Wit
Above the radiator, there is a 30 cm wide table top that runs along the entire window sill. Already 10 years old. The windows have never fogged up, the heat is very good from the battery.

Anya, fix the mistake, otherwise I will complain in the topic "РЯ"
Anna1957
Quote: Wit
Anya, fix the mistake, otherwise I will complain in the topic "RYa"
Which one? Stick it. pliz.
Wit
I almost bought it. Cunning!
Anna1957
Quote: Wit

I almost bought it. Cunning!
Yes, stick it
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Anna1957, Anya, the blinds regulate the luminous flux, they can be turned (horizontal) so that the sun does not shine in your eyes. They can be raised if you need to illuminate part of the room. They are more flexible than solid rolls.


Added Saturday 14 Jan 2017 09:28 PM

If interested, I can take a picture.
Anna67
$ vetLana, but for sure.
It never occurred to me. Probably because I have only two positions - it is closed and never opens or it does not exist at all
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Anna67, judging by my friends, very few people use such a convenient thing. We made the same blinds in our country house.
Anna67
Until now, most people were generally convinced that the blinds are purely office blinds. So my mother would not understand this, and I am not used to the blinds at home either ...
Anna1957
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they can be rotated (horizontal) so that the sun does not shine in your eyes. They can be raised if you need to illuminate part of the room.
I will have an athermal film glued to the glass, in the daytime it absorbs the sun's rays and heat, and from the outside it reflects like a mirror. The curtain is needed only in the evening, when the lights are on in the room, and it is dark outside so that I cannot be seen.
Olga VB
And I have interframe blinds in all windows ...
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Anna1957, Anya, does this film stick to the glass? Does it absorb a lot of light? She has a different absorption coefficient, as far as I remember. We considered this option for a summer residence.
Anna1957
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Anna1957, Anya, does this film stick to the glass? Does it absorb a lot of light? She has a different absorption coefficient, as far as I remember. We considered this option for a summer residence.
I already have it glued to the lower floor of the panoramic glazing of the loggia. I want both to the top floor in the loggia (which is part of the room) and to the kitchen. I do not know what her coefficient is, my masters bought at their own discretion.
Loksa
Anna, but this toning lowers natural light? Probably yes. I have seedlings, I light it up, I can’t nourish it. If only, as a temporary phenomenon, so that you can remove.
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I wonder how comfortable it is with her. I was afraid it would be dark in the room. After all, we have the sun only in spring and summer.
Anna1957
I’ll know when I’ll start living there. If you don't like it, I'll delete it. But I read the reviews - people like it. I have a south side, in the summer there is a lot of sun.
kseniya D
I had both vertical and horizontal blinds. Now horizontal in the workshop. Here you enter a room and immediately some kind of office, not at all home furnishings. (A room in the apartment is reserved for a workshop). The rolls look more home-like, softer.
Bijou
Quote: Loksa
I'm wondering, in the case of a window and a countertop, what color of the window sill is preferable if I don't know what the kitchen countertop will be?
That is, you want a separate window sill and a separate table top? More often, a tabletop is simply brought under the window. And we also. Moreover, we have the width of the tabletop under the window in general, almost more than a meter, probably. And the window is crooked at one corner. And one edge lies on the sloping wall, which is the ceiling of the basement stairs. And nothing, the masters sawed out on the first try.
kseniya D
Of course, you need to make both the tabletop and the window sill a single material.Why unnecessary color spots?
Loksa
Bijou, Lena, Ksenia, I have a window at the end of the kitchen, the walls on the sides are not very large. There will be a refrigerator to the right, to the left of the window I want to put a gas stove (there is a riser of some kind and a 30 cm wall is the simplest stove and hood) Therefore, there will be no continuation of the window sill-table, it seems to me it will not be bad. I must say right away that I opened this calculator-layout of the kitchen from Ikea, but "slapped my eyelashes" at it. The first thing we will do is change the windows, so I want to decide on the window sill. Either a sharp unusual contrasting color, or a very common one that is as similar as possible.
kseniya D
Oksana, and what's the point then for you to raise it?
A freestanding gas stove or built-in? If it is built-in, then the tabletop can be one with the window sill.
Anna1957
Loksa, and you throw a photo of the kitchen, maybe we can come up with a thread together.
Tanya-Fanya
Loksawhat is 30 cm? Plate???
eye
Quote: Olga VB

And I have interframe blinds in all windows ...
we have only in the kitchen, for the eighth year now - very comfortable both in the evening and from the sun.
Loksa
Ksenia, I raise it to use it as a table-top, maybe something will stand there, or maybe just as a "table".Anna, I'll try to take a photo, at night I tried to build in Excel, but I need to specify the dimensions, then I'll show you.Tanya-Fanya.30 cm is the width of the wall, then comes the window. I'd rather show you a photo!


Added Sunday 15 Jan 2017 5:55 PM

The gas stove is freestanding, that's why I want to rearrange it in the corner to the window, because it gets very hot on the sides. between the stove and the window there will be a stub of the countertop, it seems so convenient to me. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't know? Somehow I want to scatter a sink in one corner, a stove in another, along the risers. In the middle, the furniture is standard.
Furniture for kitchen
Now the stove is almost next to the sink. There is a pencil case and a hole by the window. Pencil case closes the window, not convenient.
The sink is also in the corner, but here everything will depend on the freezer, if it is vertical, then I will leave the corner sink. And if the freezer is horizontal, then the sink will be slightly shifted to the center. If we want a table, we will put it instead of a sofa.
Anna67
Loksa, and not too far from the sink from the stove? I have never seen them so carried apart, especially if the width is 8.4 meters and the scale is respected ... I am so used to the fact that you can reach the stove and sink at the same time without leaving the place (they are on different sides of the corner). It is so convenient for me to remove the foam and directly into the sink, and wash the stove, especially the gas.
Or 8.4 is the area ...
Bijou
An amazing plan.) If you plan to use a window sill instead of a table, then sit right on the path from the stove to the refrigerator, or what?
Loksa
Anna67, 8.4 is the area, I have not measured it yet, and there is nothing sensible in those passports.


Added Sunday 15 Jan 2017 7:15 PM

Lena, not quite sitting, can put: oops: scattered because of the risers. Any other furniture must be cut out. How will it be better? on the other side it is not very good to put furniture, in any case, I do not see it yet.
Not to scale, the kitchen is an elongated rectangle.
Ljna
Loksa, Oksana, on the windows, what will happen? tulle, curtains, blinds?
I have from the window / wall to the gas. slabs 58 cm.


Added Sunday 15 Jan 2017 7:21 PM

measure the length and width with a tape measure, if not, with a centimeter tape
Loksa
Anna67, don't you think you need to put a stove in the corner?
Zhenya, There will be such curtains on hooks on the windows by the glass itself. The window is deep.
Tanya-Fanya
Anna67-Annechka, I agree with you.
Loksa-Oksanochka, there is such an ergonomic rule for the kitchen - the triangle rule:

-took (from the refrigerator)
- put (next to the tabletop)
- washed (in the sink)
- cut (next to the countertop)
- cooked (next to on the stove)

This, of course, is an ideal rule, but you need to strive for this in order to minimize fatigue in the kitchen and create with pleasure.

Quote: Loksa
I must say right away that I opened this calculator-layout of the kitchen from Ikea, but "slapped my eyelashes" at it. The first thing we will do is change the windows, so I want to decide on the window sill.
I propose to open it again, there is a sooooo convenient planner.First, measure carefully your kitchen and all the indents, spacing with pipes, the height of the ceiling, the height to the window sill, its width, the distance from it to the wall. And you will try to arrange furniture and a stove, a refrigerator. This is very clear, the picture begins to take shape right away in my head. Moreover, you have in the city of Ikea.

In any case, you must first decide on the project of kitchen furniture, because it also comes in different heights. Otherwise, you run the risk of not guessing with the height of the window sill and the table top will not connect with it.

And on the occasions of the stove. why is it warming up on the sides? Isn't that a very young gas stove? I recently parted with an old gas stove, I just could not believe that the built-in electric would not heat the furniture. It turned out to be all class!
I would not put the stove in a corner because a work surface is needed around the stove. A simple example: you are frying pancakes, there is a container with dough under your right hand, and at this time you need to get a chicken out of the oven. Where to? Move the container with the dough somewhere? Nooo, the chicken in the hot baking sheet can be placed to the left of the cooking area.

And finally, on your plan, please place the dimensions. And then the area is 8.4 square meters, and in the picture from the stove to the sink there is a lot of space. Sink 60 cm, stove 60 cm (usually).
Loksa
I'll measure it on Tuesday, we don't live there. It's all about the stove, precisely because it gets very hot and the furniture next to it deteriorates. It is recommended to place the stove at a distance, but where to run away? Then I noticed that on the sides of the slabs there are such small lockers with exit mechanisms, so I caught fire to move it to the window. I will fence off other furniture with such a mechanism, and from the window .... will I come up with a bottom, a narrow piece of the top of the tabletop?


Added Sunday 15 Jan 2017 07:31 PM

Tatyana, we also recently changed the stove, it is heating up, an infection! But we have circumstances: a 50/50 stove, this is a very small choice, believe me! And the old one was with thermal insulation, and the new one finally "about nothing" is empty.
I will take everything into account, I will take measurements.
Anna67
Quote: Loksa
I will take everything into account, I will take measurements.
Better to do this and work on a scale. And even so it is difficult for you to understand what is where and how far. About the stove by the window - won't the window get very dirty, is the ventilation good? I don't remember how deep my stove is, although it is on a par with the 60cm countertop, but it is 50cm wide. I agree that there is almost no choice. Either the oven is electric (and my wiring is old), then the color is not the same, then outwardly you will not like it ...
Olga VB
Loksa, Oksana, how many centimeters do you have in a cell? It seems to me that the proportions are clearly violated ...
And which of the machinery and equipment is already there - a stove, an oven, a sink, a refrigerator, other overall dimensions, which affects the arrangement? What devices do you use? What do you keep on the countertops and what do you clean, what is the height of the window sill, slabs, if it is free-standing, etc.
Has the renovation been already done there? If not, then remember that, for example, tiles on the floor and on the walls will "eat" no less than 15mm each, and if there is preliminary alignment, it will take much more.
Good luck!
Loksa
Olga VB, Olga, there will be no repairs, there is a refrigerator, a stove, a sink, too, the rest is in search. There will definitely be a freezer, I think which one is better to take? There will be both a chest and a vertical. I also think so far. From small appliances: microwave oven, Shteba, stationary mixer. Possibly a coffee maker.
Mom had a stove by the window, and it was not bad that way.


Added Sunday 15 Jan 2017 08:10 PM

Now, if it were possible to use the surface of the chest freezer as a countertop, but my fantasies somehow fly far away, it would be ideal!
Bijou
Quote: Loksa
There will definitely be a freezer, I think which one is better to take? There will be both a chest and a vertical. I also think so far.
Tychoo ?? The chest should be shoved somewhere far away and kept in it that which is longer. And to shove this bandura into an eight-meter kitchen is not to wish yourself well. Ideally, it would be nice to buy a refrigerator and freezer of a similar design and install them side by side (won't fit the chest?). If you outweigh the door on one, you get almost side-by-side.

And do not gobble up precious space with a horizontal freezer, on which you don't even put anything.
If the refrigerator is removed to the left wall instead of the chest, then the countertop in the vacant corner can already be made with a plant under the window, space for extra drawers-shelves and a hanging wing, under which you can put chairs or stools. That is, to dine fully and without disturbing anyone. Well, or just put a table, but this is not so useful.
Anna1957
I was asking about roller blinds. Today I was in Ikea and Obi. In Ikea, only 3 colors are more expensive, and in Ob, all kinds of colors without a pattern, with a pattern, several options (I liked the type of matting), it costs quite budget: 60-cm wide - about 700r. But this is the most primitive option, without a cassette and side guides, just roll up like a roll.
kseniya D
Anna, cassettes are made to order, because you need to know exactly the size of the glass with the "glazing bead". They hang them themselves, because they are screwed to the frame and one awkward movement, and the glass will crack. In any case, I have not seen cassette cassettes on sale. But the view with them, of course, is much more accurate. When they are completely open, nothing is visible on the window.
Anna1957
It will be necessary to get to Leroy, see. It's a pity that cassette cassettes are only made to order.
Here are some more chandeliers in Leroy and in the Ob.Furniture for kitchen
Furniture for kitchen
I am planning 3 shades. What to choose? Option 1 is combined in color with the facades, in shape (everything is so square-angular), but high, attached to the ceiling. Option 2 is discordant in shape (but maybe this is good), hangs down, you can adjust the length. Chandelier in the center of the kitchen.
I am waiting for opinions.
Anna67
The freezer is good, but I can’t decide what is more important to me is the pantry, the freezer or the lack of kitchen appliances in my office, which is close to the bedroom ...
Anna1957
Quote: Anna67

The freezer is good, but I can’t decide what is more important to me is the pantry, the freezer or the lack of kitchen appliances in my office, which is close to the bedroom ...
We need photos of the apartment, maybe the pantry will be able to be selected from the corridor.
Oh, I thought that I was answering Oksana, she still needs to be repaired.
Loksa
Anna, I liked the second one, if it is removed under the ceiling.
Anna1957
Quote: Loksa

Anna, I liked the second one, if it is removed under the ceiling.
It is removed, but they should still hang, not to the very ceiling.
Anna67
Anna1957, no, Anyut. You can of course put it in the "hall" next to the hallway. There used to be a second refrigerator there, and the freezer is not so often in demand. But I don't want that next to the bedroom.

And, I have already voiced another option somewhere, to remove the wardrobe from the dressing room, since I still store there not street clothes, but flour.
Loksa
Anna, the main thing is not to cling your head!
Anna67
Quote: Anna1957
Chandelier in the center of the kitchen.
And what is under the chandelier and what is the height of the ceiling? ..
kseniya D
Quote: Anna67
And what is under the chandelier and what is the height of the ceiling? ..
Yes, I also wanted to ask this, because in the store all the chandeliers seem to be smaller in size, due to the large space and the infinite ceiling, than when they are already hanging at home. It is difficult to imagine the real size from the photo, but the latter seemed huge to me.
I liked the first option better.
Anna1957
The height of the ceiling is under 3 meters (minus the stretch ceiling), so I won't bother with my head anyway. On the contrary, I am annoyed by the fact that option 1 is attached to the ceiling. But visually, it attracts more with its shape and color.


Posted Monday 16 Jan 2017 11:33 AM

Quote: Anna67
And what is under the chandelier and what is the height of the ceiling? ..
There is free space under the chandelier.



Posted Monday 16 Jan 2017 11:36 AM

Quote: kseniya D
the latter seemed huge to me.
No, they're regular sizes. Another brown light hangs nearby - the sizes are comparable.
Wit
And the first option is exactly for apartments? Maybe there is a postscript (for a pantry, for example, or a warehouse)?
The second option looks very good.
Rarerka
Anh, if I chose from these options, I would have stopped at the second one. It looks easier
kseniya D
What is it for the pantry? Very much even for an apartment. If there were more sconces to hang on the wall, it would be super.
It all depends on taste preferences.

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