Choosing an electric meat grinder

The fact of the matter is that it turns out that Axions' knives can be dull and this unit will crush the minced meat, and not fully grind. I understand that the principle "lucky - not lucky" works in this regard!

I don’t know whether I was lucky or not.
I ground the chicken with all the giblets on a fine grate (I wouldn't call it small, but it's the smallest in the kit), it seems, nothing ... I ground the pork (neck) on a large one - it crushes, or so it seemed to me. I grew up a little, then I calmed myself: with Axion, I think there will be a minimum of problems in the sense that buying a knife and a disc in a set is not a problem.
The funny thing is, to stuff sausages with a meat grinder with that crap I ordered a sausage syringe. So it was possible to leave Vtess too - there is a power of wow! but Axion is visually prettier

The funny thing is, to stuff sausages with a meat grinder with that crap I ordered a sausage syringe. So it was possible to leave Vtess too - there is a power of wow! but Axion is visually prettier

Why hemorrhoids? It was because of these attachments and the protective screen that I bought Axion 41.02. An hour ago they brought this unit. Puzzled ...

Why hemorrhoids?

I meant sausages, or rather sausages. For sausage emulsion it is better to have a syringe. And so, a meat grinder grinds, what else is needed?

Why hemorrhoids? It was because of these attachments and the protective screen that I bought Axion 41.02. An hour ago they brought this unit. Puzzled ... I also have to deliver such a meat grinder tomorrow. I have been choosing for a very long time and opted for Axion M4102, and now it turns out that in vain ...

Good afternoon, are there any owners of the Bork M501 meat grinder on the forum, I would like to know how the shredder works?

Today we bought the Axion 3102 meat grinder. Feelings are still mixed ... The first pancake is lumpy. Spun the first meat on a shallow wire rack, or pulled it badly, or did not pick something quite right, but the first meat clogged the wire rack, and wound a little around the screw. I decided to change the grill to a large one and apparently immediately tightened the screw too tightly, even something sparkled a bit. I turned it off immediately, my husband cursed, said that it was necessary to start a little meat first, then tighten it up. It seems to have improved, it smells a bit of burnt wires, but everything works. After a normal start, I twisted about 3 kilos of rather tough meat. I sit and think how not to burn the unit ... I tested a shredder, rubbed a large carrot in a couple of seconds.

Meat grinder Fimar 12 / TS

The first minced meat - a beef shoulder, onion, soaked white bread probably was later rolled.

[Michael]

Michael, Michael! What are your impressions of the meat grinder? More details please.

Tell me, how does a dragon knife grind meat?
There are a lot of pictures of the knife, but for some reason I can't find the result produced (((

I think the unit for 30 thousand, should not disappoint))) He must chop the meat himself)))))) Is this unit professional for large volumes of meat?

What are your impressions of the meat grinder? More details please.

We brought this unit with a net weight of 19.6 kg. February 9th.
The wife said huge, she already takes it to be dumbfounded.
12 they are all heavy, Chinese are lighter, five kilograms.
Ideally, I would like 8, but they are dead, only under the fillet.
The next nuance, how to wash?
That is, most meat grinders have a non-removable hopper (trunk), here's how to wash it, a problem.

As a result, two Italian meat grinders with a removable bunker - Fmarar 12 and Sirman 12 (DENVER) - entered the home stretch.
Sirman was lighter - 15 kg., a peculiar design using plastic and a lower power - 0.55 kW.
For a 12, the standard is 0.75 kW, although there is also 1.1 kW (Fama TS 12 FTS 127U), but a 1/2 unger system is used there.
Yes, the power figures are not familiar here, no 2000+ watts.
Next, the work of the meat grinder.
It works very quietly, there is no buzzing or howling at all.
More like uterine ur-ur-ur. You can talk during the operation of the meat grinder absolutely calmly, almost without noticing the noise of its operation.
Scrolled meat (beef shoulder), onions, soaked white bread in a small amount.
And so the cutlets, or rather their taste.
The wife was the first to take a sample of the cutlets and is silent about the taste, she says try.
This is where it starts wow and okeino, the taste of cutlets is airy and juicy. It is difficult to explain in more detail about the taste, not a gourmet.
I don’t remember such cutlets with such taste, how many I didn’t try to remember. The meat is ordinary, we take it in a taste for four years, as soon as they opened, better than any auchan and intersections.
What's more, the aftertaste of cutlets is present for about ten minutes. Although the complex includes a side dish and a sauce. True, they did not drink tea immediately after dinner.
Second day, dinner, the effect is repeated.
The third day, they finished eating cutlets, the effect was, but less.
Dumplings, minced lamb - excellent.
Soup with meatballs, minced beef. Here the effect is less, but noticeable.
Issue price - 30K with a trifle. + delivery is paid.
Conclusion - a meat grinder is worth its money, of course, IMHO.

Peace be with you bakers!
Well, she can beat the costs

Question --- WHY is this unit at home, well, really, I'm not even in terms of money \ everyone has different incomes \ so that once a week to make cutlets and fill the sausage once
Maybe I grumble about the old man of course having a kitchen 4.7 IMHO

Question --- WHY is this unit at home

For those who inattentively read the posts.
The taste of the final product of this unit.

and fill the sausage once

Meat grinder set - knife and 1 wire rack
Sausage attachments according to a separate price list.

Maybe I grumble about the old man of course having a kitchen 4.7

Our kitchen is 7.9 sq. M.
* Sent to retirement - Mulinex HV-3 meat grinder (autumn 1994)

[Michael]

Michael, for stuffing sausages you do not need a nozzle, you need a sausage syringe. Through a meat grinder, you are tortured to stuff the sausage, especially with an emulsion.

Peace be with you bakers!

Anchic--

Any stuffing through a meat roll \ we have a zelmer \ and you don't have to suffer, you need to stuff

Michael-
Good meat at the exit and from hand-rolled meat will give good minced meat

Everything else from the evil one

In the sense of the subconscious - there was a pribluda for the top five, and now it is 5-6 times more expensive, of course, she should make lush and tasty minced meat - even from tarpaulin

[Anchic]

Anchic,
About sausage, this is still in theory.
Although, judging by the videos, there are no particular problems when stuffing sausages through a meat grinder.

Good meat at the exit and from hand-rolled meat will give good minced meat

Oh these fairy tales, oh these storytellers! (from)

She did her doctorate several times. The first time I stuffed it with a meat grinder - it's easier to kill. Minced meat does not go into the meat grinder, because there is air in front of it, which cannot come out. But with the help of a sausage syringe - it's a few minutes and 1.5 kg already in the casing. I got the syringe after the first experience with the meat grinder, because I didn't want to repeat it. I think the syringes were not just invented.

The first time I stuffed it with a meat grinder - it's easier to kill. Minced meat does not fit into a meat grinder

Climbs without any problems, but certainly not like a piece of meat.
Don't want to mess around, you can buy a meat grinder with a system unger.

I got the syringe after the first experience with a meat grinder

The syringe is probably good.
But it is not clear, are you running the minced meat through the meat grinder again?

She did her doctorate several times.

If for a doctor's sausage, then you need a cutter, not a meat grinder.
And only then the syringe for filling.

Although, judging by the videos

Where can I watch videos?
Simple googling did not give out about this meat grinder in terms of sausages.

[Miranda]

Miranda,
And that my meat grinder is somehow special in terms of making homemade sausages?
The same moorings and forward - set of nozzles for filling sausages for meat grinder Fama, Fimar, Sirman.

Peace be with you bakers!
well that's not all

Based on your dialogue above, it seems that you are talking about some things (according to a separate price list) to your meat grinder.

And now suddenly, unexpectedly -

And that my meat grinder is somehow special in terms of making homemade sausages?

Because, if it is not special in terms of sausage, then for sausages, whether boiled, or uncooked, or other, a meat grinder is a very dubious helper.

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The same moorings and forward

So these are just three different plastic nozzles for a separate price list?

Even the snap ring is not included?
Or is it possible to remove the knife / grate and the auger does not walk?

Added Sunday 19 March 2017 09:14 PM

PS Have you photographed your tarsus? Or a picture from an Internet?

Because if it is not special in terms of sausage, then for the sausage that is boiled

Cooked sausages and sausages are made in a cutter, there is a forum for these matters.

that uncooked smoked, that other other, the meat grinder is a very dubious assistant.

It doesn't interest me so far.

So these are just three different plastic nozzles for a separate price list?

And the set is also expensive - 1.5K

Or is it possible to remove the knife / grate and the auger does not walk?

The sausage knife is not needed.
Maybe which meat grinders have augers and walk left, mine does not.

And the set is also expensive - 1.5K

Professional plastic?

You didn’t answer - are your photos or from the Internet?

The sausage knife is not needed.

There the auger is attached and can without a grate / knife?
And then you took a picture with a lattice, it's not clear.

[Michael]

Michael, I'm talking about stuffing sausages and sausages, and not about preparing an emulsion for them. The cutter is needed to prepare the emulsion. But filling the shell with this emulsion using a meat grinder is a very dubious pleasure.
Everyone decides for himself about the need for a cutter for making an emulsion. I don't do that much and often make sausages, the blender is enough for me. Maybe I get a not quite perfect emulsion, but our family is happy with the result.

[Anchic]

Professional plastic?

Yes, a plastic pusher for meat - 800 rubles.

There the auger is attached and can without a grate / knife?
And then you took a picture with a lattice, it's not clear.

What is not clear from the photo?
How can the auger be fixed without a grate?
And where does the knife?
Sausage is made without a knife

Anchic,
The videos show that the emulsion for the doctor's sausage and sausages is made in a cutter and stuffed with a syringe.

But filling the shell with this emulsion using a meat grinder is a very dubious pleasure.

I meant to stuff homemade sausage with a meat grinder.

Everyone decides for himself about the need for a cutter for making an emulsion.

I bought a cutter for dough and chopping, well, to cook mayonnaise in it. Great unit, small and handy.

[Michael]

Michaelwhy do you ignore the question of photography a second time?
Tsyvki - your photo or from the Internet?

[Michael]

Michael, and why then the tarsus for 1.5K, if you make an emulsion in a cutter and stuff it with a syringe? It is to this phrase:

Sausage attachments according to a separate price list.

I wrote that for stuffing sausages it is better to use not a meat grinder, but a sausage syringe.

[Anna]

Anna,
We did not get to the preparation of the sausage and it is not known when we will get there
And the doctor's sausage and sausages are not interesting.
It is precisely homemade sausage using a meat grinder, I wonder if it is from my wife's childhood.

[Michael]

Michael, well, okay, I'll give you a third chance to answer the question that you ignore - is the photo of yours or from the Internet?

Good day! I have a question for the owners of Axions, do you use shredders, do you like it?

[Louise]

Louise, I use it, I like it. Easily disassembled and shreds well. There are almost no pieces left.

[Sapphire]

Sapphire, I understand these straw chopper attachments?

Rubbing straws on a berner. And these, like an ordinary hand grater, rub.

[Irina]

Irina, of course, then I probably don't need them, I don't cook in such volumes)

Raw carrots, if rubbed on a fine grater, it is better on this one. Radishes can be rubbed well on a coarse grater.

Good day! I have a question for the owners of Axions, do you use shredders, do you like it?

I use it in the harvesting season. They are very popular for large and small shredders. And I haven’t used potato pancakes and slices even once in 3 years of ownership.

[Irina]

Irina, Sasha, I understood, thanks)) is a juicer a necessary thing? For tomatoes, do you think I can handle it?

[on all nozzles]

for tomatoes

For tomatoes there is an excellent attachment "for tomatoes, mashed potatoes" - an excellent and necessary thing if you need to make tomato puree for conservation.

Zelmer and Axion are twin brothers, so you can watch my review on all nozzles in the topic OVERVIEW OF ZELMER 987.80 ELECTRIC MEAT GRINDER
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_content&task=view&id=1366.html&Itemid=296

[Admin]

Admin, that is, do the Zelmer attachments fit to Axion or does Axion just shred, grind, etc.?

[Louise]

Louise, I have a Zelmer meat grinder. I won't say anything about Axion, you need to ask the owners.

I have Axion, my friend Zelmer. They are different. The attachments are not interchangeable.

Earlier, before the era of email. mincing machines were exactly the same attachment juicers for manual ones. My, already at that time quite middle-aged, summer resident aunt used to wind up a hundred liters of juice every season. Therefore, I can definitely say that apple and tomato juice will work out. And then you decide whether you need it or not. I have not made juice on Axion myself (I use "garden" for apples and a sieve and handles for tomato)

[Elena Bo]

I have Axion,

Elena Bo, do you like Axion?

Therefore, I can say for sure that apple and tomato juice will work out. And then you decide whether you need it or not.

thank you, it is for tomato juice that a nozzle is very necessary, Zelmer also liked the mill, it is a pity that Axion does not have one ((and I don’t need shredder nozzles, they will be lying around idle, I looked after Axion 41-04, there are just from the nozzles) juicer and sausage attachments, everything I need

I like Axion, I always write about it. Especially the price-performance ratio at the time of purchase. And in comparison with Panasonic, in which it was possible to scroll only frozen meat (and then, half of the kitchen was spat upon after that). Axion grinds everything and doesn't spit. I wanted to buy a protective screen at the beginning, but I realized that I did not need it. I used graters during autumn harvesting. Liked. I didn't sting tomatoes.

[Elena Bo]

Elena Bo, thank you very much for the tip)) Panasonic ordered me to live a long time too, I used it infrequently, carefully, did not "rape", something burned out in the engine itself, change the motor-6 t. R. ((, now I want something more budgetary

Girls, and boys, I’ll ask you, but in the course someone in more detail about this very aforementioned Unger system in meat grinders? Does it have any other advantages, besides performance (which is not relevant to me), so that there is something to want it for? Or business only in speed?

I bought Gamma 7-01 because of the mill ...
when milling, part of it turns out with flour, and part is finely crushed cereal ..
It makes me happy!

Spices \ herbs \ spices ground ...

Can be disassembled / washed / assembled .....

And the shredder at the scale is good ..

I'll ask you more, and in the course someone knows more about this aforementioned Unger system in meat grinders

Unless, of course, money is not a pity.
12-ki from decent offices, the issue price is from 40 + K.
Unger - three gratings: undercut, coarse perforation, fine perforation. Plus - two double-sided knives.
Here's a "shish kebab" turns out
Productivity for any will be more because according to European standards it is run twice. Only using the Unger system in the meat grinder is one pass of meat allowed.
There is a compromise - the semi-unger system: a scoring grid, a double-sided knife and a grid.
Bork 780 implemented it, but for 29K.
Almost for this money, you can buy a half-unger from MEC, an Italian company, but meat grinders are most likely done on Everest - a proven Italian company.
I will not bore you with professional meat grinders against the background of Axions and Zalmerov

Oh, Michael has appeared

And I thought he was so reluctant to answer the question about photography, so reluctant that he stopped writing altogether.

But still, the photo is not his

set of nozzles for filling sausages for Fama, Fimar, Sirman meat grinders.

And from here 🔗

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