Furniture for kitchen

but small (128, but I need 192).

So I was tortured then to look for exactly the same, but without buttons

[when assembling, there should be space between the kitchen wall and the back wall of the kitchen furniture]

The only thing, when assembling, there should be space between the kitchen wall and the back wall of the kitchen furniture... This is the so-called technical indentation. That is, there should be a large gap behind the wall of the kitchen furniture to the kitchen wall. As it were, for pipes and other technical needs. Check out the kitchens from the economy class series.

Olga, so it is about this and speech. I understand that when cutting, for example, a 3m sheet in width, standard 56 cm, you get 5 sets, with 45-48 cm - 6 sets. This is a big difference for production. I understand the meaning of such tables. Savings too. Buyer's choice: "new, not expensive, albeit due to reduced depth" also understand.
I don’t understand the assemblers why they didn’t push the entire set away from the wall and bring the leading edge along the edge of the countertop. Yes, at the end you will have to close this void, but it seems to me that it will be more convenient to use the kitchen.

I found it in Boyard, on Mon I will call to clarify.

[Chamomile1]

Chamomile1, Yes?? What a horror .. ((

On the advice I went to the Borovichi website. I don’t know if it’s this or not, but the kitchen is from the "economy" category.


And it stands close to the wall, and the table top hangs over the facades as standard.

How does it compare to this picture?



Some kind of confusion, in short. ((

Added Saturday 19 Nov 2016 04:32 PM

Yes, at the end you will have to close this void, but it seems to me that it will be more convenient to use the kitchen.

While I was distracted, the conversation drowned further.))
IMHO, move it away, do not move it away, and if there is a third less space in the closet than it could have been, and it takes up the volume as normal, then such a model. ((Narrow ones are needed if the kitchen is tiny or narrow. And so normal people even under the cabinets over there, the drawers are fitted with ikey ones, because it's a pity for the disappearing place, while there are a lot of little things for stowing.)) And here, consider, 15 cm x 85 x the length of the kitchen disappears completely.

I went to measure the metaboxes in the depths. 46 cm at the bottom of the clean space. This is convenient. And I would like even more.

I have 50 deep, the super economy class is nowhere to go.
But it's a problem to close the space, I was such a fool that I sawed off the countertop almost flush with the cabinet, so that the overhead panel (and they seem to be the same 1.6 cm now can not be attached. The old cabinet had a plug so I did not think. - so there are a lot of joints in height there 600, but somewhere around 850 is needed. The option of a thin wall remains, but even then it is not a fact that it will fit in, and they are sold at 3 meters.

Ladies! Just don't laugh too much.

Everything is fine. This is a half of a handshake. Kiwi just cut circles around the kitchen with a tape measure. By some simple conclusions ... the table top (which overhangs) needs to be moved one pedestal. Then everything is clear in size. But the beige curbstone is a DOP Curbstone, which came without a countertop under the overhead sink. That's why the color is different (because Kiwi has done it) :))) In short, the plant is well done and the kiwi family is not very good)))))))))
gave a half on the ears. Will interlock the tabletop))))

no calmness in the kiwi nest

[Kivi]

Kivi,
here you go! there is a silver lining! )))
waiting for a photo of the corrected version

waiting for a photo of the corrected version

Yeah, otherwise I still do not understand how the shift on the curbstone affects the overhang

overhanging forward - none. But on the side 30 cm - they will go away))) Overhang in front of 12 cm (the current is measured), it's convenient for me, by the way. At work, I always bruise myself on my feet with these handles, here is ideal for me

especially after two years without a kitchen

[Kivi]

Kivi, the argument under the spoiler is undeniable Well, since it is convenient to open the top drawer, then there are no questions. I would have to bend my arm somehow, tried it and didn't like it. It was I who tried to figure out how deeply I would have to order a stone countertop in the future.

[Anna67]

Anna67, I'm very small, I don't even need to bend :))))
I just got stuck in the kitchens and spied a backlight option. Prices ahem ... but a lot of interesting articles and designs

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no calmness in the kiwi nest

* strained her mind, trying to remember the look and shape of the kiwi nest *

I just got stuck in the kitchens and spied a backlight option.

And where exactly to look? )

[Kivi]

Kivi, And pull out, pzhlsta, the top drawer to the full and see how many cm will be available in it
And, by the way, if you are going to reassemble anyway, then, by the way, you will push the lower drawers out from under the countertop at least a little forward. Well, it will not be 12 cm, but 7, still more organic. Or how?
And if you are small, how will you reach the sink if it starts 14 cm or more from the edge.?

How will you reach the sink if it starts 14 cm or more from the edge?

If the invoice is easy, but these corners are on the sides ... 14 centimeters%) Although the invoices seem to be longer at the back for a "technical clearance" or not?

[Bijou]

Bijou, here's the design and down. There are many different photos from their projects.
here is the kiwi nest

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the invoice is stupidly selected according to the size of the cabinet, there is no gap (mom has this)
Olga VB, measure the size of the box? or take a picture?

here is the kiwi nest

Oh, it’s quite cozy!

There are many different photos from their projects.

Yes, but for some reason I didn’t come across a single one with illumination. Because I wanted to be specific, maybe I'm not looking there at all?

Olga VB, measure the size of the box? or take a picture?

Measure how many cm of the inside of the top drawer will be accessible from above from under the countertop and how many cm is the inside of the drawer in depth.
That is, I do not really understand how to use the top drawer with such a tabletop - feel inside to the touch?

Girls on the Internet found monolithic kitchens using American technology and fell in love, now what will my husband say to my idea. Here's an example:
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Stylized chaos?))

[Bijou]

Bijou, I probably did not choose the right picture. By definition, a kitchen monolith is a one-piece seamless structure, decorated with modern finishing materials and being part of the workspace of a cooking area. The simplest version of a kitchen monolith combines objects such as: a countertop, a sink and an apron (the back wall of the work surface).

[Tanyusha]

Tanyusha, yes, I immediately looked at what it was.) I thought that this is what I was planning in our "backyard", where we must hide the whole mass of "nuu sooo necessary little things" living outside the rooms somewhere.

If it seems convenient and aesthetically pleasing, then why not? Personally, I perceive "folk motives" in design badly, they quickly bore me, but who said that I am not mistaken?

[Tanyusha]

Tanyusha, this, in principle, is my idea, only I did not want so many seams on the tabletop, so it was made of 60x60 porcelain stoneware. The apron was not made from it, because the master thought the thickness of the tile (10mm) was too large (for me it is located on some details with its butt-end). Now I think that it could be done from it, the difference in thickness is insignificant, and the variegation is less.
And for Americans, this is a common design - when I read about such countertops, I met a lot of references to this.

If it was built now, then I would make such a kitchen

[Tanyusha]

Tanyusha, I looked at them for two years. Has cooled down.
What hooked you? Interesting

Girls on the Internet found monolithic kitchens using American technology and fell in love, now what will my husband say to my idea

Tanyusha looked at them for two years. Has cooled down.
What hooked you? Interesting

During the construction process, I also hooked up with these monolithic kitchens, downloaded and printed photos, relaxed on them while they were being built. And then I presented this monolith at the finished place and let it go.
Looks like all those under construction pass through these monoliths.

[OlgaGera]

OlgaGera, I don't even know what caught on, I just liked the idea. But they had already lowered me from heaven to earth, my husband and daughters said that this does not suit us, there is little place to turn around.

[Tanyusha]

Tanyusha, I like these, but it really needs a large area, because the division of kitchen tables is usually built from drywall. Between the doors to lay out the border with tiles - at least 10 cm.

[Tanyusha]

Tanyusha, so I thought that such a monolithic version eats up a lot of precious centimeters due to lateral calculations. A tile with a side of 10 cm after all.
Of course, in a large and spacious kitchen you can turn around and try.
However, these numerous seams, covered with contrasting grout, require very high-quality work when laying, and then periodically these seams need to be renewed, especially on horizontal lines and where there is a lot of water. A friend has a very nicely laid out countertop. But Her husband renews the grout on the entire work surface once a year.

[Tanyusha]

Tanyusha And the kitchen is large in size. Can I do it somehow

[Tanya-Fanya]

Tanya-Fanya, so mine and say that centimeters are eaten. At the expense of grouting is very strange, because I read this: two-component grout on an epoxy basis. Mold does not grow, does not absorb water, does not leave stains, in general, as strong as ceramics, can be rubbed with a brush, an iron sponge, nothing is scratched and does not fall out.
Cirre kitchen 13 m.

[Tanyusha]

Tanyusha, the grout loses its freshness! No mold.

Added Sunday 20 Nov 2016 10:15 PM

Tanyusha, in a 13-meter kitchen, a work surface and a table laid out with a Tile will look good. You can also add an element on the hood.
nice! Undoubtedly beautiful! Especially if the tiles are contrasting, for example, blue and white with white grout.

Especially if the tiles are contrasting, for example, blue and white with white grout.

So I thought I'd play with the tiles.

[Tanyusha]

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Tanyusha get cucina in muratura

[Cirre]

Cirre, wow! How tender!
You can make the lower cabinets traditional roll-out cabinets, and the apron and the countertop are supper in the photo!

Of course, in a large and spacious kitchen you can turn around and try.

I would only like this if the "kitchen" is the entire first floor of the house or half, in the second half there is a fireplace, skins, horns and candelabra. Somehow, the first thing that came to mind was summer kitchens. And Bijou thought about the backyard.
It seems that you have to be born in this and get used to such massiveness from childhood.

I would only do this if the "kitchen" is the entire first floor of the house or half, in the second half there is a fireplace, skins, horns and candelabra.

Absolutely right. In my opinion, it was also a kitchen at the castle. A purely technical, utilitarian room, where cooks in old-fashioned caps and long aprons should bustle about (I remembered Lerel's avatar) ... Looking at the interior, I also unconsciously tried to look behind the picture and see what was on the other side. Certainly not soft sofas, coffee tables and a high-tech flat TV.))

[Cirre]

Cirre, that's how we are all different.

This design reminded me of our bathroom with a bathtub embedded in white tiles. All my life I hated her fiercely, especially the simplest white tiles. It looks like a hospital, and I'm sorry, a crematorium.
But my mother, besides white and exactly tiles, could not imagine anything else.
Therefore, in the kitchen, tiles with light gray stains (I don’t like it either, especially the seam, but not up to the apron now, and will it be later?) In the toilet they converged on cream-beige, I rested that white only over my corpse. But hands did not reach the bathroom and the money ran out.And since then, my loft-style bathroom has not appeared: somewhere it was pounded up to the brick, somewhere there was cement, somewhere red sand (did the brick crumble?) There is no plafond and there was no heating, there is no heating for a long time and it is inoperative. I threw away the battery, and out of all this beauty there was already a taps, and there was already a design project, and I bought materials, and then I realized that the bathtub should be turned at least, thrown out as much as possible and everything hung. She switched to the kitchen.
And with her, thank God, I change the chandeliers, then the beds with mattresses, and this is all finances. I generally keep quiet about kitchen little things, then life is not sweet without a noodle cutter, then even without some very necessary little things like a smokehouse and a waffle iron.

in the toilet converged on a creamy beige, I rested that white only over my corpse.

Oo .. My kids are going to "paint" the toilet in black.

Childhood disease, I once also wanted black, including plumbing, at least malachite and darker. Now limited to the Azori tiles of the Agate series, which are brown with a cream top. And I found similar wall panels, I don't want tiles all around.

One of the first layout projects, the first was a completely embrasure overlooking the sea, I don't know how much it correlates with authorship, but I was tormented by the editor and the tape measure Now I have to re-count and draw once I decided to remove the bath.

While looking for the necessary pens, I came across a LIGHT PEN (with illumination, apparently). Thinking about your opinions? It seems to me more like a toy than a utilitarian meaning, isn't it?
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Didn't even understand what it turns on from? not that there is a need to illuminate the surface of the facade for 30 seconds ... If you are going to hang the power supply with Velcro, then you can more usefully hang a lamp in the closet. Previously, such point ones hung over the sink, there is little light from them, but better than nothing at all.

Didn't even understand what it turns on from?

Velcro power supply. 4 batteries "AAA" 1.5 V. There are detailed drawings on this link.
For a furniture handle, this kind of lighting ... Well, I don't know. Who likes what. For the door handle of the front door, I liked the lighting. It illuminates the keyhole well, if suddenly the light is turned off on the staircase. There are three hour batteries and an LED. Service life 5 years. Easy to change.

Yes, it’s more for beauty than business. Since the residents of St. Petersburg have pulled themselves together - where is it better to buy pens from us?

Yes, it’s more for beauty than business. Since the residents of St. Petersburg have pulled themselves together - where is it better to buy pens from us?

Anya, you can see it in Metrika, Maxidom and other mega-stores.

Anya, you can see it in Metrika, Maxidom and other mega-stores.

Well, Metrics have all gone bankrupt and closed. Nothing was pleasant about Leroy. I meant furniture fittings stores - today, for example, I learned about a chain called Europe. But, probably, wholesale from Boyard will be the most profitable of all.

[Wit]

No, Anh, some furniture came across, but there were no references left, and for the most part not for physicists. I remember only Aquilon and I don't remember what exactly.
Yeah, Metrica is a real disaster. In my area, there was a single building hyper right next door. The rest is either K-Rauta where there is never anything, or a combined hodgepodge of different sellers in one square.

Wit, no, I'm talking about something else - not from what they work, but from what these pens work? There is nothing about sensors or buttons in the description.

I was addicted to go to the Nevsky market for trifles. A household goods store has survived there since the times of the USSR. Prices, if not Soviet, but not skinny. Assortment, of course, not Maksidomovsky with a brownie, but having found a four-thread in these hyper, I go to this store and take there 100 ... 150 rubles cheaper.

Yeah, there seems to be even two of them. And also with the dishes, I'm still going to go in, but as the metro was closed and I go to work once every half a year ... These small ones are characterized by the unexpected presence of some suddenly necessary trifle; once found there legs to the closet. Only 4 pieces, but it was just enough for us to put a desktop PMM in the closet.

Before the spoiler, nothing looked like, then options appeared.But understanding why to illuminate the facade, and not the inside of the box and why 30 seconds if the micrik opens the circuit did not appear.

at the expense of lighting ... my former employee made a bed with lighting. And the kitchen. Under countertops, handles and under the kitchen floor. He is handsome in the photo (professional photos, which were then taken by the designers). In life ... ahem ... I would not even do this for an extra charge (