Pizza makers: Princess 115000-01, Tristar, GF, Travola, Clatroniс, etc. (2)

I am completely satisfied with Tristar's work. I didn’t take measurements and I won’t, because I don’t know how, and again I’m lazy. What to measure if you like it ?!
I won't write anything about other stoves either, I don't remember. They are available, but I rarely use them now.
It is a pity that Tristar was so dishonored!

[Ritulya]

Tristar is so disgraced!

Ritulya

at his Tristar - the first turn on - after 4 minutes 10 seconds, the next turn on after 2 minutes 30 seconds.

Super!!! But again, such comparisons are unambiguously incorrect, because different working conditions cannot be compared. It is very cool in my kitchen, the tension is low, the stove was empty, etc. However, if the pauses were long, you would have noticed. It was as if someone wrote that they could hear how the food stopped squirting (there were cutlets there, or something ...). And I have the same garbage on the last potato - it was quietly quieting down.

It’s a pity that Trista made such a disgrace!

Yes laaadno ...)) Chinese quality, what to take from it ... No stability. Well at least someone got lucky.
I still need to protest the second Princess-1, otherwise it’s worth somewhere in the closet "for spare parts." What a joke if two identical Princesses in equal conditions give different results!

products stopped squirting

Uzhs, it never happened, mmm.

[Bijou]

Bijou, Lenus, my frying subsides, if I reduce the heat with a thermostat. Moreover, I noticed that after a few minutes of heating, the temperature change can be monitored by characteristic clicks. I don't know what it is, but it clicks and the temperature clearly changes.
But in Tortillana, I have such that as soon as the timer approaches its logical conclusion, the heat becomes less and less. So it will come to naught if you do not add time.
This is my Tortillan.

What a joke if two identical Princesses in equal conditions give different results!

And I did it - two identical P2 gave different results: one had 4 on-off cycles lasting 15 minutes, the other 20 minutes

And I think that it is incorrect to measure only the on and off times. It is unclear how each of the stoves keeps the temperature. Maybe Tristar is better. Now, if only with temperature measurements. That is another matter.

It is unclear how each of the stoves keeps the temperature.

I have that stove that turned on and off more often heated up to 5 degrees. less, but also cooled down by 10 * less

I have that stove that turned on and off more often heated up to 5 degrees. less, but also cooled down by 10 * less

Oh how. That is, the temperature was kept smoother. Q.E.D.
But in principle, this is natural. The stove (and any heater) goes into overheating, the higher the longer the heating element works. For a longer time of operation, it becomes hotter, then, after the command to stop, the inertia of heating throws the temperature over the expected one. IMHO, of course.)

And I think that it is incorrect to measure only the on and off times. It is unclear how each of the stoves keeps the temperature. Maybe Tristar is better.

In the sense of? The heater does not work, and the temperature is taken from somewhere to maintain?

one had 4 on-off cycles lasting 15 minutes, the other 20 minutes

Clear. But there is a difference between 4 and 5 minutes. And in my case, between 2 and 5. After all, the difference is more than twice, not one-fifth.))

In a thermos, the heater does not work either, and the temperature to maintain is taken from somewhere. The stoves are different.

In the first stove, the temperature dropped somewhere from 200 * to 180 *, and in the second to 170 *

[caprice23]

caprice23,



I didn't measure anything, but it keeps the temperature well (closed)

The stoves are different.

Well, yes, in my Tristar, the temperature did not want to come from anywhere - the potatoes were tormented for more than half an hour, more often they were silent than squalling, and in the end it turned out to be semi-cooked. ((I touched that wheel fifteen times in the hope that it was I who moved it from the maximum.
So personally, I had a bummer with miracles ...

Well, okay, I'll find a use as a second stove, of course. Bo My princess fucks like a catechuch. But I would be the only one - I would be very upset. Probably.)

[Bijou]

Bijou, I really hope that the GF will be spilling with me, like a publicized one, otherwise I already have a half-dead stove

[Sibelis]

Sibelis, let's hope together!
Well I've read here how the people in the Princess will fry a chicken, then cutlets .. And I have one dish at the exit - coals.
In short, be afraid of your desires. I will hope that Tristar will fry me a chicken with cutlets, or something ... Although ... after that faded potato I will think for a long time before I risk it.)) I made cutlets in a frying pan the day before yesterday.

as the people in the Princess will fry a chicken, then cutlets ..

Yeah-yeah ... Here's my chicken - today she made thighs fillet according to the Galochka recipe - I can't direct links
I think it's just a huge advantage over the oven! 15 minutes from cold - and off 10! And the oven would only heat up for 15 minutes, and as Galochka says - it would take 30-35 minutes to cook!

I am not able to direct links

Olga, there is nothing complicated there - click the button at the top left of the recipe page -the code for copying the link into the message will appear. And by clicking on the icons on the right - or links from a photo - only there you don't need to copy the code, it will be automatically in the browser after clicking.

There really is an advantage in cooking speed. BUT food cooked in an oven or similar oven is different in results. At the exit, stewed-baked dishes are obtained, tasty, but not as baked as in the oven. Such a stove cannot be an alternative to the oven in any way. I have a GF on my farm, a good oven, a ferrari, and even for some reason an air fryer. Devices are related in their purpose, each is sharpened for its own.
In the GF I baked pizzas, flat cakes, chicken, fish, everything is delicious, I like everything, but I don't know yet a single dish that would be tastier than the traditional way of cooking.

but I don't know yet a single dish that would be tastier than the traditional way of cooking

Come on??

[Ne_lipa]

I don't know yet a single dish that would be tastier than the traditional way of cooking

Ne_lipa, Victoria, it means that somehow they did not cook like that ... IMHO. In 15 minutes, I have chicken, meat and fish - no worse than in the oven, I assure you!

there is nothing complicated

Julia, thank you, now I understand!

[excellent]

The taste and color ...
We are all known to be different! Families eat differently, different food priorities!
If the oven excellent, then I agree that the Princess cannot compete with her in kuro ~ meat and fish dishes. IMHO.
Its priority is only in speed and energy saving due to speed (if the oven is electric) ...
But I have a gas ...
And in the heat ... to heat the gas ...
Therefore, in the summer I often use the Princess, in the winter I rarely ... Maybe once a week ...
Probably I had few eaters.

My oven is excellent!
But I like it better in PP, as in MV / SLE
And tastier and faster!

And less cleaning)

Haha, I don't have an oven at all!
There is a stove and a frying pan, but I fry and reheat food in a PP - it's more convenient that way. Does not splash grease around.

We are all known to be different! Families eat differently, different food priorities!

And in cooking methods too!)
I have a Princess only for Pizza, Ossetian pies, khachapuria. Rarely, rarely something else.
Everyone has the right to cook what he likes in it! )))
We love cutlets in a frying pan, cheese cakes too, pancakes too ~ so what's wrong with that?
I always enjoy learning the Princess baking recipes posted here. Thanks everyone!

Olya, no worse, does not mean better ... I don’t think I cooked that way, because there is no specific way for PP. Just rave reviews sometimes make you believe that such a pizza maker can replace a good oven. And this is simply absolutely not true.
I use GF precisely for the speed of cooking and to save energy. Again, I like the taste of dishes from this device, but it is impossible to say that dishes from a pizza oven and oven have an equal sign.

so what's wrong with that?

Absolutely nothing, because:

we are all different!

Girls, I just bought this device thanks to this forum, I do not regret it, I just really love traditional cooking methods
And of course, thanks to your experience and discussions, I will learn something new and interesting.
By the way, I immediately became friends with GF, this is such a calm friendship, without any sighing from both sides.

[Ne_lipa]

Ne_lipa, for example, I just like to master new gadgets, the process itself. If we put quality in the foreground, then no one canceled the good old classics. Bread in a stone oven turns out better than in a bread maker, the cake dough is kneaded better by hand than with a combine.

[Ne_lipa]

Ne_lipa, Vika, like Irina, it's just more convenient for me! Although the oven is excellent - but while you take the pans out of it, then wash the baking sheet, wash the baking dish, and wait a hundred years for it to heat up and bake, and spent the Princess with a sponge - and you're done! - but that's all IMHO! I wrote ...

[Rita]

such a pizza maker can replace a good oven. And this is simply absolutely not true.

See Rita, so after all, too, you can not say Categorically and for everyone.

I don't remember the last time I turned on the oven ...
But no, I remember, I baked a delicious pie with apples for NG in December ... 16 g)

You see, Rita, you can't say that either. Categorically and for everyone.

.... I did not get that...
Did I say that?
"For everyone?")))))

I did not get that..

Well, this is, as an example)))
Not you, you wrote, of course.

cake dough is kneaded by hand better than with a combine.

But this is very doubtful!)))

[mamusi]

Here such passions are boiling all the time that it takes your breath away! And it would seem a peaceful forum on cooking))



mamusi, stop good!

I said that. In the oven, food is cooked with streams of hot air, in the PP these streams are not.

I already have such hands that they only knead the dough ... Especially cake ...
Eh, girls, while young and healthy, everything is possible!)))
I wish you all good health and new devices! Good ones and more!

Here such passions boil all the time

What passions are there? You haven't seen it yet, how some here, it happens, will answer ... that the hair is on end ... And here everyone simply shares their impressions, in a completely friendly form

[anavi]

anavi, as I did not see, I saw! That's why I speak.

I know who said what)))
This meant that it was necessary to speak, first of all, only for oneself. You don't need to decide for others)
As above, all the others wrote only about their opinion.

Girls of passion, too, can and should be taken under control!))) Let them not "boil" strongly. We must take care of each other ...
There are so many problems, God forbid!

This is for the sake of dispute and passion ... Honestly, I was bribed by the reviews that in PP it is tastier and faster.
I expressed my thoughts on this matter.

[Victoria]

Victoria, oh well, God bless him, let's forget already. We are peaceful people!
And everyone spoke up and went to cook "as they like."
Better share the recipes further and let's delicious pies, girls and more !!!! Holiday is coming soon!

and went to cook "whoever likes it"

That is, sleep

By the way, I immediately became friends with GF, this is such a calm friendship, without any sighing from both sides.

And I have a sigh for the Princess! When I fry zucchini in the summer.
Otherwise I agree. Even a profile dish, pizza, comes out better in a well-heated oven.I'm not talking about the stone ...

I am already silent about the stone ...

I read, I read .. I could not resist, a club-handed one, like me, and the stone will not help, (I immediately got it from the DS) I have pastries like pizza-pies only in Tortilka or in the GF (oven ... What device can I put a whole stuffed inside into?

I baked pizzas, flatbreads, chicken, fish, everything is delicious, I like everything, but I don’t know yet a single dish that would be tastier than the traditional way of cooking.

Here, I also agree completely. For me personally, a pizza maker is a compromise.

Just rave reviews sometimes make you believe that such a pizza maker can replace a good oven. And this is simply absolutely not true.
I use GF precisely for the speed of cooking and to save energy. Again, I like the taste of dishes from this device, but it is impossible to say that dishes from a pizza maker and oven have an equal sign.

So I believed it. Then the wings broke off for me later.

And I insist: sit for a couple of years without an oven, like me - the opportunity to bake simple cookies will seem like heaven to you

Better share the recipes further and let's delicious pies, girls and more !!!! Holiday is coming soon!

And that's right, otherwise we have more disputes than recipes

And I insist: sit for a couple of years without an oven, like me - the opportunity to bake simple cookies will seem like heaven to you

About that and speech. This is a great device when there is no oven, when it is hot, when you need it quickly. This is a compromise.

[caprice23]

caprice23, and also a toy
You won't have much fun with the oven, so you have to buy gadgets