Editor13
Well, ladies, I bought my 1588 Zelmer. We haven't tested it yet, but I think very soon. First impressions from unboxing are positive. Dense plastic, double-edged knife, three grids and a sausage attachment. When buying, they turned it on - I was amazed at the absence of a jet at the start. Well, not Moulinex at all, quite a smooth start is also good, but the reverse, at first thinks, as if doubting the command, and then turns on. Here's a thing.
ANGELINA BLACKmore
Quote: Editor13
was struck by the lack of a jet at launch. Well, not Moulinex at all, quite a smooth start is also good, but the reverse, at first thinks, as if doubting the command, and then turns on.
So we admire Zelmer for these characteristics. To the ambassador of the turbojet hum of Mulinex, Zelmer's voice seemed to me like a dog-T-her))
Tatka O
Good evening everyone!
I read the forum and decided on the meat grinder. Axion M 31.01. I decided to immediately order the auger sleeve so as not to worry, since I don't know the complete set yet (the website does not say that they will be in stock). On one of the sites of spare parts, I found that the sleeve can be with or without holes. What is this meat grinder? I want to order in advance, while the online store is still issued, delivered ...
Tell me who can)))
Natalia K.
Quote: Tatka O
On one of the sites of spare parts, I found that the sleeve can be with or without holes.
Tatyana, I do not understand your question
I bought Axion in DNSe, and took spare bushings there.
Tatka O
I found a meat grinder in Eldorado, I want a black one))) There are no bushings there. Found in spare parts. There are two options

I wanted to insert a link, I can't. So the pictures, I hope I don't break the rules?
Choosing an electric meat grinder
Choosing an electric meat grinder

Mila56
Quote: Tatka O
There are two options
Tatyana, I have Axion 31.02. The bushing, and in the complete set there are 3 pieces and they are called there - a safety cap. It (sleeve) has 4 holes, as in the first photo. I bought a meat grinder in DNS.
gala10
Tatka O, yesterday bought a friend Axion 31.02 in DNS. In Eldorado it is 1000 more expensive. Spare bushings are included.
Elena Bo
When I bought my Axion, I also thought to take additional protective caps. But so far none of them have broken, so those that come with the grinder will last for a long time.
Mila56
Quote: Elena Bo
But so far, none have broken
And I have a whole stock, mmm
Miranda
My yellow Axion 31.01 is already 1 year and 9 months old.
The package included 3 spare bushings, but also the main one did not wear out

I use it 1-3 times a week. Cuts quickly and that's all, I'm happy.
Natalia K.
Tatyana, I have a yellow Axion 31.01.
This is the complete set of my meat grinder
Choosing an electric meat grinderChoosing an electric meat grinder
Editor13
Well, today it's time to check the purchased Zelmer 1588 at work. I will say right away that I did not hear the noise familiar to Moulinex (I already wrote about this), we can say that the device makes quite a comfortable sound. The task before him was not very difficult - to twist the fillet of the Indian thigh, the head of the onion and that's it. The fillet was of course boneless, but with films. Result: the device eats the pulp quite quickly, just have time to throw in new rations. I didn’t stop, but I didn’t play it to the end, I left a couple of pieces for my four-legged friend. This left a little bit of a residue, but perhaps I should have skipped the last piece of onion, but ... What's done is done. The general impressions are positive, the auger is inserted into the housing a bit tough, but maybe it's new and then developed, we'll see.
So thanks for the hint in the choice.
A-liona
The first time I will do minced meat in a meat grinder.Tell me, in what order should I put the products, please?)
Editor13
Is there a sequence? You will then mix everything. I think that there is no priority as such, although given my today's experience - the last one should go a product that will push all the leftovers of meat and will not remain there.
A-liona
Suddenly there is) thanks
Anchic
I push the meat with a small amount of minced meat.
Tatka O
Nataliya and the rest who answered, thanks! I was guided by the sites and their information, in reality everything turned out differently. I ordered a black one in DNS. But in the database they do not have sausage attachments, but for the husband this is the main thing))) In the red one. They'll bring it, I'll see, if there is, then I'll get it and I will be happy (pah-pah-pah).
Natalia K.
Quote: Tatka O
I ordered a black one in DNS.
Tatyana, if the equipment does not suit you, then you have the right to refuse the meat grinder. Good luck
Rada-dms
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The first time I will do minced meat in a meat grinder. Tell me, in what order should I put the products, please?)
If the cutlets are classic, then first meat, then onions and chopped greens, at the end soaked and squeezed bread. The bread will clean everything.
Admin
Quote: A-liona
Tell me in what order to lay the products

I alternate between pieces of meat and slices of onions, the last I skip a crust of bread (any), only to push through the rest of the meat. I don’t put bread from a meat grinder into minced meat, I throw it away.

If you need fried onions, then intersperse it with meat.

Soaked bread, add greens to the finished minced meat. I chop the greens very finely with a knife, as a rule it is only fresh dill.
A-liona
I don't add greens to minced meat. First I scrolled the meat, then the onion, a little cabbage and half the potatoes. I washed everything, and there were two rusty dots on the knife ((I soaked the knife and the grate in oil, then wiped it off, wrapped it in napkins and in a bag. I tried to do everything quickly so that the meat grinder would not stand for a long time, maybe I read about rust on knives. can not be twisted so that there is no rust?
Anchic
Alyona, rust from use could not appear so quickly. It was already there. Did you clean it off?
A-liona
I almost always look under a microscope)))) there was no rust on the new knife, it itself became darker. I didn't clean off the rust, tell me how?)
Anchic
Alyona, I would clean it with fine sandpaper. Or ask your husband. Simply, if left, it will gradually corrode the metal.

Now I read it - you can use vinegar or citric acid. It is necessary to soak in them for several hours.
Editor13
This is how I have it:Choosing an electric meat grinder
Choosing an electric meat grinder
-Elena-
Hello everyone! Today I tested my brand new Axion 31-01 meat grinder, one to one like NataliaK... Well what I want to say. Collected, turned on, began to scroll the veal. True, it was with films, but cut into pieces. Immediately began to crumple the meat My heart fell. And if you consider that on the weekend I took Zelmer 886-84 from a neighbor to play Ivan-tea (which she coped with 5+), then you can imagine my disappointment with Axion. But the daughter insisted on disassembling and reassembling. And then a miracle happened! She ground everything, there were some films left on the knife, then zucchini and pieces of dry baguette.
About the sound. Compared to my old Flora (she is already 25 years old) it works much quieter. Of course Zelmer whispers at all, but for me the noise is not important. In a week I will try to grind Ivan tea leaves.
Conclusion. A good grinder. Although the husband at first very much doubted the quality. Like, there can be no good thing for that kind of money. But, having felt and turned it, I took my words back. And if you consider that I bought it on Ozone with bonuses Thanks from SB for 1200 rubles, then I am quite happy with the purchase.
Natalia K.
Elena, Congratulations
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But the daughter insisted on disassembling and reassembling.
And what happened? Guess the knife was wrong?
Quote: -Elena-
And then a miracle happened! She ground everything, there were some films left on the knife, then zucchini and pieces of dry baguette.
That's great that I ground it.
Quote: -Elena-
In a week I will try to grind Ivan tea leaves.
We look forward to your impressions.
Miranda
-Elena-the knife must have been placed in a wrong way at first.
I also have yellow

Let it serve for a long time!
Natalia K.
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Immediately I began to crush the meat. My heart sank.
Elena, by the way, I have one very good forum member, which also scared everyone to death with the breakdown of the meat grinder.
I am giving you her story about the breakdown

Quote: gala10
And today my new Axion meat grinder ... broke ... I tried to twist a beef heart - it doesn't. And that's it !!! After half an hour of torment, I noticed a meat grinder lying on the side of the table separately ... It turns out that I forgot about it when I was assembling the device.
I put it all together again, and now she, darling, scrolled everything in a moment, leaving no remnants inside herself !!!
You can now neigh with me, yeah.
Miranda
I looked at Ozon to see how much Axion was there, and there was expanse on the west. parts, and a separate set of nozzles. Moreover, it will be cheaper to buy 31 models without everything and buy drums with a juicer. Although, depending on where to buy, of course
Tatka O
I bought Axion on 31.01. I am very satisfied, everything is fine. But I had already changed the cap))) There remained a half-dried loaf, so he forced me to such a procedure. But now I know how to do it and when.
Natalia K.
Quote: Tatka O
Bought Axion 31.01
Tatyana, Congratulations
A-liona
but tell me, please, can you twist the currants in a meat grinder? in manual, you can)))))
Admin

Can!
I missed berries and plums, it turns out great
A-liona
and what is the lattice?
Admin

It depends on where and for what to apply berries later
I cooked the plums in pieces, like jam, and ground them on a medium wire rack.

The choice is yours
A-liona
Thank you very much, otherwise it’s scary to be engaged in amateur performances, without experienced advice)
Admin

And what did we ask someone for advice? I came up with an idea, put fresh prunes into a meat grinder, looked at the result and made jam - I liked it

Also:
VEGETABLES mix (onion, apple, eggplant, chili) - for vegetable caviar
FEIJOA FRUIT (fine wire rack) for freezing
PLUM prunes for jam (large wire rack)
Persimmon for jam (large wire rack)

Result and photo here in the review Electric meat grinder Zelmer 987.80 (discussion and reviews)
LiudmiLka
A good jam is made from apples, rolled (along with the peel) in a meat grinder.
-Elena-
Hello everyone! Today I tested my Axion 31.01 for the Ivan-tea scrolling. She coped with 5+! Ikeevsky bowl of leaves (330 g) Choosing an electric meat grinder Spun it in 10 minutes, I couldn't fill it faster. The sticks-boxes are a little slower because of their density. I was very glad that I took a meat grinder with a reverse, because it is convenient to scroll the last portion back and forth.
The conclusion is this: the power of 230 W is enough for both meat and leaves. Earlier I wrote that I tested Zelmer for Ivan-tea. So, I do not regret at all that I bought Axion. And she makes no critical noise, my old lady Flora was much louder.
Miranda
-Elena-, well
I always rejoice when Axion is praised, because I have him and I love him.

But 230W is not always there, in the sense that the maximum is 1500W, if necessary.
-Elena-
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230W is not always there, in the sense, the maximum is 1500W, if necessary
This is a "dark forest" for me
Ivanovna5
And I came to give Axion what he deserves. Having in my arsenal already 6 years working Belvar, I decided to buy another meat grinder, and my choice fell on Axion. And how am I glad that thanks to the reviews of the forum users, I bought it! Love happened from the first application, which I cannot say about Belwar. I used it, but all the time I regretted choosing it. Aksyusha is clever, she is different, more convenient: the body of the meat grinder is attached to the motor unit very simply and reliably, the raw material captures and promotes better, there is a reverse, the cord and grates are removed into the body. Now Ivanushka is harvesting, he copes with grinding "with a bang" with all the raw materials without any problems. True, I have already changed one cap on the "Fuzzy" blank, that is, when scrolling the seed pods (they were slightly dried).I will definitely order spare caps so that it does not stand idle, if I suddenly overload it with something again, fortunately, this is not a problem, the caps are constantly on sale, and replacement takes 30 seconds. I haven't tested any attachments yet, their turn has not come, and there is nothing new in them, they are identical to Belvarov ones, I use them only when harvesting autumn ones. And there is a separate citrus juicer, so it was not removed from the box either.
So the virgins who are faced with the choice of an electric meat grinder-shredder-juicer, pay your attention to Axion. A wonderful and reliable multifunctional assistant! And not dear !!! Well sooo I like it !!!




I decided to add something to my post, since this is an important moment in choosing an email address. meat grinder. If only the shredders worked perfectly for Belvar, and the meat grinder itself, simply, was exhausting me when turning the meat for minced meat, then Aksyusha only makes me happy. Now I don’t bother to thoroughly prepare the meat for twisting, that is, I don’t clean it from films and veins. So, I slightly remove what is clearly asking for removal, and she grinds everything in seconds !!! The time depends, of course, on the amount of meat. I also really liked the splash guard. I twisted tomatoes, bell peppers and carrots, the table and I remained clean, and the cap was filled with juice from the inside.
Only one thing is a little annoying - there is no mill, like Zelmer. Although until now I somehow did not need it, I managed to use a coffee grinder. And for all those who wish and have Axion, I give a link to the spare parts store for Axion:

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-Elena-
Ivanovna5, Anna! Congratulations on your purchase! Let this meat grinder please you for many years!
Samopal
Ivanovna5, Congratulations on your purchase. Now I advise you to purchase a knife and stainless steel nets, (for not at all expensive) for a cleaner product. On the chernaya rechka metro station in the underground passage.
Natalia K.
Quote: Samopal
Now I advise you to purchase a knife and stainless steel nets, (for not at all expensive) for a cleaner product.
Oleg, how much is it? Maybe I'll need it too?
Samopal
Natalia K.Look at Ozone, 200-250 p. for a knife, for a set of nets.
Natalia K.
Oleg, Thank you.
gennadiy67smirnov
Alex100And I ran into these comrades ...
I ordered a Panasonic mk1800 meat grinder from them, a couple of hours later they called back and confirmed the order. I tried to find out from them why the prices were so low than everyone else on the market, but I did not hear anything intelligible. When the parcel arrived, it turned out - I paid more than 10 thousand rubles for a used copy that stinks of fish! There were no documents, nothing with the package!
I tried to contact the site administration - zero. You can't get through by phone, they don't answer letters. I looked for their details on the site, and there is nothing there. For me 10 thousand is serious money. I will write an application to the court and Rospotrebnadzor to close them to hell. In addition, on the Internet, I found a lot of negative reviews for this online store. We will try to file a class action lawsuit.

I ask everyone who suffered at the hands of these scammers to write in private messages on the forum or in the mail.
Samopal
gennadiy67smirnov, Maybe in the topic about scams you will make a message https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...=com_smf&topic=23677.2480

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