Rada-dms
They broke us all day, pledged to bring us before 1 pm, still not!
The site says that the store is open on Saturday, in reality, not a single phone is answered. Internet shop "Meat grinder-PRO".
Alex100
Rada-dmsYou are not the first one to be rolled by this store

Here are a couple of reviews


A few days later, I placed an order for Becketal 4. But there was no delivery call within a week, I always pay in cash to the courier, so I almost forgot about the order, as it turned out, the online store also forgot. About a week later, I called the specified phone number on the website, decided to find out about my order, they looked at the history, and said that the order was placed, but the managers could not get through a couple of times, although I had no missed calls on my phone, and my order remained "hanging", as they have a lot of pre-New Year orders. I really didn't like this attitude, but I really wanted a meat grinder, and in other stores the prices are higher, and in many in general, many brands are not represented, and even more so Becketal, on which I stopped.

And the manager told us that they would deliver the meat grinder in a day, because it is available.
But the next day they called us and said some nonsense about the incomplete complete set of this meat grinder (!) And they can bring us only in a month !!!
In general, we refused the order and found a meat grinder a little more expensive in another store, where everything is clear.
So I would not recommend this store.





poni
I want to add my plus in favor of Zelmer and thanks to Tanya Admin, on her advice I bought this meat grinder.
Before that, there was Braun and I thought that the best could not be desired, but when I was left without everything, and Braun was not available at a price, and besides the meat grinder itself, other attachments were needed.
The coffee mill is constantly in operation and I like the grinder itself.
Thanks to everyone on our forum who shares their experience.
A-liona
tell me where you buy 987.80? Internet issues Ukrainian sites
Natalia K.
Quote: A-liona
where buy 987.80
Alyona, look here

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A-liona
Thank you, I looked, with delivery complexity (
Editor13
Somehow the whole topic rested on Zelmer, but attention is not focused on the fact that both knives and grates of this device are subject to corrosion, which is not good for food mechanisms. True, this applies not only to Zelmers, but also to other brands and names of devices. So here's the question: what is not done now with stainless steel knives and grates? The second question that arose after reading the last 25 pages of this topic and a similar topic on ixbt - and not one manufacturer bothers with noise isolation either, they all squeal like ...
Natalia K.
Quote: Editor13
and with noise insulation, too, not one manufacturer bothers, they all squeal like ...
Editor13, why bother with her? You don't use a meat grinder for days on end. Well, she will make noise (meat grinder) for 5-7 minutes and okay. This is not critical.
Admin
Zelmer normally "squeals", that is, makes noise. And if you take into account that you can grind meat in a couple of minutes, then you should not pay attention, the main thing is that he copes with this matter efficiently. Blenders squeal harder

And if you take into account the package bundle (if you noticed it from Zelmer's review), then not all branded meat grinders can boast of such a set of necessary applications
And if you take into account the fact that branded meat grinders quickly fly out and break (I will not mention, they are listed in the topic), then Zelmer is a very good assistant in the house. On YouTube you can watch a video of the comparison in the work of several models of meat grinders together with Zelmer - very revealing
And if you consider the cost of Zelmer ... with all the attachments ...very affordable price.
And if you take into account the size of the meat grinder, which, together with the attachments, is placed on one shelf of the cabinet ...

A shaft for a meat grinder with knives and grates can be bought on the Zelmer website, and not so expensive.

And if you take care of the washing of knives and grates, it can last a long time. After washing, I wipe the knife and grate dry with a paper towel, dry it and put it away for storage.

So, choose what is beneficial to you in terms of quality, configuration, size, and cost
Zena
Editor13
Admin, I really need a machine, without attachments, since there are a lot of shredders in the combine, and I see no point in producing them. Now there is Moulinex with all these graters, but they are not used at all ... There is no need for them. There is a desire to buy a new toy, and send him to the dacha settlement. Here you write that Zelmer has an adequate price with all the attachments - well, I don't know, if 12,000 is adequate, then 6 pieces for a Bosch 3640 is not adequate? In fact, indeed, you have to choose according to your needs. But as for Zelmer, how much will the simplest cost? probably not much less than the same Bosch.
Admin
Quote: Editor13
if 12000 is adequate

In the internet, you can buy Zelmer at half this cost And it all depends on the configuration.
I have the most complete set, I bought about 7 thousand rubles.
Miranda
And for a couple of years I have liked Axion very much and completely satisfied
A-liona
Hello. tell me how to care for knives? I know that somewhere in the subject there were tips, but it takes a long time to search
poni
I can't agree that "branded meat grinders quickly fly out and break", because for a long service life there have never been any problems with the Braun electric meat grinder, but in terms of noise when Braun worked, all the cats scattered in the corners, when Zelmer works, there is no such thing, and the price and the equipment is of course in favor of Zelmer.
Editor13
Admin, But you did not buy this season, but several years ago (judging by the topic). Everything was cheaper then.

Miranda, According to your story, did you buy an element blender in due time? In this thread I read your Axion purchase history. It is worth listening to your reasons. Inflate this unit alive.

A-liona, The old grandfather's method: we worked, washed everything, wiped and greased the grate and a knife with vegetable oil. This is how they looked after the manual ones in Soviet times ... But it's the 21st century, and these parts are still rusting ...

poniThis was my initial question about soundproofing - can't expensive brands get confused with Shumka? As for the breaking of branded devices, the percentage of their failures is much lower than that of little-known brands. Brands (meaning large brands) break down, but not often. But at the same time, gone are the days when technology has served for decades. Now it is not at all profitable to make "eternal" devices - no one will stop factories, but overproduction will work out. The result is a crisis of overproduction. Another upsetting thing is that clones and repackaging appear on the market ...
ANGELINA BLACKmore
Quote: Editor13
12000
I don't have only a mill. Zelmer cost me 5 thousand for a share. And there are no problems with a knife and gratings either - mine, wipe, clean - no corrosion.
(I bought a couple of months ago)
Admin
Quote: poni
how to care for knives?

I wash my knives and grates with regular dishwashing detergent. I pierce the grate with a brush or a toothpick so that no food residues remain in the holes. I wash it with clean running water. Then I wipe it dry with a paper towel, and leave it dry on the towel so that the parts are completely dry from moisture. And only then I put it for storage in the compartment of the meat grinder.
You can also wrap each knife and each grate in a dry napkin and store it that way.

It helps me, spare parts are in good condition for all meat grinders
Admin
Quote: Editor13
did not buy this season, but several years ago (judging by the topic)

I bought it last fall.

Axiom made in Russia, a copy of Zelmer in appearance, size
Admin
Overview of the Zelmer meat grinder in comparison with others in terms of function and noise









Editor13
Admin, Thank you. I will consider and unsubscribe about the impressions.
shade
Peace be with you bakers!

Many knives are not suitable for Zelmer.
Let's say we came up from the old manual Sovdepovskoy meat-rolling
Editor13
At the same time, I read about Axion on Ya / M that the knife from someone does not reach the lattice and our people improved it by placing a washer 2 mm thick. Our people are not defeated.))
ANGELINA BLACKmore
Quote: shade
we came up from the old manual Sovdepovskoy meat-rolling
I need to look at the knives from my own .... But in my opinion they are not double-sided, like Zelmer's.
Miranda
Quote: Admin
a copy of Zelmer in appearance, size

most grinders are similar
Like kettles, for example.

For some technique, there is no need to invent a new form.
Color, slightly wider, slightly taller, wire compartment yes / no, handle, etc. are minor details. You can't figure out the company until you read the name.

I'm talking about external parameters.
But motors and functionality, yes, meat grinder and meat grinder are different.

Quote: Editor13
At the same time, I read about Axion on Ya / M that someone's knife does not reach the grate

I get it all
Quote: shade
Let's say we came up from the old manual Sovdepovskoy meat-rolling

To Axion, too, Soviet hand-made lattices came up. A knife too, but a good one.

And the cookie cutter came up.
Editor13
Eco You are straight entertainers and they twist the meat and make cookies in a meat grinder. Ehhhhh.
ANGELINA BLACKmore
Quote: Editor13
entertainers and meat are twisting and making cookies in a meat grinder
On HP, it does not work out differently ..... Everything is contagious here .... Even there is no time to live.
shade
miter to you bakers!

I mean that some manufacturers make a special shaft, then a triangular, then an asterisk, so that only their parts fit

A-liona
thank you all for your answers)
Editor13
Admin, Tatiana, I watched the video, but Zelmer is certainly quieter in noise than Moulinex and it seems Brown. You still have to see him live, and find the minimum equipment.




Good day, I found such a miracle - Zelmer ZMM1588SRU. What do you say, adherents of the brand? Price tag up to 5 sput.
Kestrel
Girls (and boys), "since such a booze has gone," I will ask about Zelmer. I found such a model Zelmer ZMM 1008SRU for a very good price, aka Zelmer 887.8. Remembering Romin's review, I keep in mind for the standardthat the brand is good, BUT .... climbed to re-read it - oops - for Admin then - it will be more powerful.
I would be grateful to everyone who shares their opinion, since I "staked out" it, just in case, made an order. Just what interests you - compact and, as I was looking for, without additional attachments (not needed), and the price - 2500 and a full-fledged warranty promise 48 months (goods with damaged packaging, which is why it is so cheap). But here's the power - 1500 versus 1900 for the meat grinder in Tatiana's review. The reviews on the network seem to be good, I understand that this model is old, they are selling off the remnants and now the lineup is already different. But it makes no difference to me. Who thinks to buy back (if money is given)?
Here is:

Now I compared the characteristics on the official website - it seems that everything is not so sad (I scratch my turnips)
"Mine" has a rated power of 250, and Tatianina's has 260, that is, it doesn't seem to lag behind that much, although the maximum operating power of 550 versus 650 is very critical or not? Well, and for blocking the shaft there is absolutely "byada" - 1500 \ 1900 for Tatiana. I’m thinking - I don’t let the cutlet cutlet, I take the “more modest” cutlet meat, so I think if she can handle it, with such power

Choosing an electric meat grinderChoosing an electric meat grinder

Rada-dms
And now I'm waiting for "mine" from St. Petersburg, I haven't found any more offers. IN Shop Grinder Pro tried to get through, asked politely, how is my order? As soon as they found out that it was me, the manager hung up the phone, then they put the phone on hold for 12-15 minutes and dropped it. A friend called and immediately answered the phone. Why deceive people and promise to bring it, if they do not have it, apparently, it is not clear! That is, it turns out for the sake of "enticement" to expose at an attractive price, and then impose other models!
Anchic
Kestrel, Anna, the power when the engine is blocked is how much the meat grinder will consume for a short time (1-2 s), when the protection relay will work and the meat grinder will stand up.Theoretically, it may depend on how you can jam the meat grinder. But do you need to grind bones on it ??? Or will you still grind meat? Maximum operating power - I think that 100W is not critical here either. My Ratep meat grinder has a specified power of 140W. And she grinds normally absolutely, the veins too, she doesn't even raise her voice. I ground the oatmeal on dry ground for nuggets - I started howling, but survived. So if the equipment suits you and the price is attractive, then take it and do not hesitate.
louisa
and after Tanya's review I chose Zelmer, for which many thanks to her: rose: I do not regret at all, however, I did not find such a model as Tatyana's, I took another one, just the action was in Eldorado, it copes with its task much better than the one that ordered for a long time live (worked nothing at all) Panasonic meat grinder
Mandraik Ludmila
I began to read the topic due to the fact that my Bosch bought 1.5 years ago could not properly grind the garlic arrows, my husband sharpened both the knife and the grate, the result is the same, in the end he grinded on a manual, old, Soviet, for almost an hour and a half coped, and not straining too much. Now I'm trying to figure out whether Bosch is so stupid or electric all the greens are badly taken, because for tea, "hard" leaves are the same for the tame husband, but there is generally tin, my hand immediately falls off, the electric ones, according to reviews, burn quickly ..
ANGELINA BLACKmore
Quote: Mandraik Lyudmila
or electric all bad greens take

I, recently, also twisted garlic arrows. On his Zelmer. The result is excellent. It flew by without tension.
Mandraik Ludmila
Natasha, thank you, it means it's all the same in the meat grinder, I already began to think about buying another meat grinder, that's why I came here ... It's a shame, the meat grinder is almost new and, frankly, not cheap, though not the most expensive ... Okay, I'm already began to study Axions and Zelmers
ANGELINA BLACKmore
Ludmila, I, at first, wanted to buy Aksin (due to the fact that knives from Soviet meat grinders are suitable). But, after reading the Admin review about Zelmer, I appreciated it without question (But the daughter did her own thing, bought Moulinex, which quickly died and I still got Zelmer)
The husband walks and admires him. It's so small, compact. The noise is MUCH quieter than Mulinex.
Mandraik Ludmila
Natasha, I want with a grater, otherwise when the workpieces begin, you have to rub a lot. And always with a reverse
ANGELINA BLACKmore
Quote: Mandraik Lyudmila

Natasha, I want with a grater, otherwise when the workpieces begin, you have to rub a lot. And always with a reverse
My MR has graters, a vegetable cutter, a juicer, a kebbe attachment, a sausage attachment, 3 grates.
Kestrel
ANGELINA BLACKmore, what is your Zelmer model?
ANGELINA BLACKmore
Quote: Kestrel

ANGELINA BLACKmore, what is your Zelmer model?
987 93 like that.
Mandraik Ludmila
Natasha, and with a reverse?
ANGELINA BLACKmore
People, with reverse.
Admin

Girls, take your time with the purchase. First, ask the question, why do you need it, what are you going to do on it?
The range of Zelmer models is large, from simple to those with a full set of nozzles, up to 6 pieces! And the price depends on it.

My searches were purposeful, I was looking for a press attachment for tomatoes. And so she came across Zelmer. And there were quite sane attachments for flour-cereals, citrus fruits, and so on ... To be honest, I don't use vegetable cutters every day, although they are very convenient to work and wash. But with them it is convenient in the harvesting season.
Yes, and the device works like a beast, just give it
ANGELINA BLACKmore
Quote: Admin
take your time with the purchase. First, ask yourself why you need it
Tan, I agree with you.
Mandraik Ludmila
Girls, I just grinded minced meat from turkey breast on my bosha, my husband seemed to be sharpening both a grate and a knife, only this morning, but a meat grinder turkey breast I barely chopped, I had to press hard on the crush. I don't understand anything, my husband is generally rukasty, and from the word very much! True, it sharpens the details of the meat grinder for the first time, as it used to be fine.Manual, there I specially bought such sharp-toothed knives that they don't even need to be sharpened. Before Bosch, there was Mulinex without a reverse, due to the lack of a reverse, I gave it to my mother-in-law, so I lived with her for 4 years, until my friend soaked the metal parts in Bose +, well, after that it broke, crumbled, everything that could and I bought new parts gave it to her husband's mother. And this Bosch, as it is from the very beginning, does not really chop ... But on the garlic arrows, he somehow completely disappointed me ..
Kestrel
I have specific requirements - only a meat grinder, without additional. nozzles. To work well as a meat grinder (although, perhaps, not only for meat, girls and all sorts of other varieties grind, but it is "meat grinder"). Unrequitedly in love with CASO FW 2000, but the obstacle to our love - as always - finances. Here I am still in a permanent search for something more or less adequate for a more humane price.
Mandraik Ludmila
The husband seems to have coped with the sharpening, at least a piece of pork with a skin went off with a bang, I’ll try to buy an additional, more toothy knife first ... But in general, it’s still to change, he growls painfully and it is clear that there is not enough power, although 1600W is written, and below 500W, that is, it takes 500 from the outlet, and the gears are increased to 1600Ie on the shaft, but I strongly doubt these figures ... I have to chop meat and grass on it, and I have to make blanks ... But the grain mill I have a separate, mechanical, purely German, my husband bought, now I admire, an abaldenly beautiful piece
Admin
Quote: Kestrel
(although, perhaps, not only for meat, girls and all kinds of other varieties grind,

Look again carefully at what Zelmer can do with each nozzle, and decide "and it is nada for me, and what exactly is nada?" So that it would not be excruciatingly painful after the purchase, that I did not buy something else there

Here I showed all the attachments and their capabilities from meat to vegetables and fruits OVERVIEW OF THE ELECTRIC MEAT MINCER ZELMER 987.80
Electric meat grinder Zelmer 987.80 (discussion and reviews) and follow the link to the review

Then you will look for your model of a meat grinder, with the required number of attachments, or just without them

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