Furniture for kitchen

I have a little work surface, so one of the two multicooker is constantly on the table (I change it depending on the required modes) and the meat grinder is constantly sideways, I use it very often. But my meat grinder is very compact, Zelmer 686, it takes up very little space. On the loggia, on a table, there is a Brown double boiler and alternately a second cartoon or Miracle oven. The electric kettle is on the microwave.
Everything else in the closets is at hand.

[Midnight lady]

Midnight ladyAnd my sister is not the only person who, having installed a high-quality hood, is satisfied with its work and the cleanliness of the furniture and air.

And I'm wondering what kind of quality hood is it? at what price category?

[Tatyana]

Tatyana, duc induction is the same. All my life I have been cooking on a newspaper in order to clean less. This stove is already 7-8 years old, but it's still as good as new.))

You just cover the burner and the surface nearby. And simple glass ceramics is so possible? Will the newspaper light up? Bijou, you are opening America for me right now. Be proud.

[iris. ka]

iris. ka, simple is impossible, the paper will light up.
Only induction is possible, as there is no surface heating.
Bijou, Len, why the newspaper
And something more beautiful, maybe pick up: ops:

great idea! I also have induction, so I ask)

About the hood. I needed it while frying fish and cutlets in a skillet on the stove. And now I do it at Shteba. Nothing splashes, and the smell is somehow not felt. Now I use the hood only for lighting.

[Bijou]

Bijou, Lenaaaaaa, killed .... That's it, I want such a hood! Please name, abbreviations, studio sizes. I appreciate it! I sit, waiting for an answer ...

And something more beautiful, maybe pick up

Masha, I also lay under the pots and pans, but paper towels.

[kseniya D]

kseniya D, Ksyusha, take a picture of that corner on the left, under the windowsill, below the stove. What do you have hidden there? It's comfortable?

Girls, how should you choose such high-quality and cool hoods ??? What criterion? Manufacturer who ??? Thank you for your reply!!!

In my opinion, the main parameter for choosing a hood is performance.

According to sanitary standards, the entire volume of air must be changed in an hour. You can calculate the hood performance required for your kitchen using the formula: the kitchen area must be multiplied by the ceiling height, the result obtained is multiplied by 12 (the air exchange rate adopted by the SES), the result obtained is multiplied by the potential margin coefficient (equal to 1.3). So, for a kitchen with a ceiling height of 2.5 meters and an area of ​​6 meters, you need to choose a hood with a capacity of at least 234 cubic meters. m / h.

And so, depending on the installation option, the type of hood is selected (built-in, corner, over the island, etc.), which filters are in the hood and how it is planned to connect it. In my opinion, it is better to connect the hood to the general ventilation system, but if the hood is located far from the entrance to the ventilation duct or it is technically difficult to connect it without great losses, then carbon filters are often chosen and the hood works in recirculation mode.

Note that each turn of the corrugated pipe reduces its performance by
ten%. Therefore, for each turn we add 10% to the formula.

If the hood will be operated in recirculation mode (an alternative to connecting to an exhaust shaft) by installing carbon filters, then 30% should be added to the calculated power.

Ksyusha, take a picture of that corner on the left, under the windowsill, below the stove. What do you have hidden there?

It looks like an airfryer ... I was already sitting here almost with binoculars, trying to make out.

[According to sanitary standards, the entire volume of air must be changed in an hour.]

According to sanitary standards, the entire volume of air must be changed in an hour.... You can calculate the hood performance required for your kitchen using the formula: the kitchen area must be multiplied by the ceiling height, the result obtained is multiplied by 12 (the air exchange rate adopted by the SES), the result obtained is multiplied by the potential margin coefficient (equal to 1.3). So, for a kitchen with a ceiling height of 2.5 meters and an area of ​​6 meters, you need to choose a hood with a capacity of at least 234 cubic meters. m / h.

Here is the highlighted - correct. And everything else is bullshit, I'm sorry.))

Because these sanpin requirements refer in this document not to hoods, which work only when the owners are preparing something, but by ventilation... Actually a hood can't set in such a way that the ventilation duct is clogged; a separate exhaust shaft is provided for by the builders. And if it is not, then vent. the hole is divided so that a free passage of air is available even without a hood, just the "hole" is closed by the petals of the check valve.

Otherwise, it turns out that since we do not cook food and do not turn on the hood, it means that it is not supposed to breathe in the sanpin - the air renewal does not start.

You just cover the burner and the surface nearby. And simple glass ceramics is so possible? Will the newspaper light up? Bijou, you are opening America for me right now. Be proud.

I'm proud !!

Here are some more pictures. Once a friend sends them to me in ICQ with completely stunned comments. And I can't understand, I say "Well, yes. And?" It turns out that she saw it on another forum and shares it with me.)))

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Newspapers do not light up from the word at all. Very hot frying may cause the circle under the squawrode to turn yellow. But all the same, business never reaches the ignition temperature of the paper, even if the cooking is turned off due to overheating and part of the covered newspaper under the dishes crumbles to dust. (I once forgot a large pot of porridge)

Regarding "the newspaper is not aesthetically pleasing, I choose beautiful paper towels."
Firstly, the consumption of towels turns out to be absolutely horse - I have a wide cooking room, and I want to cover as much work space as possible.
Secondly, the towels are small and constantly get lost during active actions.
Thirdly, the very first attempt to use them on the stove scared me for a long time - all the curls that were textured on the towels were immediately clearly drawn on the glass with a matte coating. How I wiped it off - I won't wish it on the enemy.

Therefore, nafik, I'm comfortable and okay. I have already been told this. As an example, they showed a photo where the towels lay strictly under the bottoms pots. Well, what for me such happiness?

And I was breaking my brain, what I have in this tiny kitchenette as many as two ventilation mines It turns out well: in one hood, and the second free air exchange ..

[Bijou]

Bijou, I did not write, taken from the site about hoods, the general meaning was reduced to the formula by which the volume (performance) of the hood is calculated when it is selected. Because the cost of the hood also depends on the power. And into the kitchen of 5 sq. m. it makes no sense to buy a hood that is able to cope with work in a kitchen of 25 sq. m.

And how I should have counted if I got a studio of 27 sq. m. (I don’t think the bathtub, it’s like a separate one) and the ceiling height after stretching will be 2.37 () ?? I bought 900 with a hook, closer to a thousand ... I counted, did not count ??? And what is considered a "turn". As I understand it, the corrugation will go up, turn to the left, again slightly up and into the ventilation duct .. Is this a turn?

[marina-asti]

It turns out well: in one hood, and the second free air exchange ..

Ideal apartment, congratulations!

marina-asti, again. The whole Internet is laughing at this half-educated goof, who has confused the requirements for natural air exchange in rooms with the calculation of the required exhaust power.Because the latter depends solely on the degree of air pollution, and certainly not on the cubic capacity of the room - a window ajar for the supply in any case expands our kitchen to the size of the entire atmosphere of the planet.

Porridge gurgles on the sly - we need one performance, practically none.
Frying French fries, fish, stir-fries or pasties - the productivity needs tremendous.
At the same time, the dimensions of the kitchen remain unchanged, do I understand correctly?

They gave the woman a scarf, she turned it inside out so that it would not burn out, so she took it out on the inside out

[kseniya D]

kseniya D, Ksyusha, take a picture of that corner on the left, under the windowsill, below the stove. What do you have hidden there? It's comfortable?

It seems to me that there is a carousel, but the shelves are not metal grates, but chipboard-shny

Lena, it is logical !!!! For me, the main thing is that there is no disgusting smell of gas, which is all the same for my nose ... brrr All my life I live with an electric stove, my mother and mother-in-law have gas, I always feel this smell! And, of course, so that less soot

They gave the woman a scarf, she turned it inside out so that it would not burn out, so she took it out on the inside out

And this happens.)) Someone has remote controls in foils and furniture under blankets ... I have a cooking room under papers.

I tried both towels and baking paper. According to its consumer properties, the newspaper turned out to be the most convenient - it absorbs part of the spilled water without creeping, dries back without sticking to everything it can reach, it allows the dishes to move, I sometimes throw garbage right on it decently - I will immediately throw in the spices-lavrushka caught from the broth, eg. And they will not flow through the broth, staining the glass. Windows are cut off for control zones with one movement of the knife on two newspapers at once, it is raked at the end of cooking in one fell swoop, without spilling anything past ...

In short, everyone goes crazy in their own way. I am a pragmatic aunt and do not like unnecessary work.

[Bijou]

Bijou, damn it, how great it is described! I went to train on glass ceramics. But I feel that the ambush will be still at number 4 ...

Therefore, nafik, I'm comfortable and okay.

This is the main thing!

[Aunt Besya]

Aunt Besya, yes. With gas cooking, it is customary to install more powerful hoods. And not only because of the presence of combustion products, although also because of them.
I all know that gas stoves are the most uneconomical - about half of the heat they produce flies past the heated dishes. And the air heats up at the same time. So, it itself creates a decent flow, which seeks to crawl into the hood, interfering with the smoke-steam that we produced in the pans.

Induction cookers have the weakest performance requirements - they practically do not produce parasitic heat and only pollution is removed. The lower the hood hangs, the less capacity is sufficient. Again, they are supposed to be hung above the gas ones, hence the extra power.

The supply must correspond to the flow. And if this is not a window, then this is a ventilation shaft in the kitchen or in the toilet. At worst, there is air from the entrance if the front door is not tight. All these places require great efforts from the hood to pull through the air necessary for it.

People do not take into account any of the listed factors, they end up with a poorly cleaning hood, spit and say that this is all money and they are not going to use it anymore. ((

But we have not yet taken into account the length and quality of the duct from the hood to the channel and the quality of the channel itself.

I went to train on glass ceramics. But I feel that the ambush will be still at number 4 ...

Eee !!! Wait, where ?? !! Glass ceramics (if we are talking about highlight) warms mainly with radiation !! That is, it will not heat the dishes, but the paper itself! No way!

Eee !!! Wait, where ?? !! Glass ceramics (if we are talking about highlight) warms mainly with radiation !! That is, it will not heat the dishes, but the paper itself! No way!

Already convinced of this.

[Bijou]

Bijou, well, we do not take a priori the whole atmosphere, but it is worth starting from something, no?
The man asked how to choose a hood? Tell us what performance is needed for a kitchen in 5kv. m and 25sq. m.?
How to calculate it? I have gas, hood 1200 cube. m. but also an open area of ​​approx 45m. When porridge gurgles - on 1, and when fish is fried, then on 3. And the program does not depend on the openness of the door (I have access from the kitchen to the street).

[Lena]

Someone has remotes in films and furniture under blankets

Spied on me. I was asleep. What? I have the right
And as for the newspaper - I see it for the first time. I am shocked. Lena, thanks for the educational program

Ksyusha, take a picture of that corner on the left, under the windowsill

It looks like an airfryer ...

But I didn't guess

It seems to me that there is a carousel

By again

This shelf angle was formed by accident. There, blank panels were supposed to be flush with the facades. The master installed the cabinets, and the next day he had to come and install false panels in 3 places. But this corner haunted me all evening. So much space and tightly closed! Picked up, went to Ikea. These are side open shelves, they can be used as wall and floor shelves. And the size of the sho dohtor prescribed. She arrived, collected and herself vperdolil her into a corner. The master came, but was delighted - less work.

I have potatoes and onions in wicker boxes, followed by a green carousel and a container. And there is even a free spot.

Ooooo what you are!

Biju, well, we do not take a priori the whole atmosphere, but we should start from something, no?

I told you above, and you yourself in practice came to the same conclusion.

The program does not depend on the openness of the door precisely because even without it there is a large buffer volume of air, and there is a crack somewhere. I have about the same picture, well, maybe a little more territory adjacent to the hood - the hall on two floors is separated from the kitchen by a missing piece of the wall, in fact it is a studio.

When there was a renovation, the husband covered this opening with a thick plastic wrap. As soon as the hood was turned on at least two points, this thick and huge film began to rise, at a maximum - with the edge almost one and a half meters from the floor. At the same time, air was drawn into the kitchen from all over the house - there were no doors to the bedrooms and the total area was around a hundred meters with a hook. What kind of hood would you choose based on the area of ​​the "kitchen" of 150 meters, mm? But the cooker hood calmly coped with the boiling soup by only one from a possible four. And if I hadn't cooked anything more smelly, then this one would be enough for me. Even on two or five hundred meters of kitchen space.))

So the advice when choosing, if it is not a formal reply, sounds like this - first of all, the power depends on culinary habits and the type of stove.

[Ksenia]

Ksenia, you are a super brain)))))

[Tatyana]

Tatyana, thanks, I tried to use any patch.

[Lena]

Lena, in general, a consonant, I did not argue. And not quite in practice, and ventilation during the construction of various houses was perfectly calculated in due time, about which there are corresponding entries in the diploma
But a person asked a question who does not understand anything about this, as a starting point, I still consider (IMHO) it makes sense to estimate your volume. And push off from it! Because a lot of people really go to Leroy, buy hoods for 2 thousand rubles, then it turns out that some kind of filter is needed there, then this thing doesn't connect to the vent channel and only work in recirculation or with plastic boxes with a bunch of corners ( just as beautiful) will reach the ventilation, and in the end, as the whole apartment smelled like fish, it smells. And then they say that all your hoods are bullshit, I'd rather open the window!
And naturally, whoever understands the starting points for choosing a hood will not count the net volume at 150m2)), more often people who are not very strong in this are looking for a hood for a more or less standard kitchen.

At one time I worked on the territory of the warehouse, our office was given the 2nd floor above the warehouse, there were definitely 300 meters. In this space we were transport workers - 3 people and developers, there were also 3-4 of them. There were no walls or doors between us, my shelves with product certificates served as a fence. Hoods naturally were not there) We are all constantly! smoked without getting up from the workplace) the ventilation did an excellent job. Upon entering, non-smokers did not immediately understand that they were smoking here

[marina-asti]

marina-asti,

I agree that it is very difficult for an uninitiated person, whose range of interests lies in a completely different plane, to immediately figure out and understand the essence of the hoods work. As the classic used to say, many things are incomprehensible to us, not because our concepts are weak, but because these things are not included in the range of our concepts.

It was easier for me - then a knowledgeable comrade lived in ICQ, I listed him what was in stores and he immediately poked into my future as the most powerful one, knowing that I would have two brews. We didn't seem to discuss the size of the kitchen at all. Although I didn't like her design, I trusted him.

[Bijou]

Bijou,
When I was choosing a hood for an apartment about 12 years ago, I also did not count, because I approximately understood which hood would cope and which would not. There was "another crisis" in the country, a lot of money had already been spent in a new apartment, but I wanted it to be beautiful and not prohibitively expensive! Because I didn't like anything in stores; I came to a client for work (I was selling appliances) and asked if I could get a hood from Italy, the main thing is that it should be angular and made of good stainless steel. I was given a Faber catalog, I pointed a finger and they brought it to me. In an apartment a la studio 50 meters (corridor, kitchen and living room were a single space) worked great! True, I also had 2 risers and it was connected according to the rules) And on the second hole there was a beautiful grill with a fan

[marina-asti]

marina-asti, MarinaThank you very much for the specifics !!! I will make a calculation according to your formula and I hope I will not be mistaken in my choice. I really don't want the hood to become just a decor ... I want a very good and working unit !!!
Girls, just not everyone in ICQ has a specialist in technology and not everyone graduated from a technical university!
Sorry, I didn't want to offend anyone !!!

[Marina.]

Marina., yeah ... Faber is always good ...

[Crochet]

Crochet, Inna, I keep my promise to you My kitchen and a short description.

NEFF oven with pyrolysis, under the oven there is a box with accessories for baking, then in the upper drawer there is a dish dryer (I showed it earlier), a bottle holder (everything for PMM, a knife sharpener, household chemicals), a cast sink with a countertop, an artificial stone countertop, along the window is 70 cm wide, holes for the battery, in the basement of the lower cabinets there are grilles, the mixer has a hose of about 1 m,

the sink is large, large-sized pots, pans and almost a baking sheet are placed, PMM (Bosch with zeolite), a carousel in the corner (the upper tier is for daily use, the lower tier is pots, pans, bowls), again a bottle holder, but wide (flour, vinegars, salt etc.), Siemens induction hob,
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underneath in drawers are plates and grating-cutting-crumbling tools. Hood Faber with a retractable visor

The last drawers contain cutlery, napkins, potholders, bags for packaging and vacuuming.


Refrigerators, a chest freezer and a bunch of household appliances are in the closets, here is one of them:

Oh, Light, how cozy you are!

[Cvetaal]

Cvetaal, cozy and everything is in its place

[Cvetaal]

Cvetaal Light, cozy, but something technology is not enough, everything is hidden

Yes, Galina, I have all the equipment on shelves in closed storerooms, an ice cream maker, for example, is stationary there.

Girls, thanks for your kind feedback on my workspace, I am very pleased

[Cvetaal]

Cvetaal, Svetlana, it's just not descriptive ... just like me lublu !!! That nothing superfluous would interfere !!!
BGRAVO, BGRAVO, BGAVO !!!

[Cvetaal]

Cvetaal, very cool cuisine! A large pantry and more than one - my unrealizable dream!

[marina-asti]

my unrealizable dream!

marina-asti, Marina, come on, that's so cretal !!! What are our years, Marina !!! You have a house, a summer residence, etc. and you think that in your real estate you will not find a place to equip a cool closet ... give it up !!! You just haven't thought about it yet !!!

[Ludmila]

Ludmila, the house was ready - do not attach anything to it))), if you only allocate a place for the utility block, but you will not run into the utility block)
And the dacha is so 5 by 5 house, you don't know where to put the refrigerator.
If I stutter to my husband that the house is too small - oh, I'm afraid he won't be happy
Well, no, maybe in 20 years I will think about it, but for now, the kitchen needs to be finished after the move!

[Marina]

but you won't run into the utility block)

Marina, but I understood that Svetlana's pantries are not in the kitchen. So everything is in your hands !!! And Admin-Tatiana wrote on her blog how to equip pantries ... read it at your leisure.
I have not yet got to this forum did not think at all that I needed a pantry ... but now I think that I should probably think about the house !!! only my husband doesn't know about it yet

[Cvetaal]

Cvetaal, excellent cuisine! Everything is so airy, class! Some write that the glass over the stove is inconvenient, you will be tortured to wash it. And you are a brave woman, you are not afraid of difficulties.

Ladies, thanks for the appreciation of my kitchen!

I have a kitchen-living room (28 sq m), so I don't keep anything extra on the countertop. One pantry (2.3m x 1.3m) is the main storage place for everyday life. appliances, food supplies, conservation, 2 refrigerators, is located in the hallway and is separated by a sliding structure (see photo) of three canvases with three guides, thanks to which all three canvases can be moved in one direction or another. Second pantry,

temporary (for 8 years now we have not been able to agree with my husband about its purpose, he wants a large jacuzzi 2x2 m, but I am against it, to wash it for me, and we live without a jacuzzi)

8 sq m, there is a large chest freezer.

Some write that the glass over the stove is inconvenient, you will be tortured to wash it.

Irish, nothing gets on the glass at all, because the retractable visor of the hood protects reliably, and the kitchen apron is made of large porcelain stoneware slabs with smooth edges, which made it possible to make the tile joints minimal, less cleaning

[Svetlana]

Svetlana, beautyaaa)))) and order)))) the upper facades are awesome just)))