Kenwood Kitchen Machines

Girls, and maybe someone will describe the algorithm for cooking Italian meringue in KM 096

Add proteins, sugar and water (proportions are laid out on the previous page). Temperature 118 *. 6 speed, high speed high temperature mode (HSHT). Duration 10 minutes. Turn off heat and beat for another 10 minutes at speed 6.

Today I wanted to make an Italian meringue according to this recipe. Nothing worked FOR ME! I put 80g of protein, 160g of sugar, 40g of water in a bowl (I did everything 3 times less to spoil less food), set it to 118-120 degrees, put in flexi, speed 6 and began to beat. Then, when the temperature was being set, she pressed the VSVT and held it until the speed was set, BUT WHEN I RELEASED IT, THE MACHINE STOPPED! I made several attempts, everything repeated. Why? (I used to do a Swiss meringue - everything worked out, when the HVHT button was released, the machine continued to work at high speed at a temperature of 72 degrees)
In general, I held this button without releasing it for 6 minutes, the flexi gum began to creak on the proteins that had dried in the walls, I turned off the heating, continuing to beat, but the proteins completely dried out and I stopped the experiment.
I don’t feel sorry for the cream that didn’t turn out (I’ll make a Swiss one - it works), maybe such a small amount of ingredients turned out to be not enough for the machine, I am worried about the question: Why did the car stop when I released the VSHT button? So it shouldn't be like that? And, yes, I forgot to write KM 096.

[ElenaM]

ElenaM, why did you use the flexi attachment? for meringue either a whisk or a K nozzle are used.

[ElenaM]

ElenaM, why flexi, and not a corolla or k-shaped?
The flexi has a hole in the middle, there are no jumpers like in the old flexi form, for whipping, it seems to me, it does not fit.

Flexi always squeaks (rubber on metal) when the temperature changes, whatever you do in the car. This is a feature, not a bug.

But why the car stopped is really a question.
I've never had this.

PS The abbreviation ВСВТ, which came from the new induction, is not pleasing to the eye.

Flexy used it, because when preparing the Swiss meringue K-coy, a small layer of protein was baked at the bottom, so I wanted to avoid this with flexi, hoping that it would "scrape off" the protein completely and prevent baking.

abbreviation ВСВТ is not pleasing to the eye

How do you call this "P" button?
Eh, I'll have to try again, with a large amount of food (it will be a pity to throw it away), with a K-whisk, and let's see what kind of trick this "button to hold the speed at high speed mode" throws me, but not today.

let's see what kind of trick this "speed hold button in high speed mode" throws me

Just try to pour water into the bowl, any nozzle, the temperature is higher than 60 * and check if the HVHT mode works. Do not forget the lid, so as not to burn yourself, it will spit. The acronym is funny, but short and easy to understand.
At least you will know what's the matter. There is a fault in the Machine or in the quantity of ingredients.

when preparing Swiss meringue K-koy, a small layer of protein was baked at the bottom

Try to adjust the K-eshka. Maybe a little high.

How do you call this "P" button then?

Before the advent of the new induction, they simply said - the P button. Or the Pulse button. Or even just a button. But these are my personal impressions of the acronym.


I watched a video about risotto.
I try to understand everything about programs.

True, I don't really like the author - I didn't show the final dish, he leans on the car, depriving his head of movement.



The question remains - there are time intervals (for wine 1 minute and others), regardless of the number of products, for example, risotto for two or five?

There are many videos on YouTube with previous induction. Under the spoiler, there are two short ones - in Russian and not in Russian, but understandable. The only difference that I see on the risotto is not to set / change the temperature / time and stirring speed with your hands (with stops). But also prepare the food, and most importantly - just stand nearby, wait for the signal to add more and press the "enter".

In the new machine, I really like the dual use of attachments - for mixing + whisk / keshka / flexi. I don't know how I would apply it, but I like the opportunity.

But I still would not entrust cooking to programs. About 4-5 years ago, I was glad of all kinds of automatic processes in gadgets (multicooker, etc.), but now I want to control the cooking process more.

the temperature is above 60 * and check if the VSHT mode is working

Before that I did a 72 * Swiss meringue, the button worked as it should.

Maybe a little high.

The nozzle is adjusted when I slightly press the "head" of the machine from above - it scrapes along the bottom.

Hello everybody. Recently I became the proud owner of Keshenka with induction, I am mastering it slowly. So I made risotto in two ways on an automatic program and according to my own understanding, so the option that I did not like on the machine at all, maybe it is for a certain amount of products and a certain recipe is calculated, I do not have a recipe book in Russian only in English, but I there is absolutely oak in it)) in general, the onions were not fried normally, the taste of some kind turned out to be disjointed, and when I regulated it myself, it turned out so deliciously we ate too much, the recipe here on the forum took the same products the same, and the result different. When I put on the machine, he somehow quickly demanded all the ingredients, I would still steam the wine to my taste, and he was already wailing - the next one))

But I still would not entrust cooking to programs. About 4-5 years ago, I was glad of all kinds of automatic processes in gadgets (multicooker, etc.), but now I want to control the cooking process more.

I don't trust these automatic modes either.

The question remains - there are time intervals (for wine 1 minute and others), regardless of the number of products, for example, risotto for two or five?

I will try to answer. The time intervals do not depend on the quantity of products. Only the heating time changes. When the temperature is reached, the operations of the stage are activated, which manifests itself in the form of a countdown. The stirring speed asks to set manually (the message on the display). But that's because I looked up when adding products.
The temperature and stirring mode (with or without stops) is set independently.
Yes, you have to stand nearby, wait for the corresponding inscription (I had no signal) and press the button.

And today I tried to cook a béchamel with a stirrer, as in the instructions. Complete nonsense. Flour is collected in a slide on this mixer and does not combine with oil. She spat and put on flexi.
Has specially photographed. I'll try to insert a photo, somehow it's problematic for me from a tablet




In the first photo there is one "sweeper", in the second it is also flexi. It also turned out to be nonsense. The pile of flour did not want to detach, break, had to be removed and cleaned.

I don't trust these automatic modes either.

It's not that I don't trust. But the more I cook, the more I understand the processes, and the more I want to control them and influence the result.

Roughly speaking, I began to see the difference between, a primitive example, fry for 2 minutes or 4 minutes, or that it takes more than one minute to boil wine, but depends on the amount of wine and how the rice was fried before and in what oil, or that at different times of the year you need a different amount of flour in the same recipe due to the humidity / dryness of the air.

For me, gadgets are becoming less and less devices - I laid it and forgot it. And more and more just assistants - beat, mix, stir, chop, cut this way and that, grind, chop, roll, etc.

I really need heating, stirring, and so on at induction!
But the programs ... I read the instructions, watched the video, reviews, so far I haven't found a single one to entrust to the automation. But not all programs have reviews.

It's not that I don't trust. But the more I cook, the more I understand the processes, and the more I want to control them and influence the result.

I totally agree with Miranda. I didn’t even bake rye baked in HP on an automatic program.

set 118-120 degrees

Why not on the bus. program ??

I try to understand everything about programs.

I like the programs! I cooked risotto with vegetables .. the first time it turned out not in ++, but it was my own fault .. I took the wrong rice, but the second time it turned out great! The broth, however, added more to the eye than it says in the book. I have not tried only sauces and popcorn. I even made pure rye dough (like I wrote) I also like to "conjure" over the dish myself .. to experiment something, but the programs do not want to be idle.

She even made pure rye dough (she seemed to write)

By program? Did I miss

I just made a pure rye dough on the program (I made rye dough from the forum): girl-yes: It turned out to be an excellent rye dough!

[zvezda]

zvezda, well!
It's good when everything is liked and used

[LydiaVera]

Before the advent of the new induction, they simply said - the P button. Or the Pulse button.

I have not seen the previous induction and I do not know what the P button is for. The new one has a P mode - pulse. Marked with the letter P on the gearshift knob. And to increase the speed when heating, the temperature sensor button is used. So it is unclear how short and proper to call this mode

I want to repeat the information already sounded in the topic. I don’t remember who she was from, but many thanks to the author. I put the car on a plastic napkin (I don't know what to call it) and now I move, turn without effort. I pull the bowl handles.
LydiaVera, try it. Then you can hug KM from behind, removing the cup

A question of this kind.
Looked at the Kenwood website for new models. They are cheaper in price than the same but from Germany
Question to the owners. What are your impressions of them?
And then I'm thinking of buying
And are there any promotional codes? And then they clarified that you can also get a 10% discount with one of the purchase options
Now in thought.
65,000 decent money, but still, if there is a discount, and the car is not a smartphone
Do you think it's worth taking?
well, plus. Is it easy to buy bowls for a new model? Otherwise, I'm not going to wash it with my hands, but one bowl may not be enough in this case

Well, plus confused the answer on the hotline, they said that the gears were metal, while according to model 096 they said that the gears were fluoroplastic
Does anyone know what kind of gear material is in model KCC9060S?

[animegravitation]

animegravitation,

What are your impressions of them?

Just read the last 20-30 pages and that's the impression.
There is also about promotional codes.

With rice - an idea!
I'll go to sleep, I won't go to the service ...
Thank you!

Isn't it possible to wash it in the PMM, which is written in the instructions for the nozzle?

Yes .... probably just me. Nobody else had it (here) and I washed the meat grinder .. oh, and I had it pretty!
And about rice - the pure truth! Nice method. Only I did not understand what exactly they washed ??

Yes, it's generally tin. Why doesn't kenwood make a stainless steel meat grinder?
And it turns out to be washed by hand is very inconvenient, and aluminum dissolves in PMM

Just read the last 20-30 pages, that's the impression.
There is also about promotional codes.

OK. I read it. Why is the price so tasty? Models that are new and in Europe cost 1100 Euro
And ours is even cheaper, and even the operator said that they can give a discount of 10% when calculating cash
Where does such a holiday of generosity come from?

Another question.
The new THERMORESIST ™ GLASS BLENDER is it tempered glass?
Withstands temperature extremes - ice cold - hot? And then my blender died from the KM289 kitchen machine
I hope that in an expensive series, there will be no fear that the blender will crack.

[animegravitation]

The new THERMORESIST ™ GLASS BLENDER is it tempered glass?
Withstands temperature extremes - ice cold - hot?

animegravitation, the official websites say that the heat resistant glass blender is perfect for mixing and grinding hot or cold ingredients without the risk of cracking from sudden temperature changes. After the hot ice, I, of course, did not grind it in it, but it reacts normally to puree soups with the heat of the heat, after which it goes immediately to the PPM for preliminary rinsing so that nothing sticks to it.

[night_furia]

night_furia Thanks for the answer.
Now one question remains.
What is more profitable
1) to approve the installment plan from Tinkoff and repay ahead of schedule
2) not to be approved and get a 10% discount?
For some reason, it seems to me that through the installment plan I will not throw off more than 10%, the kitchen machine is not a phone to which through the installment plan it was possible to knock out a 20% discount)

[animegravitation]

animegravitation, from 251 pages cost to NG at 9040

That's right, the loan is approved for 46,822.19 rubles, I just looked at the exact amount. This is the "loan body" (the store actually gives a discount for such machines, because the bank transfers so much), and with interest for 10 months the buyer will pay the bank exactly 52,000.

So just count, if 5,177 rubles are saved from 52 thousand, then with a larger amount there will be a little more, IMHO, if they immediately give a discount of 10%, then I would take it this way than bother with banks for some five hundred rubles.

Yes, and you can wash the nozzles in the PMM, except for the gearboxes for them, I still do not wash the knives in the PMM, fearing that they will become blunt.

not to be approved and get a 10% discount?
For some reason, it seems to me that through the installment plan I will not throw off more than 10%, the kitchen machine is not a phone to which through the installment plan it was possible to knock out a 20% discount)

Please tell me where did you get the information about the discount if they don't give you an installment plan?
What can I do to prevent installments?%)) I was already ready to buy, I just wanted to go to the master class, but then the prices were raised

Please tell me where did you get the information about the discount if they don't give you an installment plan?

From the manager.
I told him bluntly that I was taking an installment plan purely because of a discount for early repayment. Tea is not the first to make such a scheme
He said that if the bank refuses, then they can make a discount of 10% but when paying in cash
But as I understand it, they do not advertise this discount and offer individually, if asked)

Then I'll sleep with thoughts about the new car and tomorrow I think I'll fill in the info for an installment plan, and then how the card will fall
I will also read the reviews here

[animegravitation]

animegravitation, good luck
Join the ranks of kitchen owners. Kenwood machines

My husband and I were denied an installment plan at Tinkoff, just because of the open credit cards.
Although the husband has an open bank account as an individual entrepreneur with regular receipts.

I was not offered a discount, but I ended up with a different option, with a 10% discount. I paid by card upon receipt, delivery to a distant Moscow region.

Although the husband has an open bank account as an individual entrepreneur with regular receipts.

Maybe that's why they refused
Banks now value pensioners more than individual entrepreneurs; they generally react to individual entrepreneurs nervously. So it is better to keep silent like a fish when applying for loans about individual entrepreneurs
Practice from the banking forum

but it turned out to be a different option in the end, with a 10% discount.

Share your secret how this option happened?

[animegravitation]

animegravitation, unfortunately, this will not work the second time))) One thing is obvious - if not for this discount, I would not buy.
If your manager gives you a 10% discount when paying in cash, agree! This is a cool offer
And don't forget about the candy_iren promo code, a gift for it.

unfortunately, this won't work the second time)))

Well, duck won't ride

If your manager gives you a 10% discount when paying in cash, agree! This is a cool offer

I understand this, given the price of the car in Europe

And do not forget about the candy_iren promo code, a gift for it.

Thank you, now I won't forget

Put the car on a plastic napkin

is it the black one that comes with the car? I will definitely try, thanks! Yesterday, the bowl of liquid biscuit dough got jammed again, but my husband was not at home. I already wanted to scoop up a ladle, remembered the advice about "hugs", barely turned it around and let's hug! But she pulled it out.

is it the black one that comes with the car?

Well, what kind of plastic is it?
A silicone mat is included with the machine for placing a hot bowl on it. Exactly the size of the bowl.

And a napkin is like a flexible cutting board or on a table - the girls are separately in an ordinary household. store bought and adapted.

a napkin is like a flexible cutting board or on a table

then we must go to the household. mag., to look for.

And today I tried to cook a béchamel with a stirrer, as in the instructions. Complete nonsense. Flour is collected in a slide on this mixer and does not combine with oil. She spat and put on flexi.

By the way, I had the same thing with a mixer, but with flexi, it turned out okay, I also tried to mix it in the slow cooker mode, everything remains on this mixer, I was tortured to stand over it, and I also liked flexi stirring risotto more, I’ll also try it on jam and tomato sauce , maybe it will show itself well here. Maybe, of course, it is hefty good together with a whisk, but I hardly make such creams. Mostly for dough and sauces, Kesha was purchased, and of course eclairs to make, though I just didn't get to them yet)) I thought the dough would be right in the bowl, but somehow not very much - the bottom is heated more than necessary, but the top is generally cold, I transfer it to the multicooker now for proofing. But for the rest, I began to bake bread all the time, it turns out better than in a bread maker, I can set everything up as needed and any flour can be used. And so I like him, everything is so heavy and solid, everything understands, in general, even money is not a pity.

then we must go to the household. mag., to look for.

In fixprice.

In fixprice

I bought a pretty Pts in Auchan, it looks like it is woven from straw. Thank God no flower bunnies of heartbreaking flowers

I bought something similar, so that the small table would not get dirty with plasticine, but my napkins were somehow fragile, everything was chipped. They could not stand such a machine.

I shift it to a slow cooker now for proofing.

you can not shift it, but put it in the oven under the light bulb directly in the oven, - it turns out just optimal for fermentation and proofing.

my napkins were kind of fragile, they all chipped. They could not stand such a machine.

There, nothing is required from such a substrate, except for a moderately smooth sliding surface, and the thinner it is, the more convenient. The machine will not withstand the napkin, but the table on which all this will stand.
Good luck!

Hello, dear forum users.
For about a year I have been reading the site from the bushes, a side effect was the need to purchase an assistant for myself.
You need a dough mixer (the ability to beat 1 protein, knead the yeast dough on bread / cake). There is no experience of using such a technique. I settled on Kenwood by the method of exceptions. Having "felt" in the store, I almost bought a sens (the one that is almost 40 and additional nozzles), but after reading the last 100 pages (eyes and mind in a bunch), I decided that I would stop at KVL4100S (they are now at a delicious discount).
However, there are a few questions left that I don't understand:
Do I understand correctly that all attachments suitable for the sense will fit this machine (I was confused by the information about the old-new "connectors". The old one is a car or from a new series.
In the future, I would like to add a dough roll for spaghetti.
Probably, other attachments are also very important, but from experience of use, a hand grater is more convenient for me, there is a lyaktric meat grinder, a blender is also available. But I don't want to knead the dough for bread with a hand mixer or manually ... (thanks to this site, the menu of my family has greatly expanded, especially in the confectionery part)
The opinion of experienced housewives is interesting, whether the choice was made correctly ...

This is an old car or from a new series.

This is a new line.
The new one differs from the old one - it has a new low-speed socket, and the absence of a medium-speed one. Everything else for cars is the same in terms of attachments, of course, taking into account that there are cars with 4.6L bowls. and with bowls 6.7 liters.

Less and less of the old line is on sale.

Do I understand correctly that all attachments suitable for the sense will fit this machine

Not everything, depends not only on the nest, but also on the size of the bowl (there are senses with bowls of 4.6 l. And with 6.7 l.)

Absolutely all attachments for high speed socket (blender, etc.). This nest has not changed for many decades. Does not depend on the size and class of the car.

On low speed socket - all nozzles with a new connector (with the old one they will fit through an adapter). These are meat grinders, dough sheeters, etc.

And on planetary socket any attachments for machines with a bowl of 6.7 liters. (hooks, whisks, ice maker, etc.)

By the way, I have the same thing with a stirrer, but with flexi, it turned out normally

In the recipe book for KM with induction (the one on the Internet), bechamel is prepared with flexi. A variant with a stirring attachment appeared in the instructions for Gourmet.
I used a mixing attachment paired with a snap on the edge of the bowl when preparing the marinade for fish. Liked. And together with the whisk, K and Flexi did not understand yet. I just forget that you can wear it too. I'll have to try.

[VRad]

VRad, I got the theoretical feeling that liquid and viscous are better than flexi, as recommended in the previous induction. These are sauces, creams, choux pastry and other homogeneous.

But this mixer will be good when there are pieces of some kind - vegetables, meat, fish. Or even jam. So that the pieces do not break, do not break, do not rub on the edge of the bowl from flexi.

After all, this mixer replaced the old mixer, and the old mixer was exactly what for mixing dishes with pieces. For risotto, it was flexi.

Flexi jam is great! I set the interval (3) and even made jam from plums.
I have such a napkin under the car, I have been using it for a long time .. they are cheap and there are no problems to wash and turn the car. As a last resort, it's not a pity to change

I thought the dough would be right in the bowl

And I really like: girl-yes: Although I thought that I would only do it in HP (I have been mixing it for a long time), but in the car on the bus. programs liked that now only here!

[zvezda]

zvezda, and from what jam?
I crushed the berries a little in berry flexi (raspberry, I like with whole berries). And Apricot, probably, would hardly have crumpled.

I also like to prove any dough right in the induction bowl.

Good afternoon everyone. So I was thinking about buying a 9060, but the consultant on the site said that the gears in it are plastic, as well as in 096. What sadness, does anyone have reliable info about this? Somehow I don’t trust the plastic, after the blender on my Boche erased the plastic gear (the motor is powerful, and the gear is jammed and erased the teeth) .... There is also a powerful motor right there, right?

[balabolka]

balabolka, so this is the advantage, plastic gears are in an easily accessible place, repairs are inexpensive, would it be better if the motor itself wedges because of the nozzle?
This means the gears close to the attachment point of the attachment, inside the motor everything is done as it should be, here were photos of disassembly.Well, in general, I have not met any complaints about jammed attachments.
By the way, on Kitchenade, the teeth of the metal gear have worn out because of the meat grinder. The repair is out of warranty, so it would be better if the plastic consumable would burn out.

Good afternoon everyone. So I was thinking about buying a 9060, but the consultant on the site said that the gears in it are plastic, as well as in 096. What sadness, does anyone have a reliable infa about this? Somehow I don’t trust the plastic, after the blender on my Boche erased the plastic gear (the motor is powerful, and the gear is jammed and erased the teeth) .... There is also a powerful motor, right?

Don't worry, the plastic is of high quality and the transmission from the motor through the belt.
Even if something happens in 5 years, you have a guarantee.
The machine is really reliable in terms of mechanics, there were cases, but they were repaired without problems.

[Miranda]

Miranda, You are writing very reasonably and authoritatively, therefore I will apply again.
It bothers me that the selected model (KVL4100s) is present on the Kenwood website (in the Chef Sense, Titanium Chef and Classic Chef Kitchen Machines section), but it is not in the same category for the Kevoodward. On the website kompyuteruniverse such a machine under the order Not a car, but some kind of flying Dutchman.
What is the reason for this situation? As a suspicious girl, I start to know who, it is not known what to suspect
Unfortunately, I cannot insert links.

[Redness]

RednessEach model has several names.
This is due to the packaging.

The most discussed model here is induction.
their 9040 and 9060, where the larger figure hints at an expanded configuration.

So it is with the car you have chosen - 4100 - the base model without additional. pieces.
There is model 4110 - base model + blender.
There is a model 4170 - basic model + blender and meat grinder.

The higher the number, the more complete the package, very simple logic.
The machine is the same, but different equipment, different box (the more attachments, the larger the box), different documentation, or rather, with attachments, you must also complete with instructions for the attachments.

In different countries they sell different things, because there are preferences statistics - to buy a bunch of attachments or a basic one with the machine right away and buy later, + the purchasing power is different. The preferences of the Germans differ from the preferences of the French, and those from the Italians, and those from the Czechs, etc. You can change languages ​​on Kenwoodward, and see where what is being sold for the sake of interest.

kenwood ru - official store, don't worry

I was thinking about buying a KCC9040S, the question is whether it kneads the dough well, long-kneaded bread, and in what quantity, the head does not jump? Here I sit and think. I choose between kenwood and ankasrkum

[Stavr]

Stavr, the whole topic is about it - how it kneads, etc.
Long kneading is possible as the machine can run for 72 hours without stopping.

And the head does not jump only for those who have no head.
Head movement is included in all planetary mixers, of any company, so as not to break.