Natalia K.
Quote: Vasselisa
meat grinder Breeze Axion
So it's the same thing. They are produced by one plant in Izhevsk.
A lot has been written for Axion.
vaselisa
Quote: Natalia K.

So it's the same thing. They are produced by one plant in Izhevsk.
A lot has been written for Axion.
I have read it, but I would like to know about this model.
Natalia K.
Lovethen wait. Maybe some of the girls have such a model. And you will definitely be answered.
vaselisa
Quote: Natalia K.

Lovethen wait. Maybe some of the girls have such a model. And you will definitely be answered.
Hope!
Alena Besha
I really like our Zelmer (like Admin in the review, only an older model - I only have 1 grill in the kit, not 3). Also with citrus press, tomato press, shredding drums, sausage attachments and kebabs. Having such, you can safely do without a combine - the drums shred perfectly! (y) Only there is no place to mix products, so of course the harvester cannot replace 100%. Of the minuses - I don't like to twist the tomato. Well, very wet cake (compared to manual presses for tomatoes, the difference is big). I know that some meat grinders (Gorenje, for example, have such a sister-in-law) - have a regulator of the degree of extraction, that is, you can get either completely dry cake or wet cake at the exit. I really miss such a function. The rest is lovely, not a meat grinder! I definitely recommend it!
Innushka
after reading this topic a little I realized that (zelmer) is a decent company)))
And it doesn't matter which model you have a meat grinder, it justifies itself.
Admin
Quote: Innushka
And it doesn't matter which model you have a meat grinder

Yes, there are many different modifications.
The choice will depend on what is supposed to be done on it.

I was satisfied with all the attachments, all in circulation

Quote: I do not like to twist the tomato. Well, very wet cake
Well, this nozzle does not imply dry cake. This is more for rubbing mashed tomatoes (or even apples!) For further boiling down to mashed potatoes, ketchup and so on and so forth.

In principle, my meat grinder appeared only because of this press ... but it turned out that a flour grinder and citrus fruits were also attached to it ... just a mini harvester of some kind
Alena Besha
Admin, Tanyusha, thanks for the clarification about the tomato press!) I bought a meat grinder ... ... so as not to lie ... 4 years ago, long before the disgusting events in our area. We have a private house there - during the conservation period, my meat grinder helped me out a lot! It was just bought in a fit of hamster, and the presence of all kinds of shredders only made me happy. At that moment, I was not yet a member of the forum, I didn't really think about the functionality, but during the operation the unit showed itself very well and the price was also justified. I do not regret a single drop! And as for wet cake, everyone has their own criterion for a "correct" tomato, plus you get used to which tomato comes out of a simple Soviet manual meat grinder))) So I don't argue - with great respect to your professional opinion
By the way, I want to ask - can you tell me where it is better to look or order a set of grates for such a meat grinder? I have a medium, versatile, but I will gladly buy large and small.
Admin
Quote: Alena Besha
where is it better to see or order a set of grates for such a meat grinder?

Alyona, accessories can be ordered on an Internet, on sites that sell meat grinders Zelmer - I have already drawn attention to this

And the attachments, the degree of grinding-cutting - that's how you like it, I have no complaints
Alena Besha
Admin, thanks, I'll see
Natalia K.
Girls, I have a question.
Who has 2 Axion and Zelmer meat grinders at home?
prubul
Admin Tell me, Tanya, is Zelmer's grates and knives oxidizing?
Admin

I read about it.
But my knives are still intact. After washing, I dry them with a napkin and let them dry just on the table, store them separately.
And just in general, I also want to buy a set of knives and gratings - let them be

I am completely satisfied with all the other attachments.
prubul
The mill is just super-super !!! See what video I found: girl-swoon: my Bosch is choking on films
Olka D
Girls, I want to give my mother an inexpensive electric meat grinder for the New Year, without a lot of attachments, my choice was Axion 25, 31, 32, Scarlett SC-MG45S42 and Polaris PMG 1828, they are all in approximately the same price range, help me choose. While I'm looking at Scarlett, bad reviews are common in all.
Admin

What's wrong with Zelmer? Look how the bones are processed into minced meat
I am very happy with Zelmer

https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_content&task=view&id=1366.html&Itemid=296
Olka D
Tatyana, I really like the zelmer, but in the store where I choose the zelmer is very expensive, my budget is up to and a little more than 3, so the choice is small and specific.


Added on Monday 19 Dec 2016 08:11 PM

Tanya. looked at the review - a very good unit, but my mother does not understand everything. she already has a vegetable cutter, a screw juicer, I buy everything for her, but she does not use it, but she promised to use the meat grinder, so the simplest one is needed
Admin
Olya, in Moscow, do a search for Zelmer on the Internet, there are very simple models, only meat grinders, without different attachments.
And the price for a simple m / cabin will be easier. The choice is very large
Olka D
Tatyana, I also want to use bonuses, so there is only one store. and there is a choice of zelmer, but half is not available
Miranda
Olka D, I am for Axion
amateur goth
: ded_m: axion
Olka D
Miranda, came back on the topic back and saw your report on Axion, in general an infectious forum, I choose my mother, but I also wanted to, I have a meat grinder in a Bosch combine, I was always happy with it. but in the summer she spun apples on mashed potatoes, she stayed with me a couple of times, I had to rest. But my mother decided to buy on 31.01, because by 32 one display case.
As for the sausage baits, I hope. that I'm lucky, I noticed on the boxes (in your photos), where the attachments go - on the case it says Made in Russia, and where not - without the inscription. If there are sausage attachments in the kit, I will try on my own, it will fit, I will leave it to myself.
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gala10
Olga, I am also very pleased with my Axion. Not a meat grinder - a beast! And there are practically no leftovers of meat.
Miranda
Olka D, good choice, great grinder.
Hope you get it with the nozzles!
Swetie
Dear members of the forum, has anyone used the UNIT UGR-458 meat grinder?
Olka D
I took the Axion 31.01 meat grinder, as I expected in the last batches, starting from 2015, they put attachments for sausage and kebbe in the kit, I have September 2016, I came across a new batch. I checked that everything is fine in the kit: add. grates, attachments. I wanted to carry it home, but it turned out to be heavy, put it in the car, my husband would bring it, a store next to her husband's work. Therefore, I will thoroughly check tomorrow.
Natalia K.
Olka D, Olga, Congratulations . An excellent choice I also have Axion 31.01, I am very happy with it
Olka D
Natalia K., thank you all for your help, for me it was the best choice, but I bought it for my mother for the new year, while I try it myself, I will cook the sausages, I have had intestines for sausages for 2 weeks. I wanted a separate mold for myself, but a meat grinder with attachments turned up. so I'll check at the same time
Miranda
Olka D, great, what happened with the sausage attachments!
I kept thinking what the principle was, and came to two versions - either only for colored ones with attachments (I have yellow ones), or in general for all new ones. So, just all new ones.

If you do not need different add. nozzles, but only a purely meat grinder, then Axion 31.01 is the most optimal purchase now for money and quality.

If money is not a problem, then of course there is more choice.

Tell me later how you like the meat grinder
Another opinion is always good.
Olka D
Miranda, I also wanted a nozzle, and in the photo of the store there was a black one with nozzles (they were inside the pusher), but when she asked my mother what color she chose, she chose white, since black "she can't see anything." I ordered white (there were two options: white and black), although personally I really liked the yellow, boring one. And when I already ordered, I read in detail the characteristics on the website of the white one, and there, it was clearly indicated about the attachments, while the black one, on the contrary, did not. In general, these attachments were a surprise for me.
And for the price, I took for bonuses, it came out to me very cheaply 785 rubles)))
Miranda
Quote: Olka D
85 rubles)

Free for a meat grinder!

Mila56
Quote: gala10
I am also very pleased with my Axion. Not a meat grinder - a beast!
And I am very happy. I have Axion series 31, now I twisted more than 5 kg (weighed in ready-made form) of beef and pork, and at least something in a meat grinder. Now in the Lenta you can buy a REDMOND RMG-1231 meat grinder for chips + money. Its power is 300/800 W. , and in Axion 230/1500 W. I think I can buy it as a gift. Can anyone give a review about it? Of course, there are reviews on the Internet and they are positive. But I trust our forum much more.
svstasya
It is clear that Axion is praised, and does anyone use Belvar (Belarusian) Assistant from members of the forum?
tanushenka
I recently bought Axion 41-01 (thanks to members of the forum for the feedback) to replace the burned out Belwar. The old meat grinder worked for 12 years, but given that I did not grind meat every day for a month ((((, and so there were no complaints about her work, the meat grinded well (she always took frozen), though noisy, for me there are a lot of unnecessary attachments, Axion is quieter and grinds non-frozen meat without problems
Kestrel
Girls (and boys) give your opinion:
now, at my leisure, I actively climb through the markdown departments of all sorts of salesmen, my envious eyes, hands ... In general, I dream (more precisely, I PLAN).
tell me, did someone compare, maybe they already chose, between Axion 41. and 31?
Given:
1) 31.01 model - 2000 "rupees", guarantee until 25.10.17.
2) 41.02 model 2360 of the same deneH, "full stuffing" ffsiachnyh nozzles, nafig I do not need, although .. my handles, grabbing handles ... let it budettt BUT! warranty until 23.06.17.
What I want - more power, nozzles - ff firebox, but I also know how important a guarantee is, especially for a markdown, 3 months - not huhry muhry. Yes, and these 300 rubles play a role in my budget, in proportion to the price these gadgets.
So QUESTION:
To Axion owners:
How important is the power difference between the 31 and 41 models?
I'm worried only about power and warranty
Helen
Quote: Kestrel
I'm worried only about power and warranty
and why take a steam bath under warranty .. I generally took on Avito, without any guarantee 41, but more powerful and with nozzles ... I'm happy ...
Natalia K.
Quote: Kestrel
How important is the power difference between 31 and 41 models
Anna, no matter how important the difference. I have 31.01 grinds everything.
The attachments were NOT important for me, since there are a bunch of other devices. Well, for these nozzles, you also need a place, which is sorely lacking.
Quote: Helen
but more powerful
Len, I did not notice the difference in power
Helen
Quote: Natalia K.
I didn't notice the difference
have you tested both? the numbers probably have ...
Natalia K.
Quote: Helen
did you test both?
No, I haven't tested both. But I was personally present at the work of 41 models of the meat grinder.
Mila56
Quote: Kestrel
1) 31.01 model - 2000 "rupees", guarantee until 25.10.17.
2) 41.02 model 2360 of the same deneH, "full stuffing" ffsiachikh attachments, nafig I do not need, although .. my handles, grabbing handles ... let it budettt. BUT! warranty until 23.06.17.
31 series (I have one) 1500/230 W. , but 41 series 1700 /? Tue I didn't find what the rated power of the 41 series is, and it is the working power and the more it is, the better. Only with all this, the power declared by the manufacturer does not always correspond to the real one. This applies to any household appliance. You can write a lot of things (promote the brand). Until you try this technique at home and understand if it pulls or does not pull.
Quote: Helen
.. I generally took on Avito, without any guarantee 41,
Elena, and on the box or in pieces of paper somewhere there is data about the rated power? And if it's not a secret, how much did you buy on Avito? I am now looking after another inexpensive (up to 3000 rubles) meat grinder for my mother. But in the Lenta store, they sell Redmond for chips, it's cheaper, only not available yet (dismantled), they promised to bring it. Waiting in the Iceberg store in the discounted price there was a meat grinder Axion 31, black. Indicated flaws - rust of parts. As I understand this about knives and a grate, but they just need to be dried immediately.I wash them, wrap them in a paper napkin and put them on top of the battery (I have them outside).
Quote: Kestrel
2) 41.02 model 2360 of the same deneH, "full stuffing" ffsiachikh attachments, nafig I do not need, although .. my handles, grabbing handles ... let it budettt. BUT! warranty until 23.06.17.
And yet I would take 41 episodes, for trial and for comparison. And during the warranty period, it will already show itself.



Added Wednesday 04 Jan 2017 12:22 pm

Found, the rated power of the Axion 41 series meat grinder is 250 W. Productivity in 31 series 1.7 kg / min. , and in 41 series 2 kg / min.
Helen
Quote: Mila56
1700 /? Tue
250
lena_letochka
Quote: swetie
Dear members of the forum, has anyone used the UNIT UGR-458 meat grinder?

Also interested in this meat grinder ... well, or UNIT UGR-460
Maybe someone uses it?
Rituslya
Devuli, I’ll ask a completely stupid question, but sooo important for me.
There are three grates: small, medium and large.
What meat to scold on dumplings?
I will get an answer and rather erase my confusion, so as not to completely disgrace myself.
Admin

Small or medium
How much you like the grind.

It happens that meat is ground twice, passing it through a fine grate - a matter of taste, or as required by the author's recipe.
I grind on dumplings on a shallow grid
Miranda
Rituslya, I'm on average
Helen
Quote: Admin
on a shallow grid
and I'm in the middle ...
Admin
Quote: Rituslya
I will get an answer and rather erase my confusion, so as not to completely disgrace myself.

Why this question sounds quite normal? Won, how many different answers come out!
Rituslya
Admin, Tanya, I'm also grinding it on a shallow one, but it's dry or something. I do not like. And I seem to add fat, but it's not that.
Now I loaded it on the middle one with a bunch of onions, but I don't know ...
Admin
Quote: Rituslya

Admin, Tanya, I'm also grinding it on a shallow one, but it's dry or something. I do not like. And I seem to add fat, but it's not that.
Now I loaded it on the middle one with a bunch of onions, but I don't know ...

Be sure to add onions in the slicing.
And be sure to add water or broth to the minced meat, a lot - then knead well so that the minced meat is almost liquid, it will stand and absorb the liquid. The broth will give a lot of liquid when cooking

look here
Choosing an electric meat grinderUralskie dumplings without haste: from cooking to frying
(Admin)
Masha Ivanova
Rituslya, Rita! And I like minced meat in cutlets and dumplings, large or medium, and onions are always small-small. I hate large pieces of onion, neither in dumplings nor in cutlets. Only in large manti can I eat. So this is all the result of personal preference. And the minced meat, if it is scrolled on a fine grid, will be denser, the large one will be looser and the dumplings will be juicier.

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