toffee
tana33, strange ... but I like this color contrast. And this is an unexpected apron solution. Is that glass?
tana33
Quote: Elena Tim

Yes laaan ...

I speak the truth ... I am ... my life ...
toffee
Do you have such perfect cleanliness in your kitchen? Do not tell me that this is so, otherwise my complex of an inferior hostess starts to play.
tana33
Irina, the decision was very unexpected, even for me))) I was looking for something, I didn't know what
if only I saw a drawing of an apron like Sveta

Quote: Chubby


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I would have ordered exactly this)))) I really like the calmness and monochrome
but when I saw these flowers, I realized that it was mine too)))) just like that I lay down to my soul))) I'm happy every day)))
this glass is tempered
tana33
Quote: iris. ka

Do you have such perfect cleanliness in your kitchen? Do not tell me that this is so, otherwise my complex of an inferior hostess starts to play.

Irina, this photo was taken immediately after installing the kitchen and apron
toffee
Fuuuuh, tada okay.
Scarlett
Quote: iris. ka

Fuuuuh, tada okay.
And me too - fuuuuh
tana33
Quote: iris. ka

Fuuuuh, tada okay.

Quote: Scarlett

And me too - fuuuuh

Taia
tana33, I like your kitchen. I generally like white. For a long time I had white kitchen furniture, now it is too long - dark. White is better in leaving. And the smooth facade is also more to your liking. Less greasy dust will settle on all squiggles. A smooth panel can be wiped off in one motion, but different curves and grooves are more difficult. This is also from my experience, I am for rationality.
tana33
Taia, Thank you )))
my friend has a classic-style kitchen, I really like it very much, but how can I imagine how to care for this beauty))))
although I may not be right, and no special care is needed, she is also new for now, let's see how we will be clean in half a year)))
Aunt Besya
Tatyana, the apron is cool, you actually look and your mood improves !!! (y) Glass?
tana33
Elena, thanks))) this glass, tempered, photo printing
drawing is a collage from the author's works of the photo artist Beata Becla,
I took pictures for photo printing here 🔗
the site was given by glaziers, they buy photos with good quality there, so they said, sit and look. you will find, your happiness, you will not find, come up with another drawing))) in their own database there was no such apron)))
Niarma
tana33, and what is your countertop made of? I really liked
tana33
Niarma, this is a plastic coating, but from some new ones, the master brought me samples and I chose
it is not glossy, the surface is heterogeneous, but at the same time nothing gets into this heterogeneity and does not clog for some reason
I really wanted a stone, but the toad stepped on the song, and the master supported the toad and brought cards))))
I sawed the sample with a tomato knife, with teeth which)))) not a scratch
I stained with plasticine, I did not know how else to test it))) I had samples lying around for a week, it was time to mock)))
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Anna1957
Quote: tana33

Niarma, this is a plastic cover, but some of the new ones,
And what is his name? And how much did the toad allow to pay?
tana33
Anna1957, Anya, I'll ask))) regarding the stone, it is very inexpensive
by the way, my friend has had an Ikea tabletop for 5 years
like this
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in perfect condition, she cooks every day
I would also take ikea, but they are all short for my kitchen and I would have to make a joint
Aunt Besya
Girls, and to "under the tree" which handles go more? In my opinion, since facades with milling, railing do not go anymore, it means staples, right? And preferably as few squiggles as possible so that dirt does not get clogged? I remember on the old headset I tried to clean some places with a steam cleaner - the film was swollen. The option to periodically unscrew the knobs and wash is somehow not close to me ... I now have completely smooth polished chrome, I wipe it every day. I can imagine if there were any more holes-bulges-bulges
To be honest, I liked these 🔗 , but I can't even imagine how they will look on the facades "white coconut" ... although the hood, oven, cooking hob are black ...
We kind of agreed on this kind of furniture 🔗 - pencil case and upper corner - glass
V-tina
Elena, I can't take a picture now .. well, I'll try in words .. I have a kitchen - the bottom is wenge, the top is oak locarno, the technique is all dark, the handles are like yours - they are slightly different in execution, the edges are made differently, the color is wenge, I am very I like it as for my taste - they fit organically
V-tina
Elena, is this the slab on the blueprint next to the pencil case?
Aunt Besya
Stove, aha, dominoes
I will have the whole coconut white, without top-bottom separation
Olga VB
Elena, be sure to see the selected handles live: sometimes the height of the staple is too small, especially for male hands. There should be such a height that 2-3 fingers fit normally without touching the surface of the door.
I don't know if she explained it sensibly
When my husband and I were choosing pens, he very much insisted on this, so that his hand could go there freely, even if a couple of fingers. And he was right.
Well, the handles in the kitchen are what we sometimes grab with not the cleanest hands, therefore, the less irregularities they have, the easier it is to take care of them.
I would, if you have the same top and bottom, I would choose something either in the color of the table top, or in the color of the wall panel, or all-metal matte. IMHO.
V-tina
Elena, and not scary to put a stove near the cabinet? or will there be something protective? And (well, this is my personal opinion), the cabinet would interfere with using the stove
tana33
Elena, I recommend Ikea pens


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as Olga correctly noted, they are wide enough for a man's hand and the distance between the surface and the handle is large
I don’t touch the facade at all, and accordingly there are no traces from my hands
and will fit into most facades, you can not put the round ones, as in the second photo
handles look simple on the photo, but very good on furniture
and the price is generally ridiculous, 250 for 2 pieces))))
I in Chelyabinsk watched decent pens only at 250 apiece, and this was the minimum
I really don't know how you and Ikea are)))), otherwise I advised))))
Chamomile
Aunt Besya, I would not make a stove next to the pencil case, it is inconvenient, not safe, you will be tortured to wash. Either make a regular wall cabinet, not a pencil case, or transfer a gas surface. Is the wall cabinet narrow on the edge? Will you put something under it? Why do you need an open shelf, and even so high? Only collect dirt there. It seems so to me.
Aunt Besya
With Ikea, we sucks That is, we don't have her
Now, in order:
I just like the pencil case! I know this argument doesn’t work for men, but women should understand
In general, I do not really expect that my son will cook something serious there, no matter how he does with Doshirak! But I'll think about it ...
The gas surface cannot be transferred for objective reasons, there is a pipe, and we somehow have a very elephant with transfer, as it turned out

There is a narrow cabinet along the edge, because there is a refrigerator, and this cabinet is above it. It turns out to be large enough - both wide and tall, because the Sharp refrigerator is 162 high
And the open shelf turned out by chance, solely for symmetry: there is a dryer and or the entire cabinet can be made with a dryer, but then it turns out to be non-standard-huge, so much is simply not needed. Secondly, it will turn out to be not similar in size to any of the cabinets. Dust ... yes ... But on the other hand, there are always some vases, which just have nowhere to stick ... Something like that.
There is nowhere to really look at the handles, because our home-grown furniture makers take orders from catalogs, and then they themselves order from somewhere for the client
tana33
Elena, I agree with the girls on the question of the pencil case, it will block the light, and it will definitely be inconvenient, and the whole structure will be heavy, because there is a high wardrobe on both sides
and you did not consider the option of a pencil case next to the refrigerator and transferring the sink to the corner in this case?
I saw such an option and an apartment like yours practically, a little more in size, but since they have a balcony instead of a window, the kitchen is short, you won't go around too much, you still need to leave space for the door

yeah, it's a pity that you don't have ikea)))))))) we also have the closest one for 250 km)))
Chamomile
Quote: tana33
it will block the light too
Exactly.I myself thought where to put the refrigerator at the entrance or first from the window, after looking at many real photos of kitchens, I came to the conclusion that it is better at the entrance, because if it is at the window, it strongly blocks the light. At the same time, I did not consider the pencil case at all, although it is very convenient. But in a small kitchen there is nowhere to squeeze it in. We need surfaces, because I like the equipment to be at hand, and not tucked away in the closet. Yes, not very nice, yes, everything is forced, but it's so convenient for me. It is also very convenient to hang narrow cabinets above the table against the opposite wall, where the table is.
Taia
Quote: Chamomile1
It is also very convenient to hang narrow cabinets above the table against the opposite wall, where the table is.

I was visiting and there I saw the lockers hanging over the table for the first time. I liked it, wardrobes were bought and nailed down at home. At first it was somehow unusual, then they got used to it and were very satisfied, additional areas appeared for everything.
Aunt Besya
And why will he block the light? He didn’t taste it as deep as the upper wall cabinets, that is, in front of him, and part of the table is free, and to the edge of the window another 15 centimeters, so even the tile on the side is still ... This is more likely not a pencil case, but a sideboard with glass under glasses , bottles, etc ...
went to the topic about repairs crying about what these gouging repairmen did to me
Chamomile
Aunt Besya, I looked at real photos of kitchens on different sites, including on request in Yandex, just photos of kitchens. A lot of things come out there, including photos of real kitchens. It can be seen that they are used, everything is usual, the dishes are standing, not always as clean and perfect as in the pictures from furniture companies. So, where the refrigerator is by the window, especially if it is a Khrushchev, it is really dark along this line. It is possible that a narrower pencil case will not have such a critical effect on lighting. And, again, I am writing about the photos that I saw while I live with a large kitchen, but I plan to move and there will be a small kitchen. I prepare mentally and draw my own version of kitchen furniture.
Aunt Besya
Well, that's right, I also looked and refused the option "refrigerator by the window", because its width is at least 60 cm. I would even have it crawl out of the wall and block part of the window And this cabinet is as wide as all the upper ones, plus with glass , plus narrower than the width of the side wall, oh there is a window not even a micron block .. so I thought that it would not be bad ..
How would it be something like this 🔗
tana33
Elena, yes, it's beautiful)))) Of course, it's a pity to hide such a beautiful pencil case behind the refrigerator)))))))
Chamomile
Aunt Besya, step back a little from the case with a gas surface. What does a pipe mean, and what is flexible hoses for? And imagine that there is a 4-burner stove (this is a tip for "very smart" gasmen) and indent the width of 2 burners. Although I would have retreated more, simply because there is also glass. It will be splattered with splashes, especially since the person does not really cook, that is, he does not know how much. How I scrub everything when my son prepares scrambled eggs for himself, well, in general, I don't really like glass in the kitchen, and I don't like glass at all, but these are my troubles.
Niarma
Aunt Besya, you already have a small free surface in the kitchen, and you want to take another 45cm with a pencil case. in my opinion, it is better to place beautiful dishes in a cabinet with glass, and put a microwave in the vacant space (if it is not so necessary). And it is unlikely that the MCH will constantly wash the glass, and the kitchen is a kitchen, especially a small one. By the way, your photo of the kitchen is closer to the classics and, IMHO, a very feminine version
Aunt Besya
Thank you girls! Everything is in the project, I will think it over !!!
toffee
Quote: Niarma

IMHO, a very feminine version
I thought about it. I went and looked at the drawing again. Hmm ... there is something about that. Can really make a bar counter, chrome ceiling posts? ....
Chardonnay
Quote: Niarma
Aunt Besya, you already have a small free surface in the kitchen, and you want to take another 45cm with a pencil case.in my opinion, it is better to place beautiful dishes in a cabinet with glass, and put a microwave in the vacant space (if it is not so necessary).
I very, very agree. My son does not cook much himself yet, but the technique he uses in the kitchen is mikra (especially after Natalishka's recipe for scrambled eggs in the microwave))). If only you want to put the mikrushka in an open shelf - then it is possible, but I would also transform this cute pencil case :) He has a drawer on the countertop, which means that in order to get into it, you will need to remove everything from the countertop.
Niarma
cold tones - gray of different shades, grayish blue, etc. - will go well with a stainless steel rack. n. coconut is. IMHO, the color for the kitchen conceived by YOU, I talked with the master - the youth prefers gloss or metallic (in the forehead case, not under a tree and other "natural" materials.
Olga VB
Young people are also different.
Everything in the house should calm, relax, and even more so in the kitchen. And the colors should be cozy, "edible".
As for the pencil case: IMHO, too, is not a very practical option, like transparent glass facades and open shelves. This (is it really?) Beauty will quickly become familiar and forgotten, but the inconvenience will remain.
V-tina
Quote: Niarma
young people prefer gloss or metallic
maybe we have other young people, but my kitchen is bottom wenge, top is oak locarno (that is, it is never glossy at all) against the background of green walls - all my students who saw it liked
Aunt Besya
Well, my son chose the tree himself, I only insisted on a light shade that it was lighter. And all three of us looked at and saved pictures on the Internet in parallel on our computers, then stupidly chose those that were saved by the whole family. These are the conservatives we are ..
variety
Aunt Besya, this is for you to
"I'd like to present this clearly))))"

Something like this will look like an "ideal" kitchen expanding space:

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Furniture for kitchen
But both kitchens are also not quite ideal.
The first picture shows a very dark work wall and very contrasting and wide gaps between the doors of the lower drawers.

The second kitchen is closer to ideal, because it has fewer "small" parts and doors. From the "imperfect":
1. Square doors. They do not "shift" space, but they do not expand it either. If the doors were in the shape of a rectangle with a lower height ("lying rectangle"), the kitchen would be very close to ideal;
2. Dark contrasting table top.
Irina Dolars
And such?
Transparent chairs (or tables) do not visually take up space.

Furniture for kitchen Furniture for kitchen
KITCHEN to the ceiling
Dark "bottom" and infinitely white "top"
Or for a family of basketball players, or need a stepladder
Notice a hidden range hood?

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Anchic
In the last picture, the battery under the window is not enough
Kara
Girls, white kitchens are very beautiful, but from the point of view of practicality, it's terrible
Chamomile
Quote: Irina Dolars
Or for a family of basketball players, or need a stepladder
I have a kitchen almost to the ceiling. Height 170, I keep the lung upstairs and in boxes. For example, plastic containers, packaging materials, napkins, silicone molds, all harvester attachments, spices in a box, a colander and a ladle with long handles. At the same time, I do not have to climb the ladder. I just take out the box with what I need, find everything I need in it and put the box back. I can get out and remove the box without getting up on the ladder, so I reach it. I also store ceremonial dishes upstairs, which I take out a couple of times a year. The son takes it out, he also cleans it up later, after the holiday. He has to get up on a stool. But, this is only a few times a year.
Kirks
Quote: Kara

Girls, white kitchens are very beautiful, but from the point of view of practicality - it's terrible
Ira, I have a white kitchen. Horror is not in color but in gloss.
Kara
Quote: Chamomile1

I have a kitchen almost to the ceiling.

I, too, I only take out the upper shelves from the chair (this is taking into account the fact that the lower ones are increased in height and the apron is larger than usual). Each top cabinet has three full-size shelves. I can't reach the depth of the corner, I call my husband. But how much space !!!
marina-asti
And I have 2 kitchen cabinets (a rack with an oven and drawers with appliances / trays, etc.), the most popular white gloss - I can't love it! No problem at all. At least once a month I will wipe the facades.
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telez
Girls, hello everyone! I really need advice. Maybe you have some interesting ideas. The background is as follows. When we moved into the apartment and I ordered the kitchen, I didn't even think about a dishwasher. And after a few years I realized that I can't live without PMM! So I'm tired of these dishes! And my husband gave me a PMM on March 8th. The place was chosen next to the sink to make it easier to connect. To do this, we pulled out the inner cabinet and put it separately. PMM you see in the picture. We planned a hinged door on it, and next to a roll-out cabinet. We ordered the whole thing in the same company in which they ordered the kitchen before, of course, with the same facades. Have paid. We had to do all this in February, now it’s October, and things are still there. You may have heard about the infamous Forema - and so, we also got there. Well, that's not the point. I strongly doubt that they will ever do anything to us, but I would like to put the kitchen in order. What do you think, what can you think of here, how to fix this mess? I would be grateful for ideas.
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