Samopal
Quote: kartinka
I'm more afraid for the bushings because of the leaves.
You buy these bushings for rubles, while any foreign car, for foreign currency. Well, they rarely break. You can buy at the factory, immediately pieces
50. But where so many? Regarding sharpening, yes, go over fine sandpaper or a touchstone (and not only a knife, but also a grate). I do this quite rarely, there is enough power for everything. The machine is a beast.
kartinka
Samopal, Anchic, gala10thank you boys girls. Remember one more thing, when I was yesterday when in the store, there is a slight backlash. It's okay or ask for another grinder, I watched 31 with a reverse, I want something with him and also - in the store we turned it on - I'm embarrassed that it somehow does not work very smoothly, but! This unevenness is the same without howling (oooo how she said!)
Ps I'll google more about the sharpening of the knife and even today I want to-and tomorrow I'll go, I'll take my aksyusha for permanent residence, do I need graters or a juicer, if the difference is small? ?? I rub everything with a combine and a crane. Tomato juice, in general, with a bang (but I still have that assembly of cranes - maybe they don't take new ones ...) only get the graters-harvester-wash, and these graters can be more mobile? I will rub them on trifles, not with my hands
Rituslya
On my Axion, these bushings flew once or twice. Probably, I have a mental marriage in my head, since I don't know how to use a meat grinder normally. I gave it to my daughter. I do not know. I'll have to ask, ask about the impression.
I have Ed. I am very satisfied. Everything is so metallic, monumental. Sometimes there are urges to change for something new, but they are not looking for good from the good, so let it be already there.
Sasha55
And my Aksyusha has been serving for many years and has not broken a single sleeve on the meat itself, but the sleeve flew on the leaves, bought the spare in some SC, and they turned out to be left, broke right there, I had to order at the factory. The factory logo is stuffed on the sleeve. And these did not. So that it would not be so offensive to pay for the delivery because of the penny bushings, I ordered another splash screen and another grater for a shredder. And, by the way, the shredder did a very good job in the harvesting season, but in everyday life it is lazy to get it out because of two carrots, of course. In general, I give 5+ to a meat grinder. My husband sharpened his knives on a nude skin.
Samopal
kartinka, Marina, I have an Axion with all the harnesses, I bought it for a stock (I was lucky in my time). I regularly cut salads on shredders, because in normal ones I always injure my fingers. I make juices from citrus fruits (lemon and oranges). I did not use sausage attachments and juice press (for berries). Not used yet. The herbs are not ground, but the meat is chopped with a bang, including and frozen.
Miranda
I also have Axion, and I haven't worn out the first sleeve, although I use it actively. But I don’t twist the leaves.
Natalia K.
A new model of the Axion M42 meat grinder with an electronic control panel appeared for the girls.

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High-performance meat grinder with reverse function. Also equipped with a powerful motor and a convenient electronic control panel. Has a modern design and high reliability. -reverse function will help to get rid of wrapped on the auger and films
-fast speed of minced meat processing, thanks to the high quality of knives, significant time savings
-a splash screen keeps the kitchen clean
- manufacturer's warranty 2 years
general information
Power
1700 Wt
Performance
120 kg / h
Material
plastic
Dimensions
360x169x340
Weight
no more than 4 kg
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kartinka
That's it, I thought of it for myself, I'll go tomorrow for Aksyusha, if the difference with graters-causal will be up to 500 rubles. Let them be, despite the combine and the juicer. Pieces for sausage, too, although I aimed at the syringe separately, everyone thinks, it's more convenient. So far, so be it, the main thing is to check the knife and order to buy the bushings. And there we'll see how it goes. Although initially only planned to reverse. Now, as I read, I think about the fact that the reverse button - they write - is very close and you can make a mistake by accident. Or so, I'll take all the axions (there seem to be 3 models), turn it on and listen, I'll take the one that will work smoother.
Quote: Rituslya
me on Axion, these bushings flew for one or two.
Here, my daughter has 3 sleeves on the zelmer at once and screwed up (with leaves). And what is Red-Redmond? What model? Initially, I wanted Caso2000 - all brutal iron. But the forum has convinced, already tuned in to the axion and pleases the saber knife. We have looked at all those jambs-backlashes that are in the axion-they are everywhere and dear ones (10-25 thousand) did not have such a thing-that he would take-and ran to the cashier, not letting go. Although all sellers STRONGLY push Bosch - with the same plastic bushings
Ps - but I have enough grates from the old meat grinder





Miranda, here's to me just more for the leaves my husband grumbles-a meat grinder for the leaves of the freezer -for juices and vegetables -and for meat when?
lira3003
I also have Axion, with attachments for juice and sausages. If you don't have a juicer, you can use it. But I suffered for a long time with sausage attachments, then freaked out and ordered a syringe with metal tippers. And I didn't even consider attachments for vegetables, why - if there is a combine? I often use the reverse, it's convenient for me. And there is nothing to be confused. One lever that turns on the machine only in a different position
And my sister brought these sleeves, they are still there. Although at first on the leaves, too, 3 pieces broke. Well this is a consumable, penny. I changed and forgot, but the meat grinder continues to work
Ivanovna5
kartinka, I also have Aksyusha, very happy with her. One sleeve on Ivanushka flew, so I immediately ordered spare 3 by 3 on Ozone, for a penny, let them be.
kartinka
Girls, I got a little sick, then I had to leave, called my daughter, so that she would buy me until 31.01. I decided on the simplest one, the attachments - I will live without them with the combine, but with the reverse, they are over. Left with a maximum of nozzles, here's an axion! my daughter ordered today, now I'm waiting for a call from the store, and after the trip, I have already brought the leaves so that they are ready for tests.
The daughter said that she had been told for a long time how good Bosch was. .. and what is Axion. ..
Sasha55
kartinka, Marina. And other stores don't have the model you want? Ozone sells, technopoint, dns, and you can buy it at the factory. There seems to be a choice. Well, or wait a little, when exactly those that you need will do. Or already married no strength to wait?
Twig
Sasha55, Sasha, they already have the leaves prepared, the teas must be twisted

kartinka
Quote: Twig

Sasha55, Sasha, they already have the leaves prepared, the teas must be twisted
Sasha55, in an online store, delivery is paid the same week of waiting, it's better to wait a little here. ...
lira3003
Quote: kartinka
I decided on the simplest one, nozzles, without them I will live with a combine, but with a reverse, but they are over
Apparently, those who read in the bushes have bought everything
Sasha55
Quote: kartinka
is the delivery paid
Bezslonno, you have to choose what is more profitable. Delivery is very expensive. Therefore, I love technopoint-dns.
kartinka
lira3003,
Sasha55
I did not find a separate topic on Axions, so I will write here. I don’t exclude the fact that I have crooked hands. Yesterday I decided to make raspberry juice using a juicer. The horror is terrible. It flowed from everywhere, but not from where it should. What should have been cake turned out to be mashed potatoes with bones. Conclusion: you can't get juice from berries. Perhaps apples or tomatoes will work out, I don't know, but I won't try, since I have a garden for apples, and I'll grind the tomatoes with handles through a sieve. Sorry. The plans were big.
Admin
Quote: Sasha55
turned out puree with bones

I have Zelmer. But this is practically the same as Axion - twin brothers.

Question: which attachment did you use?
This nozzle not intended for juicing... It is called "tomato puree" and will always be puree.

Choosing an electric meat grinder

Choosing an electric meat grinder

Choosing an electric meat grinder

The same will happen with apples.

Choosing an electric meat grinder

Grinder testing here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_content&task=view&id=1366.html#
Crown
and I'll grind the tomatoes with handles through a sieve.
At first I also tried to wipe it, but I didn’t like this business, now I am punching it with a submersible blender.
Twig
I'm embarrassed to ask, why are cake and juice collected in one container in the photo?
Choosing an electric meat grinder
Here, through the screw nozzle, the currants have been processed. But then, really, Kitchenade :)
The photo is not very informative, but the cake is dry enough, shaped sausages.
Admin
Quote: Twig
and cake and juice are collected in one container?

It was a demonstration, testing of a meat grinder, its attachments. In order not to produce the number of cups that may not be included in the photo frames.

In life, you do not need to do this, we take two containers and separate the mashed potatoes from the cake.
Sasha55
Admin, Tatyana, the Axion attachment is called the "juicer" in the passport. And even recipes for cranberry and sea buckthorn juice are given. The design is completely similar to the same attachment for a manual meat grinder. There were such in Soviet times. My aunt used it to make amazing apple juice. But I just wanted berry juice, but I failed. Again I will write that I do not exclude that I messed up somewhere myself, although I do not understand where. I put everything together correctly. But the juice flowed from all the holes at once, and there is no such dry cake like Veta's. Puree, as in your photo. Hairstyle with bones. Of course, I liked those drops of juice that dripped into the desired glass. Thick with pulp. But 100 ml of it came out of 1 liter of berries, the rest was thrown away? For this I wrote. If anyone doubts whether this attachment is needed, the answer is more likely no than yes.




Here is a photo of the passport
Choosing an electric meat grinder
Admin
Quote: Sasha55
do i need this nozzle

You need it - if you need to squeeze out tomato puree and then boil it. I call this attachment "for tomatoes", for this I bought it - for tomato paste.
Tomatoes through a nozzle (we get tomato puree, namely puree without a peel), plus salt, spices, boil in a saucepan and get delicious tomato paste Such a paste is made from tomato puree. And not from strained tomato juice.
There are juicers for juice, especially screw juicers, they squeeze juice perfectly.

This nozzle is not intended for anything else - only tomatoes
Sasha55
Quote: Admin
There are juicers for juice, especially screw juicers, they squeeze juice perfectly.
My nozzle is the auger juicer. So, as it is connected to the auger of the meat grinder itself and inside it is another smaller auger and a filter mesh. Therefore, the tomato juice on it turns out to be very liquid, ghostly, obviously not suitable for mashed potatoes. Or it will take a very long time to boil it down.
Astrologina
Girls, here I was making granulated lemon balm tea. My husband left, only a Soviet-era meat grinder was available, on which L-grad is written ... I'm not talking about the fact that I hadn't pumped my muscles for a long time ... I'll draw your attention to the fact that the meat grinder warmed up decently (if not say, it got hot), and after all this difficult procedure, neither the knife nor the body inside was washed. And all this says about the sad process of interaction between the parts of the meat grinder and the grass. And the hope that a short contact of the meat grinder with the grass would not leave traces did not help me. As a result, I realized that I wanted a meat grinder. And I want a stainless steel. Because I really liked the tea and I want more!
But I don't want aluminum or corrosion. However, neither manufacturers nor online stores provide complete information!
I examined the axion, after a long examination I realized that this is also far from stainless steel ...
Any advice please! What do we have 18/10 stainless steel?
Crown
I never use a meat grinder to chop vegetables / fruits / berries precisely because of oxidation. The only exception was the onion for minced meat, I scrolled it along with the meat, but now, after purchasing a wonderful TNS-3000 grater, I don't even put onions into a meat grinder.
The Zelmer's iron is also "aggressive" to the flora. :-)
Astrologina
Quote: CroNa
I never use a meat grinder to chop vegetables / fruits / berries precisely because of oxidation.
Yes, here I was just, as they say, the demon beguiled.
I found here a mechanical steel meat grinder 18/10 of the German company Kuchenprofi. Probably, you just have to involve your husband in the work.
Admin
Quote: CroNa
Have Zelmerov iron is also "aggressive" to flora.

What is it suddenly, where does this infa come from?
It processes everything perfectly, without any oxidation, just lay
Testing here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_content&task=view&id=1366.html
Astrologina
Quote: Admin
What is it suddenly, where does this infa come from?
I also read in the reviews that the metal is not the best there. It rusts.
Admin

There is a difference between "I read" and the fact that I have been using Zelmer for 2 years. On request, I can show pictures of all parts of the meat grinder - which ones do you need?
Astrologina
Admin, I want 18/10 stainless steel))))) ... I believe Zelmer is a great car. But how will she make friends with the grass, which most meat grinders chew with difficulty (even if the manual meat grinder is heated up to impossibility) and will it not oxidize? What is the metal of the auger, the inner space in contact with the product, nozzles?
E.V.A.75
Astrologina, perfectly grinds grass in bunches
Admin
See here Meat grinder CASO FW 2000

Material Aluminum, will never rust and turn black

Astrologina
I am very skeptical about aluminum. During the Soviet era, research was carried out on the topic of aluminum. And they, this information, immediately classified. Because then we would have to immediately withdraw from the sale the aluminum pans, for which our counters were famous at that time. And then - everything, down to the potassium-aluminum alum .... Why I know that - a friend of my husband's took part in the research.
Are there really no electric meat grinders made of high-quality steel at all?
Crown
Admin, I asked on the Zelmer website, our meat grinders have a knife and grates made of aluminum alloy and they deteriorate from water. Therefore, after use, they must be immediately wiped dry, otherwise they will darken, and some even rust.
And since they react to water, then even more so to acid. :-(
julia_bb
Now all meat grinders are mainly made of silumin and aluminum. From steel food will be much more expensive
Admin
Quote: CroNa
in our meat grinders, the knife and grates are made of aluminum alloy and they deteriorate from water.

Knives and grates should always be wiped after washing, with any meat grinder, proven by experience, even with Kenwood and Bosch (by the way, they also have aluminum parts and do not work worse because of this).

I will not say anything more, since my Zelmer is already two years old, and plows perfectly, and all spare parts are in excellent condition
Anchic
Quote: CroNa
the knife and grates are made of aluminum alloy and they deteriorate from water. Therefore, after use, they must be immediately wiped dry, otherwise they will darken, and some even rust.
If the knife and grate rusts, then this indicates that they are not made of aluminum, but of steel. Aluminum does not rust in principle. It oxidizes in air and becomes covered with an oxide film, which reliably protects it from rust. Aluminum can darken from alkalis, like. I don't know how it interacts with acids. I have a domestic meat grinder Ratep. It has the main parts of an aluminum alloy (body, auger and a union nut). Knife and grate made of steel that can rust. So I wipe it dry immediately. Mom used to very regularly grind lemons in a meat grinder (she mixed them with honey and then added them to the porridge). This did not leave any traces in the meat grinder.
Crown
I will not say anything more, since my Zelmer is already two years old, and plows perfectly, and all spare parts are in excellent condition
It's not about the state of the meat grinder - iron is iron, what will it be :-) - it's about health. I am not ready to expose him to unnecessary unwanted influences and therefore
I never use a meat grinder to chop vegetables / fruits / berries precisely because of oxidation.
I prefer to use guaranteed stainless steel.
And by the way, the case itself also darkens from water and detergents.In reviews on the internet I saw a photo of a meat grinder after a dishwasher. A heartbreaking sight. (from) :-)
Admin
Quote: CroNa
I saw a photo of a meat grinder after a dishwasher

Because you don't need to put everything in the dishwasher. Tablets for washing are very aggressive in composition, and for a very long time they do not rinse off the dishes, leaving stains that cannot be washed off. Only for this reason I do not use a dishwasher, in general, there was someone to give it to, that is, to give the BOSH dishwasher as a gift
What is the need to stick all the details of the meat grinder into the dishwasher? There are a lot of appliances that are contraindicated in the dishwasher.

And the meat grinder is perfectly cleaned with ordinary dishwashing detergent, warm water, an ordinary sponge, and then I put it on the wire rack to dry, wipe the knife and wire rack with a paper towel. Time for this action will take about 10 minutes.

And when you treat the meat grinder adequately, then the protective layer from the metal will not be removed (due to our negligence), then it will serve regularly for many years without problems
julia_bb
Admin, I fully support. Meat grinder and spare parts are not washed in the dishwasher. But I only twist meat on it, for other products, there are other appliances
Miranda
Quote: Admin
Tablets for washing are very aggressive in composition, and for a very long time they are not washed off the dishes, leaving stains that cannot be washed off. For this reason alone, I do not use a dishwasher at all
There are a variety of dishwasher cleaners out there, all bio, hypoallergenic, or Japanese excellent. And not tablets, but powders, less powder is needed, and washes not old dishes better than by hand. They are, of course, more expensive, but if you look at how much water is consumed, it is still cheaper, because my half-life PMM takes 7 liters of cold water per cycle for a pile of dishes. This is comparable if you take a basin of water, turn off the tap and wash everything in the basin. And if the water flows from the tap in a medium stream constantly until you wash everything, then wash the glass - a couple of liters, and the pile of dishes is many times larger, and not cold, but hot.

However, I don’t wash my meat grinder in the dishwasher. Not everything can be washed there, not all spoons and forks, and other seemingly iron, albeit completely without funds, but drive the water away.
LiudmiLka
Quote: Astrologina
Are there really no electric meat grinders made of high-quality steel at all?
I have a stainless steel Mulinex, the knife is generally self-sharpening. And people on YouTube grind the grass for tea with mulinexes. They are very different models, with different attachments and functions. The choice is very large. I prefer any technique that is more powerful and more functional, but if only for grass and meat, then you can choose a simpler model, since there is a choice.

Admin
Quote: Miranda
There are a variety of dishwasher products available,

There is.

I have tried many, spent a lot of money, and none of the remedies suits, we passed.But, this is another topic for conversation
And just in general, I have no desire to talk about dishwashers, I am fine today without them.
Astrologina
Quote: LiudmiLka
I have a stainless steel Mulinex, the knife is generally self-sharpening. And people on YouTube grind grass for tea with mulinexes

LiudmiLka, what brand do you have Moulinex? The grate is also made of stainless steel, or is it just the auger and the body inside?
Aluminum interacts with acids and eats up the protective oxide film easily. I'm just very interested in health. Why do I need grass then, albeit very tasty
I still want to make sweets from dried fruits in a meat grinder. I did it on the Soviet one (another, not the one that oxidized from the grass), as soon as I unscrewed the front nut this big one, I immediately lost the desire to make candy ...
I wrote to the company, where I found a mechanical meat grinder made of 18/10 steel, but they are somehow silent.




I also found a Philips HR2709 meat grinder. The tray is plastic, but that doesn't really bother me. Stainless steel auger and grate.
LiudmiLka
hv8 2000w with screw attachment for juices and purees. There is an auger, grates, a knife made of the best steel (I don't even wipe them). Plus good quality plastic. There are models with a metal case, but I have a plastic one.
In general, I am a fan of Mulinex - if something from the kitchen equipment of this company is in our stores, I definitely take this particular brand.
By the way, I'm not afraid of aluminum. The worst thing for me is plastic, or rather its use for other purposes.
Astrologina
Thank you)) I do not know what is the name of the inner part, inside which the auger is spinning, I am interested, is it from what?
Aluminum is a carcinogen. True, plastic can be good too ...
Posted by Moulinex. Waiting for an answer.
LiudmiLka
There, all the parts that come into contact with the products are steel, except for the auger for the auger juicer - it is made of white ceramics.
Crown
Quote: LiudmiLka

There, all the parts that come into contact with the products are steel, except for the auger for the auger juicer - it is made of white ceramics.
What a nice car!
Surely a grater-vegetable cutter approaches or comes with it. Not?

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