, there are different. industrial, household ...
Rarerka
Galina,

We only had different houses. Both are white, but shone differently. In the kitchen I now even have no silicone. She’s soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, I heard out of the corner of my ear that the men were counting on something to make the brightness good
Anna1957
As I understand it, these tapes are adhesive and can be attached to holders. They are suitable for rooms with different humidity levels. The switches can be arranged in different ways too. They can be powered by mains and batteries. We will investigate further. The only thing, they say, is that the light hits the eyes not standing at the work surface, but sitting at the dining table at that moment.
The color is white, warm and cold with varying intensity, or it can switch to 5 different colors (but this is absolutely not necessary in the kitchen).
Rarerka
Quote: Anna1957
sitting at this moment at the dinner table
Anh, I just understood. We have norms with this case

About LED lighting. We also have LEDs overhead light. Two luminaires of 10 watts. We tried on where to build them in ... Attached to the wall and turned on. There was a projeektoooor! As a result, they attached it to the ceiling (they cut it into a hinged wooden flush - a wooden house), and a chandelier in the center of the dining area now hangs for beauty
Now the lighting is sufficient, and these "projectors" quite do not hit, eyes do not get tired and do not even notice the LEDs. What I mean ... On the tape, the LEDs are also directed downward, and not at the seated one. They do not interfere with the eyes (at least in our country). The tape is glued to the bottom of the cabinets, two centimeters from the wall
Bijou
Quote: Rarerka
Yes, she does not hit in the eyes. There are tiny bulbs.
This is as long as the eyes are healthy.) We have two monitors - on a lamp and on diodes. If for the first I can sit for at least a day, then for the second two hours is my physical limit. And after that, "photophobia" begins - the rays from any lamp, even those falling on the retina strongly from the side, begin to irritate. I don’t understand at all why it’s necessary to strain the eyes so much, because their adaptive capabilities are not unlimited, and the eye must simultaneously process zones that are very different in brightness. If anyone understands at all what I'm talking about. Well, as it is difficult for the camera to work in one frame at the same time both very bright and very dark areas, so the tired eye starts to work somehow so "roughly", overstraining itself in an attempt to behave "as it should". ((
Tanya-Fanya
Quote: Bijou
This is as long as the eyes are healthy.)
=100000000000000
Anchic
Quote: Bijou
We have two monitors - on a lamp and on diodes. If for the first I can sit for at least a day, then for the second two hours is my physical limit.

And I have the opposite. I could not sit at the CRT, I was annoyed by the flickering of the screen. And LCD - everything is fine, eyes do not get tired. Although you cannot call them healthy - myopia has been around for many years.
Bijou
Quote: Anchic
And I have the opposite.
This means that you are a unique user.) I met a lot of reviews that after switching monitors to diodes, my eyes began to get tired more. (

I don't remember about CRT anymore, although the first one was once, yes, it was also like that. Only he was 100 hertz.
Should I look, is the flickering frequency of the diodes higher or lower?

In short, be that as it may, and everyone chooses for himself, but if there is a chance to make life easier for his eyes, then I prefer to use this - put on a ceiling lamp and a table lamp, and block the kitchen light from my pupils.
Anna67
Quote: svetta
my trash door opens from right to left.
I also had a bucket of barbantia hanging on the door like that. In addition to the fact that in the right one is usually garbage, the location of the sink itself, which is adjacent to the corner cabinet, affected. Further, the stove and despite the fact that the stove is rarely used, it was somehow more comfortable to peel vegetables facing it, and not with your ass in the corner ... Now, under the sink, the chopper and where to hang the bucket have not even been decided.

Backlighting. At first I thought about something solid, but I bought a new chandelier with five bulbs without shades. It is light as it became already from three. But probably expensive. I. I realized that white is not for me, as a decor, let it light up the dishes, but not the desktop.
Anna1957
Quote: Anna67
I realized that white is not for me, as a decor, let it light up the dishes, but not the desktop.
And what kind of desktop to light then?
Anna67
We'll have to look for yellow strips that give a warm light, calculate the power of the adapter.

How clever I wanted to have a couple of these panels on scotch tape and limit myself to one where I most often cook, the second at the sink, and the hood shines between them. Bad, but at least something. Although the first thing I bought is a profile, and now it also hung on the calculations. I understand one, I will read about the second, I have already forgotten about the first. And the calculations will now have to be built based on what width the profile was purchased.

By the way, it seemed to me not convenient to hang up against the wall - the area that they visit seemed to be too small. So I'm still happy that I have the opportunity to drag the socket back and forth, even if it is white, and then hang it on the same tape or metal fasteners in the right place. At least in the bottom cabinet.
zvezda
Anya !! Hello: friends: I have had such lamps attached to the lower facade for a very long time. Divided on purpose .... one above the corner and the second above the second segment, because you never know what and on what technique you will do. On each there is a switch and on one more-1 socket and on the second as much as 2 !! Conveniently creepy: girl_love: bought in Domovoy, though sooooo long time ago
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Furniture for kitchen
Anna1957
Zdarof, the midnight Apple cleaner cleaned up Yes, it's convenient with sockets, I agree. Does it shine in the eyes with this arrangement, if you sit on the couch? And you have an old version - fluorescent lamps?
Lisichkalal
Quote: Rarerka
She's sticky on one side
Great, that sticky!
Quote: Rarerka
By the way, the LEDs themselves (bulbs) are also of different sizes. And larger and less often on the tape, and more often and smaller
I looked at the assortment in our Leroy, it differs from the Russian one. LEDs are sparsely located on strips and some sort of dot effect is obtained, as it seemed to me.
🔗
louisa
Anna1957, I may have missed, but you did not consider the spotlights above the work table? And if the kitchen is at the planning stage, then the upper kitchen cabinets are made in such a way as to hide such fluorescent lamps behind the facade, then they are not visible, but just the cabinets seem to be illuminated beautifully
Anna1957
Quote: louisa

Anna1957, I may have missed, but you did not consider the spotlights above the work table? And if the kitchen is at the planning stage, then the upper kitchen cabinets are made in such a way as to hide such daylight lamps behind the facade, then they are not visible, but just the cabinets seem to be illuminated beautifully
I didn't understand how, but I no longer need beauty, but the functionality of this light - sufficient (not excessive) brightness and no shadow from the hands.
Tanya-Fanya
Quote: louisa
upper kitchen cabinets are made in such a way as to hide such fluorescent lamps behind the facade,

Louise, please explain this point.
We hang the upper cabinets close to the wall. I tortured the master so that there were no cracks on the side, so that he would perfectly align the walls for me.
fugaska
Quote: zvezda
Anya !! Hello. Such lamps have been attached to the lower facade for a very long time. Divided on purpose .... one above the corner and the second above the second segment, because you never know what and on what technique you will do. On each there is a switch and on one more-1 socket and on the second as much as 2 !! Conveniently creepy bought in the Brownie, though sooooo a long time ago

ooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, that talking kitchen I flew by this year with Peter, but next year I will definitely go!
and there, in the kitchen, nothing new appeared? speaker
louisa
Quote: Tanya-Fanya
Louise, please explain this point. We hang the upper cabinets close to the wall. I tortured the master so that there were no cracks on the side, so that he would perfectly align the walls for me.
Tatyana, this is a question for furniture makers, I was initially asked if I need lighting under the upper cabinets, in this case they slightly raise the "floor" of the cabinets and fix the lamps in the niche formed, so the lamps themselves are not visible, only light
Bijou
Quote: louisa
in this case, they slightly raise the "floor" of the cabinets and fix lamps in the niche that has formed
Here! This is exactly what I understood, I even wanted to ask "why are they drowned there?")) It turns out that by reducing the volume of the lockers. ((
Anna1957
And we decided to increase the length of the facade by 3 cm (we are just going to order), and not to reduce the size of the cabinet.
Bijou
Quote: Anna1957
And we decided to increase the length of the facade by 3 cm
Why is that?)
Anna1957
Quote: Bijou

Why is that?)
To hide a stream of light beating into the eye of a seated person.
Stebovich
You can hide the LED strip behind the lower cornice. More suitable for classic cuisine. Usually, when designing, it is offered.
Furniture for kitchen

If the kitchen is in a modern style or is already ready, then you can use a special profile for the LED strip. It is only 6 mm high, i.e. almost invisible. It helps to remove heat from the LEDs, as their overheating can cause damage and also scatters light through the milky insert.
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Bijou
Quote: Anna1957
To hide a stream of light beating into the eye of a seated person.
Come on .. Weight the doors because of such a trifle? IMHO, irrational. (By the way, a slightly submerged plinth just adds harmony, echoing with the plinth at the furniture legs (if there is one, of course). When I work actively, I generally practice to keep the entire lower tier of cabinets open - there are spices, there are dishes, there is cereal, there is something else ... So that every time with dirty hands do not touch the handles and do not waste time on opening. optimist I am a quitter, what can you take from me?
lega
Quote: S-t
You can hide the LED strip behind the lower cornice.
Of course you can, but you can just make the doors a little longer. The question is the price. For additional cornice, fasteners for it and installation work, you need to pay more than for elongated facades, and the result is identical.
Bijou
Quote: lga
The question is the price. For additional cornice, fasteners for it and installation work, you need to pay more
They put them in two kitchens - they never took extra money for this. Although on one it is even plastic in the aluminum edge to match the doors.
Anna67
Quote: S-t
you can use a special profile
So I bought it across my father, that is, without choosing the ribbon itself. I hid it away and I don't remember how wide it is :))) I will find it and choose it based on the experience I have already got.
I chose the depth so that the light did not fall into my eyes, it turned out something about two cm from the edge.At the table while cooking, no one sits anyway, and if they do, then they are buried in newspaper smartphone screen.

Many useful little things from this topic not only did not come to mind, but were noticed late. Otherwise, one of the cabinets would definitely be altered into drawers, despite the fact that 60cm is not enough for this and would not go on about her husband, who would certainly want to keep the corner cabinet with a turntable.
The problem is that the "repair" did not start from scratch, but in order to replace the facades damaged over the years, ready-made washing cabinets were bought, which turned out to be much more budgetary than the manufacture of facades, and would have ended long ago if it were not for the problems that pop up out of the blue: when replacing the mixer an extra tile cracked on the tabletop, instead of hanging a small picture on the dowel (for access to the water supply in case of need), I had to buy a huge picture on the glass, they almost skinned it. The tiles and walls are crooked, the width of the picture is not a multiple of the width of the tile. It hung again and I don’t know what to do, it’s not up to the light and I need it exactly where the gas and water sockets are :)))
louisa
I will brag about my kitchen, or rather not my daughter, but my project
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Furniture for kitchen
Bijou
louisa, smartly!
The floor is very beautiful.

Why is there a drawer under the oven to match the upper cabinets, and not the lower ones?
Anna67
Wow, this is a refrigerator
louisa
Bijou, yes, there on the facade the edge came off, was taken for alteration


Added on Friday 30 Sep 2016 03:36 PM

Anna67, small in another corner, only 160 cm
Anna67
louisa, and at first I took the cabinet for the refrigerator, what is there in it for the window? Then I saw the little one and I think how good two refrigerators are, otherwise I don’t know where to attach a 5 liter barrel for cabbage
louisa
Quote: Anna67
what is there in it outside the window?
for a microwave, and a small refrigerator is enough for one student
Twig
louisa, wall panel from what?
Very beautiful
louisa
kollyuba, laminated mdf
Umka
louisa, UMNICHKA !!! You made a cool repair for your Girl !!!
Anna1957
Handsomely. Is your daughter happy? Ventshakhta was well bypassed. I remember talking about the sofa. Refused?


Added Friday 30 Sep 2016 8:07 PM

Quote: Bijou
And what happens, opened the door - got it in the eyes?
The eyes of the one who stands and opens the door are above the tape, so I didn't get it. He will not get it without lengthening the facade. We are talking about those who are sitting at the dinner table at this moment.
zvezda
Anya!! It does not shine!! Yes, daylight option .. but very comfortable !!
Mine mine!!! I miss you dear: cray: hope to see you next year !!! : drinks_milk: Only I am the speaker!
kirch
Quote: Bijou
I practice keeping the entire lower tier of cabinets open
So I have - not everything, but the doors are open when cooking, including the one with the trash bin
Midnight lady
How do you get between the open doors? After all, you have to go to the sink, whatever one may say ... even from above, the open ones annoy me, and I'm not even talking about the lower ones))
Bijou
I talked about the top. They rise quite high, I can't reach them with my head, they don't have to block the light from the bulbs, so I just have everything I need in free access, without spending money on unnecessary opening.
Midnight lady
Bijou, well, well, the top ones are okay, especially if the doors do not open to the side. Now I know one of the reasons for such opening of the upper cabinets, they always seemed extremely inconvenient to me, and that's why people make such doors.
Bijou
Quote: Midnight lady
Now I know one of the reasons for such opening of the upper cabinets, they always seemed extremely inconvenient to me, and that's why people make such doors.

But swinging ones seem very uncomfortable to me.
My son once lived in a rented apartment with such wardrobes. He says he swore at everything and everyone, beating his whole head with open doors - he seemed to reach for one trifle and did not close it, because he would have to take something else right there. Turned away, turned around - you will get it, sir, in the forehead.

And it was almost a pure experiment, because he is not very familiar to my kitchen, because he does not really know the way there.) That is, you can not say that he was just used to my cabinets.
Anna67
It depends on the layout, I cling or bump against the door handles much more often, or I fit my forehead into an old hood with sharp corners until I was replaced and outweighed higher. But I remember the habit of my relatives to warn each other about the open doors of the buffet.

So the cabinets are a trifle for us, but I want to remove the doors.I was very surprised when I read somewhere here that it is impossible to remove the door in the kitchen.

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